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All About China => Understanding Chinese Women => Topic started by: mpo on September 02, 2009, 11:42:55 pm

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Title: RE: Scrape the Sand
Post by: Arnold on September 03, 2009, 12:21:39 am
Mike , it sounds to me like that treatment ... where they rub that lotion ( that feels like it has sand in it ) all over your Body , to take away your dead skin or the top layer of your skin . It really leave's you very smooth afterward's . I think that is what this is going to be .
Title: RE: Scrape the Sand
Post by: Vince G on September 03, 2009, 12:28:24 am
She's rubbing him out?  :huh:
Title: RE: Scrape the Sand
Post by: maxx on September 03, 2009, 01:04:59 am
I know what your talking about now.I have seen it done.I refused to let them try it on me.My wife swears by it.
Title: RE: Scrape the Sand
Post by: ahkiwi on September 03, 2009, 01:45:08 am
Cupping (http://www.itmonline.org/arts/cupping.htm)

I've seen it before but not heard of it by the name Scrape the Sand.

A bit like acupuncture without the needles.
Title: RE: Scrape the Sand
Post by: zook144 on September 03, 2009, 03:11:44 am
Is this anything like you saw?

Sorry for large photo!
Don
Title: RE: Scrape the Sand
Post by: Irishman on September 03, 2009, 07:13:39 am
Eww, looks like mumbo jumbo to me. A bit like a colon cleanse - some people seem to think its does them good but personally its just seems like masochism.
No way would I have that done to me, just because it hurts afterwards doesn't mean its really doing any good!
Title: RE: Scrape the Sand
Post by: raymond- on September 04, 2009, 03:34:02 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm_GgmxTeWI
Title: RE: Scrape the Sand
Post by: shaun on September 04, 2009, 04:48:44 am
Wouldn't we all feel better if out girls just walked on out back?
Title: RE: Scrape the Sand
Post by: MLM on September 06, 2009, 09:35:11 am
Mike on my last trip to China I was convinced that this would make me feel great so I tryed it, I never heard of it called this before but thats what I felt like by the next day, now they can't pay me to do that again
Title: RE: Scrape the Sand
Post by: maxx on September 06, 2009, 02:11:50 pm
I'm like you guys.I tried it a little one day.It is not a pleasent experience.I would never go back and do it again.
Title: RE: Scrape the Sand
Post by: Vince G on September 06, 2009, 05:49:22 pm
Some years ago I saw a short documentary about it. I wasn't in a rush to try it then either. They said in the end it didn't do anything. It was hocus-pocus.
Title: RE: Scrape the Sand
Post by: David on September 28, 2009, 03:23:15 pm
It looks like some type of torture from the inquisition!:blush:

I would definately never try this...

Big Dave
Title: RE: Scrape the Sand
Post by: MLM on September 28, 2009, 05:39:38 pm
Quote from: 'David' pid='18407' dateline='1254165795'

It looks like some type of torture from the inquisition!:blush:

I would definately never try this...

Big Dave


David, let me tell you, the next day, it felt like those priests had got a hold of me to, I was a big bruise and it was hard to lean back in a chair.
Don't ever do this, unless of course you are into pain:icon_cheesygrin:
Title: RE: Scrape the Sand
Post by: David E on September 28, 2009, 06:14:17 pm
Some interesting thoughts about "cupping"

25 years ago I had a major series of operations on my wrist and hand. The surgeon told me that to repair the damage they had to sever some important nerves, resulting in the effect that the whole back of my hand and part of my thunb was completely without feeling.

I was told that this was permanent and that nerves of this type dont re-grow.

I got used to this for 22 years.

On one of my China visits, the translator told me that cupping can fix this problem and advised me to go and get it done.

To cut a long story short, I went, got it done and within 4 weeks the feeling returned in my hand.

I went to my Doctor and demonstrated the result...he said it was impossible !!!!

But it worked !!!

DavidE
Title: Re: Scrape the Sand
Post by: ttwjr32 on June 28, 2010, 02:29:45 am
i tried this several times for my back and shoulder and it worked wonders for me
Title: Re: Scrape the Sand
Post by: Paul Todd on June 28, 2010, 05:58:27 am
We have a of do it yourself  cupping kit at home. It has several different size glass "Cup's" and a suction pump to remove the air. My wife swears by it but it does leave a nasty red circle on your skin for a few weeks. I have never tried it but with the reports here I may have to take the whole idea more seriously. China never ceases to amaze me.
Title: Re: Scrape the Sand
Post by: ttwjr32 on June 28, 2010, 08:50:18 am
we do to have one at home and my wife gets me to use it and it has worked wonders sometimes

give it a try Paul you might be quite surprised  according to Sara if it gets really red then that is why
your having a problem   and it needed to be done
Title: Re: Scrape the Sand
Post by: temur72 on June 28, 2010, 07:19:50 pm
I believe  Gywneth (sp) Paltow uses Cupping as well

Plenty of old traditional medical  practices work, from the different herbs that have been used to cupping and acupunture by the looks of it.


