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All About China => Share your love story => Topic started by: Neil on August 18, 2009, 09:07:01 am

Title: luckiest man alive
Post by: Neil on August 18, 2009, 09:07:01 am
Short story:  Xin is gorgeous, feminine, sweet and I am totally smitten.

Long story:

Landed in Hong Kong with the idea that I couldn't or shouldn't go into hong kong proper but should stay in the airport til my ferry to Zhongshan showed up (8 hours).  Well, I screwed that up.  Ok guys, pro tip.  If you're taking a ferry from the Hong Kong airport, you have to get your ticket before picking up your baggage.  When you get your bags, you're outside the ferry zone and they won't let you back in.  They'll go get your bags for you when you buy ferry tickets.

As it is, Hong Kong is pretty simple.  Bought a ticket on the train from the airport, got off at Kowloon and switched to a bus to the China ferry terminal and got to see a great tour of Hong Kong in the process.  Tried calling the translator but she wasn't available so I just got my ferry ticket and figured I'd call from Zhongshan.  Wrong.  There's no pay phones in the Zhongshan ferry terminal.  

The cab drivers are pretty agressive too but I lucked out and got a friendly one.  I dropped my passport somewhere and the guy runs out after me and gives it to me, then offers to drive me to a hotel.  Ok, sure, I'll get a hotel and then phone the translator from there.  Wrong again.  I use the taxi driver's cell phone to call the translator and some dude answered, no english.  I'm starting to worry this guy I don't know in a regular car is driving me somewhere I have no idea about who doesn't speak much english.  He says let me try, he types in the number and talkes to Mini for a few minutes, passes me the phone and voila.  She tells him to take me to a specific hotel and she'll meet me.

I get there and I'm nervous so I book the room and go upstairs.  2 mins later there's a ring, Mini's here.  We talk for a few mins, getting to know each other and her phone rings.  It's Xin!  She'll be here in a few minutes.  Ok, I start to get even more nervous.  

Few minutes later theres a knock on the door.  I open it, we hug and she gives me a present to open, wrapped beautifully.  I carefully open it and she's looking impressed and talking rapidly to Mini.  I'm wondering but I'm too nervous to do anything but unwrap.  Inside is a beautiful glass paperweight with her picture in it.  Xin points to the wrapping paper.  Inside is a handwritten note that she won't tell me what it says - written on the back of the paper.  If I had torn it, it wouldn't have been the same.  

We hug, we talk, we're getting mini to take pictures, grinning and we can't keep out hands off each other.  I haven't held hands this much since high school.  

We go out to eat, walk down the street.  They order for me, I can eat with chopsticks but not well so we got a good laugh.  Xin gets the girl to bring me a fork.  I'm not using it.  I can do this.  Oh, and she paid.  

We leave and walk past shops.  They decide to rent one of those bikes with the seat on the back for us.  He lays a board down so me and Xin are on the seat and Mini is perched on the board behind his seat.  We spent hours on that thing, weaving in and out of traffic.  Zhongshan may not be the richest city, but to me it was beautiful and we had a blast.

We went to the statue of Zhongshan and walked through the park, pictures like mad.  Mini's cell phone, my camera.  Walk, sit, hold hands, it's like we've been married for years.  So comfortable together and Mini and Xin are like sisters, chatting back and forth, grinning and every once in a while, she'll translate something they figure I should know, then continue.  

She paid for the bike ride (all I have is hundreds), we stopped and bought some fruit for the hotel room tonight, she paid.  Mini got me a deal on the hotel room.  

I've never felt so comfortable.  She's in love, I'm in love, what's not to love?!?  Tomorrow, we're having lunch at Xin's, she'll cook (I'll help).  Then swimming, then dinner and sister's.  

Ok, I was a wreck after a 14 hour flight, 3 hours in Vancouver airport, 1 hour from Kelowna, 2 hour drive to Kelowna, 3 hours in Hong Kong, 2 hours enroute from Hong Kong and 1.5 hours on the ferry.  Unshaved, greasy and wired from too many starbucks coffees, but I will share a couple pics to statisfy you guys.

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Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Scottish_Rob on August 18, 2009, 09:18:51 am
Neil she is gorgeous, your one lucky son of a b...h...lo:dodgy:

Seriously though I am so pleased for you mate you deserve it, have a blast with the rest of your trip:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin::angel: And don't do anything I wouldn't, (that's lots of scope for ya...lol)
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Danny on August 18, 2009, 09:19:20 am
Neil

She's absolutely gorgeous. What a lucky fellow you are!

