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"Mike" aka China Shark
Philip:
Like roadkill faced with a convoy of juggernauts, I don't think anyone could possibly miss what he repeatedly writes. The fact that he switches from self-aggrandizing guru to maudlin paranoiac only reveals two sides of the same coin. Personally-speaking, I get much more from hearing people's journey to China, with (and against) immigration, rather than any attendant interpretations or opinions. CSM's regular appointment with disappointment has less to do with cultural differences, than it has to do with personal make-up. We all had an image of China and Chinese women before we went there or met one, and have had to adapt our image when confronted with the reality. But if your self-image is that far removed from reality, think how much more difficult it must be to overcome cultural preconceptions, not just in China, but anywhere.
I am about the same age as the shark, living and working in Chongqing with my wife and 6-month-old son. I might even be one of the ugly, old and overweight ones CSM loves to characterize everyone who isn't him as. I'm not desperate, nor do I have any social disorders, but if I start exploding with vicious verbal diarrhea as soon as anyone disagrees with my worldview, you have every right to cart me off to the funny farm. I sometimes share my experiences in the hope that they might resonate with other people, and they might be of some practical benefit. I also hope I write well and am funny sometimes. But I don't wear a badge that says I know more about China than any Westerner, whether they live here or not.
In a crude way, CSM is helpful to newbies, in the same way that a concerned parent slaps a toddler's wrist to stop them from burning their hands. But after the rookie errors many of us make, we may need something a little more sophisticated in the way of advice, when it comes to the more complex issues of day-to-day living with a Chinese woman. The other site is full of "How do Chinese ladies have sex?" questions, and CSM slaps their wrist. Good for him. This site deals with more complex issues, with more in-depth questions than "Why didn't it work out with my latest girlfriend?". So maybe CSM should just carry on with his public service to newbies, while we carry on with the grown-up stuff.
fivetrout:
We are all about acceptance here, yes? New ideas, new concepts, re-education of preconceived ideologies? Also new cultures that come with undeniable challenges. I have in the past blasted a few on the other site, a few with blow-hart self importance issues, arrogant, rude, and obnoxious! Sure CSM has taken points to the extreme at times, but for those here that really listen to his message...he is fighting for the respect and honor of the typical Chinese woman. We have all read posts from men with less then good character, trying to degrade these women, and classify them more as a commodity or as schemers at best. And when CSM ripped them a new a$$, not one here... can truthfully say he didn't support it! Just as there are many here that only write about the virtues, and sugarcoat a lot about visiting China, I also appreciate the realistic truths that all members share from their experiences. Mike has shared his victories with us...as well as his sorrows to reach and teach others. Anyway, that's my perspective!
IrishGuy65:
Since this thread was created, I've taken some time to review some of these posts. In civilized society, communication has 2 parts, giving information and getting information (speaking and listening, basically). When speaking, there are also two parts. One is the message, one is the conveyance of the message. A good communicator is one who uses both parts to get his message across. If you only use one half, your message has a chance of being lost. For example, if I'm walking down a street and see a friend, then he smiles at me and I notice he has spinach in his teeth, there are several ways to tell him. One, I say, "You have spinach in your teeth." in a quiet voice. Another way would be to say, as loudly as an American can say it, "You stupid son of a bitch, you have some green shit in your teeth!! Don't you know anything about hygiene?"
So, go back and read some of his posts. Can you tell me what his message generally is? Some here have said he thinks he is better than everyone. Some say his message is that you have to live in China to know something about Chinese women. You get the idea, there are many different opinions. My point is, whatever you think about China Shark Mike, I can tell you this: he is not a very good communicator. So, his message is often to garbled to be understood.
I think the original question was: Wouldn't he liven up the place? My answer would be yes, but that isn't what this forum is really about. It's about information sharing and helping people like myself, who are going through what many of you have already gone through. Getting and sharing information to help current and future members understand what they are getting into, and helping them find success in their journeys... that is what this forum is about. I personally would say that CSM would take just as much away from this forum as he would add to it. Liveliness doesn't equate to enjoyment.
Just a relative newbie to this forum's opinion here.
john1964:
Some say his message is that you have to live in China to know something about Chinese women.
He is obviously is a obnoxious SOB , i read that he has had relationships with no fewer than 7 women in his stay in China, Many Chinese women like the idea of a western husband but when they meet the "fish", they bolt, 7 women ???, cant see it is all their fault for the relationship to end???, they have learnt how arrogant this man is and run, just my opinion, John>
shaun:
JohnB. Great observation.
Plus your thread has, through CSM, livened things up a little bit on this site.
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