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"Mike" aka China Shark
JohnB:
I don't know if I am stepping on a few feet, but..
I was rooting around the other forum this morning, like a lot of others here do. I always note Mike, aka "China Shark" is quite active. A long time. Maybe I dredge up old shit as I do not know the member particulars of long ago, but WTF, this guy would liven up a few things here. He brings a few things positive, whatever, depending his admirers/ detractors. One thing though, not one can deny his contributions to the other forum. He livens it up!
One thing for certain, all personalities aside, a moribund thread is a kiss of death. It serves no purpose whatsoever, to anyone interested, in whatever.
My somewhat limited impression of him, he is arrogant to the point of being obnoxiously so, but the thing is, he has pedigree, in all things his China (the real China is undefinable, if we think we know, we are delusional, especially so in regards to women; after all, that is why we are here).
It seems this recent “mea culpa” of his is interesting. If I read this wrong, I apologise to everyone, especially to Mike since he is subject to what I write.
This is dated the 16thMay.. http://www.chnlove.com/Replies-Dating-Tips-and-Advice-T4411.html
Learning Chinese is the least of all your worries finding a suitable Chinese wife. I've been on this site for coming up on 5 yrs this October and have yet to meet any Chinese that don't have unrealistic expectations. It's part and parcel, live it, learn to deal with it, get over it. Being an old cantankerous foreigner doesn't necessarily make you the cat' meow. The girl I moved to Shenzhen I imagine is living with her pediatrian husband in America now. I'm happy for her, she hit the jackpot or at least in the Chinese mindset. The first 4 months I lived here with her we barely communicated via English {verbal}. Many on the forums think we can change others in life, it ain't that simple. If you're on this site you're either desperate,old, ugly, overweight with social disorders, etc. Personally, I'm not part of the latter class with the exception of being 50 yrs old. Trolls think because you can promise a green card the world is thier oyster. Too many on here like to be accussatory towards agengcies, blah, blah, it's everyone's fault but mine, come on get a grip men children. No one made any of you join up yet alone create these wild fantasies in your dillusion minds. Iniatially yes I was dissappointed yet living here none of any of you have the slightest clue to know what's it's like to struggle in this world. Being Chinese living in a Chinese world sucks, everyone is angling for a better life here even guys like me looking for my great break, to publish my life's work. Till about 3 months ago I never comprehended what it must be like yet now I see with clear eyes and the sobering experience woke me up to the truth, why are we here? To leave our mark, something to let people far in the future that we made a difference in people's life's. For this I've forsaken, family friends the whole shebang to reach my dream. I't not about how many Asian women you sleep with, or how rich or beautiful your girlfriend or wife is. It's about the things that are intangible in life. I met the one in the summer of 2009, she'll always be the one reguardless of how ill mannered or bad I treated her. No how many women I dated or slept with she never escaped my heart. A few months back I stopped all the carrousing and started focusing on myself. If I want a better life I need to be a better person, need to restrain myself from all the negative activities in my life. {smoking, drinking}, train my mind by writing a few hours a day, reading a few hours a day, bodybuilding and strength cardiovascular training. If I want to find my dream I need to find myself first and then I have a bountiful to offer my future Chinese bride. 4 months oe so ago I was the loud ignorant western braggert much like most on here. Then, suddenly an ephinany {spelling} descended from the heavens above me to start over. Sounds faggy but what can I say I am the original unadulterated uncompromised China Shark. Somethings are babysteps, I'm trying already damn it I'm CSM!!!!! Newbies get your pencils and notebooks ready, if you have any pride push aside personalities to achieve and accomplish your goals. Want to be a crybaby, hey, China is filled with those kind of guys. Show the woman you know what it is to be a real man. Westerns have the advantages yet they can't seem to let go of thier own insecurities in life. Give you an example. Girlfriend number one started dating her probably husband a few years ago. She explained our past and that was it. We remained in touch over the years due to our unusual circumstances, also and our birthdays were on the same exact date. She would call me up the first couple of years to go out to dinner for our birthdays. After the second year it was just a birthday phonecall. This doctor dude didn't even like the fact that I lived in the same city with her, I and 12 other million people. Insecurity out the wazoo, big time. Anyway I am always there with a helping hand for the legitimate guys,however they always to be in short supply here though. Gotta go workplace is closing up.
