China Romance
All About China => Your trip to China => Topic started by: Andy on October 26, 2009, 04:01:20 am
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It is been fun to experience those things that I have been reading about here. From the taxi drivers to the concrate hard beds it is all part of the fun. The air polution is hard to not notice. When I arrived in Changsha I was disapointed a little bit because my lady was not there to greet me at the airport. Our translator was there and a driver from the agency. She was in the middle of moving and could not come to meet me. This was yesterday, luckily today I have meet her and we spent some time together visiting the orange islands. She does not speak english and we only had my electronic translator with us. Unfortunetly she did not like the translator much, because it is a slow way to chat so for tomorrow I have aranged for a translator. She did enjoyed the time we spent togheter. People like to stare at me. I need to get used to it. I found Changsha much different then LA. :)
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Andy,
She is very pretty. Hope you have the time of your life.
Shaun
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Wow, what a beautiful lady.
I hope you have fun in Changsha. I've just got back from Wuhan and had a fantastic time. I'll upload some photos once I've sorted through them.
I hope you manage to communicate OK. I was lucky my lady spoke quite a bit of English but we had to rely on her electronic translator a bit. Communicating via it was painfully slow.
Make sure you try the local oranges, they're delicious.
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Nice looking woman there Andy...congrats mate...
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My fellow LA bro , yes you have yourself a nice looking Lady there . I don't need to tell you to enjoy yourself's , but do try to make it easier for the two of you .. by having a Translator with you maybe every other day and let your Lady handle the price for such . Good Luck , Andy .
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Nice looking woman Andy. No matter what happens, just enjoy it. Dont forget, everything is negotiable there. They wont let you walk away.
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She's beautiful! Have a great time Andy.
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Nice looking lady there. Have fun with your trip in Changsha.
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You do get used to the stares. The best thing to do is to visit somewhere there is so unlikely to be a Westerner that they simply do not believe you are there. I found such a place walking around the gated compounds in Wuhan. Wow, I am mad!!!
The electronic translators the ladies carry are pretty good. But it seems to take forever for the lady to draw the Chinese characters on the screen. Fortunately I took my notebook computer out and we hooked into the hotel's internet access. My lady installed the thing she uses to type Chinese (it's not Pinyin, and I have no idea how it works, but it is blazingly fast).
I did actually use my phone's Chinese dictionary quite a bit - it was really useful for finding individual words of things (like the names of different fruits, and animals at the zoo).
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You do get used to the stares. The best thing to do is to visit somewhere there is so unlikely to be a Westerner that they simply do not believe you are there. I found such a place walking around the gated compounds in Wuhan. Wow, I am mad!!!
Why get so mad at the stares? They are not being rude, they are just curious. It just takes getting a little used to it. If your lady saw you getting mad at the stares I would think that would hurt her feelings and make her think you do not like Chinese people. My wife said as much to me. I just made one comment on it. She said she was glad I did not mind as they are just curious, not being rude. Now I thought the stares i got when with Qingqing were priceless.
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Oh you misunderstand me there JimB. I did not get mad about the stares. But walking around some of those compounds in downtrodden Wuhan, well that was a bit mad.
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Ok, sorry, I must have misread it.
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When I took my daughter to Shanghai she was seven, and she had the longest, silver-white blonde hair. When we started to wander around the tourist sites a succession of people came up to us and asked to take a photo of her. I am very ashamed to say at first I thought it was some kind of scam. But then we realised that was all there was to it. So my little Emma had such a wonderful time, with all these people taking photos of her all day long. She felt like a celebrity. She loved it! *laughs*
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I never get used to the stares.So I just stare back.It ussualy messes them up enough that they quit.Another good tactic is start talking to them in English or Spanish.Really jacks with there minds.
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The electronic translators the ladies carry are pretty good. But it seems to take forever for the lady to draw the Chinese characters on the screen. Fortunately I took my notebook computer out and we hooked into the hotel's internet access. My lady installed the thing she uses to type Chinese (it's not Pinyin, and I have no idea how it works, but it is blazingly fast).
