China Romance
All About China => Your trip to China => Topic started by: Martin on September 11, 2009, 01:10:14 pm
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Hi all. After reading a post by David5o, I thought it might be a good idea to make a post on the issue of getting together with fellow forum members while in China.
I hope that others here remember, that if they make arrangements to meet up, or to make contact with a Brother over there, do it!! Or at the very least contact them or the Forum telling them they can't make it for one reason or another. At least they will know your OK then.....
David.....
Currently, one of our brothers is in China, and has not made any contact with the outside world. While I am sure that everything is ok, there is some concern that there has been no communication with this member. There had been plans to meet up with another brother while in China.
If you have made plans to meet with someone, or even to communicate with them, please get in touch with either them, or this forum if your plans have changed. We all understand that you are there to see your lady, and that this is you main priority. However, if plans are made, and you have vanished without a trace, this will cause concern and worry.
Please...if you have said you will contact someone when you are in China, please follow through, and at least try to fire off an email, or a PM, or even a short post on this forum to let us know you are alright.
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As i understand it, this is the second disappearance this week!! No-ones forcing these brothers to keep in contact during there visits to China, but if you have made arrangements/plans with another brother to meet up over there, then that's exactly what they are expecting you to do. It's only fair that you let them, or the forum know, that you wont be able to make that planned meeting, and takes away the concern for your well being, from not letting anyone know!!
As Martin said, fire off an email or a PM, even if you have bad news.... At least let someone (a friend) know, that can confirm to others that your still in the land of the living......
David.....
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I have spoken with Ted aka ttwjr32. His story is that he had problems with his computer for 9 days. Maybe he did maybe he had other things to occupy his mind!!! Well they did marry 3 days ago.
Willy
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Mike,
Internet cafe's
There everywhere mate, in all the Cities, Towns, and even Villages. You may well have walked past scores of them without even knowing they were there. Only the bigger and or Posher one's would have been prominent from the street.....
David....
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I am not taking it personally from Brian. But I have stayed where he is staying and asked them if there was any trouble with there internet. They said no trouble. I had given out my cell phone number but if he didnt take it with him and could not get on the internet well so much for that. Dinger and David are correct. No one can force a brother to contact us, it is just a good idea to just check in every few days so we know you are ok. That is one of the reasons we call it a brotherhood. To keep an eye out for each other. And there are internet cafe's all over the place and David is correct the smaller ones, you would not know unless you looked in on them. The larger ones you can see from the street. I have two near my home here and did not know about them until I peeked into the doors. I absolutely feel better knowing you guys know where I am. You guys know more about my trip here than even my family does. If something happened to me you would be able to tell them where to start looking, close to home. LOL.
I am sure Brian is Ok, but I would feel better if he had just told us he was there and didnt get Shanghai'd in Shanghai.
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Maybe the room was put under the girls name? Did she make the arrangements?
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Tomorrow is the first time I have used my name when booking a room! But as me and a lady are meeting TED ttwjr32 and his new wife Sisi tomorrow in Zhongshan I thought it best if they could find the booking if he got to hotel before me. We are going to be there for two nights.
As he has no computer access yet i may just tell you his full story - but there again I may lend him my computer so he can tell his story himself. At least if he is doing that there will not be too much noise coming from his adjoining room. Not that I am planning on a lot of sleep.
Willy
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Are there any brothers in Wuhan?
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Vince,
No, i'm pretty sure he said (Brian) that he made the bookings for the hotel. As i remember he had to book twice, to get two rooms, one for him and one for his lady and a translator she had arranged.....
David
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Brett, not that i am aware of. Vince, David is correct. that is what he said anyway. it is like he dropped off the map. He must have taken one look at her and forgot everything else. At least I hope so.
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Hi there :)
In 3 or 4 days I should see Arnold and his wife in Shanghai. I have to send him again a PM to confirm the date to meet but it should be ok :)
Maybe could I then see some other Brother later in Gz, maybe not? I don't know but I'll check :)
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I Have just returned to Zhuhai from Zhongshan where I had a great three days with Ted (aka ttwjnr32)and his new wife Sisi. They travelled down from Guangzhou and I met them with the new lady in my life.
As usual I had a problem with ladies. I was on my way back to the hotel and passed in the street. I said Hello as usual and the nextthing I knew they had followed me into the hotel and wanted to give me a message. To do this they followed me to the 13th floor and it wa sonly when i got to my room and they tried very hard to get inside that I realised that it was not a message they wanted to give me but a MASSAGE.
