China Romance
All About China => Your trip to China => Topic started by: Brian Mc on September 28, 2009, 12:52:53 pm
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Greetings Brothers,
As you all are aware I recently returned from China engaged to my love Zhen. We are planning on marrying in the new year as we have to wait for my divorce to be final and then get the certificate of single required by the Chinese end to marry.
Our plan is that I would go to China to live and get a position teaching english for a couple years then we would come back to Canada to live. Everything at that point was based on waiting for the divorce then getting the certificate of single then coming to China.
Well things have changed!! Thanks to some great advice and help, especially from Paul Todd and Scottish Rob things are about to progress sooner than expected. Paul told me to check with the Canadian Embassy in Beijing regarding the certificate of Single and it appears that I can do that over in Beijing!!
What this means is there is no specific reason to stay in Canada and wait for my divorce once I sign the paperwork required to do the divorce petition, which I should be signing this week. So unless my lawyer can come up with something that requires my presence here in Canada I am planning to move to China by the end of October!!
Yes thats right pack up my life and move to China to be with Zhen before the end of October. This was going to happen in early 2010 anyway so its really only a jump of a couple months. I think also it will be easier to find a teaching position if I am in country to do the looking. I have some funds available to cover me until I can find work there so I wont be a total financial ruin if this doesnt work.
While I understand its a leap of faith and all that, I feel since I was going to do it anyway what is the point of waiting? So basically I am going to take the next couple of weeks to settle my affairs, drive my effects to BC to my sister who will store them for me, visit with the family for a few days, then of to my Zhen.
While we still cannot get married until my divorce is final and I get the cert of single we should be able to do it before the end of this year, unless we specifically decide to wait for feb14 2010 date we had already set.
So as has been said by others like China Shark Mike make the leap of faith and with any luck things will work out well. Since there seems to be a shortage of English teachers over there anyway I think it will be a good move. I have no restrictions as to which city to work in, although I would prefer Handan since that is where Zhen is currently living. However I will accept any position, anywhere in the country and then once married Zhen will move to wherever I am working and we will go from there.
So there it is the new plan. Ever since I returned to Canada I have been wondering why I was being parted from Zhen for so long. Now that the main reasons are hopefully eliminated I see no point in waiting. I will go directly to Handan and get an apartment while I look for work so that I will be close to Zhen and then move as required from there.
Zhen and I had an hour and a half webcam this morning and discussed this and she is in full agreement with it, so I think with her support and network of friends and family I should be able to make this work. I also asked the son RuiChen who is 15 now about his opinion of this and he is also supportive, so again no reason or issue not to go. I will also do a power of attorney paper for my sister just in case something does come up and she can look after it.
So if everything goes right in the next couple of weeks I am planning to return to China for a couple years on or about the 19th of October.
Any thoughts or issues I may have overlooked would be welcomed so I dont totally destroy my life hehe.
Regards,
Zhen and Brian
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Congratulations Brian, i'm looking to do something similar to you.
I have done a LOT of reading-up on what jobs laowai can get in China , and unless you have some really high powered job in the west already chances are you are going to do the TEFL thing.
In China you can get work fairly easily with any old TEFL cert or even none. But almost without exception the better paying ones want the "CELTA" certification (http://www.cambridgeesol.org/exams/teaching-awards/celta.html) issued by the University of Cambridge.
This is, by all accounts I've read, a pretty tough month of hell to get but it is recognised world wide as the de facto standard.
Realistically if you want to progress from the entry level roles and in time to managerial roles this is going to become essential. You can do this course all over the world in registered centres, for example i plan on doing mine in Beijing (Certificate in English Language Teaching to Adults - is an English course so of course is thought in English everywhere).
I don't want to put a dampener on your ambitions but i think you really really should consider doing this even if it means going there a month later..on a teaching salary in China its going to be damn hard to afford to go on it later..do it first ..do it right.
You don't have to do it but i think it will open door that would otherwise be closed in the future, kinda like the degree i utterly hated doing but my parents made me do..it has gotten me many jobs over the years that needed a degree even if it was irrelevant to the work.
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Greetings Brothers,
As you all are aware I recently returned from China engaged to my love Zhen. We are planning on marrying in the new year as we have to wait for my divorce to be final and then get the certificate of single required by the Chinese end to marry.
