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JohnB:
I actually agree with most of what said here. It is a matter of legalities. Laws are ambiguous. Lawyers delight. News services pablum. The common citizen dazed & confused..pissed. What is missing is the element of truth. I still firmly believe the perversions of truth are the politicos. They say anything you want to hear. You cast your vote. WTF happened?
Kind of funny, I saw an upcoming movie clip on Charlie Rose (outstanding commentator on PBS). In a generality, the clip talked about the public that thought America #1, of which like I think, 40% or 60% or so, believed in the existence of angels. We  need to re- introduce "Civics" in school. Maybe we need angels to help the ignoranced see the guiding light. 

Fox News should have an asterisk* on anything published. The rest of the media is questionable.   
The thing I follow is the assault on Julian Assange. A lot of sphincter muscles tightened. If America pulls shit and gets extradition, I truly believe we are in trouble as a free and open democracy. In essence we are just a neurotic police state, the Constitution be damned.

Robertt S:

--- Quote from: JohnB on June 22, 2012, 04:42:34 pm ---I actually agree with most of what said here. It is a matter of legalities. Laws are ambiguous. Lawyers delight. News services pablum. The common citizen dazed & confused..pissed. What is missing is the element of truth. I still firmly believe the perversions of truth are the politicos. They say anything you want to hear. You cast your vote. WTF happened?
Kind of funny, I saw an upcoming movie clip on Charlie Rose (outstanding commentator on PBS). In a generality, the clip talked about the public that thought America #1, of which like I think, 40% or 60% or so, believed in the existence of angels. We  need to re- introduce "Civics" in school. Maybe we need angels to help the ignoranced see the guiding light. 

Fox News should have an asterisk* on anything published. The rest of the media is questionable.   
The thing I follow is the assault on Julian Assange. A lot of sphincter muscles tightened. If America pulls shit and gets extradition, I truly believe we are in trouble as a free and open democracy. In essence we are just a neurotic police state, the Constitution be damned.

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JohnB,
     You are absolutely right, I think the civics and other related programs should be brought back. As far as Julian Assange, he only done what any anarchist would do given the chance. As far as the army private, he should be taken out and placed before a firing squad for treason. The US has many other methods to deal with Assange without making a  public spectacle out of it. Personally I think we tend to stick our political noses in many places it is not wanted or needed, the world's civilizations survived for thousands of years without the United States tending their affairs and will continue to survive. Some places do need help, not just ours but a combined world effort to stabilize areas and stop or prevent famines and diease. Once our government figures out we are not superman or God the better off we will be. The United Nations is basically a joke and a bottomless money pit with no accountability, I think all nations who are members should contribute equally to membership dues and commitments thus restricting the chance of monetary blackmail for supporting votes to sanctions and other forms of political/economic punishments. I think the parents and schools should strive to make students realize the benefits to themselves and their country when they become more self reliant and begin to hold themselves more accountable for their own well being and support and not rely on the NANNY state to survive!      Robert :)

JohnB:
Robert, Robert, Robert,
Julian Assange...anarchist. Doesn't matter the nature of the man. He is a journalist. Whatever happened to the likes of Woodward and Bernstein? Remember Peter Finch in Network? "I'm mad as hell and I am not going to take it anymore."
 Network- I'm Mad as Hell
My hat is off to Dan Rather. The right wing wack jobs were like a pack of hyenas chasing him down. There is no such thing as investigative reporting. Advance at your own risk. The path to truth is perilous with their feces.
When was the last time we had good investigative reporting? Is this not a free country? At least supposedly? Maybe Assange has the right idea, the right approach, to exposing the fraudulent, the questionable activities in government. It is kinda odd. As Assange was going to address the Bank of America fiasco, one of his next commands, stole the information. Makes me wonder about the Judas asshole...how much money he was bought for.

There is money in politics. If you address illegal immigration & enforcement, the issues legal origins begin in congress, and enforcement of the laws by the administration. The louder the noise is the more money generated. There is profit in peoples misery, the corollary becomes increased security. The casualty, freedom.

For what it is worth, boot the bastard Rupert Murdoch out of the U.S. and revoke his bought citizenship. The only thing he ever did right was married a Chinese princess. At least he has good taste in women.   

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