I am so happy for you.

Such a great story. I am so glad it is working out for you. That's just fantastic.

Thanks for the tip on the ferry. I'm catching the ferry from Hong Kong to Zhu Hai so that's all good to know.

I love the glass paperweight. It's funny because what do you use a paperweight for? But if I was given one in the way you had been given one, it would be one of my most treasured possessions.

Thanks for taking the time to write your post.

Have lots of fun. Enjoy yourself and make her happy.

Danny
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Arnold on August 18, 2009, 09:23:19 am
Yes .. Neil your right , you are the luckiest Son of a Gun . You Guy's look great together even sideway's . Haha

Sorry what Honk Kong did to you , but Xin will make it all better . :heart:
Oh forgot ... I see the Chocolate has melted :icon_cheesygrin:
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Neil on August 18, 2009, 09:28:29 am
haha.  Thanks guys.  Yeah...my net at the hotel is slow as ass so I'm gonna have to leave the picture as is for now.
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Post by: ahkiwi on August 18, 2009, 09:37:46 am
LOL, Neil, you look stoned out of your tree in that first photo :icon_cheesygrin:

You had me tearing up with the paper weight part (I would have if I'd been there /sniffle)

Congrats and good on ya mate !
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Rhonald on August 18, 2009, 10:02:06 am
Finally we see the face behind the chocolate mask.

Great first post and yes - AWESOME pictures. She is far sweeter than any chocolate I know. She for sure has melted away your exterior :icon_cheesygrin:
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Willy The Londoner on August 18, 2009, 10:32:14 am
She is great Neil,  But how have you found time to tell us all about it.  How have you managed to keep your hands off of her for so long.  With respect that is a pretty long note for a man in your position.

Fill us in later and make the best of your time now.

You two will do well.

Willy

Also message for Danny - try to get a flight that arrives at Hong Kong between 9am and 3pm the times of the direct ferry from the airport to Zhuhai are 12.15,  14.15 and 1700.
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: MLM on August 18, 2009, 11:41:43 am
Neil, she is absolutely beautiful, good on you brother, for now just enjoy your time with her and later update us.
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Neil on August 18, 2009, 04:04:52 pm
We got back to the apartment fairly late.  Around 9pm, after riding around on the bike.  We all came up to the hotel room and talked for a bit, made some plans, I tried showing some facebook pics but facebook is inaccessable.  I'll ask a friend to update my status and a couple pictures.  

We talked some more and they decided I needed to get some rest so got ready to leave.  We kissed each other on the cheek and I paid the translator fee.  800 RMB.  Like I'd even consider not paying.  Xin got a call so took it out in the hall while Mini and I chatted.  Mini asked some good questions.  Why a chinese lady?  My answer has always been that when I decided to start looking for someone serious, one of my criteria was that she had to be a good girl, a nice girl, someone with morals and values.  In order to find someone like that in Canada (yes, I think it would be possible) she would be religious and I'm just not that religious, and I didn't want to join a church just to find a wife.  Something about that seems wrong to me.  

Speaking of phones.  Xin has a cell phone of course.  I never had her number though and she doesn't speak enough english for it to make any sense until now.  She used it maybe a few times while we were together.  While eating she got a call - it was on vibrate so I didn't hear it ring.  She opened her purse, opened the phone, looked to see who it was, then turned it off.  That blew me away from the stories I've heard.  It never once got in our way.  Yet.

Early in our letters I had started calling her Sweet Xin.  She really has a beautiful heart.  She has a kindness I just adore.  While riding around, we stopped at a market and bought some fruit for the hotel.  2 apples and 2 of these red skinned fruit you peel and the insides are white with black seeds.  No idea what it's called but it tastes like a cross between a melon and an apple.  Nice.  When we got back on the bike, she takes an apple and hands it to our driver.  It just made me feel so good and I gave her a squeeze to let her know it didn't go unnoticed.  She just smiled.  She really is sweet.  

Before leaving, we gave each other a kiss on the cheek.  They want me to have a good rest for tomorrow so I'm going back to bed.
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Willy The Londoner on August 18, 2009, 04:10:28 pm
That was worth staying up until 4am to hear that news Neil.

Keep on track. We need some good news.