I did actually use my phone's Chinese dictionary quite a bit - it was really useful for finding individual words of things (like the names of different fruits, and animals at the zoo).
I think what you're talking about is something called Wubi (5-stroke). I hear it's pretty common, however, I never figured out where I could download the software for it. Personally I prefer pinyin...much faster for me to enter info.
In-Jaul
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Why get so mad at the stares? They are not being rude, they are just curious. It just takes getting a little used to it. If your lady saw you getting mad at the stares I would think that would hurt her feelings and make her think you do not like Chinese people. My wife said as much to me. I just made one comment on it. She said she was glad I did not mind as they are just curious, not being rude. Now I thought the stares i got when with Qingqing were priceless.
I became accustomed to stares at an early age in my life - i suppose it was one of the pains of having been born so beautiful!!!!!!:icon_cheesygrin:
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I am smiling away just like you do. Haha... sometimes you can see them trying not to stare. Anyway I am having a good time with my lady. Yesterday she took me some walking streets that foreginers like to visit and then we took some pictures there. Then she took me to some streets that I am sure not many tourist seen. It was like stepping back in time. Street vendors everywhere and the streets are crowed. People selling food everywhere and the smell of the air is hard to describe. I still get the stares, but I am hardly take notice when I am with her. I try some popular food and of course it was really spicy. It was good but my stomack did not enjoyed it much. I had to refuse to eat dog meat. Haha I am not that brave. She seems to have a problem that I look so young for my age and that I am too slim. I can change the slim problem, but I can't change how young I look. I will have to talk about this things with her today. She have to accept me as I am.
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Wow Andy, you two look awesome together.
Don't be too concerned about her trying to fatten you up or change you. Her comments are just meant to show her genuine interest in you, that she cares for you. Take it as a compliment.
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Nice photos Andy. You look like you have a gem there.
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We had another great day today and she is starting to warm up to me a little bit more. She came to my apartment with the translator and two of her friends so I was taken care of by four beatiful ladies. First we went to have lunch and we ate a very delicious fish soup and I enjoyed the gabbage too. The ladies allways kept my plate full of food. All the ladies spoke very good english accept my girl. She will start to study english soon, but there is a shortage of engilsh teachers so the classes are not cheap. Then we went to a huge park and walked for hours. All the ladies felt tired from all the walking so we took a taxi back to my apartment. Here is a new picture from today.
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Wow, she is exotically beautiful. Is your lady eating like a horse like mine was? God almighty it was amazing how much food fitted into that teeny body of hers.
That bit about an English teacher shortage - wow, that's exactly what some of my fellow brothers need to hear!
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Nice picture of Andy and the ladies walking in the park. Is it an overcast day? Or is the pollution really that bad that it makes the sky always look that grey?
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Wuhan and Yichang were like that. Some of it is pollution. But mostly it is water vapour - Asia is for the most part warm and humid. After heavy overnight rain I found that the next morning everything in Wuhan was grey - it was like I had a monochrome camera :dodgy:.
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Great to see the photos Andy... It brings back a lot of memories to me :icon_biggrin: Changsha doesn't seems to be very hot regarding to your photos. When I was there in June it was very hot and humid so it was not so pleasant to be walking around. It was better in April...
I know that you will have a real good time and don't forget to eat "Hot Pot".. It is my favorite food and it isn't very spicy. The dumplins are also very good and if you dare try the Stinky Toru too :icon_cheesygrin:
Like the rest said: Just have a good time
PS Welcome to the Changsha Fan Club DS
Peter
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If you want exotic food in Changsha there's a place to eat snake. You have to be there early or they run out plus they limit the amount of snake you can have per table if i remember right. Your lady should know as I its well know by the locals.
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My plan whenever I get there is to say, "Buenos Dias."
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Great updates Andy, you lady is rather stunning I have to say, but you already know that I'm sure!
Really enjoying reading your account, keep the updates and pic coming.
