China Romance
All About China => Your trip to China => Topic started by: Gautam on April 05, 2009, 02:01:50 pm
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If anyone cares I will be in Shenyang from the 7th for a week and thought I would try the New World Hotel for a change.
This time I am going to meet a lady I have been writing to for a while and in her words to see "if we have the same feeling" when we meet.
I have been very close but never actually scammed yet and there is one agency in Shenyang I would not trust at all. I will find out more during my visit
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Hi, I was there last Nov. The New World Hotel is very nice. Just don't drink anything from the bar fridge or the expensive teabags, they'll charge you an arm. They have regular tea at no charge. The washroom have all the toiletries so you only have to bring your toothbrush.
Excellent dumplings at the Majia Shaomai Guan & San Sheng Yuan Dumplings Restaurant ... 10 minutes walking distance from your hotel. 10 minutes north of your hotel is the cheap outdoor market & underground market & also the modern department store with a movie theatre & large food court on the 7th floor. A two minute walk west from your hotel is an excellent bakery where you can buy a box of assorted pastries for your lady's parents for the first meeting.
If you're flying to Beijing first, make sure you have a 2 hr break btwn connecting flights. I almost missed mine because I arrived one hour late into Beijing. You have to get your check-in bag and change terminals.
What agency name is it ??? I or Vince may have dealt with them.
Chong
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Thanks Chong very helpful information. The agency is called LaioNing YangGuang Overseas Affairs Service Company. They seem to be very helpful and I am sure they are seeing $$$$.
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Yeah, I dealt with that agency ... on the business card was written "Liaoning YangGuang Abroad Service Co. Ltd".
Info : No. 1 Beiwujing Street, Heping District tel # : 86-24-22865575
Here's some inside information :
1) the Supervisor Chao Chen is actually the son-in-law of the owner of the agency 8-)
2) at the airport, they'll photograph & videotape your meeting your lady :roll:
3) your lady's initial cost to sign up is 10,000 yuan, they'll probably charge her your visitation fee :o
and ......
4) Here's the kicker, the marriage fee payable by your lady is 60,000 yuan for an American citizen ( 50,000 for a Canadian ) :evil:
Alone with your lady, I would discuss this privately ... I would barter way down if forced to paid. In my case, I had no chemistry with the lady I visited, so it didn't reach this stage.
At any point, feel free to send me a private email through this forum if you have any questions.
All The Best, Chong
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Vince
This is the agency I am using. You have ID: p612. Is this your ladys ID or the agency number. This same number that I have and thought it was the ladys ID number. Is her name Linda? I cant hardly believe two guys would meet up here talking the same girl of so many but hell that would be my luck!
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Yeah, this info really scares me. $50,000 Yuan = 10,000 Canadian. Where am I gonna come up with that kinda cash?
:shock:
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Neil ... you don't have to ... tell the agency your lady's not paying. After bartering and playing hardball ( your lady may cry because of the possibility that you won't marry her ) you can bring it down to 10,000 yuan/ 5,000 yuan or even less. Of course, your lady have to know of your tactic beforehand.
or ...
you and your lady can fake it and pretend that the relationship is over, then without the agency's knowledge ... marry and process your spousal visa on your own without their help.
Bear in mind, that each agency have different contracts.
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50,000 seems like a huge amount, I think they would settle for a lot less if you played hard ball. Personally I'd get to the writing emails and msn stage before firming up on any visits in an emf.....
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Hey Chong, you got a better reception than I did. I didn't get any video tape ceremony at the airport. I also dealt with the same agency, LiaoNing YangGuang Overseas Affairs Service Company. I was picked up by a couple of people including my girl. One was a translator (Chao could not make it) and an older lady, If i recall, was the owner? She drove a BMW X5. She must have some coin to be driving that in China. I guess these fees that they get from the ladies pays for it. Anyways, things did not work out for me. She was nice but I dont think she was interested.
