China Romance
General Discussion and Useful Links => Ask An Experienced Member => Topic started by: David E on August 30, 2009, 05:26:52 am
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Can I ask for some help here Bros...
The Woman I am corresponding with has told me she cant do web-cam.QQ chat because her Agency (Changsha Love Bridge) does not have web-cam ( !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
I suspect I am being diddled by translator here and I seem to remember there was some prior discussion about this Agency, but I cant find the post.
Any body ever had a web-cam session with any Woman from this Agency ? If I can definitely establish that the Agency has a web-cam, then I will let fly at CHNLove
Thanks Guys
DavidE
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oh my a agency with out a web cam geez they dont cost a arm and a leg do they what eaver next.
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David E
No web cam?
Why don't you offer to send them a web cam or buy them one?
That will cut the wheat from the shaft pretty fast!
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David E
No web cam?
Why don't you offer to send them a web cam or buy them one?
That will cut the wheat from the shaft pretty fast!
I would be 99.999999% sure that they DO have web-cam....but they think I'm stupid and if I cant speak to the Woman on web-cam I will keep on endlesly using EMF's. I am not even sure that the Lady herself (if indeed she is replying to ANY of my EMF's and I am not talking with only a translator !!!!) has any idea about the Agency's tactics here. I just want to catch them out in a fraud...or catch the Woman in similar fraud and move on !!!
DavidE
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Can I ask for some help here Bros...
The Woman I am corresponding with has told me she cant do web-cam.QQ chat because her Agency (Changsha Love Bridge) does not have web-cam ( !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
I suspect I am being diddled by translator here and I seem to remember there was some prior discussion about this Agency, but I cant find the post.
Any body ever had a web-cam session with any Woman from this Agency ? If I can definitely establish that the Agency has a web-cam, then I will let fly at CHNLove
Thanks Guys
DavidE
David,
Check in the Ask and Experienced Member section the Brotherhood List of Lady Profile. You can see some of the things they say about P216.
You might also talk with Peter and with Nik. Their women are from Changsha but I do not know which agency. Pinky is at another agency there P218.
There are several others who have ladies there but I cannot recall who they are right now. You might check the Photos and Your Trip sections, some of the threads there might reveal which city and agency there were at recently.
Shaun
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I've been corresponding with a few gals from this agency.
They seem to be quite aggressive in sending you cupid notes and emails, although I have my doubts as to whether the girls were actually involved much in writing the emails. Some of the emails got a bit fruity as well, which set alarm bells ringing :blush: .
I would proceed with caution, although I think the agency is quite big, and may just have lots of girls on their books.
Also, depending on what career your girl is in (and whether she lives at home or in a company dormitory or something) then she may have email/webcam facilities at work or her home. Some girls also work during the week and go home occasionally.
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What we must remember is that although Chnlove is solely for searching for men overseas the individual agencies are also looking for men in China for their ladies and alos use other international websites.
I am told that an agency would not last on the dealings just from Chnlove.
Willy
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David E,
I think you have the same sort of problem as Shaun had, a translator ''playing God''
Maybe a postscript to the translator at the bottom of your next letter, politely saying that if communications don't move forward to progress your relationship with your lady in a timely manner, then you will seriously consider moving on to pastures greener, and see what comes back!!
To say that any of these agencies don't have the use of a single webcam set-up with in the office, is just an outright nonsense!!! Have a look at the agency photo's in the link on your ladies profile page, you might even see a webcam in one of the pictures of the office.... worth a look at least. Another idea is to see if that agency has any profiles with video, sometimes the video is taken within the office areas, so again have a look see.... I'll leave to others, ....on there experiences of this agency!!
David....
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David..we have had many problems with that agency. There are at least two agencies in Changsha...one is the Changsha Love Bridge is the one with issues, and at one time, we recommended members not to use this agency, or at least to do so with your eyes open.
P218-ChangSha MeiYin International Marriage Introduction Company has a much better reputation. If you want to learn about this agency, you could send Peter a PM.
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Thanks abigbutt. I'm getting some strange EMFs from this agency, so I'm glad my girl's from a different city.
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Well, the phone number my girl gave me was her translator's as well. I never found out until I was about to leave for China. It's not always a scam for that to happen, sometimes the agencies protect the ladies privacy as much as possible by offering a safe phone number to be contacted at.
That being said, I will agree, that agency sounds like it's run by some shady individuals and I wouldn't trust it. It's a shame Chnlove hasn't done something about this agency yet.
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I am planning to visit P216 end of October or in November so I will write about my findings.
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Andy, could you please schedule a visit earlier? My dancer lady is from that agency :icon_cheesygrin: and drives me crazy!
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Can I ask for some help here Bros...
The Woman I am corresponding with has told me she cant do web-cam.QQ chat because her Agency (Changsha Love Bridge) does not have web-cam ( !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
I suspect I am being diddled by translator here and I seem to remember there was some prior discussion about this Agency, but I cant find the post.
Any body ever had a web-cam session with any Woman from this Agency ? If I can definitely establish that the Agency has a web-cam, then I will let fly at CHNLove
Thanks Guys
DavidE
In 2008, I traveled to Changsha, China to meet and date a lady from the Changsha Love Bridge Agency (P216). The lady looked like the photo.
The Changsha Love Bridge Agency requested that I give $200.00 to the lady’s parents. The private emails that you get are fake. The private email addresses are control by the agency. The agency seems to be primarily interested in maximizing their profits while you are in Changsha, China. Make sure that the lady is serious about marriage and is not just dating to get money (shopping, gifts, and generating EMFs for the agency).
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Also, the agency does have a webcam! It isn't the translators...it's the agency...THEY ARE A SCAM!:dodgy:
Hi abigbutt
You said that the Agency DOES have a web -cam ?...is this an opinion or have you been on web-cam at Changsha Love Bridge yourself ?? or do you know someone who has ?
The reason for my query is that if I can find real evidence that one of us has actually been on a web-cam there before August 22nd 2009...I caught them out !!!...and I will have a chance to get seriously hostile with them...dont know if it will do any good...but will make me feel better :):)...and I am sick to death of being screwed by Agencies that CHNLove apparently cannot control !!
Hi Froseman
When you visited this Agency, did you have opportunity to speak with the Woman you met on web-cam before you set off on your trip ??
Ta
DavidE
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I visited agency P216 in April. They are a scam. The translator I met was in on it too. You can read my experiences in 'Long distance journey...' in My Trip to China. I visited the premises and they certainly have webcams. I am in the process of getting 51 EMFs back from Chnlove - this may happen. The many young women are mostly eye-candy in my opinion, aimed at getting you to China to then offer you other women when you get there. I was fortunate enough to visit P218, which is a good agency. Think very carefully before visiting a lady from P216. Complain to Chnlove.
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I visited agency P216 in April. They are a scam. The translator I met was in on it too. You can read my experiences in 'Long distance journey...' in My Trip to China. I visited the premises and they certainly have webcams. I am in the process of getting 51 EMFs back from Chnlove - this may happen. The many young women are mostly eye-candy in my opinion, aimed at getting you to China to then offer you other women when you get there. I was fortunate enough to visit P218, which is a good agency. Think very carefully before visiting a lady from P216. Complain to Chnlove.
Thank you Alex
You have answered my question ...now I will have a good go at them and CHNLove
DavidE
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David...the other agency I listed before in Changsha is a good agency. As well, there are other agencies throughout China that are reputable (in my opinion). I used an agency in Shenzhen, and chat regularly with my translator there..even though I have not used their services since March.
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David,
They say P218 is a good agency and I will accept that but if you should find a girl whose translator is Melody ask for another translator immediately. She must have got her training at P216.