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If you want exotic food in Changsha there's a place to eat snake. You have to be there early or they run out plus they limit the amount of snake you can have per table if i remember right. Your lady should know as I its well know by the locals.
What style do they cook it over there? We have snake here, although it's usually mixed into soup or congee.
In-Jaul
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Thanks for the replyes, more coming soon, but today my lady has to work and we will only meet up on the evening. One of her friends will keep me company today until then. It is almost always overcast, but I think the pollution is a big factor for all the grey you see. I do miss the blue sky from home. Bigbutt thanks for the help with english school, maybe our ladies can enroll in the same class. :) I had the hot pot, the dumplins, stinky toru, but I was not brave enough to try the snake. Not yet. My lady can eat a lot, but she is holding back on the intake, because she is getting fat. I told her that she is just perfect, but I do not think she listened. :) I miss her...
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Great read - terrific pictures - yes she is a beauty. Best wishes for the rest of your trip.
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I am enjoying the updates! Keep it up, and have a great trip.
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My plan whenever I get there is to say, "Buenos Dias."
Hey Shaun, don't you know that means: "who the f##k are you looking at", in Chinese! Ha ha ha....................
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My plan whenever I get there is to say, "Buenos Dias."
Hey Shaun, don't you know that means: "who the f##k are you looking at", in Chinese! Ha ha ha....................
Well???? :angel: If the shoe fits?
John your a bad boy.
Andy, what a trip and what a woman. Make the most of it and I hope your trip there exceeds your dreams.
Shaun
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Hmm, I did not see snake on the restaurant menus where I went. But in Wuhan there was a restaurant with snakes in a cage on the pavement outside. Hmm, they also had a goose and a cute bunny rabbit in a cage.
Andy don't worry about your lady getting fat. The curvy chinese lady is the very sexy lady!
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What can I add , what the other's have not already said ? Andy , love your Photo's . You sure do look young for being 48 . :angel:
Enjoy buddy , this Lady could make your Dreams come True . :blush:
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Hi Andy,
Enjoying your posts; your lady is beautiful and I hope you have a great trip. You're 48? Gosh, what are you on - I'd like to get some of that!!
Enjoy!
John
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You're 48? Gosh, what are you on - I'd like to get some of that!!
Enjoy!
John
I think Arnold was having fun with the age since Andy's profile lists him as 34. Still young looking though.
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Andy,
The pic with the two of you walking in the park is great. You look great together!! She is a cutie :icon_biggrin:!
Looking forward to your updates.
RC
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I am in big trouble with my lady. Here is the whole story. Our translator helped me out to save money and recommended a collage student as a translator. She is young 19 years old kid, but her English seemed to be fine and she is also a very friendly person.
I am very friendly person and I always assume that people are good and honest until it is proven otherwise. I was too blind to see that this young girl developed a certain affection towards me that went behind friendship. She has changed the translations between us and as you can see where this goes it caused quite the damage. My lady try to warn me about her, but I did not understand her concern, because I though she knows that this kid is just trying to became our friend.
As it is now looking back to certain events I can see why she did not trusted her. I was just too stupid to notice it. To make this story short I have talked to our translator from the agency. She is very sorry to introduce us to collage student. She have talked to my lady and my lady told me how these kid was changing around our conversation. Here is the example. I have brought a number of gifts for my lady and one of them was a book full of pictures about California. The translator girl found this book very attractive so she told me that my lady does not want this gift, because she enjoys more practical things. I did hurt my feelings a little bit, but I did not want to make a big deal out of it (24hour rule).
Then she told me that my lady is fine with it if I let her have the book so I let her have the book since at least she can enjoy it. It was a lie. My lady liked the book and she want it to have it so I can only imagine what she though when I give this kid the book, just before they both left yesterday. Today the girl made even more mess of things just with her being with our present. That is another two pages and I am not a good writer.
