China Romance
General Discussion and Useful Links => Newbies Corner => Topic started by: Willy The Londoner on January 04, 2010, 05:32:09 am
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Found this on the US Embassy Guangzhou website.
Where have we heard warnings of similar event - on this forum of course.
Willy
Marriage Fraud Against U.S. Citizens
The Consulate has received some reports of fraud committed against U.S. citizens by Internet correspondents from China professing romantic interest. In many of these cases, the Chinese national has hired a company to communicate with the American citizen for him/her, meaning that s/he has not actually written any of the e-mails that were sent to the American. Likewise, the American citizen may unwittingly carry on telephone conversations with a paid consultant posing as the romantic interest. The business models of many of these companies are reliant on the American citizen ultimately paying extremely high “consulting” fees—often the Chinese national will tell the American that s/he needs tuition for English study, but actually uses this money to pay the relationship consultant. In some cases, when the American visits China to meet his/her Internet friend in person, a visa consultant accompanies the Chinese friend and presents the American with a demand for payment of thousands of dollars in fees. At times, when the American citizen has refused to pay, s/he has been threatened with physical violence or unlawful detention. The Consulate has also received reports of Internet relationship scams seeking money, rather than visas. For instance, the Chinese person will claim they or a close family member has been kidnapped or had a large sum of money stolen and asks the American to wire them money.
While many Chinese citizens are sincere in their desire to marry and live with Americans they meet over the Internet, some are not. It is important to remember that immigrant visas to the United States are viewed by many Chinese as having a great deal of value, and it is not uncommon for people to enter into relationships for the sole purpose of obtaining a visa.
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forward that to china loves translators hahaha
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Visa's are viewed as having a great deal of value?
Shhhhhh let them keep thinking that. LOL
We've got to keep exposing the scam agencies and translators, and like you said in another post until it starts affecting their bottom line it will continue.
We need to somehow get to these new guys. They are like virgins and will naively pour money to the agencies until the light bulb comes on.
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i agree Jeff we must all get together and report the bad ones
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This crap is why it takes us a year to get a Visa.
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In my opinion it will probably get more difficult for you guys to get your ladies visas in the future because it seems like your Homeland Security is Empire building just like our UK Border Force and the directors want to have the biggest organisation possible so that their jobs are seen as more worthwhile and therefore giving them more kudos within their bureaucratic organisations.
It seems to me that just like the UK they are unable to stem the tide of illegal immigrants into our countries so to keep their figures up they pick on those who are trying to enter legally and look for any minor infringement to delay or even prevent someone entering even if they have a valid reason.
The longer they take to complete an enquiry to let our ladies in then they say that this is to enable enquiries to be made to ensure the case is genuine. What in fact they have done is to repeatably put the case at the bottom of a pile until they feel it is expediant to complete the paperwork.
Willy
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Willy ,
i do believe the USA is the same. they cannot stop the onslaught of
illigals from Mexico so it then becomes harder on the ones who try
and do the right thing
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To be honest that advisory is very old. And has been rehashed multiple times over the years, with multiple countries. Whats funnier is reading some of the "stories" surrounding these advisories. They all read the same, for the same reasons, the only thing that changes is the country involved.
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Willy,
you forgot ; or those who claim large medical bills for themselves or a family member and ask for money to be sent to cover the bill.
How about we buy an island, elect one of the brothers as president, declare independence from anyone, and not require any visa for chinese women or children as long as they were married.? We could then collect millions from the US just for being their "friend"...:icon_cheesygrin:
Shaun, when I suggested to you to open an "honest" chinese dating service, I was being sincere. With the notice above you can see the need for one or more places. Lots of dough in this for the right person. Mabey you and Willy can go in partners on this. It's not that you couldn't use the money right?
It will give both of you a steady income, and perhaps you can change things by example. You could also have a side business by getting a lawyer to work with you that is an expert in visa's. I hear the jingle of money coming your way....somthing to think about.
Hell, you both could have a small strip mall, Dating service, immagration lawyer, english teaching service and trip planning service.