Our plan is that I would go to China to live and get a position teaching english for a couple years then we would come back to Canada to live. Everything at that point was based on waiting for the divorce then getting the certificate of single then coming to China.
Well things have changed!! Thanks to some great advice and help, especially from Paul Todd and Scottish Rob things are about to progress sooner than expected. Paul told me to check with the Canadian Embassy in Beijing regarding the certificate of Single and it appears that I can do that over in Beijing!!
What this means is there is no specific reason to stay in Canada and wait for my divorce once I sign the paperwork required to do the divorce petition, which I should be signing this week. So unless my lawyer can come up with something that requires my presence here in Canada I am planning to move to China by the end of October!!
Yes thats right pack up my life and move to China to be with Zhen before the end of October. This was going to happen in early 2010 anyway so its really only a jump of a couple months. I think also it will be easier to find a teaching position if I am in country to do the looking. I have some funds available to cover me until I can find work there so I wont be a total financial ruin if this doesnt work.
While I understand its a leap of faith and all that, I feel since I was going to do it anyway what is the point of waiting? So basically I am going to take the next couple of weeks to settle my affairs, drive my effects to BC to my sister who will store them for me, visit with the family for a few days, then of to my Zhen.
While we still cannot get married until my divorce is final and I get the cert of single we should be able to do it before the end of this year, unless we specifically decide to wait for feb14 2010 date we had already set.
So as has been said by others like China Shark Mike make the leap of faith and with any luck things will work out well. Since there seems to be a shortage of English teachers over there anyway I think it will be a good move. I have no restrictions as to which city to work in, although I would prefer Handan since that is where Zhen is currently living. However I will accept any position, anywhere in the country and then once married Zhen will move to wherever I am working and we will go from there.
So there it is the new plan. Ever since I returned to Canada I have been wondering why I was being parted from Zhen for so long. Now that the main reasons are hopefully eliminated I see no point in waiting. I will go directly to Handan and get an apartment while I look for work so that I will be close to Zhen and then move as required from there.
Zhen and I had an hour and a half webcam this morning and discussed this and she is in full agreement with it, so I think with her support and network of friends and family I should be able to make this work. I also asked the son RuiChen who is 15 now about his opinion of this and he is also supportive, so again no reason or issue not to go. I will also do a power of attorney paper for my sister just in case something does come up and she can look after it.
So if everything goes right in the next couple of weeks I am planning to return to China for a couple years on or about the 19th of October.
Any thoughts or issues I may have overlooked would be welcomed so I dont totally destroy my life hehe.
Regards,
Zhen and Brian
Brian,
Congratulations! One thing you might check on. One question you will need to ask yourself before you proceed. Does your attorney represent you or your soon to be ex? In other words if you are using the same attorney and she did the initiation and is paying the bill, find another attorney to do this. What you need to check on is once you have signed the papers is it final. In America it is only the beginning of the end. There is a 31 day period before it is final, at any point in the 31 days either party can change their mind and contest or re-file.
If that is the case you may want to stay in Canada until the waiting period is over just to keep things from becoming very complicated. Personally I would not like having to come back to face another legal issue with my ex. The last 31 days of mine I was the most complacent person you could find in North America. If she invited herself over to a event that the children and I were having I said welcome... enjoy yourself... eat what you want. After the 31 days, who invited you? Not that this actually happened but that I am trying to give you an idea.
If you go off before a period comes to an end, and again I have no idea what the laws are like in Canada, your ex and her attorney could make thinks quite difficult for you.
Food for thought.
Shaun
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Greetings Brothers,
Irish, thanks for the heads up on the course, it is a good idea. Our plan is for me to teach there long enough for RuiChen to finish high school then we are coming back to Canada. So the teaching thing should be only for at most 3 years. If it looks like it will become an issue I will certainly get a TESL course done while I am there.
Shaun no worries there my friend, we both have our own laywer, have had right from the start, so unless the EX decides to get really spiteful then it shouldnt be an issue. However as there is also my daughter Emma in the picture it would not be a smart thing for the ex to stir up any more trouble than we already have. The only one who really suffers when parents fight and cause grief for each other is the children, and we have tried hard not to cause Emma any more grief than necessary.
So hopefully the petition goes according to plan, we can get through the waiting period and then we are good.
Thanks again guys for te thoughts and help, much appreciated.