Willy
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: zook144 on August 18, 2009, 05:08:13 pm
Congratulations Neil! She is beautiful and the two of you look great together. Keep up the good work.  Well, I guess it isn't anything like
work now, is it? :icon_cheesygrin:
Don
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: shaun on August 18, 2009, 07:35:08 pm
All I can say is WOW, looks like you got first prize.  Plus, you don't even come close to what I thought Chocolate Man would really look like.

Continued blessings and luck,

Shaun
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Ed W on August 18, 2009, 08:37:21 pm
What great news Neil. Keep us posted so we can hang on your every word. hehe.
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Bob on August 18, 2009, 09:07:19 pm
great story Neil, You both look like you make a good couple, thanks for sharing your stories a pictures with us. Have a great time in China and please keep us posted. This brings back good memories when I was in China with my lady (now wife :heart:)
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: DougK on August 18, 2009, 10:17:13 pm
Good news for you!

You make a good-looking couple. Best wishes for the rest of the trip.

Doug
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Neil on August 19, 2009, 08:02:53 am
Day 2 went well.  They picked me up around 10:30 and we took a bus to Xin's apartment.  It's small, on the third floor, inside a secure gated area.  I met her niece who lives with her, another pretty younger girl named Xia.  They cooked lunch for us.  We went out to go swimming but the pool was closed so we came back home and watched a bit of TV and talked and looked at pictures of Xin.  It seems like a cultural thing but she has books and books and books of pictures of her in various places, ages and poses.  Xin grabbed an english language book and cuddled up beside me on the couch and we taught each other english and chinese.  I met her brother's wife at supper.  She's older and seems more traditional.  She seemed to like me though not knowing Chinese is a real hinderance as far as keeping up with the conversation.  It's easy enough to follow faces and expressions and I can understand the odd word so I can tell when they're discussing me or Canada though.  

We're going for a 3 day tour of Guilin in a couple days.  Mini was warning me that it is an 8 hour bus ride and I will be very bored.  I told her that I'll get to sit beside Xin for 8 hours.  What's not to like?  She is so easy to be comfortable around.  When we walk, if I end up on a different side of her, the purse disapears to the other arm and her hand reaches for mine.  Traffic rules are awesome.  The bigger vehicle generally has the right of way.  The busses will edge into crosswalks and people will disperse around it, allow it to pass then continue on their way.  Scooters and cars going the wrong way down lanes.  Not once accident yet.  

Xin just messaged me, more later.
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Scottish_Rob on August 19, 2009, 09:37:34 am
Mike I think he meant the neice's (Xia) husband... :blush:
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Post by: maxx on August 19, 2009, 09:41:25 am
Mike yeah I got lost to
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Neil on August 19, 2009, 04:14:29 pm
sorry, got sidetracked.  my posts disapeared.  I posted after Mike saying that I meant Xin's brother's wife.  I also posted more afterwards too.  attached pictures and everything.  odd.
Turns out Xin's brother's wife is actually Xin's friend.  "Sister" means best friend.  

Xin came back to the hotel room last night with her friend with concerned looks on their faces.  Her phone rang and she handed it to me.  I talked to a man that Xin knows that speaks a little English.  They are concerned I'm paying too much to the translator and wanted me to tell him how much I was paying.  Turns out the agency told Xin they were charging me 300 a day.  I don't know what the fallout will be from this.

Xin and Xia and some Canadian dude (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/npridgeon/IMG_0308.jpg)

Gang signs (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/npridgeon/IMG_0309.jpg)

Peace (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/npridgeon/IMG_0288.jpg)
Pro tips:  Eating is a social occasion.  Since I don't speak the language, I'm passing the time eating while everyone else is talking, so I get full faster.  If my bowl is empty, it needs more food in it.  Don't refuse.  Martin mentioned 2 refills of rice minimum so you don't offend.

Stop and talk to the other Laowei's.  I was on the bus with a guy with redish hair once.  He waited for me to pass him as we were exiting and we talked briefly.  It was nice to hear some English and I regret not staying and talking a bit.  He seemed to be from Europe somewhere and seemed very friendly.  I think he was here visiting his lady but he could well have been an english teacher.  The girls noticed he could speak Chinese very well.
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Bob on August 19, 2009, 08:26:12 pm
Niel, thanks for sharing your stories and picture with us, you have a very beautiful lady, and Xia is also very attractive. Looks like you are having a great time there,reading your stories brings back good memories of China. Please keep us updated on your visit over there.
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Post by: Ed W on August 19, 2009, 09:13:06 pm
You two look so nice together. I hope your having as much fun as those pics and your posts sound like you are.
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Post by: Willy The Londoner on August 19, 2009, 09:29:12 pm
Neil,

I think we are all pleased that things are going well.

