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maxx:
Robbie did you take to much medication.I have no idea what football team your talking about.My guess is nobody on this forum except for the U.K guy's know who this football team.If it isn't American football we don't follow it.Like I stated before yes there was some people.In the states who supported the IRA.Was it big and organised no.It was just some wack job in a Irish pub back east.
Also I have no idea who Macdonald is.Is it a American company? The only thing I can think of is Maybe you meant McDonald's.It was started by 2 brothers in Los Angles back in the 60's.It is a publicly held company now that is traded on the New York stock exchange.Each sore is independently owned and operated.Kind of like Subway,Taco bell,KFC,. Or maybe your talking about McDonald Douglas.They manufacture airplanes.They have contracts all over the world.And they have plants all over the world.So I doubt if they support the IRA.
The U.S. government damn sure doesn't support the IRA.England,Australia,Canada,.Are Americas biggest Allies.It makes no sense to support a terrorist group inside the U.K..
Willy you didn't follow along America was hit by terrorist along time before the world trade center.And yes we were well aware of it as the average U.S citizen.It was in all the papers along with every TV station.So it was kind of hard to miss.You may of missed it if you were living in a cave.But I doubt it.Hell we don't even have to import are terrorist like you guys do.We grow are own.Just like the Japanese do.
Scottish_Robbie:
I have not taken too much of my medication maxx..
And I was talking about Mcdonalds the fast food retailers. are they not big and organised?
The initial reason for mentioning the football team was to show a corrilation between sport/religion/terrorism, and btw, the team I mentioned are a globalally supported football/soccer team...Silly me, how could I forget, NOTHING EXISTS if it's NOT AMERICAN...
David E:
Calm down you guys....
The history of sectarian violence, particularly in the old "British Empire" is long and bloody.
Us Brits had a masterful hold on inciting sectarian violence from way, way back in history. The British Empire was a melting pot of violence for centuries....and in Ireland it still goes on, but I think you will find it has evolved more towards a religious division between Protestants and Catholics, rather than a people fighting for self-determination.
We always found it easy to solve internal problems within our "Colonies" by partition and division...and let the buggers fight amongst themselves while we economically, culturally and practically raped and pillaged their Country. !!!
It happened in Ireland, India, Ceylon, Cyprus, Argentine, Aden, Oman, Singapore/Malaya...and lots of little ones that I forgot.
What we have seen in our Modern World ( !!!) is the rise of interracial Terrorism that is fuelled by real religious Division.......a different kettle of fish. We now begin the fundamental struggle between the forces of Christianity and Mohammedanism. That these religious loonies have used the easy excuse (lets hate America as a symbol of all that is bad in the World) it is merely a pretext to enter the holy war. If it was not America they can blame, they would find somebody else...it doesn't matter to them, only need an excuse to begin the Jihad. We saw it before with the Roman Empire, the French Empire, the Dutch Empire and the British Empire.
Too bad that American Policy does not seek to establish Empires through force...only by ecomomic strength, and thats not all bad. When we are talking Jihad, it matters little what the pretext is...they just need something/somebody to get the rabble in the right frame of mind for martyrdom and all that horror stuff we now read about daily.....and the modern Media love it...good for circulation and advertising revenue :-\ :-\
So lets not argue amongst ourselves in pointless debate about old, old, history...what we face NOW is something infinitely worse..........we should all be on the same page about it all....or we will go down to the dark forces now at work in our World. I thank America for finally taking a stand against it........after many, many incidents of provocation as mentioned here.
Willy The Londoner:
We certainly shifted this thread around.
My initial thread made no mention of organisations at all. It was my personal comment on the thread to a posting from a country hardly likely to be hit by terroism that said we would not be concerned about it. I was simply saying that we should always be alert.
I was just spelling out some, but not all, of my own experiences that I have encountered through terroism in my long years. Terroist events seems to follow me. I was in Gibralter three weeks before a group were taken completely out by security forces. I was in Mumbai when they were attacking the Taj and Oberoi hotels and railway station were the targets.
So I was hoping for a quieter life in China.
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Willy you didn't follow along America was hit by terrorist along time before the world trade center.And yes we were well aware of it as the average U.S citizen.It was in all the papers along with every TV station.So it was kind of hard to miss.You may of missed it if you were living in a cave.But I doubt it.Hell we don't even have to import are terrorist like you guys do.We grow are own.Just like the Japanese do.
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You wish the point Maxx. There were some but very few actual attempt at and successful explosions IN the USA before 9/11. Because it is a large county it made little impact on the actual lives of people in places hundreds and hundreds of miles away. It was 9/11 that really opened the average american mind that they all risked danger because of the various attacks that took place the same day. How big is the UK? - not much bigger than some of the US smaller states so when lots of things happen in a smaller area people take more notice.
Willy
maxx:
Ok Robbie one more time.Yes McDonald's is a big cooperation.In the sense of the word.Each restaurant is independently owned and operated..When you buy a McDonald's restaurant all you get is there name and there menu.And the right to have all your food containers branded with the name McDonald's.So you take away the restaurants all you have.Is 2 monkeys and a accountant setting in the head office.
After my last post I did some research.To make sure that I was posting the correct information.I can find nothing that says that America ever supported the IRA.Like I've posted the last three times.It was just some nut jobs who were miss guided.It was not a conspiracy by the United States goverment to kill Limeys.Or support the IRA.
Rob who are the Durham bulls?What sport do they play? Who are the Farmington rough necks. What sport do they play.Both teams have played internationally.Both teams have won world championships in there sport and in there divisions.Or how about the Rockford Peaches what sport do they play.How many world titles have they won?Who is Connie Mack?And what is he famous for
Rob do you see where I'm going.Thees are all American sports teams.And without looking them up on the internet you can't tell me who they are and what Championships they have won.It is the same for Americans.You can name a half a dozen U.K teams.And I have no idea who they are or what sport they play.The only sport that I can think of that really is world wide is probably auto racing.Then you do have drivers that most people know about.It has nothing to do with the attitude that if it isn't American it doesn't matter.
Willy Me and you can argue this point till the world ends.You will not change my mind.and I will not change your mind.Just remember if it has happend in England.It probably has happend in the United States.We are a bigger country with allot more people.And we do have guns.And have access to explosives.And we aren't afraid to use them on are neighbors.It is a sad but true story.
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