After some time I was having no success so had to knock on Teds door opposite. Got him out of bed and Sisi made short work of them, in seconds they were gone.
He has no internet at present but no doubt will fill you in at a later date.
Also Danny from Os and his daughter have arrived in Zhuhai Ok. He is going to call me again on Tuesday and hopefully I will be meeting him as well.
Willy
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Willy,
Any photo's of these meetings with the other Bro's your meeting with ??
David....
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Willy,
Any photo's of these meetings with the other Bro's your meeting with ??
David....
Will be coming shortly. Ted is going to send them to me by email. As usual I did not take camera.
I will buy a new card for my camera today for when I meet with Danny this week.
Willy
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I have a photo of a Bro's Caddy? But I haven't met any Bro's from here yet.....
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Well I'm Hubei Province (Wuhan) in October, but it seems to be devoid of my fellow brothers :huh:.
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I have a photo of a Bro's Caddy? But I haven't met any Bro's from here yet.....
A 'PIMP' my ride winner ?????
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No, I heard through the grapevine that it is Vince's cruzin' car. It is mainly for that first date to impress. Right Vince??? :icon_cheesygrin::icon_cool:
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I went up to the stores yesterday and to go north on this road I have to cut through to another strip of stores. There is was? I guess they had it out there for like an eye catcher for one of the stores that rent wheels? I guess rent to buy? And it's not Trapeze (the sign in the background) that's a swingers club. :s Passed there on a Saturday night, the parking lot is full? The next shopping center next to this is the chinese mall. Two more shopping strips and that's where I live.
No Shaun my cousins are all dull. I'm the black sheep in the family.
Maybe we will have a South East bro meet?
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Greetings Brothers,
Just a couple thoughts with this keepingin touch business. I found it hard using teh computer room in teh Days Inn hotel to get to this site. Everytime I got a internet explorer cannot find message. Also as mentioned I think it would be better for everyone in teh future to exchange contact info before going over just to avoid these kinds of issues.
For my part I was really looking forward to meeting Jimb and his wife Gina and so was Zhen, but we just couldnt connect. If I had his number with me on paper instead of relying on being able to access this site things would have gone smoother. Also if the staff at the hotel had put two and two together and realized that I was asking about messages from Jimb and he was asking about me when he was there we would have been able to hook up.
Oh well as usual live and learn. Next time I go over and have the chance to meet someone I will be sure to have their contact info in my wallet just to be sure. At least then I would have something in it since Zhen always carries our money.
Regards,
Zhen and Brian
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Willy,
Any photo's of these meetings with the other Bro's your meeting with ??
David....
Anything to oblige David. These were taken in Zhongshan
I am the slim suave one dressed in black. It should be clear how I convinced half the people we met that Ted was my 'Baba'. The other shows Ted and Sisi. And of course It would not be complete without another of me.
Willy
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Willy,
Wow, you look much younger in these photo's than you do in your profile picture here. You certainly don't look 60!! haha!! I can understand now, how your pulling so many women out there! ...lol!!
Now, .....have you been down to the photoshop with these snaps mate?? come on, ....tell the truth!!!! haha!!
David....
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David that is exactly what I was thinking...
Yeah mate tell us the truth...:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
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The photos are straight. No additions at all and I was not wearing makeup when they were taken. I think it was too hot that day to wear the usual mascara and eye liner although comem to think of it there may have been a hint of blusher on the cheeks. And of course the max factor on the lips - well that is made to take the rigours that heat can bring!!!
It is just natural beauty and a carton of 'Just for Men' and maybe a by product from regular use of Viagra and of course old fashioned soft soap. And of course good Chinese cooking for three months.
Even my new girl was convinced Ted was older than me. Well who am I to disallusion her!!!
Willy
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Willy
In the second photo, what were you doing at the table...some profound writing I presume ??:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
DavidE
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Willy
In the second photo, what were you doing at the table...some profound writing I presume ??:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
DavidE
you cannot see me. I was behind Ted holding him up - that is my shadow you can see.
Tonight i met up with Danny from Oz and his daughter Emma. If he gets a chance he may come to my place tomorrow and write a report to the brothers on what has happened to him in recent days.
We finished off his crate of beer and ended up in McDonalds. Maybe we will have another crate tomorrow!!
Willy
Willy
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Willy, I have to say these guys are right. Dump the profile pic. You look much better in the new photos. I see the humor in you too. That little stance kind of reminds me of Charlie Chaplin.