To make it short. (again) My mistakes is that I have not payed attention to my lady warning about her. I should have got rid of the translator, before she arrived to my apartment where I was with her and waiting for my lady to arrive. She came with a friend then she left after she saw the girl was with me. Then I have talked with our agency translation and find out what is going on. I let the collage student know what is happening and I told her that I do not want to see her again and I told her that I do not want her to call my lady. I am sure she will call my lady and make things even worst. I was polite, but I am sure she did not take it well.
I have talked to my agency translator and told her that I will write a letter to my lady and try to patch things up before it is too late. I hope she can forgive me that I have been so blind. I wrote a short letter to let her know that I love her very much and I apologise for the mistakes I have done. I also told her that we need to talk with a help of our agency translator. I did not went into details, just kept it simple and to the point. I think that even though I have screwed up so bad she loves me enough to forgive me. I hope others will read this and learn from it. I will let you guys know what happen next and I hope it will be a good news.
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Jeez Andy...that is a horrible happening !!!
I sure hope that you can get it fixed.......this is yet one more trap for us to fall into....thanks for the "heads-up"...and fingers crossed for a happy resolution.
DavidE
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I am sure if it gets explained properly she will understand. Just do not take too long to do it. The longer you wait the more it looks like just an excuse. Or you are undecided which one you prefer.
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I just talked to our agency translator and she told me not to worry too much. She is not angry with me or blame me for what happened, but she does not want to see that girl again. She will come to see me after work. Huge rock off my shoulders, I probably grow a couple of inches. I can't wait to see her. I wish I knew where she works.
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Andy,
Lesson learned right? I learned early on in my marriage to the uh, mother of my children that they know when another woman is coming her man wwwwaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy before he does. So if she says something to you then you had better listen. My ex would say to me, "You'd better watch that one." What she meant was stay away and do not look at her very much if at all.
Shaun
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Andy,
Lesson learned right? I learned early on in my marriage to the uh, mother of my children that they know when another woman is coming her man wwwwaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy before he does. So if she says something to you then you had better listen. My ex would say to me, "You'd better watch that one." What she meant was stay away and do not look at her very much if at all.
Shaun
Thanks for the advice Shaun. I will remember this lesson for sure. I am glad she is a lady who is willing to work things out. It is a good sign that she is the one for me. I only have a couple of more days left as I need to return on sunday and yesterday was a total waste. I feel there is more to learn about my lady and just not enough time.
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Wow, sorry about your problems there Andy. I also feel I need to learn more about my lady - a week is just not long enough!
I am always worried that due to my complete lack of knowledge about Chinese I really have no idea what my lady is saying when people phone up etc. I need to learn Mandarin fast.
Have a good last couple of days!
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You're 48? Gosh, what are you on - I'd like to get some of that!!
Enjoy!
John
I think Arnold was having fun with the age since Andy's profile lists him as 34. Still young looking though.
Thank you Rhonald. Arnold, you're a naughty boy!!! And I've wasted a lot of valuable time running round all the chemists and health food shops trying to find out what Andy is on...... mhhh:blush:
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Andy , sorry you and your Lady had to endure this awful experience . But , what a great point you have brought forward . Many use any way they can to jump on the Bandwagon to catch a Foreign Husband ... don't they ?
Sorry Johnboy , I owe you a Dinner for that ... when ever your in LA .
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I am waiting for my lady to arrive. I called her and asked her if she is ready. I just use my electronic translator to find the words and I became pretty good at reading pinyin. The hard part is to understand the answer for my question, but as days goes by it is easier to distingvis the words from each other and pick out those words that I can understand then try to make a guess what was the sentence is about. I rememeber that is how it was when I learned English. It took me about a year to learn English to the level where I could have conversations and if I could spend a year in China I am sure I could pick it up the language too. I have read that learning Chinese is hard to begin, but it will get easier as you progress. I just got a call from our new translator that they are about to arrive. I better make the most of my last day here. I am planing to take her to the boat ride at the park.