Reards,
Zhen and Brian
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Veru pleased to hear the news mate...You need ANYTHING get back to me ok...:icon_biggrin:
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Hey that's a happy outlook! Congratulations, I'm happy for you ... and keep herding :icon_sad:
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Well done that man!:icon_cheesygrin:
Glad to here your making the move over here Brian, I bet Zhen was over the moon when you told her. Yes it's a leap of faith but it's not like you haven't done it before! I expect you will find work in Handan fairly easily, its a university town and all those students want to practice there pronunciation at 100 yuan an hour, I'm sure you will survive hehe hehe, with or without that TEFL cert, You can do it online over here anyway so no need to hang around ! Here by the end of October, man that is fast! I think you must be in LOVE :heart:
Looking forward to meeting up with the pair of you !
All the best to you and Zhen
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Greetings Brothers,
Thanks all for the kind words and support.
Paul, being in love is truly the understatement of the decade hehe we are so far past "in love" it isnt funny hehe. Also its thanks to you and SRob that this has come about with your great advice and help.
Mike, you are so right I just cannot keep away from her, but then why would I want to? She is everything I have ever wanted or looked for in a woman and so much more. I know I go on about how we are meant to be but this is how we both feel.
Right from our letters, which you can read snippets of in the love in letters thread in the share your love story forum, through our fist seconds together at the airport in Beijing to our latest webcam 2 hours ago everything has been perfect. I could no easier part from or stay away from Zhen than I could voluntarily stop breathing. It just cannot happen.
Also a quick update.
I spoke with my lawyer and I have to go to see her tomorrow to sign the divorce petition papers. After that is done there is nothing left to hold me in Canada other than tidying up my affairs and moving my furniture to my sister. I discussed at leangth with Zhen and we decided that I will fly to China oct 26th,,as she has work courses out of town until the 25th. She will come get me at the airport again and take me back to Handan.
I will take an apartment there long enough to find a job hopefully in Handan but I have no restrictions. So everything is a go from both sides and only the judge doing the divorce could possibly screw it up.
Regards,
Zhen and Brian
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He he I hope I gave him the 'right' advice....lol:dodgy::icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
Look out Handan 'Brian's a coming...':icon_cheesygrin:
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Well done, and good luck with the language tuition idea. I am warming to the idea of moving to Asia. But I have some baggage in the UK to take care of. I'd also like the economy to recover a bit so that I could try for a decent expat job in IT.
Otherwise I might consider starting another Internet business, as it can be run from pretty much anywhere.
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Brian and Zhen,
I am just so happy for you both. Ming Zhi say's it's all about fate, you can put two people together but if fate is not working in your favor. Nothing doing. I have often found in my life that if I am doing the "right" thing every thing comes easy, but if I'm pursuing the wrong course then all I find is obstructions.
You and Zhen must be like Rob and Karin now counting the days until you can be together! Seems like fate is defiantly working it's magic here!!!
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I never did believe in FATE.
BUT, look at the facts, I was never interested in Asian ladies, never even looked twice towards them.
I looked at the Chnlove site, through other dating agencies, and thought 'hey why not?'
I sent a cupid to Ke Ren in November, she replied right away, me I left it til December to 'reply' to the letter.
LOOK AT US NOW !!!!
Speaking with Ke Ren has 'brought' me nothing but happiness (of course after a hiccup or two...lol).
Now we are getting married...
I'm moving there to do something I have never done before...
I also faced 'My Demons', because of my future fate in meeting Ke Ren...
Ask me now do I believe in fate, YES I DO, otherwise 'Why' would I have looked on Chnlove web site otherwise.
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Fate
Now you raise an interesting issue about the meaning of life:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
I believe the Chinese version of fate is "Yuan Fen"...more like "destiny" for us.
There is a very interesting psychological question that is used as part of an evaluation of a persons personality.
It seeks to identify the "people who wish something will happen" and the "people who will make something happen"...used a lot in Management selection profiling.
It presumes (as can be mathemativcally proved) that every micro-second of our life is pre-ordained, somewhere it is written about everything that will happen to us, minute by minute for all our lives !!!
Thank goodness we cant buy a copy of this book...then life would be so boring...or maybe scary ???
So, guys...here is the question.......
If a little old Lady approached you and said :
"For $20 I will let you look into my crystal ball and you will see yourself in 10 years time...it is guaranteed that what you see will be true"
Would you pay the $20 and have a look....or would you not ????