Why do you want Xin to have an English name?   The name Xin tells you she is lovely, pretty and what a damn lucky fellow you are.

You will have more fun with Xin using an electronic translator - Ok the one we use cost 1400 yuan Besta 3000 but you will save a fortune from being ripped off by translator fees.  

Just a tip for all planning your first visit - if your getting full never empty your bowl - they will keep filling it until you burst.  

Willy
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Martin on August 20, 2009, 04:25:16 am
Great trip updates!  I am really enjoying your posts.  But I am confused where is chocolate guy in the pictures?  Maybe that cute Chinese girl ate him, and left herself available to that other laowai.  I mean, it all makes sense...take a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yigbhJX_F50
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Neil on August 20, 2009, 09:02:52 am
We agreed on a name today at supper.  She is now Nina and to make it official, she brought her cell phone to the cell phone store and got her name changed in it.  lol

Today was the best day ever.  

They showed up at 10 with breakfast and then hit me with confronting Mini about giving some money back because we wouldn't be taking the trip to Guilin as planned.  Well, I think it's still happening, but later tomorrow instead and Xin arranged it instead of getting the translator to arrange it - she doesn't trust her to not rip me off.

We took a cab from the hotel to the public swimming pool and here I learned more about Nina than I had known before.  She has the patience of a saint.  She spent nearly 2 hours trying to teach Mini how to swim.  We swam for about 3 hours.  Hot tubs, saunas, water jets of all shapes and sizes and she can swim almost exactly as well as I can.  I was absolutely impressed how completely non-judgemental people are here.  I'm overweight.  I have these bitch tits that I'm emberased about.  It is a non-issue to her and to everyone really.  We would be swimming and talking with Mini and she would slowly float to me, hug, cuddle, then float away and swim more.  While sitting in the sauna a young boy sat down beside me, said hi in English, said how are you, we talked a bit, when it was time to get out, he said bye bye.  Nina giggled and hugged me as we left, she wants a child.  Mini later asked me if I would like to have a child with Nina.  Yes, of course.  God we'd have beautiful kids.

After swimming we took a taxi to supper at a beautiful tea house.  Tea in China is great.  So ritualistic and the tea is refreshing as well.  We had a few different dishes, one spicy beef with veggies, one whole chicken, head and all, cut into pieces, noodles...oh, we started the meal with these cool green egg shaped pastries.  You take the wrapper off the pastry, tear the top of it, it has the texture of warm bread and inside is darker green goo which is sweet like syrup.  Delicious.  Finger food.  They finally let me pay for supper.  My first time paying for anything since I've been here other than translator services.  Xin showed me what she sells - it looks like rackmount computers and systems so I think she makes a decent wage.  

After supper we went shopping and bought some sandals and some snack food (fruit and drinks).  Then we came back to the hotel room and looked at pictures of Nina on the internet, looked at tons of optical illusions, installed qq, joked and goofed around, generally had a great time.  Unfortunately, they both left me for the night.  I'm going to have to start getting more agressive I think.  

Nina (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/npridgeon/IMG_0318.jpg)
She's wearing the necklace I brought her.  Playing with her translator.
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: brett on August 20, 2009, 09:41:09 am
Great updates Chocolate Guy!

Nina is adorably cute, you must be the happiest guy on the planet, well apart from me when I find my special somebody :icon_cheesygrin:.

Nina is a nice name, and so is Xin, I would love a wife with an "X" in her name, how mysterious and intriguing. But the Chinese have a long tradition of taking English names when they move to the west - I went to school with a Cantonese girl called Sandra :dodgy:.
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Neil on August 20, 2009, 10:01:10 am
Well, Xin is pronounced Seen.  Hard to say properly in english.  Nina is no problem for both english and chinese.
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Post by: Ed W on August 20, 2009, 10:12:25 am
I also found them to be very non-judgemental. My extra 20lbs is in my gut and I'm a bit self concious about it as well, but they make you feel as if it doesnt exist.

I got a kick from your lady's name since my wife's name is Xindi. Even though she also has the western name Anne, I found that once I learned to pronounce her Chinese name correctly I didn't want to call her by her western name, although my kids always do.