Shaun
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mmmmm
216 is very "iffy", Shaun says Melody from 218 is "iffy"
I think I will steer clear of Changsha as a "target" City :):)
DavidE
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David,
don't discount Changsha. It's a lovely city. I had the time of my life (after the initial disappointment with the one bad agency). P218 is a good agency. Peter recently got married to a lady from there. I am going there in October. I met some of the translators and they were very nice and genuine. Don't know about this 'Melody'. If you see anyone you like, I think it would be worth writing to her. You will notice that most of the ladies are in their 30s, 40s and 50s, unlike P216, where they are mostly in their 20s.
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Nik also married someone from Changsha. personally, I think Hunan...and Changsha are great places. The food is pretty spicy there, and the people are fantastic!
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There sure a lot of beautiful women in Changsha. I hear P218 is very good. My problem could be an isolated incident. For now I am assuming that is the one translator. David5o said that he thinks he either remembers her or heard of her and the thing he remembers is that there is some kind of (family) relations there. (with the ownership I think)
David, don't discount Changsha and P218 based on my situation because the rest of the agency may be good. When I first came to the brotherhood there was a person there who was having serious issues with P216. He was there and saw the woman he came to see the first night. The next morning he found outr she didn't want to see him again. P216 dropped the ball. It seems he was there for 2 weeks with no woman to visit and nothing to do. He called P218 and they sent someone over and took him to the agency. They kept him entertained with several women to choose from and he left there quite happy. I can't remember who it was but I do remember how P218 reached out to him and turned things around.
Shaun
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Shaun, that person was me. I spent a few days at the P218 agency, using their computers, getting to know the translators, some of the women on their books, going on a few dates, and singing karaoke! Now have four sisters (translators and ladies from the agency) We are on regular QQ contact. Nothing is 100% guaranteed, but I don't think you will have problems with this agency
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Yes there are beautiful ladies in Changsha, so don't write off a whole city!
I have just chatted to my lady on MSN and she gave me her company URL which had a picture of her on it. So I now know my girl is genuine, even if her agency might not be!
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I am sure there are lovely Ladies in every City in China...and I wouldnt write off any place.
But my quest is not to see a lot of China...I've been there 13 times in 4 years...to many different Cities and seen lots of stuff !!!....loved every minute of China in all respects...hated every minute I was being screwed by Agencies that were not ethical.
I am only interested in finding a decent, honest woman....unpolluted by "Agency flavour and photo shopped appearance"...dont really give a hoot what City she comes from !!!
I am just trying to eliminate any Agency that has a bad rep. Changsha Love Bridge, or the woman I am writing to, or both, have told me a lie about web-cam/QQ...so why would I even dream of continuing with this Agency or this Woman ???...to continue would just be playing their game again and soaking up EMF's.
What the Brotherhood has taught me is....communicate outside EMF's...or move on if they wont do it !!!
DavidE
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Here we go!
Looking through the ladies photos like I always do. One of these new ones, as soon as I opened the profile I knew it was a fake one. Just by the first photo. Then seeing where it came from. So I strolled through the photos and then at number 6 was a complete halt. There's no way nobody didn't notice this?
Profile ID: P216546 from Changsha/HuNan 6th picture
I hope this isn't anyones girl? Your writing to the translators.
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Here we go!
Looking through the ladies photos like I always do. One of these new ones, as soon as I opened the profile I knew it was a fake one. Just by the first photo. Then seeing where it came from. So I strolled through the photos and then at number 6 was a complete halt. There's no way nobody didn't notice this?
Profile ID: P216546 from Changsha/HuNan 6th picture
I hope this isn't anyones girl? Your writing to the translators.
Hi Vince, not sure if I catched what you mean. I checked and could see the 10 photos. Or do yo mean photos 1-6 are from one lady and 7-10 from other???
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Vince, I went and seen what your talking about, photo number 6 is showing a "money shot ", and after reading what is said I believe it is a translator also, I really hope this is not someones GF.
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At the risk of repeating myself, no-one should consider ANY women from this agency. The rot extends higher than the translators. It goes right to the top. And translators writing letters is only part of the scam. They are quite adept and sly at covering their traces. After five months of complaining to Chnlove about my experience in the most diplomatic way, they have finally refused to give me a refund of 45 credits. I feel I got close, but no cigar. (They had earlier refunded 6 credits as a goodwill gesture!) Chnlove knew it was a scam, but P216 agency are very clever at their Chinese sting. I was bitten and survived.
I would advise guys not even to look at the pretty pictures. If I want a cheap thrill, I would be reading that the Changsha Love Bridge Agency staff are all in jail for fraud.
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Jesus Christ!, now I see, I must be getting blind or I've lost my "Basic Instinct" :icon_biggrin:
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Manuel, you can use my glasses if you need to Hahaha!!!
Alex, now them being sent to jail would be very good but, you and I know that won't be happening no time soon.
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Manuel, you can use my glasses if you need to Hahaha!!!
You're wrong, I don't use glasses, just binoculars! :icon_cheesygrin:
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At the risk of repeating myself, no-one should consider ANY women from this agency. The rot extends higher than the translators. It goes right to the top. And translators writing letters is only part of the scam. They are quite adept and sly at covering their traces. After five months of complaining to Chnlove about my experience in the most diplomatic way, they have finally refused to give me a refund of 45 credits. I feel I got close, but no cigar. (They had earlier refunded 6 credits as a goodwill gesture!) Chnlove knew it was a scam, but P216 agency are very clever at their Chinese sting. I was bitten and survived.
I would advise guys not even to look at the pretty pictures. If I want a cheap thrill, I would be reading that the Changsha Love Bridge Agency staff are all in jail for fraud.
Yeah, I got 6 credits back from Chnlove after being cheated on by the Changsha Love Bridge Company as well (or, rather, by the lady and the interpreter). After 3-4 months of EMF correspondence, that is a drop in the sea, of course.
It's funny, but the Changsha blablabla agency does have really gorgeous ladies. I can fully understand why men are eager to correspond with some of them. I had one bad experience (not close to as bad as many others) and I have stayed away from them ever since.
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When photos like this show up your being played if you write her. I really have trouble not understanding why men of a older age group then the girls can't get it through their head there's always a reason? If some 20 yr old writes a 50 + yr old? 99.9999999999999 percent your going to get ripped off.
There is no way in hell the photographer, the agency, the translator and whoever else is involved in the profile and pictures didn't notice being able to see "the money pot".
In a way I thank her it made my day. :icon_cool: but for the guys checking for a partner? will write her "maybe" she is real. The only real to it is your money gone missing.
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Come on you guys maybe it was just a mistake.Maybe the girl or the photgrapher didn't see that.
Just messing with you all.That one does look like trouble.
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But she may well get hundreds of EMF's from the poor sods who dont know about this Forum....she probably wont get any letters from us !!!
I dont think Changsha Agency gives a damm what we think, there are many, many other Men who would give it a go.....just because of a glimpse of black undies...........and the money rolls in !!!!.........it would be laughable if it wasnt such a scam............something has got to be done about this....but what ?????.....it is pathetic !!!
DavidE
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Looking at that made me go back to look again at Keren's photo's in her profile...NOT quite as bad, so I'm more than happy...:icon_biggrin:
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David maybe a note to customer care?maybe someone should post on the official forum.What we all think.I doubt if eather one of theese suggestions would get through.But you never know.
I beleave this women is a plant.But what if we are wrong?There is always a chance of that.And we have just black listed some women for being a little to reaveling
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David maybe a note to customer care?maybe someone should post on the official forum.What we all think.I doubt if eather one of theese suggestions would get through.But you never know.
I beleave this women is a plant.But what if we are wrong?There is always a chance of that.And we have just black listed some women for being a little to reaveling
Yes Maxx, of course you are right...it is our asssumption that this woman is a fraud...we have no proof, so it is not ethical to pursue it...but I think we know the truth, dont we ?
Writing to CHNLove or the Agency without proof is pointless, they wouldnt care anyway.