Here I made it for you.
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Thats it, thanks Vince, I couldn't think of who he reminded me of. :icon_cheesygrin::icon_biggrin:
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Thanks Guys,
Charlie Chaplin and me. Not a great deal of difference between Chaplin and myself. Both of us were born in London to poor parents.
Well his folks had no money and when i was born people would look at me, then say to my parents 'oh you poor things!!!!!'
But just like the ugly ducking and Chaplin we were not pretty to start with but you should see how we turn out.
Its not how you start, it is how you finish that counts and Chaplin fathered a child when he was around 80. I am still working towards that and keeping the engine well oiled.
Willy
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willy
thanks for the kind words. but you neglected to tell everyone
that i photo shopped the pics all day one day per your request
so that you looked younger
ted
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willy
thanks for the kind words. but you neglected to tell everyone
that i photo shopped the pics all day one day per your request
so that you looked younger
ted
Thanks Ted. I was keeping that a secret.
Mind you YuYan has found my supply of 'Just for Men' colouring.
Willy
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Any brothers currently live in Changsha?
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Any brothers currently live in Changsha?
I think Abigbutt does Andy... He posted something about Changsa in another thread...
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Rob, I think you should have rephrased "I think Abigbutt does Andy" ?? I was confused until I re-read the whole thing.... :huh::icon_cheesygrin:
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ROFLMAO...............hahahahaha
Sorry abigbutt...hahahahahaha:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin::angel: I mean Andy hahahaha
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WOW!!!!!!
Did everything change after I went to work this morning? I cant bring myself to say the whole name but you know who and Andy? Rob, I would just as soon your keep this to yourself. :icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
Vince you are too funny in commenting on this. All of you this is too funny.
Shaun
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Hopefully I'll have a permanent base in either Beijing or Tianjin (30 mins on the bullet train from Beijing) from January onwards.
If any of the bro's need help or assistance when I'm there they are welcome to ping me.
I'll update when settled there but as i know some others are setting up there already i think it would be pretty cool if we had a brotherhood support network over there in place in time.
I know for one it sucks ass to be stranded there when things go belly up. i would have loved to have a friendly English speaking voice to lift my spirits and go for a few beers with and help me out with finding my feet.
What do you guys think?
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Ronan, that is a wonderful idea, now all we need is the other brothers that are there now or will be to get together and set it up.
As my Mum is fond of saying " now thats useing your head for more then a hat rack ". :angel:
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Mike that would be great, the social aspect of it is very appealing to.
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I'm up for it too mate...A great idea:icon_biggrin:
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I'm in Wuhan in October, if anyone is around.
If I make another trip then a base in Beijing might be good, I don't fancy 30 hour journeys to central China so it would be good to break the journey someplace.
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The idea of a support group in Beijing is a really good one. But do remember, those of you that are going to China to work, will have a relatively smaller amount of spare time available, than you may imagine.
Don't forget, that you will in all likelihood be working a minimum of 50 hours a week, and possibly 60 hours, during school terms. So a lot of the functions of such a group, will be relying on those of you, that are going to China on a retirement basis....
David....
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Anyone going to be near Shanghai, Beijing, Nanjing, or Hefei from December 18th through January 17th?:fi_lone_ranger:
Big Dave
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Hey arnold. How can your wife survive in this heat wave with humidity in shanghai for so long. Not like chongqing is better but livable.
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Who is in Guangzhou right now?
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Any brothers currently live in Changsha?
You have to wait 5 years then I will be living in Changsha during the winter and in Sweden during the summer.. That is the major plan right now
Peter
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Changsha in the Winter? Sweden in the Summer? Should have that the other way round. It was freezing cold there this Winter. My Father in Law came down from Hunan Province to spend the winter with us.
Willy
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Willy.. Changsha is called one of the 7 chimneys because the temperature will climb to over 40 degrees C in the summer.. Last time I was there in July it was 40 to 43 degrees so you could not go outside in the middle of the day. In the evening it was about 30 to 35 degrees... In Sweden it is only about 28 to 30 degrees daytime and 25 in the evening...
My wife doesn't think I can adopt to the high temperature... I guess I will have to prove her being wrong..
I guess we will have to have another discussion about this my wife and I :D
Peter
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Or better , never live in that abominable place called Sweden again ;D (Yes i have a grudge with Sweden ;) )
Im in Beijing for 1 year+ ahead it seems if anyone wants to hook up. We plan to save up and buy an apartment in Quingdao for later next year but better hurry before prices starts climbing like crazy there as well.