Happy to hear your having such a wonderful time. I'm really missing China now...
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Neil on August 20, 2009, 10:37:17 am
Right, I think Xin is a beautiful name but she likes being called Nina.  I have friends that I've corrected a million times that still say Zin.
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Post by: Martin on August 20, 2009, 01:42:01 pm
Great update.  You are having a blast!  I am having a blast reading it!
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Neil on August 20, 2009, 05:41:20 pm
I talked with Mini on MSN tonight before bed.  She wants to know what I want to get Nina for her birthday (26th, Chinese Valentines day) so it has to be romantic.  I told her I want to marry her and I want to buy an engagement ring plus something else romantic.  Mini will buy her something pretty as well.  She also told me that Nini won't stay with me in the hotel until her birthday.  I understand of course.  

I woke up this morning feeling a little guilty.  If I marry this wonderful woman, what can I give her other than a child?  She has such a vivid, happy, beautiful life here.  It is almost like picking a beautiful flower from the forest and bringing it home.  I don't want that flower to wilt.  I wish there was a way I could move to China.  In fact, I think I will try to make that a priority.  I don't want to teach english, I'm an electrician.  Maybe I can learn Chinese well enough to find an electrician job here someday.  Maybe we'll stay in Canada until we have a baby then raise the baby here.  My daughters are 17 and 16 so will be grown by then.  

ok, couple more hours sleep I think.
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Post by: David5o on August 20, 2009, 06:40:57 pm
Neil,

As one electrical guy to another, DON'T devalue yourself!! If you think she is so happy in this idealic life you've painted here, why do you you think she started looking overseas for a man such as yourself? I take it you have told her everything about yourself and your situation? Well if you have she has made her choice....YOU!!
There was obviously something missing in her life, that was more important to her, than the life she is currently living... You are filling that missing critera, and she's happy that you are too...

These Chinese ladies are not silly or stupid Neil, they know what they want in there life. You can, (and sounds like you are) give this lady real LOVE, it's probably something she's never experienced in her adult life, and once found, she will be very reluctant to give away or abandon.

Sure you have to work things out between you, to find the best way of taking that new life forward, but believe me, if she loves you as much as it seems. She will do anything and everything to make that new life work for both of you. You need a short and a long term plan, try and be realistic when your making those plans between you. Remember, she will be expecting you to fulfil those plans once they have been argreed!!

This trip, just enjoy yourself with your lady, and try and get to know her, as much as you can. Don't just see her outward beauty, look far beyound that. Also recognise any not so good points, as well as the numerous good ones.
I'm not going to tell you how to suck eggs, i'm sure you'll do just fine working things out while your there.

Oh, one last thing, ....They sure do need GOOD Sparky's there mate, .....that is one thing i DO know about!!  haha!!

David......
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Post by: Brian Mc on August 20, 2009, 11:05:28 pm
Neil,

Excellent story!! So happy for you and Xin.  I look forward to reading your episodes so please keep it up, and yes as all the others have said she sure is a beauty!!

Best wishes from one Canuck to another, oh and as for teh neame thing, my preference would be her chinese name.

Regards

Brian
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Post by: Neil on August 29, 2009, 02:37:52 am
Hey guys.  Sorry about the lack of updates.  I've obviously been busy.  I'm home now.

I had the time of my life.  Nina and I are engaged.  I got down on one knee in front of our nieces (who have been calling me Uncle for the last few days) and gave Nina a ring.   I asked her later when she would like to get married and she said October 10, 2010.  Seemed a bit specific so she explained that it is 10/10/10 - perfect in Chinese.  So far away but so worth the wait.

She is everything I could have hoped for and so much more.  No word of a lie, she is the smartest woman I've met.  Smart as a whip.  She's funny, friendly, kind, gentle, beautiful, sexy...  perfect.  She will try her hardest to learn English in the coming months and I will have to work hard to learn Chinese as well.  It's the one thing I regret about my trip - that I couldn't understand the language.  We connected on every level though and I've been accepted by family and friends.  

I have so many awesome stories and some amazing pictures of Guilin and Yongshou to share.  I'll try to write a couple here soon but I've got a lot of work to do tonight before bed.  

I couldn't have done this without everyone here and their awesome support and encouragement and stories.  Thank you everyone.  Now the hard part starts.  We have a lot of work ahead of us and we have stopped dealing with the agency and Chnlove now.  She was quite upset that I was being charged 800 per day for the translator.  It was well worth the money to me, but she said she had given the agency a lot of money and they'll get no more from her or us.  