Andy , sorry you and your Lady had to endure this awful experience . But , what a great point you have brought forward . Many use any way they can to jump on the Bandwagon to catch a Foreign Husband ... don't they ?
Sorry Johnboy , I owe you a Dinner for that ... when ever your in LA .
Arnold it did teach me a valuable lesson which is to listen to my lady and also that do not get too friendly with other women. While I was thinking that I am making a new friend she was after more than that. I guess it shows that I do not have much experience with the ladies. I hope to meet with you someday and you lovely wife. You are a good example that we can find what we are all here for.
The pollution is really bothering my nose, I keep building up mocus. Is there anything I can take to fix this problem?
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Andy
Nik ( feisnik ) have a very good translator that he used before. PM him and you will get the name.. I got the name earlier but I didn't need a translator at my last visit..
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My ariplane will leave tomorrow and I just had a wonderfull night with my lady. The weather has just changed and it became very windy and it cleaned up the air very well and I can actually see the buildings on the othersize of the river. To make sure I made a short video to record this never seen event. The strong wind forced us to change our plan, but it was not a total bust. I really hope this weather change do not delay my airplane tomorrow.
I do not know much about women, but I know they like to shop, so that is what I have decided to do first, besides she likes to walk on the walking street and show off her forgein boyfriend as we walked holding hands. I told her that she need to choose some clothes for me. She was unsure first but after I bough a jacket she choosen then she became more confident and she skillfuly procided to find me more colthes to buy. I also bought her a nice boot and when she asked me why I bought the shoe for her I told her that I want her to remember me when she wear her new shoe. After that she bought me a sweater from her own money so I will do the same. When we almost finished spending all my money we had take refuge from the wind in the McDonnalds. It might be not glamarous dinning experience, but my lady loved it very much. We started to get into some deep conversation about ourself and she talked lot of about herself.
I found the conversation very important so I stoped our talk and we went to my aprartment when we can talk better. The wind was picking up very well and I think she got scared so she grabed my arm and started to run just to reach our building. She was laughing hard and it was very good to see her so happy.
When we got into our apartment we countinued where we left off. We aslo had a some tender time when she skillfuly cut my nails. Nobody ever cut my nails before. I have never thought that such a simple act can show this much affection.
I was waiting for this conversation since I landed, but I could never engage her talk too much about herself so I was happy to learn about her personality. I did discovered certain discrapencies from the EMF letters. From the letters I have been informed that she does not like to party well that is not the truth, because she loves to go clubing and she love dancing. She is a very outgoing girl who does not like to stay at home and wash, clean and cook everyday. I let to belive otherwise. As it now I am sure that I want to continue with this lady, but it seems I just found out more about her real self. In one way I am happy that she has this wild side that loves clubing a dancing, because she will pull me out my otherwise boring everyday life. In the other way it worries me if she will be a stable person to raise a family. I will have to spend much more time with her and I think she has a complicated personality.
As from now on I am off from EMF letters and tomorrow I will ask her friend to translate between us. I am also going to have to be very honest to myself and think what I want to do, but love can sure blind my judgments.
I need to get ready for tomorrow. I will let you guys know how was the trip back.
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Yes Andy - a very mature approach you have there. Thanks for sharring your story with words and most importantly, pictures.
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Great update Andy, I think we each do this at our own speed.
The hard bit starts when you get home and you start to think about your trip and re-live every step of the journey, just take it slow and remember what it feels like being with her now.
Oh and bring a hanky with you to the airport ;)
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I agree about the sniffle rag Irishman. It took me 4 trips before I had no tears when I returned home. I guess it takes a few commutes until solidarity sets in and thus the arrivals and departures feel the norm.
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A great update Andy!
Yes love does cloud your thinking and makes it very hard to think objectively about your lady. On the one hand I really love my lady, on the other she has some rough edges which drive me mad. I hope your first week back at home won't be as tough as mine was. A combination of jetlag, viruses, pollution, lovesickness, tough Mandarin new course and a very negative EMF from my lady really hit me badly.