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Vince thanks for the inside scoop I will be meeting them tomorrow as I arrive late and will go directly to the hotel - the video will be interesting and I am sure they are counting the $$$$$ as I write this. Will have to plan tactics with my lady - will keep you guys in on the news as it happens
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Vince
Yes I went through the profiles and even figured out the lady you were talking too last night. We are talking to two ladys from the same huge town from the same agency with the same first three digits in their ID number. Do you think they could live next door to each other as well? haha Like they say at Diesny its a small world after all! Maybe we could all meet there someday. I think if you tell them to shove it in english they will get the meaning!!
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Vince
This is the agency I am using. You have ID: p612. Is this your ladys ID or the agency number. This same number that I have and thought it was the ladys ID number. Is her name Linda? I cant hardly believe two guys would meet up here talking the same girl of so many but hell that would be my luck!
Um, I was talking to a girl named Linda from that agency for 7 months which ended just about 6 weeks ago or so. If she's 21 years old, pop me a PM. It's possible it's not the same girl but if it is maybe we should talk.
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Not the same girl. :) I've been with Song since August and she's 39. A 21 year old? My daughter is 23. I don't think it would go over to well. :D
LOL, not you Vince, I meant Kenny but we figured it out and thankfully it is just a coincidence and it is not the same girl. :)
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Hi Everyone,
I'm Don and I just joined this group. Didn't know it was here until I was digging around on the CHN forum tonight. I see you talking about some of the agencies. I'm headed for Shenyang on the 20th. The agency I'm dealing with is CiMengYuan International Marriage Service Co., Ltd . Anyone know anything about this agency. They are to meet me at the airport with my lady. She says there is no charge, but now I'm wondering if my lady is being charged for it. By the way, I'm staying at the Grand Century. It's all new to me. Looking forward to the "Grand Adventure".
I'll let you know how it turns out.
Thanks
Don
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Guys I am back from my adventure very interesting and am writing all about it and will post it up in the next few days.
I know all the agencies and if anyone needs to know about them then I will send them a private mail
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I am not sure where this best section this best fits into but as I started this in My Trip to China here I continue......
So I was there from the 7th to the 13th.
Purpose: to confirm that the lady I was writing to was the lady of my dreams
Stayed: New World Hotel, Nanjing Nan Jie - in the centre of town and cost me $40/day 4 star
Day1:P Arrived late in the evening and told everyone I would meet them first thing the next morning rather. Taxi cost me RM 70.
Day2: Mr Cao from the agency brought the lady to meet me and as I have met him before it was fairly relaxed. The lady however seemed to look slightly different from the photos and web cam - no matter still good.
15 minutes later Mr Cao left us to it and we decided to have breakfast - local and as it was unseasonal hot a walk was what i needed.
Out of the hotel and she took my hand in hers - well this one is for the album; fast worker!!!
Breakfast and she announces she would like to look at computers - Red Flag and I think why not it will be fun and we spend a happy 2 hours in Gome while I tell her the history of the chairman of Gome and his downfall. I sense boredom but continue as I am in full swing.
Now she is a bit tired and want to have a rest so we go back to the hotel while she lies down and I think - must send a telegraph to the chaps and ask for advice!!!
Best play it straight and see what she does - and the interesting mating game starts. It appears that I need to get intimate as this is standing in the way of important matters and as I am a bit slow I am wondering what this can be. I soon discover it is shopping.
So in mid afternoon we walk down the department store and she buys - face mask, mud, perfume and some thing else in a bottle. I dont mind as it is a good exchange but want to see what happens next.
well it was dinner - big fish for her which she could not possibly finish and a modest plate of noodles for me which I could most definitely finish
On to bed and a sweltering night as the hotel has switched the air con off and they are going with "fresh air" - what are they talking about??
Day 2 the 9th
As soon as we are up it is breakfast and down to the shops in the opposite direction to where we went the previous day and it is anti wrinkle cream and some other tubes which I really had no interest in looking at but when we went past a handbag shop she threw herself into it and tried to drag me in behind her. Not my thing and I waited for her outside the shop.