So we just have to gnash our teeth and grin and bear it...at least the Bros wont get involved and possibly conned .
DavidE
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True enough David.We do know the truth.And by posting it here.Maybe we did save some poor guy some heart ache.
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I volunteer to go there and check it... I mean her out! :icon_cheesygrin:
Not really, I'm quite happy with who I have. :icon_cool:
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True enough David.We do know the truth.And by posting it here.Maybe we did save some poor guy some heart ache.
Yep....thats about the best we can do !!!
DavidE
I volunteer to go there and check it... I mean her out! :icon_cheesygrin:
Not really, I'm quite happy with who I have. :icon_cool:
Why bother Shaun....once you get past the black undies....you wont find anything different :icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
However, if you are in Thailand...it could be a different story...you never know what is under the black undies !!!!!!
DavidE
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DavidE,
Man you crack me up.
Shaun
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David E,
You don't mean the dreaded..........Meat and two veggies do YOU!!!!
David.....
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David5o,
I don't think he was talking about tacos.
Shaun
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The thumbnail I posted was of a revue in Phuket called "Simons", it is very famous for the quality of its Ladies....all of which are stunningly beautiful.....but they are all Men !!!!!!! The revue itself is quite magnificent and you can get photos after, with yourself and any of the "ladies".........I have such photos...but not going to let you lot see them :icon_cool::icon_cool:.........very scary
DavidE
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Of course a mistake could have been made. BUT being from a well known "fishy" agency I don't think it was a mistake. These photos are looked over and photoshopped before being posted. No way it got missed.
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However, if you are in Thailand...it could be a different story...you never know what is under the black undies !!!!!!
DavidE
Usually something beautiful and shaved I would say. :icon_biggrin:
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Something fishy? Well there is a girl called Fish on chnlove (and a very beautiful one she is too!).
When I was a chnlove newbie I spoke to Cassie and Tina at changsha love bridge. Both are lovely, but Tina said she went drifting with her friends, so I went right off her after that. Cassie was lovely but she looked a bit of a maneater in one of her photos so I couldn't be sure about her.
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Just received an admirer mail from this little girl, 29 years old, (P216NNN) Changsha Love Bridge Company of course, and I'm wondering if I look like a sugar daddy in my profile photo :huh:
I'm going to ask to one lady I'm writing to, that sends to me the photo she sees in my profile. I've received several admirer letters talking about my wonderful smile and I can assure in the one I upload there's no smile at all. Have them photoshoped me????
P.D. I hid the last 3 numbers as I don't know if it's for real or not. May be I'm so sexy all those ladies in her 20s has decided to write to me! :icon_cheesygrin:
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Just received an admirer mail from this little girl, 29 years old, (P216NNN) Changsha Love Bridge Company of course, and I'm wondering if I look like a sugar daddy in my profile photo :huh:
I'm going to ask to one lady I'm writing to, that sends to me the photo she sees in my profile. I've received several admirer letters talking about my wonderful smile and I can assure in the one I upload there's no smile at all. Have them photoshoped me????
P.D. I hid the last 3 numbers as I don't know if it's for real or not. May be I'm so sexy all those ladies in her 20s has decided to write to me! :icon_cheesygrin:
Probably my fault Manuel. I can remember telling a girl here once that some of the Spanish antiquities were worth a lot of money. I think my words were lost in translation and she and her friends are looking for that rich Spanish antique!!!!! :icon_cheesygrin:
Willy
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Does anybody have anything good to say about this agency? I know some of you might have got burn by this agency, my questions are how did you got burn by it? how did you find out the woman you’re supposedly writing to is the translator? I’ve been writing to a very hot looking girl from this agency for about two months now, so for I got no reason to believe she’s not real, when I say she meaning it could be the girl I think I’m writing to and or the translator so far she’s keeping her story straight, never has she call me by the wrong name, she remember my kids names, remember everything we talk about, I know she can always go back and read my letters to refresh her mind but 40 plus letters are a lot to go thru, and if she’s writing to me and other blokes to generate revenue for her and the agency it takes a lot of time, I’m looking to hit a home run, if she’s real it’s a homer, if not oh well, I’m out a few hundred bucks for emf and some of my time. Oh this is the fourth woman I’m writing to, she’s so good to write to, I mean I can write like 1000 words letter to her without problem, the other women I’m lost for words after about 300, maybe I’m in love with the translator, hehe. Thanks for letting me get this off my chest.
Robin
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No worries Robin, just keep your eyes and mind wide open, look at every thing that is written and then maybe, just maybe you will find one there that is real and even so you still have to watch for when the translator is doing the writing and not your girl
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Hi Robin,
the girl I was writing to was a translator called Irene. She wrote the most beautiful and poetic letters. She always answered my questions, and when she described the dream she had about us, I was blown away. We discussed in detail what we would do when I was there, the attitude of her family, Chinese customs, the whole shebang. I was given no reason to be suspicious over 51 EMFs, except a slight impression that it was too good to be true. I really believe she could have a career as a romantic novelist. But instead, she writes letters to earn money for her agency and lures unlucky suckers like me to China.
On arrival, the whole affair collapsed almost immediately. The lady I thought I had been writing to could not answer any of my questions, obviously knew nothing about the content of the letters, was too busy to spend any time with me apart from two meals, and came up with the farce of an excuse for us not working about her sister being worried that because I am bald that we would create bald children. This after she had categorically asserted that all of her family had seen my photos months before and were happy to meet me. Then Irene and the agency boss produced their obviously well-practised spiel that they had plenty of other ladies I might like to meet and would I like to sign this form to say I was happy with the translation service.
My biggest mistake was not pressing enough for direct contact, webcam, QQ, etc. All I had was one real photo. So, I escaped, not too damaged, but wiser and I found a good agency and lady.
I am not the only one to have been through a similar experience with this agency. If you do go ahead with it, go for direct contact, don't sign anything when you go, take a good luck charm, keep your eyes open and have a plan B if it doesn't work out.
All the best, Alex
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(Saturday, September 12th, 2009 02:40 AM)David E Wrote:
However, if you are in Thailand...it could be a different story...you never know what is under the black undies !!!!!!
DavidE
Hans Wrote
Usually something beautiful and shaved I would say.
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Hans,
If you think a Guy's meat and two veg is ''something beautiful and shaved'' ... I think your on the wrong Forum Mate!! .....hahaha!!
David.....
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David........ROFLMAO:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
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(Saturday, September 12th, 2009 02:40 AM)David E Wrote:
However, if you are in Thailand...it could be a different story...you never know what is under the black undies !!!!!!
DavidE
Hans Wrote
Usually something beautiful and shaved I would say.
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Hans,
If you think a Guy's meat and two veg is ''something beautiful and shaved'' ... I think your on the wrong Forum Mate!! .....hahaha!!
David.....
I'll drink to that !!!!....hahaha
DavidE
Hi Robin,
the girl I was writing to was a translator called Irene. She wrote the most beautiful and poetic letters. She always answered my questions, and when she described the dream she had about us, I was blown away.
Robin
My experience with this Agency was an EXACT copy of the one described by Alex...only the translator was named Sara. and the Lady "had been called out of town for sick relative" !!!!!!
I had 20 minutes in private with the Agency boss...and he learned many, many new Australian profanities !!!! My huge temptation was to give him a real walloping...but I didn't want to end up in a Chinese Prison for 20 years :s:s
I wrote numerous complaint letters to CHNLove, Interpol, The Aus Immigration Dept. and everyone I could think of...but nobody interested of course.
BE VERY CAREFUL...but dont give up :icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
DavidE
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Probably my fault Manuel. I can remember telling a girl here once that some of the Spanish antiquities were worth a lot of money. I think my words were lost in translation and she and her friends are looking for that rich Spanish antique!!!!! :icon_cheesygrin:
Willy
Be careful, I have friends in Zhuhai's Triads! :icon_biggrin:
Does anybody have anything good to say about this agency? I know some of you might have got burn by this agency, my questions are how did you got burn by it? how did you find out the woman you’re supposedly writing to is the translator?