Leave it with you:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
DavidE
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Fate
So, guys...here is the question.......
If a little old Lady approached you and said :
"For $20 I will let you look into my crystal ball and you will see yourself in 10 years time...it is guaranteed that what you see will be true"
Would you pay the $20 and have a look....or would you not ????
Leave it with you:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
DavidE
David, not a chance. If I had done that 10 years ago I would have seen my family today without my son who died 4 years ago. How would one live their life knowing that your son was going to die within the next 10 years.
Sorry, I like lifes dance, but don't want to know all the steps in advance.
buzz
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Fate
So, guys...here is the question.......
If a little old Lady approached you and said :
"For $20 I will let you look into my crystal ball and you will see yourself in 10 years time...it is guaranteed that what you see will be true"
Would you pay the $20 and have a look....or would you not ????
Leave it with you:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
DavidE
David, not a chance. If I had done that 10 years ago I would have seen my family today without my son who died 4 years ago. How would one live their life knowing that your son was going to die within the next 10 years.
Sorry, I like lifes dance, but don't want to know all the steps in advance.
buzz
I'm with Buzz. I'd just as soon wait and see.
Shaun
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Fate
So, guys...here is the question.......
If a little old Lady approached you and said :
"For $20 I will let you look into my crystal ball and you will see yourself in 10 years time...it is guaranteed that what you see will be true"
Would you pay the $20 and have a look....or would you not ????
Leave it with you:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
DavidE
David, not a chance. If I had done that 10 years ago I would have seen my family today without my son who died 4 years ago. How would one live their life knowing that your son was going to die within the next 10 years.
Sorry, I like lifes dance, but don't want to know all the steps in advance.
buzz
I'm with Buzz. I'd just as soon wait and see.
Shaun
Buzz,
I should have said also that even though it has been a few years I am sorry to hear about the loss of your son. I can't even imagine what you went through and are more than likely still dealing with.
God's blessings on you my friend.
Shaun
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I will say yes, i would like to know. I think I can deal with whatever lays in store for me. After the last 58, I can face anything. Even if it is blank.
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Alright Brian , one more Cupid arrow that hit it's target .Haha
Good luck on your move to China , I think it will be a good move for sure . As you will be with the one you Love and work will come in second .
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You will do well in China Brian
You seem to have the right character for it to be a success for you and Zhen.
Willy
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Greetings Brothers,
Thanks to all for the kind words and advice, we surely do appreciate them all. At this point I am not sure who is more excited me or Zhen but we are both looking forward to this in a big way.
I have sent out some resumes and will continue to do so until I leave, then pick up again when I am in country. Luckily I can afford to wait for a while before work kicks in so if it takes longer I am ok with it. Zhen however might get tired of me hanging around but oh well she wanted me there she must put up with it hehe, just kidding!!
I guess I can always go to the nearest agency and give the translators some english tips and maybe even practice my teaching with them hehe.
Anyway as always we do appreciate the words,
Regards,
Zhen and Brian
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Not long now Brian ! :icon_cheesygrin:
Talking of helping out at the agency, Ming Zhi and I were invited out to the park the other day by her old English teacher for a picnic. She brought along 3 other ladies who were also learning English and writing to guys from the US and Australia, so I was sort of ambushed into a day long lesson ! They will always appreciate the help you can give them, and it makes for a fun day out. They asked me to teach them stuff they could use in everyday life, so I got them all to repeat after me...." Yes Dear"...."Would you like me to get you a beer ,dear"...." That's no problem my dear"......"Of course that's fine with me dear". They all took it very seriously until the English teacher explained what I was doing, and then dissolved into laughter.
A first for me that day was being passed a bag of donkey meat to try! err yes, tastes about as good as you could imagine.
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Donkey meat - I may or may not have tried it!
I have always approached food here with the philosophy that I will eat anything provided I do not know what it is before I start on it!!!
Willy
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I had horse meat in Tianjin before and it just tasted like ham to be honest, was disappointed as it was quite expensive by Chinese standards.
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Not to get off topic? But here they had a few guys killing horses (peoples pets). they kept saying the price for pound was $40.00? This is more per pound then the best cow meat? I wasn't sure if it's some figure they made up? But being it is so expensive in China? Maybe?