China Shark Mike
Robertt S:
I think the economic conditions around the globe have put a damper on many sites that involve long distance relationships and foreign travels. Many people currently do not have the resources to even think about a LDR at this time. The ones with the resources are keeping their money rat-holed in case the economy falls back into recession. I think once people feel more comfortable with their finances and economic outlook, they will be back here asking questions. :) As far as China Mike, he spends time over at this site also, but it too is suffering the scourge of low traffic and boredom! ;)
http://www.lovelovechina.com/
P.S. I own a full-function dating site and can barely give away free memberships now, back in 2008 and 2009 I would have needed to add bandwidth to keep up with membership levels. :o
Neil:
It doesn't take much research these days to find out that, if you had the desire to find a Chinese wife, and bring her home, it's bloody difficult, and expensive. I don't know if it's any easier with a Filipino wife, but I sure see a lot more Filipino women coming to Canada, and they seem to have it a lot easier.
I read somewhere that something like 25% of Canadians were not born here. I forget the actual percentage. It seems like Canada is trying to close the floodgates. I don't know if it's a good idea or a bad one.
On the subject of Mike, I have no opinion. He's abrasive to the point of scaring people off, and guys like me aren't going to learn anything from him.
shaun:
I really don't have a problem with Mike. I take all of his outrageous behavior with a grain of salt.
The real problem is that he has burned his bridge with many on this site. There have been many brutal accusations and comments made.
If my memory serves me correctly, the final straw was when a member here was in China and was having some particular issue with a woman. Mike took it upon himself to judge the person. I think he either threatened or went to the hotel to kick the guy's tail.
I can't blame the mods for kicking him off the site.
I really don't think there is a place for him here.
Besides I don't think he would be willing to come back.
David E:
I dont really have a problem with Mike either....apart from the gross ego-centricity, the tendency to personal abuse, the condescending and patronising manner in which he conducts relationships with others and the automatic assumption that he knows better than anyone about everything.
Mike ( and to a lesser extent, our Willy) are always quick to define the veracity of a relationship with a Chinese Woman as only to be understood if you live in China. It seems that Mike in particular holds in contempt those of us who choose to take our Chinese Partner to our own Country and is always quick to deride those who do this as being knowlege-deficient about all things Chinese Women related.
I have always felt that those Western Men who choose to up-sticks and live in China with their chosen one have the easy bit !! Unless you have been through the emotional meat grinder that is inevitable with Immigration issues, I dont know if you have ever really tested a relationship with a Foreign Lady. From the perspective of completing the process of Migration for our partners, I believe we can consider ourselves the one's who have done it really tough.
As for livening up the Forum...I think Rob is exactly right, The GFC has made Governments a lot less Migration friendly and a lot of guys just dont have the resources to begin a long, complex and expensive mission to find a Foreign Bride...that's probably why our traffic has slowed a lot. To have Mike or similar just come here to stir the pot and get everybody riled up seems to be counter-productive. By all means let's acknowlege that people have different views and should not be discouraged fom airing them, but just to use the Forum for personal abuse would be tragic.
Nevertheless, in its heyday, this Forum was a life-saver for me and many other guys, we had the ability to share experiences and apart from a very few notable exceptions we managed to avoid heaps of personal abuse and vitriol.
Those of us whom have completed our journey are always here with advice and help whenever it is needed, but for the moment we are coasting in neutral due to lack of activity because the demand for info. is low....but we are always around, always reading and still part of the whole thing.
Just my 2 cents worth :-\ :-\ :-\
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