As for why cupping or acupunture work I dont know, but as it has been done for thousands of years, I expect that it does
Title: Re: Scrape the Sand
Post by: Okie_Rob on June 28, 2010, 11:39:29 pm
I had this fire cupping done to me, the last time I was in China or last March/April of this year.  The cupping was on my back ... placed in strategic places.  When was all over ... looked like I had about a dozen giant hickeys all over my back.  Some of them were rather tender for a few days ... for took about 5 or more days for the dark redness to go away

Fire cupping
Fire cupping is a method of applying acupressure by creating a vacuum next to the patent's skin. In traditional Chinese medicine (TCM) it involves placing glass, plastic, or bamboo cups on the skin with a vacuum. The therapy is used to relieve what is called "stagnation" in TCM terms, and is used in the treatment of respiratory diseases such as the common cold, pneumonia, and bronchitis. Cupping is also used to treat back, neck, shoulder, and other musculoskeletal pain. Its advocates claim it has other applications as well. This technique, in varying forms, has also been found in the folk medicine of Vietnam, the Balkans, modern Greece, Mexico, and Russia, among other places, including Iran where it is called 'bod-kesh' meaning literally 'pull with air'.
Title: Re: Scrape the Sand
Post by: Paul Todd on June 29, 2010, 01:24:43 am
Very informative,Thanks Rob.
Title: Re: Scrape the Sand
Post by: Paul Todd on June 30, 2010, 08:56:51 am
I am quite intrigued by this. I had sort of dismissed the whole thing as being just another one of  the odd things Chinese people think is good for them. But I think I might give it ago!

Description of Cupping

Acupuncturists use cupping to stimulate acupuncture points by applying suction through a glass cup, for specific problems in the flow of qi, or life energy.  Cupping disperses and moves qi by exerting suction and pressure.  Cupping is used when the qi is blocked at certain points, or when qi needs to be drawn to the surface of the body from deep within.
Patients usually lie down for a cupping treatment.  Cups are made of strong glass.  To create a vacuum, a flame from a burning cotton ball is placed in an upside-down cup.  When the oxygen in the cup is burned off, the cup is placed directly on the skin, where it is held in place by a surprisingly strong suction, which then draws the skin up around the cup, under the cup.  The cotton ball is remained outside and the temperature is not high; usually the patients won’t be burned.
The skin is redden with strong cupping, indicating that circulation has been brought to the surface.  The sensation of cupping is often characterized as deep warmth and tingling, long after the treatment has ended.  Cupping is generally a painless procedure.

Benefits of Cupping

By creating suction and negative pressure, cupping has been found to affect the body up to four inches into the tissues, which is used to treat muscle pain and spasms, drain excess fluids and toxins, loosen adhesion's, connective tissue and stubborn knots in soft tissue, stimulate blood circulation and bring blood flow to nourish stagnant muscles and skin, enhance the flow of energy, stimulate the peripheral nervous system, activate the lymphatic system, clear colon blockages, help activate and clear the arteries, veins, and capillaries, and improve varicose veins.

Cupping draws the inflammation out, yet does not add to it.

Variations of Cupping

Stationary cupping usually leaves cups in the same place for several minutes.  Cups are sometimes placed over Acupuncture needles that have been inserted to take the advantages of both Acupuncture and Cupping therapies simultaneously.  Moving cupping, after applying small amount of oil to the skin to facilitate the cupping movement, the cups are glided over the surface of the skin.  The cups may stay for a short time on stubborn knots or over inflamed joints or tissue.
Cupping has also been adapted and duplicated by modern lymphatic drainage machines.

Massage Cupping

According to traditional Chinese medicine, the flow of qi travels throughout the body in channels called “Meridians”.  Meridians are the conduits in the body through which energy flows to every part of the body and through every organ and tissue.  Illness is caused when qi is blocked at certain points or it does not move properly in the body.  When Meridians are opened, invigorating energy is traveling the whole length of the body. 

Combining the moving cupping and the theory of meridians, massage cupping therapy has been further developed as a means to open the Meridians of the body.  The stagnated, weak, or out of balanced qi can be dispersed or moved by exerting suction and pressure of massage cupping.  Massage cupping can also be used when qi needs to be drawn to the surface of the body from deep within to nourish muscles and skin. 

The massage cupping therapy has the advantages of both cupping and deep massage therapies.  In spite of causing local congestion and blood stasis temporarily, massage cupping is not an irritant to the skin or body.

Precautions

Since cupping is a safe and non-invasive technique, there are very few conditions in which cupping should not be used, such as high fever, skin disease, tendency to bleed easily, or to the abdominal and sacral regions of pregnant women.

Side effects of Cupping

Cupping causes blood to be drawn to the surface of the skin, which can cause non permanent red marks, swelling, and bruising at the local area for 2- 4 days.

Title: Re: Scrape the Sand
Post by: Scottish_Rob on September 14, 2010, 02:22:28 am
Sophie done this to me after my Acupuncture on my shoulder.  Mind you the 'Cup' were quite small, it was not painful except at first when they start to'draw' the skin up.  Leaves marks for a couple of days..But that's it.. :D  Helped tremendously