No idea if it's a scam in my case, but receiving an admirer letter from a sexy 29 years old lady and when looking on the mirror I don't see Brad Pitt, just a 58 years old, skin and bones, bald guy makes me think! :icon_cheesygrin:
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I exchanged EMFs with a couple of the girls. But I didn't get to the natural photos stage. I seemed to be burning through EMFs but never actually found out much about the girls. To be fair though, one was a factory worker so didn't have much Internet access available.
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Hans,
If you think a Guy's meat and two veg is ''something beautiful and shaved'' ... I think your on the wrong Forum Mate!! .....hahaha!!
David.....
If you can't see the difference between girls and ladyboys in Thailand (when you've gotten as far as to your hotel), you are either too drunk or blind. Or maybe both.
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Hans,
If you think a Guy's meat and two veg is ''something beautiful and shaved'' ... I think your on the wrong Forum Mate!! .....hahaha!!
David.....
If you can't see the difference between girls and ladyboys in Thailand (when you've gotten as far as to your hotel), you are either too drunk or blind. Or maybe both.
Hans,
I'd like a $ for every-time a man has said the self same thing you have!! I'd be a very rich man now!! ...hahaha!!
The truth is, that some are obvious, some are not so obvious, and some can, and do fool the most diligent of straight men.
I've actually been to some bars in Thailand (Bangkok), with friends and girlfriends (Thai) that were themselves fooled by ladyboys. None of us had the slightest idea that they were ladyboys until the owner had told us so.
Oh, and i don't ever drink enough booze to get drunk, and my eyesight maybe going downhill but not too that extent...lol!!
DavidE has much more experience of Thailand than i, so perhaps he can add he's 10cents worth, 2 cents is so cheap these days!!
hahaha!!
David.....
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In 1984 wile I was in the middle of running the Glasgow marathon, I was running behind this 'female' dressed only in Black bra, panties and suspenders and lovely long black hair.:icon_cheesygrin: And I thought wow what a body, I would definetely throw that a length !!!:icon_cheesygrin: Once I got upsides of her, it turned out to be a guy with a beard and moustache... Needless to say I sprinted away as fast as my little legs would carry me...Totally embaressed:blush:
Guy's as God is my judge....THIS is the truth
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ROFLMAO, Rob you kill me
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About Thailand !!!:
I have had many, many visits to Thailand...some Business, some pleasure.
My first visit to the "Simons Revue" was an eye-opener, the Thai guys who took me there "forgot" to tell me that every one of the 132 performers was a woman !!!
So there we are, in the front row "executive" seats, and me goggling at these incredible, delicate and very, very beautiful Women !!
one of my hosts said that I could meet with some of the cast after the show if I was interested......was I ever !!!
So we went backstage and met a few of them....and then I learned the truth !!!....that to some extent or the other, they were al Men...what a disappointment.
It seems that the higher up the pecking order you are as a Thai transvestite depends on the extent of your "conversion" to a female.
Most go down the Chemical/hormone/breast implant route and stop there, but the absolute dolls, the best lookers have had the "full" conversion and I am told...(note here, NOT from personal experience)...that you would never know if you got into the sack with one of them, they are THAT complete.
So once again I repeat...you never know what is under the undies in a Thai "woman" Hahahaha
DavidE
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Thank you gentlemen for sharing you experience and thought on this agency, and ideas. Again when I say she it could be my girl (I hope) and or translator, my girl and the translator supposedly has developed a friendship, she said she use the same translator, I don’t want to publish the translator’s name, it’s not Irene or Sara but heck what do I really know all these translator could be the same person. Haha, anyway she sends me a ton of her natural pictures, some with her friends without me even asking for it, and a ton of studio pictures too that were not in her profile, maybe I’ve exaggerate a little here, in contrast I sent her 3 of my pictures, but I got a lot of her photos, as for direct contact I’m not in a hurry, maybe I am playing right into the hand of that agency, I like the way things are going right now, heck it only cost $3.9 US each for sending a letter, and read her replies, that’s nothing compared to what I blow on other stuff, I will definitely ask for web cam session before I go and visit her, I will have a plan B, plan C, when I go, I been to China twice already this year, specifically Zhuhai. Changsha is only about 1 and ½ hour away from Zhuhai, if things don’t work out the way I wanted to I can always run to Zhuhai, Zhuhai is wild man, some of the guys been there can back me up on this one, but my girl said Changsha is pretty wild too, she said there’s a lot of unhealthy entertainment for men there, hehe that’s my kind of entertainment she also said she will never let me out of her site because of unhealthy entertainment, if it there I’ll find it. it’s not to say I’m a player here, of course I’ll be the gentle man first, but if things don’t work out the way I wanted to watch out china, here’s rhood, I will not go home unsatisfied. Hehe, oh I’m 48 and she’s 24, what a cradle robber I am huh? Hehe.
robin
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The truth is, that some are obvious, some are not so obvious, and some can, and do fool the most diligent of straight men.
I've actually been to some bars in Thailand (Bangkok), with friends and girlfriends (Thai) that were themselves fooled by ladyboys. None of us had the slightest idea that they were ladyboys until the owner had told us so.
Oh, and i don't ever drink enough booze to get drunk, and my eyesight maybe going downhill but not too that extent...lol!!
David.....
Yes, I know there are some really stunning looking ladyboys. But there are usually some hints to look for (the obvious parts are the hips and the hands). My point was to not exaggerate the risk of walking home with a ladyboy. I'm sure there are stories like this, but I would think that most of them have themselves to blame (too much to drink). I myself have never had any problems and I've talked to regulars who come to Thailand at least once a year and they don't seem to have any problems spotting a LB either. Just keep your eyes open. :icon_cool:
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lol, how did we end up here
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Well, to sum up, all the lovely ladies at this agency are, in fact ladyboys. It's almost impossible to tell from the pictures, especially since they have had all their parts photoshopped. The CLBA agency actually stands for the Changsha Lady Boys Agency. I certainly couldn't find a love bridge, and I really looked.:icon_cheesygrin:
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hahahaha, that wouldn't surprise me :P
I'm glad I stayed away from that agency
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Well, to sum up, all the lovely ladies at this agency are, in fact ladyboys. It's almost impossible to tell from the pictures, especially since they have had all their parts photoshopped. The CLBA agency actually stands for the Changsha Lady Boys Agency. I certainly couldn't find a love bridge, and I really looked.:icon_cheesygrin:
Yep, that pretty much sums it up!
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David E,
Why didn't you tell us about CLBA? I mean a brother needs to know!
Shaun
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Has anyone actually met a lady from CLBA? Do they have real ones on the books?
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David E,
Why didn't you tell us about CLBA? I mean a brother needs to know!
Shaun
Thought you could all get a nice surprise ....:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
DavidE
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DAVIDE...YOU are WICKED....LOL
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DAVIDE...YOU are WICKED....LOL
Isn't he though. Just when I though he was a friend. lol
The scene from Mrs. Doubtfire where she aka Robin Williams says, "you wicked wicked boy," just came to mind.
Shaun
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AWWWW...c'mon Guys...all this heavy stuff, chasing true love and eternal bliss in China is exhausting...you all need a bit of light relief with a nice Lady Boy....its all so much easier and hassle free...thought I was doing you a favour:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
DavidE
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Its just a Mad, mad,mad, mad, mad world out there, Rob and Shaun cuddling with two pretty Lady......boys.
Hahahahahahahahahaha
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MLM....ROFLMAO...you bad lol:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
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Heres my 02C worth.
A while back I was talking to a very attractive lady on AsiaEuro -(attractive until I learned about the amazing powers of photoshop - and I've posted about that:icon_biggrin:).