Our first fight ensued - I checked - 27 hours after we met. Actually it was not a fight as much as she accused me of not wanting to shop with her and I agreed - so she sulked.
33 hours after we meet she needs to go home to change but gives me a shopping list of what she needs - 2 pairs of Nike shoes from the concept store @RM1K/ pair and Nike outfit. Yes my thought precisely and by now I have had enough.
She goes off and i decide for the big test (yes yes) I ask her to take the money she need for a cab to her place and back from my wallet and she takes it all - lucky I only had RM600 in it.
Now I decide to make alternative arrangements and call my friends from Laioning University and Shenyang Normal University; when she returns I inform her we need to reassess the situation and we can discuss in the morning - yes I am a coward and hate confrontations. I drop her home and go on to dinner
day 3 10th Enough!! and I call her and tell her but my Chinese is not really up to complicated diplomatic explanations and her comprehension in English disappear. Interesting discussion ensues and in the end she still wants to go shopping.
I call Mr Chao and ask her to explain to her that we were not suited as her first love is my first hate. Interesting he tries to convince me to keep seeing her for the duration of my stay - haha I wonder why, and I decline as a matter of honor and he then decides to find me another babe
I see friends and we have a great time
the rest of my time there was spent with friends and having big noisy dinners and lots of beer...
One thing I should mention and while we were on a shopping trip I bumped into a teacher of mine and she asked me to call her - first time she ever gave me her phone number; We had dinner and unfortunately it was on the 12th.. but we spent a very nice 6 hours together and she did let me into a secret that she always admired me and I told her that I always found her eyes attractive.
So I will be going back and I wonder if my loashi is the One....the glass was half full, then nearly empty and now more than half full.
All sorts of phases come to mind - when one door ........; what the Lord taketh .......; When you are least expecting......
I can go on but you have heard enough of this trip - Come May come the next trip and who know what the future holds.
A big thanks to Mr Chong - you are a fountain of information and a big help and if I can return this in any way please let me know
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Gautam ... quite a trip & story !!! Did you have any indication ( based on your letters ) or suspect that the lady would turn out like that ?? :o
Just like Irish, you may have found your future lady by luck, coincidence and good timing. Like lots of other guys, a woman's "eyes" are the first attraction. Good for you and her if this develops further. At least, you don't have to deal with any of the ChnLove & agency 'BS'.
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Wow, I was going OMG reading that until the last bit where you pulled it all back, glad to hear that you have a Chinese future ahead still to look forward to .
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Mr Chong .......I expected some "shopping" but not the excessive burn rate of RM2K/day. I had a feeling that this would accelerate over the duration of my visit. But it is better to find out now that at more substantial cost later.
I keep think I may have done her an injustice but the more I examine even in retrospect I feel it was completely the right decision. Funny thing though - I pride myself as being a good judge of character - another thing that needs reviewing.
I will be back in Shenyang in June for a month and I will have to think carefully about my startegy. The new one is lovely and charming and she could really turn me inside out. I am positive and will approch it with as they say "an open heart"
If anyone is going to be in Shenyang June/July please let me know
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I have to agree with you gautam about buying stuff for the lady i mean giveing you a list of what stuff she wants and all that deff takeing the p-ss dont get me wong i would treet the lady to whats she after but the way she was going about it and lets face it you think she want to take you somewere nice not the shops first off
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lol vince.
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Hey Vince when are you going to Shenyang? I will make sure I am there as well ......I want to see the aftermath of the NO! lol.....
By the way chaps it is only fair that I should share this with you - ladies in China now want a laptop - to talk to you ofcourse..so best buy this in the US if you are from there as it is cheaper - dont know about Canada, for the Brits and the Aussies maybe cheaper in China or pick one up duty free in Hong Kong.
I reckon the local brand Netbook is good enough and it is RM2,100 maybe 2K with good negotiation but really I want to be there when Vince is manouvering his babe to the local brand away from the Sony VIAO P lol -
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where in Shenyang will your second home be?