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hi Mikael
you call Sweden abominable place to live England is worse
am i right willy
willy know best he left the god forbidden place
what is it about Europe
i to Mikael is leaving England to move to china for good to Chengdu i can not wait
hey willy what is the word to describe England ;)
anyway back to all good things it is china :)
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oh yes Mikael all the best in your new life in china
and good luck with your business adventure
regards joey and Sophia
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Thank you very much :D And same to you.
Yes i hear from alot of UK brothers and sisters too that the situation is going out of hand in UK as well. Sweden is remarkable though. I mean, it really takes skills and dedication to bring a country from the top.. to name but a few; 3:rd richest in the world per capita, 2:nd best healthcare system in the world, a role model in Nuclear science for the US, Europes second largest music export, rated as safest country in the European Union, Home of several international innovators and international strong brands such as Ikea, Volvo, Saab Automotive, Saab Aerospace, Hasselblad, Hennes & Mauritz etc etc to today: From 3:rd to 12:th richest country (prognosis says 33:rd place in 10 years), WORST healthcare of all OECD countries, Rated for worst Nuclear Powerplants in the world, Now rated unsafe to visit even by China and Thailand, all our big brands and innovators has left , been sold or went bankrupt.... You could practically write a book about the quick downfall and it would end up fatter then any Encyclopedia. Politicians and leaders who fails arent enough to accomplish this. But someone who is very determined to make sure of it is. Oh .. did i mention FRA, our arab mass immigration problems , WORLDS highest taxes (yeah, Sweden now officially passed UK) ... Yeah its an abominable place and im not gonna sponsor it any further thats for damn sure.
Thank god we have China 8)
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Still there is always ABBA to cheer up with!!!
Willy
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Hi All
It does seem a bit strange to me, composing a reply to Mickaels very thought provoking and realistic post about the situation in Sweden.
I just had a wonderful, romantic Valentine dinner with my wife,
on the beach, sitting in front of the beautiful Andamon Sea, drinking champagne and eating grilled lobster,
whilst a guitarist plays quietly in the background ........and we only have 4 other couples in sight doing the same thing
....we are in our own little bit of heaven here !!!
But I guess Mikaels post reminded me that most of us cannot escape the reality that the World we knew, and grew up in
is rapidly changing into something quite nasty.
The situation you describe Mike, about Swesen is being repeated in just about every "civilised" country in the world.....even Australia !!
Make no mistake, we are on the threshold of something real bad...and I dont know if it will take 2, 5, 10 or 50 years to eventuate
but we are in the downward spiral, the descent to mediocrity because we have (or rather, our Politicians have) allowed the unrestricted migration of
too many people who are culturally and totally opposed to our way of life to enter our world and change it from within.......by stealth.
There is hardly a "normal" person who does not strongly oppose such undermining of our basic beliefs and standards, but the agenda.....as
usual is being run by a handful of freaks and do=gooders who dont give a damm about consequenses.
This is not meant to be a racist post........races dont count in this particular drama...but cultural differences do. I will leave you to each work
out what cultural you consider to be dangerously different........but something will have to give and it wont be pretty.
David
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David & Mikael, There are several different forces pushing the envelope so to speak to change society as we once knew it. Today I heard on a radio show, the people talking about something that we would have not even considered in America as little as 20 years ago. I didn't catch all of it but there was apparently a study done that said on average the government spends more medically on a person the last six months of their life than the previous seventy years including private insurance.
The idea was presented that in an effort to reduce spending, the government would keep close eye on medicaid recipients and when the government, no one else, determined that the individual was on a downward spiral to death that they would stop paying for medical treatment. How does one explain this to a person who has invested all of their life into the government only to be left high and dry?
I know this wasn't what you were referring to but it is a part of the picture. It is a good think at this point in life that we have selected the women we have. Hopefully China will hold a higher regard for human life.
I don't think that many of the people messing up our countries will find traction for the ideology in China.
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There are to many public sector people that don't belong in the lead position. If they had a half a brain they may be more dangerous.