She discovered I had a house and instantly was making arrangements about our wedding. In further conversation I discovered she lived on floor 17 of a tower block in a rented apartment, and in further investigation found her simultaneously advertising herself as single and available on another website. Figured she must have been one of those 'highest bidder/bedder' girls, and so backed out. But Lo and behold, she appeared on CHnLove about a year later. I wrote a post on the matter to the ChnLove forums, but this was blocked. ( Thought it might help a brother some unneccessary anguish :idea:). Finally I have heard back from her via her old EMAIL. She is married to someone in USA - he loves her, she loves him. My deduction is that either ChnLove or the agency (P566159) - more likely the latter - is posting her profile AND sending out admirer letters, in the hope of more EMF income, without reference to her
Further to that, two ladies I have corresponded via EMF have supplied EMAIL addressess so I can talk to them directly - quite within ChnLove rules. However EMAILS I have sent there vanished into Black Holes, and one of the ladies claims she has received nothing.
I am wondering if the agency or its translator sets up a dummy account on GMAIL or whatever, and intercepts the EMAILS, just to generate more EMF income.
But its not all bad news - I have found a lady who seems sincere, visited her and passed the family scrutiny test, and now am having the mother of all battles with Immigration NZ to get her a 2 months visitors visa, so she can see how she likes NZ and how she likes me :-)
Moral: CARPE DIEM
David K in Auckland
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Heres my 02C worth.
A while back I was talking to a very attractive lady on AsiaEuro -(attractive until I learned about the amazing powers of photoshop - and I've posted about that:icon_biggrin:).
She discovered I had a house and instantly was making arrangements about our wedding. In further conversation I discovered she lived on floor 17 of a tower block in a rented apartment, and in further investigation found her simultaneously advertising herself as single and available on another website. Figured she must have been one of those 'highest bidder/bedder' girls, and so backed out. But Lo and behold, she appeared on CHnLove about a year later. I wrote a post on the matter to the ChnLove forums, but this was blocked. ( Thought it might help a brother some unneccessary anguish :idea:). Finally I have heard back from her via her old EMAIL. She is married to someone in USA - he loves her, she loves him. My deduction is that either ChnLove or the agency (P566159) - more likely the latter - is posting her profile AND sending out admirer letters, in the hope of more EMF income, without reference to her
Further to that, two ladies I have corresponded via EMF have supplied EMAIL addressess so I can talk to them directly - quite within ChnLove rules. However EMAILS I have sent there vanished into Black Holes, and one of the ladies claims she has received nothing.
I am wondering if the agency or its translator sets up a dummy account on GMAIL or whatever, and intercepts the EMAILS, just to generate more EMF income.
But its not all bad news - I have found a lady who seems sincere, visited her and passed the family scrutiny test, and now am having the mother of all battles with Immigration NZ to get her a 2 months visitors visa, so she can see how she likes NZ and how she likes me :-)
Moral: CARPE DIEM
David K in Auckland
HI David
Seems that P566159 has been pulled off the site. Could well be that your query made CHNLove go and check it all out...so probalilities are that they pulled the profile and it was likely the Agency was the problem, ?
We have some evidence here that certain Agencies sail very close to the wind with truth about Ladies, correspondence, EMF's etc !
As for private email addresses, I think you will find through some of the postings here, they are usually not truly private, they still track through the Agencies...its just one small step past CHNLove and of course, the next step should be personal contact through QQ or similar. At that stage, a great deal of the uncertainty gets removed !!
Happy to know you have found a likely Lady...not all Ladies on CHNLove are out to scam us...There are many, many lovelies there...in fact I would be sure in my mind, that scammers and crook Agencies are in a minority...but then again............ ??????????????
I dont know how your Immigration Laws compare to ours, but here we would have ZERO chance of getting a Tourist Visa for a single, unattached lady from anywhere !!!
However, if we make an application for a fiance visa, than a 3 month Tourist Visa is immediately granted, even before the visa is processed.
DavidE
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Hi David E
The agency is P566, and apparently still there.
As to Immigration laws, NZs would have to be a strict as anywhere, but with good underlying reason - we are a small country of a bit over 4 million people, and in fact facing a deluge of would be immigrants who want to stay - approx 17,000 overstayers at present. There have been all sorts of scams by absolutely determined people - offers of arranged marriage for $20K @ Auckland airport for example. But having said that, dealing with overseas offices of the Immigration department is a horror story.... if you are from China you are basically treated as a potential criminal no matter what. However, things are looking better now that I have the famliy lawyer on the case :-) I'll keep you posted David K
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I'd be very interested in how things turn out Dave ... I may even have to borrow your lawyer if he does well :P
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David K,
This lady sounds like one I was chatting with on another site when I first started looking for a Chinese woman. She was, I hate so say the word but, crazy. I told her to stop and that she was not the woman for me. The her true craziness came out so I blocked her. It is a shame they pulled the person off this site before I got a chance to see her. I thought for sure this was the same one.
Shaun
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I think we have all at one time or another have run into a few crazies, Thank God those days are over for me.
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have they mate...???
Go on make my day !!!:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin::angel:
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This could be one of those...scam, scam, scam complainers from other sites like phishy...who knows!
Jim, I know. :icon_biggrin: I know the guy and he was here as well, and had been banned. Every time I read the story it changes. He leaves or adds things in so I believe none of it ever happen. And yes he is a Pfishy.
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Hey DavidE you might like her looks! LOL just kidding, bro!
Jim
Naaah !!...not my style...I prefer them younger...about 25 ish...it must be the Ferrari and the 60 ft Sundancer...gets them in every time !!!
DavidE
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My lady took us to a posh restaurant called KFC, that's why I know I am unlikely to get scammed by her!
On the other hand she did order 3 main courses and polished off the lot :huh:.
It is difficult to know if these agency complaints are genuine though, there is some terrible mudslinging between the different Asian dating sites and I guess if they were UK companies then there would be some serious libel lawsuits flying around.
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I meet and married a girl Pei Xiaoying in Changsha, China from that agency.... She is back on ChnLove her profile # P216020 She has new and even sexier pictures....
I am as shallow as the next guy . . . but I cannot imagine anyone writing to someone who has pictures like that on their profile. Surely when you see a picture like that, it's like she's Roxanne and she's turned on her red light. Or am I missing something? If anyone wrote to this person you'd just have to wonder what's going on upstairs . . . *laughs*
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Pah! Get this ugly woman off the site.
Seriously, when I was in my chnlove newbie week I was like a kid in a candy store, and obviously I found myself EMFing a few girls from Changsha Love Bridge. Remember talking to two sweeties - Cassie and Tina. I've heard rumours that Cassie is the name of one of the translators, so perhaps she was a scammer. Tina was lovely and I think she is genuine although I never got to see any real photos and after she told me she went out drifting with her friends (?) I never contacted her again.
I could well believe that there are some seriously good looking women in Changsha, that would be down to the Sichuan influence that was so apparent in nearby Yichang :fi_lone_ranger:.
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Pah, perhaps I've been scammed? Or perhaps Cassie 2 wanted an English name and liked the sound of 1.
Is your wife from Changsha? If so she might have Sichuan ancestry. If the Changsha dialect sounds like Swedish (lots of strong "r's" ) then that will be down to a form of the Sichuan dialect. People of Sichuan origin like the spicy food, so I feel sorry for your butt. All this is from my lady, so forgive me if it's total rubbish :icon_cheesygrin:.
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"The lady has received quite a few Cupid Notes from other gentlemen for the last 48 hours. A cupid note is only a short message for you to find out whether the lady is interested in you, but a personalized message will give the lady a much more terrific impression. For better chances to receive a positive response, we suggest you:" GET IN A LINE. Dreamers on the right, Suckers on the left.