[attachment=590] so happy
[attachment=591] cute couple?
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: David E on August 29, 2009, 04:14:55 am
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I woke up this morning feeling a little guilty.  If I marry this wonderful woman, what can I give her other than a child?  


Neil

How about you give her EXACTLY what she wants....YOU :):):)

DavidE
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Post by: Scottish_Rob on August 29, 2009, 07:47:39 am
Congrats mate, well pleased for you

And she has a tattoo on her leg!!!...NOT that I was perving...lol:blush::angel:
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Post by: Irishman on August 29, 2009, 08:52:50 am
Neil those are great photos, just love the action in the first one, looks like a real beauty spot (in every way!).
She's very pretty you lucky chocolate man!
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Post by: Neil on August 29, 2009, 02:02:45 pm
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Congrats mate, well pleased for you

And she has a tattoo on her leg!!!...NOT that I was perving...lol:blush::angel:


Thanks Rob.  Yeah, I noticed a fair amount of tattoos while I was in China.  When we were swimming at the public pool there were 5 or 6 people with quite beautiful tattoos, not unlike what you would see in Canada.  China, she's a changin'.
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Martin on August 29, 2009, 09:00:03 pm
My wife has a tattoo as well.
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Voiceroveip on September 06, 2009, 07:51:43 am
And you're on the Chnlove testimonials already ... here (http://chnlove.com/testimonials/testimonials2.php?page=1&index=0)
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Neil on September 06, 2009, 08:32:33 am
Heh.  That's funny.  I noticed my girl's profile is no longer available.  I was so tempted to write a bad review of the translator but she really was a nice person so that's the nicest thing I could say.
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Post by: brett on September 06, 2009, 08:41:26 am
Wow, that's nice, Nina is really lovely.

I am sorry to say though that I am beginning to think I am now the luckiest man alive. My girl has sent me some more natural photos of her this morning and she looks like a model, no retouching required here! Her profile pictures don't really do her justice. On top of that she has a fantastic personality and a wonderful voice. I can't wait for our first real meeting next month!
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Post by: Arnold on September 06, 2009, 10:33:51 am
That sure is one moment I will never forget . The first meeting and EVERYTHING is going the way you wished it would go .
I will also take that Title of being the Luckiest Man Alive .:icon_cheesygrin:
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Post by: Scottish_Rob on September 06, 2009, 11:03:17 am
I will too when the day finally arrives...Hopefully :icon_biggrin:
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Post by: brett on September 06, 2009, 01:48:01 pm
Wow, there are lots of happy mans here :icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:.
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Post by: Rhonald on September 06, 2009, 05:19:55 pm
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And you're on the Chnlove testimonials already ... here (http://chnlove.com/testimonials/testimonials2.php?page=1&index=0)


Wow I see my wife's testimonial on the same page as Neil's. Two Canucks sharing the same page. Best wishes Neil - although I hear that I should not drink the water on your side of the Rockies - something about it being contaminated with Kokanee :icon_cheesygrin:
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Arnold on September 06, 2009, 06:41:25 pm
Very nice Rhonald , you Wife is a lovely Woman . I can not get over she teaches the GuZheng . Can she teach me through EMF's ???:blush:
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Neil on September 09, 2009, 01:27:28 am
Kokanee is rat pee.  I enjoyed Chinese beer more.

A small update, I finally was able to connect with Nina on qq today.  We have chatted on and off over the last week, but mostly while she was at work so it was infrequent and censored and often marred in translation errors.  Today she quit her job.  She wasn't happy there.  She wants to move to Guangzhou.  She has many friends there and is able to find a good job easily.  We chatted for 4 hours tonight.  We discussed family and marriage and the fact that her "heterosexual" friends are sad they lost their chances with her.  It seems I have won her from the hands of some influential people.  She has friends that are mistresses to rich men who bought them houses and cars.  She told me she doesn't care, rich or poor, just that she is happy and adored (which I do).  We even flirted a bit.  We also discussed my daughters who she would love to have come to our wedding.  We will see about that but it would be wonderful to have them with us.  She asked about my ex, she worried she would be hated.  I assured her she wouldn't and would probably meet her some day.  She refused to turn on her webcam because she hadn't left the bed yet.  I argued with her and she asserted her belief that she has the final say on small matters.  I tried to argue with her but she's right.  In the end, it was the most satisfying 4 hours since I've been home.  

