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JohnB:
Maxx,
sorry to have upset any patriotic sensitivities of yours.
I do not see what you say. maybe I should explain 'what I inferred'. I begin..in no way do I denigrate any veteran of any war of anytime (of which includes me). we did what we had to do or what we felt deeply within our hearts.
the thing is, what happens today is unlike what happened years back. where & when I grew up, the south side of Chicago, the very vast majority of the husbands/ fathers, just 'guys', all served their county, most being WWll veterans. patriotism was universal, being that war was just a decade past & it seemed like the important thing of the day was raising a family.
the product of the mindset back then was that the 'common man' was the universal force behind this great nations success in war & certainly in peace. the draft was in full force and I venture to say that most our country's citizens (including wives & mothers) willingly gave up a chunk of their youth if not their lives so our country remained free and prosperous and of course safe from any foreign interference. everyone was involved with the health of our nation.
the true meaning of Armistice Day back then was a reflection of being that war affects us all. war just does not happen...war is a measurement of something failed, that war is a weapon of last resort. war is death.
let us never forget.
the circumstances are different today. it seems there is no real urgency...wars far away, strange people in strange places. no great demands on our personal freedom or personal wealth. yet the logistics of the today's situation is we have, as in the United States, armed forces in 150 countries world wide. you have to wonder, like what the hell comes next (it will)..&/ or are we complicit if something goes to shit. do we not learn from our history?
the average person on the street is ignorant other than some holiday sale.
maxx:
John
No worries brother. You did not offend me. What I was trying to point out to you. Is that we do care. We don't want to see you or any of are fellow Americans die in some stupid war. That in a few years will go back to the way it was anyway. I do have the utmost respect for you and your brothers and sisters who served to defend are way of life. And are freedom.
I think the reason that you don't see the loyalty/ patriotism. That you seen in your youth. Is that we are tired of the lies. The back door deals. Are leaders have lost are confidence in them. Russia Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. Were all lies. All of these silly manufactured lies cost us American lives.
Here is a good example of how the government lies have effected the youth of this great nation. 9-11. I watch it on the TV. My first thought. Oh my god those poor people. My second thought. Well Bush is trying to make a name for himself. Baby boy wants to be a man. And have his little war just like his old man.
So we invade Iraq. Holly shit there is no chemical weapons. There are no weapons of mass destruction. Bush is throwing everybody and his brother under the bus trying to cover his own ass. Then it comes out that Iraq has billions of dollars in American cash stored in a bank in Baghdad and Bush wants it back. And of course all the oil him and his cronies can steal.
I had a bet going with one of my work mates. I bet him that Osama bin laudin. Was just some poor schmuck sheep hearder. That didn't even know his name was being used.As public enemy # 1.How wrong I was. Osama's old man was pissed because he had left the sheep unattended. So he gave Bush his kids name. before the old man and the rest of the family flew out of the united states on 9-11
I think the Who said it the best. We won't be fooled again. I seen a movie about the Vietnam war. One of the actors is setting there with his guitar. He sings (hey uncle Sam for no reason at all all my friends have died in Vietnam). It was just a movie to me the first time I seen it.20 years latter I seen the movie again. And I think maybe the singer knew something that I didn't maybe he really knew that allot of good people lost there lives. Because somebody somewhere thought that putting the military in Vietnam. And then tying there hands was a good idea.
John my generation is not any smarter then your generation. My generation is just better informed. We have heard and seen the videos. Of there lies. And we will not blindly follow some power hungry monkey into oblivion.
Rhonald:
What an awesome picture Willy....... a moat of poppies, that emote emotion with its crimson red!
The poem that Cypherdragon posted was written by a Canadian military doctor: Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae, MD (November 30, 1872 – January 28, 1918) was a Canadian poet, physician, author, artist and soldier during World War I, and a surgeon during the Second Battle of Ypres, in Belgium. He is best known for writing the famous war memorial poem "In Flanders Fields". McCrae died of pneumonia near the end of the war.
It is a very fitting poem, and this year's Remembrance day ceremony had the somber reminder, where at our National War memorial a soldier standing guard at the tomb of the unknown soldier, was killed in a heinous act by a deluded individual just a mere few weeks ago, that this price of freedom we know, is oft purchased with a sacrafice of life.
After watching this year's ceremony from our war memorial located in Ottawa, I watched a very interesting documentary about our WW2 Canadian Army Film and Photo Unit (CFPU) exploits. It was the first Allied unit to provide film of the assault waves landing in Sicily and Normandy, the first to get still pictures from Normandy onto the front pages of the world press, and the only one to produce colour pictures of Operation Overlord.
Members of the CFPU were often in the front line, sometimes even ahead of it. During the liberation of Dieppe in 1944, as the Manitoba Dragoons awaited orders to advance, members of the CFPU were the first Allied servicemen to enter the town.
In April 1945 the journalist Lionel Shapiro wrote in Maclean's magazine:
"CFPU men were in the thick of every battle, often moving with the most forward units, on a few occasions positioning themselves at a vantage point in no-man's land in anticipation of a clash."
I just noticed that this is my 1500th post. What a fine number to remember it being about Remembrance day.
Go and hug a veteran today!
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