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"and the EMF's keep rollin' in...rollin' in...rollin in' "
Maybe some "stud" should write a letter and say.."stuff the EMF's...lets cut to the chase...how much for a quickie " !!!!!!!:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
But Guys, lets be fair here...probably she is a sweet, wholesome, delectable, intelligent, sensitive, attractive and serious woman who is very lonely and who looks for a genuine Man to have a serious relationship, get married and live happily ever after....whaddya think ??
David
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I'll be in Changsha, to meet my dream girl, or maybe I'm just dreaming, on nov 21st. in case what I've been reading about P216 is true, the song and dance about (the woman I'm suppose to meet has an emergency and have to leave town but we have a ton of other woman I may want to meet) blah blah blah, i'll tell them I want to meet her and a few hotties from that agency. I'll check it out for you guys.
Mr annoyomous.
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Here we go!
Looking through the ladies photos like I always do. One of these new ones, as soon as I opened the profile I knew it was a fake one. Just by the first photo. Then seeing where it came from. So I strolled through the photos and then at number 6 was a complete halt. There's no way nobody didn't notice this?
Profile ID: P216546 from Changsha/HuNan 6th picture
I hope this isn't anyones girl? Your writing to the translators.
Hey Vince...did you notice this ladies first name? Aroma...LOL...is this a sign of stink? Maybe something fishy around there! :icon_cheesygrin: Does anybody have a direct link to this agencies own website? I know the Wuhan agency(509) is eastloving.com...just curious guys!
abigbutt,
thank you very much, mate, the website is useful, I think I might go for them, because I understand Chinese...haha.
Dan
Hi Robin,
the girl I was writing to was a translator called Irene. She wrote the most beautiful and poetic letters. She always answered my questions, and when she described the dream she had about us, I was blown away. We discussed in detail what we would do when I was there, the attitude of her family, Chinese customs, the whole shebang. I was given no reason to be suspicious over 51 EMFs, except a slight impression that it was too good to be true. I really believe she could have a career as a romantic novelist. But instead, she writes letters to earn money for her agency and lures unlucky suckers like me to China.
On arrival, the whole affair collapsed almost immediately. The lady I thought I had been writing to could not answer any of my questions, obviously knew nothing about the content of the letters, was too busy to spend any time with me apart from two meals, and came up with the farce of an excuse for us not working about her sister being worried that because I am bald that we would create bald children. This after she had categorically asserted that all of her family had seen my photos months before and were happy to meet me. Then Irene and the agency boss produced their obviously well-practised spiel that they had plenty of other ladies I might like to meet and would I like to sign this form to say I was happy with the translation service.
My biggest mistake was not pressing enough for direct contact, webcam, QQ, etc. All I had was one real photo. So, I escaped, not too damaged, but wiser and I found a good agency and lady.
I am not the only one to have been through a similar experience with this agency. If you do go ahead with it, go for direct contact, don't sign anything when you go, take a good luck charm, keep your eyes open and have a plan B if it doesn't work out.
All the best, Alex
Mate, it was a story in hell...I surely understand your strangled feeling.
(Saturday, September 12th, 2009 02:40 AM)David E Wrote:
However, if you are in Thailand...it could be a different story...you never know what is under the black undies !!!!!!
DavidE
Hans Wrote
Usually something beautiful and shaved I would say.
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Hans,
If you think a Guy's meat and two veg is ''something beautiful and shaved'' ... I think your on the wrong Forum Mate!! .....hahaha!!
David.....
I'll drink to that !!!!....hahaha
DavidE
Hi Robin,
the girl I was writing to was a translator called Irene. She wrote the most beautiful and poetic letters. She always answered my questions, and when she described the dream she had about us, I was blown away.
Robin
My experience with this Agency was an EXACT copy of the one described by Alex...only the translator was named Sara. and the Lady "had been called out of town for sick relative" !!!!!!
I had 20 minutes in private with the Agency boss...and he learned many, many new Australian profanities !!!! My huge temptation was to give him a real walloping...but I didn't want to end up in a Chinese Prison for 20 years :s:s
I wrote numerous complaint letters to CHNLove, Interpol, The Aus Immigration Dept. and everyone I could think of...but nobody interested of course.
BE VERY CAREFUL...but dont give up :icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
DavidE
I feel that I am damn wise and lucky reading your guys notes, what a blow! I am lucky that I have only started communicating with 'a lady' or two, thank god, I think I will shut the mom fuck flooding gate!
Thank you gentlemen for sharing you experience and thought on this agency, and ideas. Again when I say she it could be my girl (I hope) and or translator, ......
robin
Prepare you pocket before you go, mate!:icon_cheesygrin:
I found this interesting post on a forum from, travelchinaguide. Here is link: http://community.travelchinaguide.com/forum2.asp?i=39206&page=9 I post this here because we all know about this agency and their tactics! Anyways, there is a post here that reads:
Yes, chinese marriage agency to meet foreigners charge the women a lot of money for their services 10000 to 50000 RMB and most women don't pay all the money up front. That's the way it works here in China guys... The marriage agency that introduces Chinese to Chinese also charges money. And if a woman is beautiful, and she meets a rich husband, she may have to pay more... a lot more! Marriage is important here, it may be more important than love, there are over 1.3 billion people and Chinese men and women are willing to pay to find the best and highest quality spouse they can. That being said, there are a lot of unscrupulous people Men and Women also marriage agencies. ChnLove is not good at keeping check over the agencies in their circle of influence. They also let many women on their site that are just there looking for a foreigner with a deep wallet! I was told by an ex translator for Changsha Love Bridge Company that the owner there teaches the women how to extort as much money as possible from the foreign men they are introduced to. I meet and married a girl Pei Xiaoying in Changsha, China from that agency, and once I told her she was spending too much money it was over between us... she divorced me that same week! She is back on ChnLove her profile # P216020 She has new and even sexier pictures. Guys if the woman's pictures are really sexy she is fishing hard for a man with money... a good Chinese girl would never have pictures of her breast half exposed and her underpants showing. If the picture says sex they also say money! Before warned ! ! !
I looked the profile up and she is currently on chnlove! I only post this, because I hate to see anyone spending money on a scam! Yes, she looks very sexy! hahaha!!! Hey DavidE you might like her looks! LOL just kidding, bro!
Jim
P.S. This could be one of those...scam, scam, scam complainers from other sites like phishy...who knows!
Profile # P216020 has been removed from the site, mate, do you mean someone else?
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Rhoodtsao,
This agency has a bad reputation, but that doesn't meant your lady is a scam. I would recommend the following to get some relief and eventually find out one way or another...
(1) I hope you have already requested real, natural pictures by now, and not only gotten professional ones. That's a must, and make sure they are ordinary pictures, and not too nice looking. Sometimes they say they are natural and are not. You have to be the judge of that.
(2) Next, you need to get off of EMF letters if you're still on them. From reading other guy's posts here for quite a while, I have learned that you need to develop a relationship with the translator, and you can do that in two ways...either through your EMF letters directly, or by writing a note to the translator when you rate the EMF letter your lady sends you...that is how I do it, and I talk to them very politely and compliment them as much as possible, and then give them my email address, and ask them to send me a note so I can write back if I have a question. I just started doing this, and a couple so far have responded, and now I have a way to directly communicate with the translator. From there, you can ask the translator to use the personal email account that each lady has with the agency, and not use EMF letters any more...if you have done as many as you say, the translator should easily give you this benefit by this time. Then it doesn't cost you any more money, but the agency is still doing the translating.
(3) Now, you need to talk about calling her on the phone. This isn't a guarantee you'll talk to the lady you're writing, but after talking you may be able to tell based on things said. If she's no good at English yet, just ask for a short call, to hear voices, and maybe say a few words in English and Chinese, taking turns. If they are not willing to do it after the time you have spent writing, that would be a red danger sign to me. It is also possible that she is not allowed direct contact yet, as some agencies require separate fees for levels of service. They will give you any excuse in the book except tell you the truth, if that's the case. I would give them a month to give her phone number, after several polite requests...