I think most Chinese ladies like to sing and dance, I have not yet met a shy Chinese lady who would rather stay at home washing the dishes :s.
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Andy, no matter what happens in the future, you sound like you had a good trip full of memories. So enjoy. And no regrets.
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From the letters I have been informed that she does not like to party well that is not the truth, because she loves to go clubing and she love dancing. She is a very outgoing girl who does not like to stay at home and wash, clean and cook everyday. I let to belive otherwise. As it now I am sure that I want to continue with this lady, but it seems I just found out more about her real self. In one way I am happy that she has this wild side that loves clubing a dancing, because she will pull me out my otherwise boring everyday life. In the other way it worries me if she will be a stable person to raise a family. I will have to spend much more time with her and I think she has a complicated personality.
Andy , remember chinese Women are different ? This outgoing of Her's is NOT about her , it's about you . She feels that's what makes you the happiest . This is just another sign , like cutting your Nail's ( which is a very Intimate thing to do ) as you have already noticed .
She really is falling for you , showing her way's to keep you happy . You must be doing something right , do get all this attention ... so keep it going . Just show her the same little things , so she can feel you two are on one page " Together " .
Ps: love to meet you someday , after things have settled a little . PM me your E-Mail and we can get together for Dinner or something in the near Future .
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Sorry for the late check in. There was snow in Peking on Nov.1 when I should have left and they have delayed me 3 days. Just got home. I will write tomorrow when I have more time.
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Sorry for the late check in. There was snow in Peking on Nov.1 when I should have left and they have delayed me 3 days. Just got home. I will write tomorrow when I have more time.
PEKING Andy - just how long have you been away?
Willy
I think most Chinese ladies like to sing and dance, I have not yet met a shy Chinese lady who would rather stay at home washing the dishes :s.
I will introduce you to mine one day Brett.
Willy
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If I would have a chance to redo this visit there are some things I would do differently. I would have scheduled my trip to fall on some Chinese holidays when she would have more days off. Then I would hire a professional translator. The biggest mistake I have done is hire a collage student to translate for us. Even her English speaking friends were bad not because they did not translate correctly, but because they always trying to chat away. They were chatting with each other and also they were making conversation with me and try to make me their new friend. I am fine with that since I like to make new friends, but more importantly I really want to hear my lady talk to me. Even though all the problems with the communication I did learn a lot of about her.
In the letters she wrote me that she loves me, but she never said it to me when I was there. I did though about it and first it worried me, but I have changed my mind. Even though she never said it I know she cares for me from the tender attachment and body language so I had to stop worry about it.
All this problems with our communication had inspired her to seriously study English, as she wants to talk to me directly. From the bad experience there are some good things can come out. I am also motivated to get back to my mandarin studies and work hard to learn.
Abigbutt and brett I am glad that my lady is an outgoing type and that she makes new friends easily. I put more thinking into it and I figured that it is actually what I need. I need someone to have tons of fun with and pull me out of the rat race of everyday life. I miss her very much and I looking at my life here with a different eye. It is hard to explain.
I did have a problem with the pollution and it caused a pain in my nose and some leaking, but it is back to normal now. I used some nasal spray and also inhaled some steam from a hot pot of water. It fixed my nose within two days while I was in my hotel in Beijing. The jetlag is not too bad I adjust to time changes very well. I do feel tired and sleepy now as I am putting in some overtime at work, but I should be back in shape by tomorrow.
Earlier I decided not use EMF anymore, but I had to change my mind. Using a translator program and QQ is just not good enough. There are some things that are too important to let it get messed up in the translation.
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Andy...I am pleased that you have rethought about Emf's, they ARE needed for IMPORTANT pieces of information (like it or not, and as long as they are translated properly).
Just remember that doing what your doing IS winning her heart, so keep it up:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
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Yes Andy, for daily chat QQ, MSM, or other devices are alright - but for serious words EMF ia a big help. Better a small cost getting the words across correctly then having you girl cross with you because of some misunderstanding. Thanks for sharring your story - now get ready for many daytime reflections deflecting you from work.
