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Paul Todd

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Understanding Chinese Women
« on: January 13, 2010, 03:02:39 am »
Understanding Chinese Women
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Most foreign men, prior to visiting China—particularly ones who have never dated an Asian girl before—hold a stereotype of Chinese women that portrays them as these soft, demure, reserved, shy, alluring, and near ethereal-like "creatures." What Western men encounter instead is often something much closer to the polar opposite. Although it is difficult, if not nearly impossible, to generalize about women from any specific country or culture, there is a great deal of strong anecdotal evidence, as well as data from a few empirical research studies, to suggest that many Chinese women do share certain culturally-influenced and induced characteristics.

This unit will attempt to describe and explain the various factors at play that influence the psychosocial development of women in China today and how these express themselves in relationships with men.

Psychology of Chinese Women
When a son is born,
Let him sleep on the bed,
Clothe him with fine clothes,
And give him jade to play...
When a daughter is born,
Let her sleep on the ground,
Wrap her in common wrappings,
And give broken tiles to play...
From the Book of Songs (1000 – 700 B.C.)

Confucian Tradition
Confucian philosophy and doctrine still very much influence values and beliefs in current day China. According to Confucius, relationships among family members must follow a hierarchy of status according to generation, age, and gender. The elder family members hold a higher position than do younger members and men are absolutely superior to women (Baker, 1979). The enormous social importance of the relative status of each family member by age, gender, and generation is reflected in the Chinese language itself: There are no less than 52 different words in Mandarin used to describe family kinship as opposed to just 17 in English (Huang and Jia, 2008).

Historically in China, only the number of a man's sons would be used to refer to the size of his family. When a woman married, she was expected to leave her family to live with her husband in his hometown, where the wife was subordinate to the whims of her mother-in-law. In many non-urban regions of China, not much has changed.

It wasn't until the year 1912, after the revolution of Sun Yat-Sen, that the binding of women’s feet was banned but that practice continued unofficially throughout the countryside well into the 50s, until Chairman Mao eradicated it for good. One scholar estimates that 40 to 50% of Chinese women during the 19th century had their feet bound and, for the upper classes, that figure was as high as 100% (Lim, 2007). Certainly, one can still find women alive in China today whose feet were bound some 60 to 90 years ago.

It is undoubtedly true that many Chinese women today enjoy new personal freedoms that were previously, up until very recently, denied to them. But in mainland China, what is a matter of law does not necessarily equate to what is experienced as a matter of practice in day-to-day life. A country's four-thousand-year-old culturally-ingrained regard for its women cannot be eradicated overnight no matter how many changes and improvements in law are promulgated by its government.

One of the many latent effects of China's 1979 single child policy has been the ongoing selective abortion of female fetuses and, at best, the withholding of medical treatment from sick female infants in the countryside. It has been estimated that there are 120 men for every 100 women in China (Fragoso, 2007) and that ratio is even steeper in the more rural regions of China. In the absence of a significant social welfare infrastructure, a son is a parents' best—if not only—assurance for security in their old age.

One woman kills herself every four minutes in China and, according to the World Health Organization, it is the only country in the world where more women commit suicide than men (Allen, 2006). Two of the main reasons cited for this finding are the profound discrepancy in social status as well as the relatively high rate of domestic violence that women in China endure. Surveys conducted by the United Nations Development Fund for Women found that 35% of all women in China had been the victims of domestic violence and that China ranks 81 out of 177 listed countries in the Gender Development Index (2007). As a matter of social policy, domestic violence is primarily regarded in China as a private family affair and the authorities are reluctant, at best, to intervene. Particularly for poor and uneducated women in China, suicide is perceived as the only way to extricate themselves from a miserable existence.

Do You Think I'm Pretty?
To further complicate and aggravate matters, women in China are evaluated on physical appearance and overall attractiveness against standards of beauty that are based primarily on Western (European) facial features.

According to numerous news media reports as well as an online survey conducted by www.sina.com involving more than 5,000 respondents, Chinese standards of female attractiveness emphasize height (165 to 170cm), an oval face, long straight hair, wafer-like thinness, a pale complexion, a complete absence of moles and freckles, large eyes with a double-fold or crease in the eyelids, and a pronounced bridge of the nose (China Daily, 2005; Chen, 2008). Unfortunately, most of these features are not characteristically Chinese at all. The average height of Chinese women is 160cm (about 5' 3") as compared to 170cm (about 5' 7") for Chinese men.