(4) Ask the lady herself for an email address. Again, this might not be doable if her English is terrible, or she is not willing to write you in Chinese and then you can use a computer translator program to convert. They aren't that great, and there's a lot of bad translation potential, though.
(5) Ask the translator and/or the lady to do a webcam, either at the agency and you are willing to pay, usually 2 EMF credits is your cost for an hour, with a translator there to help, or she can do it someplace else that has the ability, such as an Internet Cafe, many in China, or if she has a computer or a friend of hers does...QQ is a very popular program in China and you can install it very easily...I did and it's similar to Skype and the other. You've been talking for two months, and I would estimate if you start asking and she resists, give it one more month of gentle prodding and requests. Don't buy the answer that the agency doesn't have this...in fact, head that one off the first time you request it by saying that YOU KNOW FROM ANOTHER MAN WHO WAS AT THE AGENCY THAT THEY HAVE THIS SERVICE...it was posted on this thread earlier, if you read it, I believe. Don't let them use an easy excuse.
If you get negative responses from all of the above, I think they wasted your time. However, if she is genuine, you should be able to get off of EMF's (absolutely!!!) and make a phone call and web cam chat in the next month or so...
Here's hoping you have a genuine one!!!
(I'd still hate to have to visit that agency, though, and would be very careful of the people that work there). I don't have any personal experience with them, just going by other posts in the past few months.
Scott
Scott this is really good stuff.
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Scott check this thread out http://www.chnlove.info/showthread.php?tid=1405
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I have to say looking at the newest woman photos coming from the Changsha Love Bridge Co? These women seem to look more like puttana's (Italian) then anything else. What are they doing signing up the local red light district?
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Here we go!
Looking through the ladies photos like I always do. One of these new ones, as soon as I opened the profile I knew it was a fake one. Just by the first photo. Then seeing where it came from. So I strolled through the photos and then at number 6 was a complete halt. There's no way nobody didn't notice this?
Profile ID: P216546 from Changsha/HuNan 6th picture
I hope this isn't anyones girl? Your writing to the translators.
Vince,
Just as an aside, I DID WRITE to this cutie, knowing full well the reputation of this agency, and that the photos are photoshopped to death. I got a direct email address and apparently 2 genuine untampered photos from the gal. No, she looks nowhere nearly as hot, but for real. I have not yet written direct to her, but just to set the record straight. I still think the agency is scammy, but this girl, I think she is genuine, I suspect the "money shot" is not even her, just a cut & paste. I will write her after I come back from Chinese new year holidays.
I really have trouble not understanding why men of a older age group then the girls can't get it through their head there's always a reason? If some 20 yr old writes a 50 + yr old? 99.9999999999999 percent your going to get ripped off.
Vince, it is a sad but true fact that when we older men see pics like that, we get it through our head....the wrong head ! lool :icon_cheesygrin:
Something fishy? Well there is a girl called Fish on chnlove (and a very beautiful one she is too!).
When I was a chnlove newbie I spoke to Cassie and Tina at changsha love bridge. Both are lovely, but Tina said she went drifting with her friends, so I went right off her after that. Cassie was lovely but she looked a bit of a maneater in one of her photos so I couldn't be sure about her.
Haha Brett, you like swimming with the piranhas eh?:icon_cheesygrin:
However, if you are in Thailand...it could be a different story...you never know what is under the black undies !!!!!!
DavidE
Usually something beautiful and shaved I would say. :icon_biggrin:
Nope it's DICK Tracy, but then you really don't wanna know :icon_cheesygrin:
and came up with the farce of an excuse for us not working about her sister being worried that because I am bald that we would create bald children.
Geez... they ALL come out bald !
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007 so you're getting out of town just in time too
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007 so you're getting out of town just in time too
Oh jeff, the usual, am getting back to my little island hometown, but will give the crowd a miss & do it Monday instead. I actually miss the food more than the gals, looolz. So meanwhile I will spend the early part of it here in Singapore.
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007,
You don't miss all the visiting and eating and eating and eating? :icon_cheesygrin: You'll miss your fill of "yee sang" (fish salad) and pohpiah (Type of Singaporean burrito) and "ngor-hiong" (can't even describe this one) and hokkien mee (noodles) and "hae mee" (more noodles) and laksa (noodles in a sauce) and steamboat and so on and so forth? :icon_cheesygrin:
I would think staying out of Chinatown should be enough...Any hideaway you could flee to would be full of people... :huh:
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007,
You don't miss all the visiting and eating and eating and eating? :icon_cheesygrin: You'll miss your fill of "yee sang" (fish salad) and pohpiah (Type of Singaporean burrito) and "ngor-hiong" (can't even describe this one) and hokkien mee (noodles) and "hae mee" (more noodles) and laksa (noodles in a sauce) and steamboat and so on and so forth? :icon_cheesygrin:
I would think staying out of Chinatown should be enough...Any hideaway you could flee to would be full of people... :huh:
Haha, u MUST be Singaporean or Malaysian right? No, I don't miss all that stuff, I get all that anytime 365days xcept the 3 days of CNY. And they're likely overpriced this time of year or most chinese eating places will be closed. So I might as well subsist on non-Chinese food for 2 days before going back home. At least here I have plenty of those, without the gouging. If only you knew the delights of Penang food ahhh :heart: I meant the travelling crowd. Anyway let's face it, most shoppers are FEMALE, so if push comes to shove, I get squashed between some boobs & bums, does it hurt?
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Have relatives in Singapore and gone through the whole routine. :icon_biggrin:
Never actually been to Penang...want to visit, but I'm worried how much I'd be eating there. So you're going back for 8th night?
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Have relatives in Singapore and gone through the whole routine. :icon_biggrin:
Never actually been to Penang...want to visit, but I'm worried how much I'd be eating there. So you're going back for 8th night?
I'd be back by 3rd day, so I will miss the first 3 days when all the makan places will be closed :icon_cheesygrin: From 4th day usually all are open again & raring to make $$$, haha. Perfect ! Yes I will be there til 22nd night. I don't go back much, so stay longer each time. Ah a nice gal is waiting to chat with me on CLL, gtg now :icon_cheesygrin:
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If you have old school relatives in Singapore, I'd be there for 8th night...mine always have big honking fires and a big meal right after.
It's funny that a lot of our members are migrating to CLL. :icon_cheesygrin:
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If you have old school relatives in Singapore, I'd be there for 8th night...mine always have big honking fires and a big meal right after.
It's funny that a lot of our members are migrating to CLL. :icon_cheesygrin:
yes, many bros recommend it. Why not? At least we don't have translators scamming us... serves CHN right I say. I am living in S'pore but hometown Penang, so I usually go back for CNY. Too bad I will miss ya then, when will you be here til?
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I'm not there at the moment. I visit every couple of years. But this year I have to work.
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I've received several a.m.'s from P216. Here is the latest;
hi roy:
So nice to meet you here, do not you think I am sexy and passionate? The weather is getting cold here, how about your place? Hope my letter can warm your heart. Do you like to warm me up by your hot body?
Have you been with any Chinese girls before? I invite you to come here and I would love to show you around my city, may I have the chance to cook for you? I am really good at it, what kinds of work are you interested in? I think we are compatible, what do you think?
Do you long to feel my embrace, to smell my fragrance, to hold my hand? I want to see the world as you see it, to look at things from a fresh point of view.
Feel free to ask me anything and write about anything because you have my entire attention. Please share your information with me, I am seriously looking forward to hear from you here.
After reading this thread, I am now going through my a.m.'s and deleting every girl from this agency. There are way too many nice sounding and nice looking women on the other agencies to even take the least chance on one from P216.
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...most shoppers are FEMALE, so if push comes to shove, I get squashed between some boobs & bums, does it hurt?
