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Pineau:
I hear you Willy and I have no excuses. I somehow justified this idea because of the terrible things that a few ladies and some agencies have done to me. But I have hurt some innocent people and that causes me much pain to think about. Especially when I see the hopes that they put into the chance of a lifetime meeting.  I have met several ladies on this trip and at times  felt as though I was on a job interview with the ladies asking probing questions about my health and physique. It was easy for me to take a pass on those ladies. But most of them were soft hearted gentle women looking to fulfill their dream. The two I am most impressed with are the one in Guangzhou and the one in Dalian. These two are very special to me. I think it is not only hard on the ladies but also on me. I let myself get too close to these two.  It was hard to say good bye to the one in Dalian after spending just two days with her.

I have also listened to some stories about Chinese and foreign men taking advantage of these ladies. There are some real low-life scum men in this world.

Pineau

Willy The Londoner:

--- Quote from: Pineau on October 15, 2010, 09:51:51 pm ---I hear you Willy and I have no excuses. I somehow justified this idea because of the terrible things that a few ladies and some agencies have done to me. But I have hurt some innocent people and that causes me much pain to think about. Especially when I see the hopes that they put into the chance of a lifetime meeting.  I have met several ladies on this trip and at times  felt as though I was on a job interview with the ladies asking probing questions about my health and physique. It was easy for me to take a pass on those ladies. But most of them were soft hearted gentle women looking to fulfill their dream. The two I am most impressed with are the one in Guangzhou and the one in Dalian. These two are very special to me. I think it is not only hard on the ladies but also on me. I let myself get too close to these two.  It was hard to say good bye to the one in Dalian after spending just two days with her.

I have also listened to some stories about Chinese and foreign men taking advantage of these ladies. There are some real low-life scum men in this world.

Pineau

--- End quote ---

I hear what you say but it is no excuse whatsover to involve innocent people in what sounds to be a 'vengeance' campaign.

I think your last lines says it all.    It is men like this that has resulted in Myself and Ted closing our agency.

Willy

ttwjr32:
Well it doesnt surprise me that it has turned out like this. What ever makes a man think its ok to
come to China to visit a few ladies and pick one is beyond me. Its a formula for disaster. Why come
here in such a rush? Wait until you find the one who steals your heart and then come and spend a
few weeks with her. What do you or can you accomplish in a few days??? This is not like a tv show
THE BATCHELOR were women line up for a chance to get with a man.

Even after some time of being with a woman as i have been there are problems that develop and
need to be worked thru so this takes a total commitment from both parties. I think the ladies who
didnt want to see you anymore made the right decision. And now you like the 2 who are at this
time havent told you to get lost completely.

Having lived here and also having the dating site i have talked with many ladies here. They always lead
the conversation to how did i meet my wife? I tell them the process and how we talked and commited to
each other. Well thats when i hear the stories like this from them saying how men came here on an interview
process. They always say i hope i can finally meet one like you. Now i am far from the best man out there but
what they liked was i didnt play i found one and tried to work it out with just the two of us.

What they like was the commitment. There are far to many who just think they can come here and play. No
matter how you look at it thats what this looks like. Come for visit play around and move to the next one. These
ladies will commit to you if you show you are also commited.

If when starting out your worried about a scam then you should not even be looking for a lady here. Yes many
agencies have poor practices but there is a way around that. Just demand direct contact and if it doesnt happen
move to the next one. All the agencies dont have these bad practices.

And when you find a real one she has probably been used like this or knows of someone who has so why do you
think they start out slow. They are looking for the commitment.

Arnold:
Well put Willy and Ted .

I've been against this more than one Lady deal for some three years now . I try'd to tell them ( the ones that thought this was the best way ) on the Official over and over .. it's not ok . But these are only words coming from someone they don't know or care about , so do they listen ? No !
How often was it incouraged even on this Forum about have a Plan 'B' plan 'C' if it fails on Plan 'A' . Well I tell you my Plan 'B' would have been .. I'm here and now I can have been .. let's see/check out this City ( Shanghai ) I came to Visit and go back and maybe try again or not . how many times have we said , let's turn the table .. how would you like it ? Sorry MR. Foreigner , I need to see some other Men first before I decide . That really makes me Sick . This is NOT a Meat market now , is it ?
This has happened to both my Sister's ( Min & Lily ) too .. Men coming here and nothing but Lies lies lies .

Chong:
I don't see anything wrong with meeting more than one lady.

First of all, Pineau's been married to a Chinese woman once before so he's not a newbie. Secondly, he's had bad experience with agencies. How many men in this Forum went to China only to find out that the lady wasn't who she was and then the agency used the "bait & switch". Well, the guy's heart gets broken too. Then most of us advised him that he should have made a plan "B" before he came. Or how many men went to China with the intention of meeting just one woman only to find out that there's no chemistry ? Then most of us tell him to meet others and not waste the trip.

This is dating reality ... hearts get broken. You have to find a woman that you click with. This is no different than the 'speed dating lunches" where you essentially 'interview' 10 women within 10 minutes.

Pineau is travelling thousands of miles; he should have 'options'. Many men have written to two women on Chnlove. After 10 or so letters, they choose one ... and the other woman's heart is broken. Pineau's just doing it face-to-face. Our golden rule here is that you don't know a woman fully until you meet her in person.

Sad to say this but recently, there has been several cases of separation among our membership ... both in marriage and in dating. You REALLY have to know a woman completely before proposing. Pineau's choosing one that he feels a connection with over the other woman.

How did this get from one man breaking one woman's heart to 'men are scums and are here to play & sleep with Chinese women' ?

Willy, you wroted about your dating experiences in China ... dating/sleeping with many until you finally met your wife. I'm sure that you broke many hearts. How is it any different than what's Pineau's doing ? This isn't a personal attack but an observation.

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