In their quest to attain these features, more than 20,000 Chinese women flocked to just one public hospital in Shanghai alone over the course of a single year for cosmetic surgical procedures that mostly included blepharoplasty (eyelid surgery), rhinoplasty (nose job), malar augmentation (cheek implants), and augmentation mammoplasty (ABC News, 2008). In the latest statistics released by the Chinese government in 2005, it was estimated that US$2.4 billion dollars is spent annually on cosmetic surgery in China and that number has risen each year subsequent to China's removal of the ban on plastic surgery in 2001 (Chen, 2008).

In what is an annual multi-billion dollar industry, more than half of all Asians (mostly women), aged 25 to 34 years, use skin whiteners on a regular basis (CNN.com, 2002). The Chinese preference for clear, white or pale skin is pervasive and ubiquitous and, as such, Chinese women avoid exposure to the sun whenever possible and most carry parasols with them during the summer months (you will even see women riding bicycles with a parasol in one hand). For this reason primarily, you will rarely observe Chinese arriving at pools or the seaside before 5:00 p.m., i.e., when the sun begins to set. In addition, eating disorders, particularly bulimia nervosa (binge eating followed by purging), are increasing in prevalence in China at an alarming rate, especially among girls from higher income families aged 12 to 22 (Chen and Jackson, 2007). A revealing human interest story featured on the All-China Women's Federation website about two American-born Chinese (ABC) girls studying in Beijing, highlights their difficulties adjusting to cultural differences in regard to both weight and skin tone. The article notes that whereas both girls wore small sizes in the United States, in China they are considered "fat" (and are readily told so by both friends and casual acquaintances) and can only fit into large sizes (Martin, 2007). Whereas their skin tone would be considered healthy-looking by American standards, here they are both regarded as being way too "dark."

What all of this amounts to is that the vast majority of Chinese women are extremely insecure about their physical appearance, far more so than their Western counterparts. There is incredible social pressure on Chinese women to be extremely thin and those who don't meet their culture's nearly unattainable standards of beauty are reminded of it constantly—by parents, friends, teachers, and commercial advertisements that conspicuously feature either Western models or those of Eurasian ancestry. Young women who are considered too dark will spend what little money they earn to purchase whitening creams and those who can afford to do so will seek "corrective" plastic surgery (which, by the way, includes hymenorraphy, i.e., surgical restoration of the hymen). In fact, plastic surgery has become so pervasive and common in China today, the country actually hosted its first beauty pageant in 2004 specifically for women who are now considered to be beautiful as a direct result of these various cosmetic procedures, i.e., a pageant for former cosmetic surgery patients only (ABC News, 2008).

There is no doubt that Western and Chinese men maintain very different criteria for determining what constitutes a pretty Chinese girl, and this is actually one of the reasons behind some Chinese girls' attraction to foreign men. Obviously, if you are considered a "little ugly" by men of your own culture and then you come across a Western man who sincerely views and treats you as beautiful, it is understandable that the woman will be highly flattered, perhaps even grateful, and attracted in turn. The cultural difference in perception regarding what constitutes a pretty Chinese girl is so pronounced that one can actually find a public discussion among Chinese men on the China Daily forum titled "Do Foreign Men Have Ugly Chinese Girlfriends? http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/viewthread.php?gid=3&tid=496475&extra=page%3D4&page=1"

As a further illustration, in 2001, People magazine voted young Chinese actress Zhang Ziyi as one of the 50 most beautiful people in the world. However, when Peng Bo, president of the Shanghai Time Cosmetic Surgery Hospital, was asked to comment on Zhang's title and whether he personally considered her to be beautiful, he refused to give a direct answer to the question. Instead, he replied "I would only say her face is up to the standard of beauty. Zhang's job requires that she has to be assertive" (China Daily, 2005). In other words, according to at least one director of a cosmetic surgery center in China, Zhang does not qualify as one of the 50 most beautiful people in the world in 2001 as she just meets the standard of "beauty," and has a look that he apparently regards as too "assertive" or hard in appearance. Therefore, it is not surprising at all that Zhang Ziyi would eventually find herself a foreign boyfriend (multimillionaire Vivi Nevo). Obviously, if a young Chinese movie star of international acclaim for her beauty cannot pass muster in China, there isn't much hope here for the majority of women. And, in fact, this partially explains how Western men fit into the picture.