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David is spot on regarding my means and thoughts. Multiculturalism is now being condemned widespread in Europe by Sarkozy, Merkel, etc. We are now reaping the harvest of mass integration of primarily Arabs and Muslims into our nations where the integration has failed completely. Today there are 73 million Arabs in Europe and it keeps growing. Like David says, this is not a a race question/problem but a cultural one. There are far too many cauldrons boiling in the world today, the middle east region, the DPRK and ROKK situation , and now big parts of Europe etc andwe have far to many global problems of "impending doom" ticking. It will spill over of course, it is only a question of when, and where it spills over first. Because i am sure it doesnt matter if the situation escalates first in DPRK or in Iran, when it turns to war the rest will follow and the world as we know it will turn into a rather different place then what we are used to.
It has been my firm belief since i was around 20 already. That if i am not to die unexpectedly being hit by a train or some other unforeseeable incident but by natural means / cause of age. I will live to experience a new global war, and for sure the global use of WMD's. Its not a pretty thought but the current situation in the world will soon have no other options. I dont want to live forever, but i do want to live when im alive and healthy. Theres little we can do to stop the progress of whats happening around us now. So i say to myself and to my friends and family, make the best of the life you have here on earth while you can.
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Mikael, there are many more issues including the one you mention which is most complex one in of itself. There are many other things to consider also. For example they are in a political struggle within themselves too. If our governments would leave them alone they might implode from within. All we can do at this stage of the game is wait and see and hope.
You say that we should live life to its fullest. We should be doing that regardless of what is happening on a national front. I am certain that you would agree with this that the only real sanity we have right now is the women that we have chosen to fall in love with. ;) I know it is that way with me.
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For sure Shaun :)
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Shaun
Just to add a little more to your "aged care" words........
It is very logical to think that folk require more practical and medical as they age, this has been the case since we came down from the trees !!
The mark of a civilisation is how compassionately it treats its aged, even stone age people cared for aged folk, and their job was much tougher !
What has been lost in the statistic you mentioned is the fact that it is NOT the medical costs that are the problem.........it is the mountain of Administration
and Beaurocracy costs that are wrecking the Heakth care "deliverables".........only 44 cents in every dollar spent ever gets to a Patient !!!!
The same sort of ratio exists in almost every facet of Government Administration of OUR money.........does not matter which Country......they are all the
same.
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David,
You are absolutely right. I remember when my father was alive all of the paperwork that was done. People have no idea. Anything government = a multitude of paperwork. I have to complete forms everyday in my job. Before I can move 6 inches in the morning I have to fill out 3 forms. There is a time sheet that I fill out in 15 minute blocks. Then there is the pre-trip form for inspecting my bus. Then finally there is the grounds record of how the school property looked since I am the first to arrive every morning. If there is a confrontation with a student or a parent there is a form for that... You get the idea.
We have a person who works for out schools system. His job is to shred paper once a month. It takes him almost 6 days to complete the task each month. Fortunately everything is scanned in and saved on disk. We keep the paper recorded 5 years before they are shredded. It is insane.
There was another David on this site that had it right as far as the infiltration into other countries. But I always reach to hope that everything will eventually be all right.
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I can only say that Mikael is right about a lot of things....but this is not the reason for living in China and in Sweden.. There are too many things that will still connect me with Sweden. I have almost all my relatives there inclucing my 2 grandchildren... It is still my home country for better or for worse...
If it was up to me alone I would not hesitate to live in China for the rest of my life..
Peter
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David brings up a point about something else , the Homeless . The last couple of Thanksgiving's I donated some Money to the LA Mission to provide Meals for them . Well guess what ? From then on I receive Ton's of Mail asking for more from the same Organization . Now is that where their spending most of the incoming Money on , instead for Food ? I mean , paper/mail is not free for them . This made me stop giving anything again . So go figure , half get's spend that way .. minus what someone there put's in their Pocket .. so what is left for the actual Homeless ? To think , besides .. lot of them are Vet's . So nice Job .. GOV. .
I strongly believe , that here our Government encourage everybody to eat Junk Food's and get Fat/Unhealthy so we die-off before we become 62/65 to collect . Since we are not dying off fast enough .. what do they do ? Raise the Retirement age .. to safe them the Money that we pay'd all our Lives for SS . I have read ones that the McD's in Sweden serve much healthier food there , so why not here ? Well ... ^^^ explain it .. doesn't it .
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Yes Arnold, you touch on a real big issue here.
There is only one "charity" that delivers more than 50% of donated funds to the actual person in need. The rest vary between 2% and 43% !!!!
Collecting money for charities is only an income generator for each of the various fund raising Companies,
And every dollar they raise, gives a Government an excuse to remove Public Funds from the equation....go figure !!!!!!
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:)