Coming from a guy with MUCH experience on this...The answer is no....LOL:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
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Received conformation of what I suspected all along. I used to write to a lady from this agency. Spent 6 months, and about 120 letters from me. I visited this lady in Changsha in october last year. Although she was a nice lady it did not work out because of our communication problems. We do not talk anymore, but a friend of mine still talk with her. She told this friend that she did not read any of my letters and she only knew about me two days before I arrived to China. I feel a bit angry at myself to be taken like this I hope you guys can avoid such of things. Web-cam meeting as soon as possible and hope you can find a lady who speak English a little bit.
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Andy,
Sorry to hear it. It is like flushing money down the toilet only the toilet cannot hurt your feelings by taking advantage of you. Toilets cannot deceive you. Toilets cannot call you their hero. So do not feel bad. It is chnlove.com's full time job to separate you from your hard earned money. I imagine they have strategy sessions with P-216 on how to drag you along without causing you to be suspicious.
Andy the rest of this isn't really for you but for new people coming to this site.
I know I am about to get pounced on by those who have been successful. But what a better ploy. Let a few have success and it will encourage many many others to try but lose. Now before some of you go off I am not accusing you of being a part of what Chnlove.com is doing. You are the lucky ones who managed to find a real one.
To be fair there are other issues that happen too. Most of them caused by the man not understanding the culture and woman he is talking with. I have been at this a little over a year and I am still making bone headed mistakes. But I am real lucky for 2 reasons. 1. I have a great understanding woman and 2. I keep at it until I understand. But it is mostly because I have a great woman and she has a wonderful sister who is here in the US and understands the pitfalls. When something goes wrong she and her husband will walk me through the issues. If it is on Peggy's part and she has had a few blunders too her sister will talk her through it.
I have said it before and I'll continue to say it. Try other sites. Blossoms.com is a great site once you learn how to navigate around the issues. You can find good women who will not sign up with an agency. Then there is China Love Links. I didn't try it but there are those who have and found success.
Also watch for ttwjr32's new agency. He will be on the up and up. After all he is the king of the flowery Hawaiian shirts.
Shaun
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well thanks for the vote of confidence Shaun i am only here thru ninja cloak and i did find the reply button it is at the
bottom of the page but invisible lol!!!! but when i point there with the arrow you can barely see reply. so here i am
posting again and waiting to see if irishman figures a way to get on here in China as i am sure he knows having China
in the name prevents us from getting on here. well i tryed the chnromance today and it still doesnt let you get on so i will
just check in again at a later date to see if i could get on here the regular way as i will not do it thru ninjacloak as it seems to
not be complete or a full version as some things arent in bold but hidden unless you move the cursor around and then see that
it is actually on a box??? well if i disappear because of this it was sure nice being here and my email address is posted in my
profile please write if your coming to china " still the finely dressed ambassador" here in China lol!!!!
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Has anybody had dealings with agency P682 Happy Sea International Marriage Club? There is a woman there that I may want to write to and I am just trying to gather some information before I start. I will check the brotherhood list too.
Ted,
I hope that you don't disappear. :( If you do I have your e-mail and will keep intouch. :D Sometimes these issues take a while to resolve. I am sure that Ronan is working hard on this issue.
Dave C
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Well I just received information from a translator friend of mine that works for Changsha Love Bridge Company, a Chnlove agency, that Pei Xiao Ying or Beauty as she calls herself had found another sucker... a Frenchman. After ripping him off of as much money as she could he came to his senses and dumped her. He told the translator all Beauty wanted was more money, money for this, money for that... or buy me this or buy me that! "ALL BEWARE" ChnLove number P216020
I'm in Changsha, China at this time on business... My information is firsthand....
The Sgt... TexRancherMan
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Tex...Who are you? You are writing in a manner that suggests we know you. I am not doubting your information, just trying to figure out if we know you or not.
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Once again, I am totally bewildered and mystified why ANY Man would send money to a woman he had never met and was only communicating with via the Changsha Love Bridge Agency !!
And when he has had enough....he cries "scam"..."ripoff"...."poor me"
Well I say "serves you right Mr Clown for being so stupid".
If Men NEVER did this, there would NEVER be scammers.
I heard a story last year from a very good and trusted friend...so I know it is true. His 16 years old daughter was talking to a Canadian man on facebook (hate that thing !!) and
she told him her ambition was to visit Paris some day. He next day sent her $10,000 by Western Union for the air fare !!!
Words fail me
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WOW...10 K...that's a lot of money to stupidly part with.
Changsha Love Bridge Agency...the agency we all love to hate. How chnlove keeps them under their umbrella, I will never know. Its an agency like this, that gives chnlove a terrible name with a lot of people.
David E, I also agree with your point. Sending money stupidly, and later calling it a scam is a joke.
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Especially when it's posted everywhere NOT to send money.
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David can I get his facebook ID. I want to take my girls to China this summer, I figure its going to be close to a $10,000 bill. Its worth a shot i think.
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Hahaha Halfpint...
No chance...I already got my 2 girls working on it...maybe I can pay for my next 4 holidays...or if they are REALLY convincing...who knows how far the sucker will go !!!!!
BTW..I assure you that the story is true, I have seen the WU receipt with my own eyes and the Bank Statement where she put the money in the Bank...incredible.
Obviously, Canadian men have a lot more money than the rest of us ????........I cant believe that it is because they have no brains...just lots of money ::) ::) ::)
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Me I would willing pay 10,000 to be 16 again or even 36 willl do!
Anyway every one here knows or should know that every agency on the Chnlove circuit and all those not on it all make their money from the introduction fees that are in fact illegal here. Complain loudly and they will not ask again. But risk losing your women as well.
Men do not seem to care. I am sure that a large number want to be scammed and ripped off just so they can go about moaning about it.
In the short time I was running the agency here with 'you know who' the women were offered all sorts of amounts. And these were offered, not asked for, as every email came to my office before being passed on and there was no inter communication directly between men and women. I stopped then in their tracks. But I know how easy men are willing to dip into their pockets for an attractive face.
Willy
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Willy
That is fascinating information...so much "unsolicited" money in the pot...so to speak.
Well...I am flabbergasted, maybe it is a measure of our modern society that many people believe that money can buy anything nowadays....the ultimate consumer society !!!
But if they want to spend their money in "buying" a young beauty, I suppose it is not any of my business...except they always cry "scam" at the end...as you say, maybe they like the attention, it is their only pleasure in life.
(You can see I am rambling here, because I just noticed that I am 18 posts short of the magic 1000..........when I get there I can take my gold watch and retire gracefully ;D ;D ;D )
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David, retirement is not an option. We'll come hunt you down if you quit posting. The only perc you get here is a couple of weeks after you bring your bride home and then we want to know what is going on.
The gold watch will come from China and will be called some off brand that rhymes with nomex. ;D
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Ha , not into the scam department , but a couple of years ago one of the ladies I was teaching English to via QQ asked me if I was interested in a sham marriage for 40,000 Dollars , I promptly stopped teaching her English , lovely lady at 40 plus as we always used webcam .
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Again I have many stories on this subject. I just don't understand it? If your paying for affection is that satisfaction?
A while back I dated some women that asked me to pay her rent? She had money and made about the same as I did and yet because others before paid it she figured I would too. To put it nicely I never paid for affection.
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Darn .. Vince , and I was just about to write you a HOT letter . Well , NO pay .. NO play !
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I've just registered here to thank everyone for this great thread (and apologies for reviving an old thread). I have been writing for the past several months (although not as often as many of you I am sure) with a woman with the Changsha Love Bridge Company. I will be certain to obtain some hard evidence before I make any further commitments.
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Very good idea Graham.
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Changsha Love Bridge Agency - been quiet of last. Maybe they turned over a new leaf. Make sure that you can get onto a webcam Graham. But with any women in China you may never be really sure of who you will actually meet until you arrive here.
Willy