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Jim , could not agree with you more , with the love of my life have never used emf's , we use Yahoo Messenger/cam and QQ/cam daily with no problems , no mistakes and no bull ,and Ying has not a great English vocab , regards Ying and Robert .
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Scott,
I completely disagree with what you are saying. :icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
:fi_lone_ranger: Shaun :fi_lone_ranger:
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It can and does go eather way.I used Emf a couple of times after my first trip to China.And had good results everything was translated correctly.But I intimidated the translater.I told him.That I would be very unhappy.If he kept screwing around with the letters.Or He wasn't translating them right.AFter I told him that to his face we never had another problem.
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Scott,
I was joking. After all I have been through the last couple of weeks I'd be foolish to really disagree. I said it be because you said, "because now I'm not the only one disagreeing about something. Very nice for a change!"
I was in a hurry to leave the house when I read it and made a quick, I thought, funny comment.
Shaun
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Jim,
I am working on a thread about what I went through with Pinky so as to give newbies some key signs to look for. It is going to take a little time to sort through all of the data.
I thought I would have more time since I was out for 3 weeks because of having carpal tunnel surgery on my left hand on the 30th but the office has called me back to train new drivers. We are short 14 and scraping the bottom of the barrel in the job pool. You would think with unemployment being so high we would have people trying to bust the doors down. If a person has been convicted of a DUI or a money related crime ever we will not hire them. We are getting 1 out of about 25 people who can pass. I can't drive right now but I sure can train and can use the extra money.
Shaun
How about that for a hijack. Employment. Now back to our regular hijacking. Take it away Jim. :icon_cheesygrin:
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I am sticking with the direct e-mail contact now. I am using my computer to translate between us, but I told her if there is a problem understanding my letter we can use the agency translator. I do not think it will be necessary. I am learning much more using direct contact and I really do not want to use EMF again. I made a mistake to rush off to China to see my lady. I went there financially unprepared and it caused great doubts in my lady. She does not think I could support her and her mother. I wrote her a letter that while I am not as established as I should be at the my age of 35 we do share the same goals. I told her the truth that life with me will be not without problems and it will be not simple. She will have to study and work and love me to achieve the goals we both want. She will have to make a decision. I am afraid she might want a to live a life without problems and difficulties something I can not give to her.
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Andy , after reading your Post ... the first thing that came to my MInd ... was something my Wife wrote to me one day . As we discussed pretty much the same , about our Future . She quoted me ...
" Love will have us do many hard thing's , as long as we are together "
You put your Lady now in a position ... where you will see how much she really LOVES you . It might come back good or not so good , but you have a clear understanding how to move on from there . Well done , Andy . Honesty is alway's the best Policy .
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Jim,
I am working on a thread about what I went through with Pinky so as to give newbies some key signs to look for. It is going to take a little time to sort through all of the data.
I thought I would have more time since I was out for 3 weeks because of having carpal tunnel surgery on my left hand on the 30th but the office has called me back to train new drivers. We are short 14 and scraping the bottom of the barrel in the job pool. You would think with unemployment being so high we would have people trying to bust the doors down. If a person has been convicted of a DUI or a money related crime ever we will not hire them. We are getting 1 out of about 25 people who can pass. I can't drive right now but I sure can train and can use the extra money.
Shaun
How about that for a hijack. Employment. Now back to our regular hijacking. Take it away Jim. :icon_cheesygrin:
This just in from our newroom in Seligman....dit dit dit
What kind of trucks, I got a cdl and clean driving record for over 30 years
I just have a little problem with high blood pressure and hearing...what did you say...huh
Back to you howard.....
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Jim,
I am working on a thread about what I went through with Pinky so as to give newbies some key signs to look for. It is going to take a little time to sort through all of the data.