Our chat included this sweet note:  ????????????,??????????????,????????????????!???????????!
Ah, Rhonald, that is a beautiful wife, beautiful picture and beautiful letter she wrote.  You are indeed a lucky man.
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: brett on September 09, 2009, 06:59:18 am
Wow, that's beautiful note. If my beloved wants to get married I am dreading the wedding, but mainly because my family just don't seem to be that interested in what I'm doing.

What kind of job does Nina do? I got my fingers burnt trying to suggest my beloved would like to do a different career, perhaps in China if you become one thing it's not the done thing to do something else.

Webcams are fun though. I will never forget the moment my beloved turned on her webcam and, bing, there she was! I was just so amazed at how beautiful she looked (her profile pictures haven't been photoshopped much), her voice is very sexy indeed, and she could speak much better English that she was letting on - what a huge bonus!
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: David5o on September 09, 2009, 08:09:50 am
Brett,

Believe me, ...You just don't know, or realize how much of a bonus it is, having your lady speak decent English. Many of the guys on here go through absolute torment with this language problem. Misunderstandings for a start will be greatly minimised, but alas not completely ..haha!!
Your relationship can move forward so much quicker, and with far better understanding than those that have to battle along with those dammed language problems....

I came across that many times in China, where Chinese (men and women) would consider there English as weak or poor, when in actual fact, it was more than adequate to hold a conversation. There are many ladies on chnlove that state on there profile ''learning'' when in fact they can get by speaking English at a simple level. Hard to weed them out from the rest though!! ...hahaha!!

David....
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: brett on September 09, 2009, 08:18:05 am
David5o, yes the chnlove English level thing is pretty worthless and can only really be determined via webcam.

I guess the ladies are sometimes modest about their level of English. Others can speak it much better than they can read or write. Some with video profiles are obviously just memorising key phrases, they probably don't have much idea of what the words mean. I think I am lucky in that my lady has a natural talent for languages - she mentioned that she picked up Cantonese by just working in Guangdong for a few months :huh:.

I'm still not sure how good my lady's English is, I think I would get her to sit the standard English test at some stage, then I will be able to ask my co-workers what sort of language tuition she would need to start with.
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Scottish_Rob on September 09, 2009, 09:20:37 am
Keren spoke to me about English the other day...She has said that her spoken English is getting much better than her written English...This will be a good thing, because my Mandarin is not coming along as well as I thought it would be:blush:

I suggested that she write to me and was told that 'it' takes her about 5 hours to write a long letter in English, that is because she has to look up all the words in the dictionary.  so I told her to write to me in Chinese and that i would get it translated ok...:icon_biggrin:
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Rhonald on September 09, 2009, 10:41:43 am
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Ah, Rhonald, that is a beautiful wife, beautiful picture and beautiful letter she wrote.  You are indeed a lucky man.


Thanks Neil, I must say your finacee is very charming looking as well. Do you get good audio from your webcam sessions? The video feed is okay but sometimes freezes while our audio is very hit or miss. Thus we usually don't bother turning it on and just use video and typing.

My wife also is worried about my ex. I still like the joke I posted previously on the old face book site - I miss my Ex but my aim is improving:icon_cheesygrin:
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: David5o on September 09, 2009, 10:55:25 am
Brett,

Don't knock those chnlove video's too much, they give a perfect example of the amount of photoshopping that goes on at these agencies, The differences are sometimes truly amazing, you would never of guessed that they were the same person in the agency photo's!!  ...hahahaha!!

Hahaha, ...your going to make her sit a standard English test, now that should be something to see!!
The way you came out with it, just made me roll up here!! ...lol!!  

David....
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Neil on September 09, 2009, 06:36:56 pm
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Wow, that's beautiful note. If my beloved wants to get married I am dreading the wedding, but mainly because my family just don't seem to be that interested in what I'm doing.

What kind of job does Nina do? I got my fingers burnt trying to suggest my beloved would like to do a different career, perhaps in China if you become one thing it's not the done thing to do something else.



Nina's in sales.  She can strike up a conversation with anyone and is very easy to talk to, very smart and has a good sense of humor.  

Quote from: 'Rhonald'

Do you get good audio from your webcam sessions? The video feed is okay but sometimes freezes while our audio is very hit or miss. Thus we usually don't bother turning it on and just use video and typing.


