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NZ imigration my sad storry
craig:
I can post now yeah
Anyway my sad sorry I have known my partner for one year now
and visited her for one month in January and then we decided to apply for a visa for her to come there were some issues we need to sort out so did not apply to may and after waiting this week we were told NO
The reason that was give was that we do not belive that your partnership is stable and likely to endure and the main reasons are we do not belive you can communicate affectively as a couple and we don't think you have spent enough time together physically. They also considered my partner as just a vistor without me helping and said they do not belive that she has a enough social or economic reason to leave here ( even though she has a young son and a house )
Because you may not know in NZ there is no visa for finance or married person. But there is visitors visa as partner that can last 2 years or work visa as partner which also can last two years. and there is residence visa but for that you must have lived together for 12 months first.
For the partner ones you must have meet ( they do not say how long)
and be over 18 and to be the sponsoring partner have not sponsored someone else in the last 5 years and not have no convictions of abuse etc etc and you have to be agree to support partners living costs with bank records and pay slips etc etc .
So apart form a lot of paper that was easy. Then there is a second part you must prove the relationship is stable and likely to endure.
So we sent photos and letters phone records chat records and copies of cards and things for birthdays Then then they called us and interviewed us and then I knew there was an issue she is like your partner speaks little English I m like true but we communicated fine just look at all the phone records and besides when we also speak Chinese ( though I speak like a 3 yld in Chinese ) so she fires of some high speed Chinese and I ask her to slow down in Chinese but she does not. Then she is like we get back to you.
Then an email saying here is a problem please answer before we make our decision so that is one good thing that they must tell you the problem and give you a chance to respond. So I got my freinds and chinese teacher to write letters and my daughter and my partner did the same.
A week later they wrote a sorry letter again and and said we considered your answers but we do not feel that and you have no right of appeal.
So I called the visa officer in Beijing and asked her to explain she is like fix the communications and it should not be a problem so I have asked in an email for her to write that down.
I hope so as if she does maybe we can try for a student visa to learn English to show we are fixing the problem
They did make some procedural mistakes and I have records of that and can complain about that but you get the feeling if you complain that it will only be harder next time .
Its a bloody bastered and I would be in China now but I look after my son and the current job I m in they will not let me take leave for 6 months because of the critical project im on
and i thought the US was hard
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maxx:
Craig the only thing I can suggest is have a immagration attorney look at your paperwork and your ladies paperwork.See if the attorney can't get tis pushed threw
Danny:
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Craig the only thing I can suggest is have a immagration attorney look at your paperwork and your ladies paperwork.See if the attorney can't get tis pushed threw
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I am really sorry about this. I really think you need to get some expert advice.
There is probably some other way through this.
There might be some kind of compromise. They might be prepared, for example, to give you a two year tourist visa, and then agree to review it after that time.
There might be no appeal of this particular decision, but if you ask them to make another, different decision, that gives them a chance to make a different decision.
craig:
yes I m waiting for my friend to come back from the UK as he does that for UK people moving here he is back in a couple of weeks and see what he thinks
I emailed him and said there are a few options but some take longer than others
There is some government ombudsman that you can complain to but that takes forever
and one other option is to talk to my Member of parliament to get them to get things moving
I also emailed the Visa officer to confirm if that one item communication was the only issue
as that is what the letter we got stated and I also asked her if it was only her decision
So I will have to wait a week of so to get my friends advice
Danny:
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yes I m waiting for my friend to come back from the UK as he does that for UK people moving here he is back in a couple of weeks and see what he thinks
I emailed him and said there are a few options but some take longer than others
There is some government ombudsman that you can complain to but that takes forever
and one other option is to talk to my Member of parliament to get them to get things moving
I also emailed the Visa officer to confirm if that one item communication was the only issue
as that is what the letter we got stated and I also asked her if it was only her decision
So I will have to wait a week of so to get my friends advice
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I would only use the appeals as a last resort, when you have tried everything else and failed.
I would also try to talk to the people who are involved in your case in the immigration department.
No matter how upset you are, try to be friendly with them. Ask them whether they have any suggestions about the way forward.
If you need to vent, do it somewhere else than when you are talking to the bureaucrats. They are only applying the rules as they understand them. It's nothing personal to them.
If you don't have money to get paid immigration advice, contact a legal aid office. They might be able to suggest someone who is able to help.
What you need at the moment is information about the rules and information about what you have to meet immigration requirements.
Stay focused!
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