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Try this;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGZwmelwnBU
Shaun
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Good one Shaun i needed a laugh
Almost forgot about that show... Wait a minute i am not old enough to remember that show am I?
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I had horse meat in Cuba. I also heard it is popular in Europe...not sure if this is true or not. I don't think I had it in China. But then, i ate a lot of things that I really didn't know what I was eating. The wild mouse wasn't bad.
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Can someone help please? I am thinking about tasking some silver to china to store in an approved depository for future use. Does anyone know how much I can pass through customs with (junk silver coins) and not get grief? Or just as important leave Amerika with?
Thanks
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Hi Skip,
According to the regulations, if gold, silver and the products made from them are less than 50g (2 ounces), they are duty-free and do not need to be declared. If the weight exceeds the limitation, you should declare it. Also Check www.86148.com/englishlaw/shownews.asp?id=447 You may find a way around this, but it will take a bit of doing!
Best of luck
Paul
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A first for me that day was being passed a bag of donkey meat to try! err yes, tastes about as good as you could imagine.
What part of the animal did the meat come from?....or would you rather not have me asssssk that question? :sleepy:
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Well,
it was in a nice shinny packet that came straight from the supermarket, unfortunately there were no pictures of donkey's on the bag or any other way of warning me of the contents They were quite large pieces but I don't really think that helps in the case of donkey's! I thought it was not too bad ,until someone joyfully pointed out what it was .
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Talking of pictures on the packet. On a television show over here about advertisements, I remember one being shown about some sort of product and is was showing a picture of a child on the front of the packet. We were told that the people in this county (not sure which one) would not buy it, because they thought they were eating the child...:huh:
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Well,
it was in a nice shinny packet that came straight from the supermarket, unfortunately there were no pictures of donkey's on the bag or any other way of warning me of the contents They were quite large pieces but I don't really think that helps in the case of donkey's! I thought it was not too bad ,until someone joyfully pointed out what it was .
Of course we get a similar advert here - shows nice meadow grass but never shows the product - because it would reduce the sales. New Zealand lamb is the product.
Wiily
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Greetings Brothers,
Well here is an update on my move to China to be with Zhen. I have quit my job and apartment in Edmonton Alberta and loaded my furniture and effects onto a Uhaul truck and drove through the mountains towing my car behind me to my sister in BC.
We got everything unloaded with minimal damage thankfully and now I have some arrangements to make here then I am set. I am still having issues with the teaching thing especially the degree versus diploma bit, however I received a message from one of the recruiting sites with a job offer in Nanong city Jianxsui. The salary is not as good as previous but it does include accomodation and round trip airfair and is a one year deal. I think if we can get the Z visa from this I will take it.
For me it doesnt matter where in China we go as long as Zhen and I are together then we are happy. She will of course come with me to which ever position I finally get so its all good.
So now its a case of waiting the 6 days until its time to fly to Zhen and start the next chapter in my life. Yes its a little scary giving up your entire life to fly around the world to live in a foreign land with different language and customs and culture, but with Zhen at my side I am sure we can make this work.
After we marry in Feb2010 we will start the long tedious visa process to bring Zhen to Canada and then decide where to live. I have no specific preference, China or Canada either is fine as long as we are together. So I will keep you all updated on how things work out and maybe we can get more concrete details on what exactly you need to teach in China and how hard it is to get a position.
Regards,
Zhen and Brian
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Best of Luck Brian. Your taking the steps for the better. I had woke this morning with "It's Time" hitting me in the face. I don't want to be here anymore. Work is crap and they find ways of not paying. They are tearing down two homes on each side of mine. They didn't mind at all spiking poles half way into my driveway and across my lawn (and mailbox). Putting up construction fencing. Then one figured he'd take my water hose reroute it to next door to use? until I ran out there and said I have to pay, so you have to pay me. I was met with a "qué?" WTF? So anyone what to move to South Florida? I'm selling cheap.
So I'm a little envious right now. It's time to pull things together and get moving outta here.
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Yeah, good luck Brian. I am enjoying each trip to Asia more and more, so I guess I might move out here one day. I think home will be where my lady is. As long as I am with her I can live anywhere. Well maybe not her home province as the air is horrible in central China and I don't have the lungs for it :s.