Summary
Day-to-day life in China is not easy for anyone, but it is fair to say that it is far more difficult for women than it is for men. Especially following the advent of the 1979 single-child policy, girls in China face a very unusual set of culture-specific dynamics unknown to the same degree in other societies. On one hand, their arrival into this world will be met with profound disappointment, especially by their fathers who may regard and resent them as a lost opportunity to perpetuate the family name, and both parents will fear an uncertain future in their old age. On the other hand, as their only child, they will still be, nevertheless, terribly pampered and spoiled. This particular constellation of factors results in an ideal cultural environment for producing an entire generation of women with profound narcissistic injury, i.e., women who suffer from a sense of constitutional damage coupled with an extreme sense of entitlement.

This is the first unit in a series that include:
Understanding Chinese Women
Narcissistic Types Among Chinese Women
Unavailability and Underrepresentation of English Speaking Chinese Women
Dating and Marital Preferences Among Young Chinese Women
Understanding The Attraction to Foreign Men
Dating Etiquette, Sex, and Relationships in China
How and Where Do I Find English-Speaking Chinese Women
Advantages to Having a Chinese Wife in China
Homosexual Relationships in China
Prostitution in China
The link to the next unit is http://middlekingdomlife.com/guide/narcissistic-types-chinese-women.htm. Read up and get some background info............

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RE: Understanding Chinese Women
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2010, 04:57:08 am »
This is some very heavy stuff to read... It makes me think about how the life must be for a woman in China today..
Better to be married to a wife from Changsha then have 7000 women in Chnlove

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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2010, 12:20:59 pm »
always posting some really interesting reading Paul

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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2010, 01:27:27 pm »
Peter,


Not as bad as some of these Forum reports make out... Many of the Chinese women  looking for western hubby's, don't want to leave China!!  That should tell you something.  These reports are always a mixture of fact and fiction, and always slanted towards the way the writer wants it to go!!

David.....

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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2010, 04:52:52 pm »
Excellent reading Paul, thanks!

Peter I second that, Chinese women often make leaving their country their second choice, sort of a sacrifice in order to attain happy married life. My ex actually avoided the sun after 12 years in France, not for the color of her skin but to avoid ageing too fast ... the Chinese women got that part right.

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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2010, 08:03:30 pm »
Paul,   Excellent info as usual. Thanks

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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2010, 04:00:54 pm »
Info as per usual...OUTSTANDING:icon_cheesygrin:

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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2010, 08:57:50 am »
Really good read
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2010, 05:36:54 pm »
Very interesting Paul..   Thanks.
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2010, 05:32:35 pm »
Paul , you know I read this and printed it out on Paper and thought ... I will let Qing read it and see what her comment on this is . Well , she read the first couple paragraph's and she did look phycially upset over it :@ . She refused to read on ... as she said , this is by no mean true today or during her Parent's time . I try to convince her that many ( and I mean many ) western people have a totally wrong picture of China , just by the people I meet alone . I have mentioned this before , it upset's me to have to listen to someone badmouth China ... when he/she has no Idea of today's or the China of not too long ago .
My poor Sweetheart , it took her a while to calm down .

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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2010, 05:51:18 pm »
Arnold,

So many of these reports and articles, are just someones perceptions, where they mix facts and fiction, to confuse and confound the real facts.... I'm sure most of the bad one's have been written by people that have spent minimal time in China....

Unless you know the Author of such reports/articles are trustworthy and factual, take them all with a good pinch of salt..... And Qing has just proved that point!!!

David....

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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2010, 06:17:30 pm »
People I know and I won't say who, hear and read junk like that and believe China is still men in triangle hats pulling rickshaws? I sent them photos and articles of the bullet trains and of the cities there. Maybe they'll learn something? :-/

Paul Todd

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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2010, 10:58:37 pm »
Sorry about that Arnold and Qing, my intention was never to upset anyone.

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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2010, 01:52:01 am »
Paul , you don't have to apologize to either of us . I know and Qing knows that you never meant it to upset anyone . It just got her by surprise . She was shocked that anybody would write such things , as she or her Parent's never experienced such measures in their lifetime . Especially in the City's .
David and Vince are right with their Post's , this might of happened way back when and some fools still believe it to be still this way now .
So , Paul ,  please do continue to previte us with the alway's great artical's that we all appreciate here .

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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2010, 02:44:17 am »
i was always told "why are you going to china again" even after i have told them
 of my adventures here and what i have seen ,many people in the states at least
 think of china a a backwards country and at any given time you will be picked up
 and thrown in jail. yes it is a little different here on everyday life but i told them
 learn the culture and listen to me when i tell you what it is like there dont come
 up with this perception you have of the country basing it on whatever you have
 read or heard. especially on the news because when was the last time the news
 would report good things?? they look for the sensational to report not the good
 also     most of the time