I thought I would have more time since I was out for 3 weeks because of having carpal tunnel surgery on my left hand on the 30th but the office has called me back to train new drivers. We are short 14 and scraping the bottom of the barrel in the job pool. You would think with unemployment being so high we would have people trying to bust the doors down. If a person has been convicted of a DUI or a money related crime ever we will not hire them. We are getting 1 out of about 25 people who can pass. I can't drive right now but I sure can train and can use the extra money.
Shaun
How about that for a hijack. Employment. Now back to our regular hijacking. Take it away Jim. :icon_cheesygrin:
This just in from our newroom in Seligman....dit dit dit
What kind of trucks, I got a cdl and clean driving record for over 30 years
I just have a little problem with high blood pressure and hearing...what did you say...huh
Back to you howard.....
Rocky,
CDL, the lack of hearing and patience is required. So far you got 2 out of 3. They are long and yellow. You can find them in every state in the US. You see them for brief periods during the day. Most of them have the summer off. The driver of these vehicles are the only people in this world with all of their problems behind them. Got the picture?
Shaun
Back to you Jim....
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are they Bananas????:icon_biggrin::icon_biggrin:
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are they Bananas????:icon_biggrin::icon_biggrin:
Mike, Yes it a higher level of learning needed for my job. How often do you see rocket scientist doing this kind of advanced work. Well I do know one and a retired NASA Engineer. Most of us have achieved our highest level of incompetence and edumacation.
Rob, with a few nuts sprinkled in. I forget nuts or nut cases? Hmmmm.
The alternative answer here is only in a bunch.
Shaun
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She wrote me a response and wrote me that she is not afraid of any hardship that comes along. Even though she is willing to work and study she is still worried that she will be a great burden on me and the burden will cause unhappiness for both of us. I have told her again that she will be no burden on me. The people I love are never can be burden on me. I do not think my words are reaching her. I believe she wants to see some action from my side. More action less talk kind of thing. Yesterday she left me a note on QQ. She wrote " I miss you and I wish you are a Chinese man." I used the translator so I thought the translator got some word wrong, but I did a word by word analysis and the translation looks right. She does not like Chinese man so I am not sure what to think of it. I wait 24 hour before I ask her. Maybe she just want me to be there with her?
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Andy yes that is what she is trying to tell you.She is telling you that if you were a Chinese man you two wouldn't have to be apart.For long periods
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She may have said a man Living in China? and it translated to chinese man?
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I think she wants you there with her and misses you.
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Here is her note. It is a little different then I remembered. Translation by MDBG. is: "I also want you! If you do Chinese men, I must be the happiest woman in ... ..."
We had a short QQ sessions just a little while ago. She got me on the web cam and she seemed to have fun introducing me to her co workers. Unfortunately she did not have a cam. :( It was fun anyway.
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Andy , one thing I learned writing to my Wife and my two " Sister's " Chinese Women do NOT want to be a Burden on the Person there writing to . They have too much Self-Respect to ever let this happen . She is very right , that this could be also a Hurdle you must overcome .. one way or the other .. if there is going to be a happy and harmonious Couple .
That is really something , you must show her ... not in writing . You must show her HOW MUCH you LOVE her , by doing certain things for her , that only a Man that is totally in love with her would do .
I give you an example : While it was pouring Rain outside , I drove for two hour's last year about the samr time .. to find Snow . Why ?
I was determined to build her a Snowman and I did . I was holding with one Hand an Umbrella while with the other I build this Snowman for her . This shows , you mean what you say and do .. to any Lady . My Wife still brings this up with every trip I have taken .
You choose , what is best for you two ... in your Mind , but do it . I'm sure you'll both be glad YOU did .
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Yes, Nina tells me she doesn't want to be a burden to me often. She is very worried that she will not be able to find decent work when she comes since she doesn't speak English well yet.
And I wish I was a Chinese Man fairly often, like Willy is.
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This is the same with my lady as well. I suspect she is overstretching herself working in her slave job and trying to learn English as well. I have told her in the UK that you don't need good English to get a job - hell most McDonalds employees in London can barely speak a word of English!
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Andy, you old softie you.