I tried talking and she could hear me fine, but I couldn't hear her at all.  I thought maybe it was a setting I missed but maybe it was just a bad audio connection.  I hope we can get around that.  She has the sweetest voice.
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: MLM on September 09, 2009, 11:31:29 pm
Brett, David is right, your lady speaking English will help move your relationship forward at a high speed with little problems, I said little not without any problems but it does help a lot, when I met Zhou she spoke very good English and our relationship moved forward at a great amount of speed, I learned in one month what takes some of the guys here 3 or 4 months to get, if she can write basic English then you can stop the EMF's and use them only for important things or deep or fine points.
Good luck and best wishes.
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Arnold on September 10, 2009, 12:03:50 am
Haha , that reminds me ... why do it the easy way ... when you can do it the hard way ?:angel:
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Rhonald on September 10, 2009, 05:06:26 am
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I tried talking and she could hear me fine, but I couldn't hear her at all.  I thought maybe it was a setting I missed but maybe it was just a bad audio connection.  I hope we can get around that.  She has the sweetest voice.


Yes similar problem for us at times. Try talking and when you want to hear her reply, mute your mic. By switching back and forth like this we could communicate by voice. I found this iratating so usually don't bother. But like you, sometimes I wish to hear her voice so I enable audio for a while to be serenaded by her voice.
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: brett on September 10, 2009, 05:25:37 am
If you're using Skype it sometimes helps if you alternate who calls who.
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Neil on September 10, 2009, 08:03:52 pm
So, today I went to my lawyer and got my divorce order.  It occurred to me that I'm not sure what I need to do next to prepare to get married.  I know I have 14 months but I should start to prepare for that day as soon as possible.  It looks like I can't start the immigration process until we're married, is that right Rhonald and Martin?
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Arnold on September 11, 2009, 12:11:51 am
Neil , I wanted to help you so bad , but I realized your from Canada and what do I know about those Law's ? Well , not enough to give you an accurate answer . Sorry .
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Neil on September 11, 2009, 12:19:40 am
That's ok Arnold.  Your support is greatly appreciated.  Luckily I have plenty of time to get all my ducks in a row.  It would be nice to do this without spending a fortune, but I will do whatever it takes.
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Rhonald on September 11, 2009, 03:38:58 pm
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It would be nice to do this without spending a fortune, but I will do whatever it takes.


You might not spend a fortune but you will spend alot of time :-/ The waiting is a killer.
Inorder to start the immigration processes you have to apply under one of three catagories: Family class, skilled trade class, or student/visitor. Unless you can get a visitor visa for her (very unlikely since she needs to convince immigration that she has good reasons to return to China) then you have to wait to marry her to start the processes -family class. Also unfortunately, immigration does not view her skill in keeping you happy and content, as a skill trade. If you or she has the money - then hey - why not have her go to school here. Just an idea.
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: heckerd on September 11, 2009, 06:18:38 pm
You need to get a single certificate notarized by the Chinese consulate. You need your divorce papers, single declaration and current marital status notarized. Then send it to the Chinese consulate for a single certificate or go in person. You need your single certificate to be translated also which can be done in China. The single certificate is only good for 6 months.

To start the immigration process you need to be married first. You don''t need a lawyer to help you with the immigration application. They just check to see if everything is filled out correctly and have the supporting documents. A waste of money if  you ask me.  Just take your time with the application. All the documents you need for the application will be on Canada's immigration website.

Before you get married keep all phone receipts, email, phone logs and even chat logs even if you chat by webcam it will log it as receiving or answering a call on the log. Keep all travel records (plane tickets stub, hotel receipts, etc) including any gift receipt you purchase for her in China. On your next trip to China when you marry her bring the immigration paper work with you so you can help her fill them out in China as she need to sign off on some documents. Print off extra copies in case. Also make sure your wife get a medical examination to be submitted  along with the immigration application, You can check on the Canadian immigration website on where it the authorize area that can do the medical examination. That way you do not have to send her the documents and then wait for them to be mailed back to you.
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: chen yan on November 28, 2009, 03:43:34 am
She has such a vivid, happy, beautiful life here. It is almost like picking a beautiful flower from the forest and bringing it home. I don't want that flower to wilt. I wish there was a way I could move to China.

Our chat included this sweet note: ????????????,??????????????,????????????????!???????????!

Chocolate man, Above words from your couple call back my fancy of love and tears again

By the way, Ocotober 10 you are going to marry is my birthday.hehe
Title: RE: luckiest man alive
Post by: Neil on November 28, 2009, 08:32:00 am
Haha.  Thank you Chen Yan.  I really do love her.  Being apart for such a long time is very difficult.  I wish the day would come quickly.