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So now its a case of waiting the 6 days until its time to fly to Zhen and start the next chapter in my life. Yes its a little scary giving up your entire life to fly around the world to live in a foreign land with different language and customs and culture,
Hi mate
I will not be far behind you with my move Brian. God luck brother...
I TOTALLY understand the emotions and feeling your suffering with at this time:huh:
But as many of the guys have said to me in Pm's THIS is for the best...YOUR life will change, very possibly for the better...
As for the situation with the teaching, the wages will get better, REMEMBER, there is a NETWORK there were your going..Once settled you can tehn look for a better position...
Take Care man, for now, I ENVY YOU
Your friend and Brother
Rob
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HI Brian,
Not long now! Sounds like you have every thing ready for take off. Just think this time next week you will be in the arms of your sweetheart. You wrote "Yes its a little scary giving up your entire life to fly around the world to live in a foreign land with different language and customs and culture, but with Zhen at my side I am sure we can make this work." You missed out being a little crazy as well.:icon_cheesygrin:
From what I can make out, its all about networks here. A network will adopt you and make all the introductions you require to find a good job. Not to help you, but to further there own networks aims and power base. The fact that you get loads of help really has nothing to do with you personally, only the network! So don't mistake this for friendship often if you are introduced to someone they will say pointedly that you are my friend now, which means you are part of there network. This extends to goods and services too. For example if you require a 3G connection for your laptop one of your network will take care of it,again not only does this help you and make life a little smoother but benefits the network as well. I'm only just scratching the surface of it at the moment but several different people have made me quite temping offers so far, but until I have worked this thing out I'm staying neutral or trying to anyway. Any one else with a view on this I would be very interested to hear.
For example, Yesterday we went down to the local police station to get a piece of paperwork I needed to give to the Immigration department to get my 6 month residency visa. After we passed out cigarettes and sweets they were all very helpful and asked if I was going to teach English? I said cautiously that I might, thinking I do not have a Z visa and they know it. When to my surprise they offered me a job teaching the police English. Now what do you say to the police, Errr no thanks. I don't think so! I told them I had just got married and that we were off on honeymoon as soon as my visa was in order and that on my return I would come and see them. The rate of pay was 5000 per month for a couple of days a week. So offers of work come from the strangest of places.
One other thing I found out that may help, is that you Z visa is valid for one month if you leave a job.This gives you time to find another after which your Z visa remains valid for the rest of the year. So no problems about switching positions.
If your ever around Baoding with your lovely lady Brian drop in and maybe stay for a couple of days! We have a spare room so no problems! That goes for you too Vince so get yourself sorted out my friend!:icon_biggrin:
Best of luck with your move,
Ming Zhi,Paul
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Paul...you giving my room away....hahahahaha:@:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
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If your ever around Baoding with your lovely lady Brian drop in and maybe stay for a couple of days! We have a spare room so no problems! That goes for you too Vince so get yourself sorted out my friend!:icon_biggrin:
Best of luck with your move,
Ming Zhi,Paul
My Hat off to you Paul and Ming Zhi .
I could not get this from SOME of my Family Member's ... an offer like that . As my House would be open for Vince also , if his Journey to China would take him through Calif. .
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Greetings Brothers,
Well the time has arrived at last. I will be boarding the plane to china to be with my lady Zhen and start my new life in China in less than 9 hours.
I have quit my job, given up my apartment moved all my furniture and effects to my sister in BC and have all my affairs in order. Zhen will meet me in Beijing and we begin our new life together.
We will spend a couple of days in Beijing going to the zoo and the sea floor exibit and then its off to Handan. At this point I am still trying to nail down a teaching position although a couple of headhunting companies are in conact with me regularly, so I am sure it is only a matter of time.
Zhen and I are planning to marry on Feb14 2010 and then perhaps apply for her visa to Canada. While we would prefer to move to Canada we have to wait for her/our son to finish high school in China first so hopefully the visa will come easier since we will have been married for at least two years and lived in china together the whole time. However if the Canadian bureaucratic BS doesnt agree then we shall live in China. Either way is fine with us as long as we are together.
I will of course try to keep every one posted as to how we make out and what problems and issues we encounter along the way. We both feel that as long as we are together we can work through it all so we are confident this is the right path for us.
So I may be out of touch for a short while but I will post when I can. Good luck to all of you in your quest for the love of your life in China. I have found my Zhen and we both could not be any happier.
Sincerely,
Zhen and Brian