(and willy can have the vending machine rights to the viagra in the bathrooms...:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:)
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Good idea Rocky - Just one problem is that you need a special licence to introduce Chinese Nationals to Foreigners. (Most of the Chnlove agencies do not have them I hear) These licences are hard to come by and Chinese can usually get away with not having them - as money talks - but I think us foreigners would have a problem if found out. Unless of course the business was based outside of China.
Willy
If anyone does have a problem with an angency you can always ask to see their licence. Problem is it could be the water rates demand that you are shown and you will not have a clue whether it was or was not a licence!!!!
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ok i will be president of the island i have many good connections in the
USA from the oil business i was in so i think i could get them to pass thru
the senate appropriations dept a boat load of cash for us. then we could
all live there and ship in food, beer, some musical events and hell we can
let some hollywood people stay at our hotel and charge them 12,000 a night
for the room. it would be a secluded side of the island
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Hold on Ted
This island will be no Democratic Republic - we will vote in our President!!!
I cannot support a one party state. But give me a party at least once a week and that will be OK. Food and beer can come in on the UN food Aid programme and the rich goverments can pour in millions which we will pocket - why not that goes on in nearly every other country that gets aid! That means that WE can PAY THE STARS 12,000 a night to stay away.
But what about women? Done Africans, Done Indians now done Chinese.
So how about I move onto eskimos - Yes - shack up in a nice cosy Igloo somewhere - they look very sexy all wrapped up in those nice furs.
But hold on - are not Eskimo's Canadian? I will have to think about that one a bit longer.:icon_cheesygrin:
Willy
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Eskimo's are asian so your back to chinese... On a list like that Latin would be next.
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Come on Vince. I thought Eskimos were from Greenland north of Canada! I think Mustfocus would have something to say on the location.
Did not want to pick on the Latins, I had a Brazillian girlfriend once and a Columbian but at the Latinos are soon going to be the biggest group in the US one day so thought I had better not upset them in case I want to visit again!!!!!
But as the Chinese represent 20% of the worlds population - I hereby revoke anything naughty that I may have said about them in the past! And also my lady is learning English fast and she may start reading some of my postings soon.:huh::huh:
Willy
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Inuit? Actually all over northern Canada and Greenland and Alaska and I think there are some in Russia (although I'm not sure what they're called there)... Won't claim them solely as our own... :angel:
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Inuit? Actually all over northern Canada and Greenland and Alaska and I think there are some in Russia (although I'm not sure what they're called there)... Won't claim them solely as our own... :angel:
Thanks - Inuit thats the name I was looking for. Read a book once - long time ago but it was about an Inuit and it said he as attacked by a polar bear once and when he had a pee he had to squat like a woman or a Chinese person. Maybe Vince read the same book and got confused!!!
Willy
Sage with Age :icon_cool:
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Maybe think again about Inuits women...they dont shower and eat rancid seal blubber.....Yipes !!!
Possibly we could consider a trial of Ladies from India...we could all get to learn about the Khama Sutra !!!!...and there are some nice looking babes in India...a few !!!!
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No No No, The indian women wouldn't care about the men, as much as running all the motels and 7-11's. :icon_cheesygrin: I have to work for a guy from india and he is a pain like no other pain in the arse. With women from India it would have to be on a case by case basis, and would require a full body scanner (willy or shaun) ha ha :icon_cheesygrin: We would have to limit them as to how many motels and 7-11's they could run...ha
All the Eskamo's are from Alaska and they are american. It is a rule that if you are a guest and spend the night, they send the wife to sleep with you and keep you warm. I'm looking for an eskamo with a 5'4" blond wife around 115 pounds with no fish breath to keep me warm at nite, hell I might just stay a month...:icon_cheesygrin:
As far as hollywood, only certan hollywood actrisses could be invited, and see if we can get the beer company's to DONATE!
"kegs for stranded travelers" a non-profit orginazation.... by the way what's the rule pres on growing wildwood weed?
Keep in mind willy, that you'd have to run in China as those businesses run on a lot of "walk-in"s, so perhaps crossing palms with a little green would not hurt considering how much you get in return. It's a killer business that makes tons of dough.
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Just one probelm Rocky. I have been brought up on Hong Kong TV here. 50 times a day there is an advert telling all and sundry not to give or take 'red envelopes' for doing your job as it should or should not be done.
And the other one shows a little girl 'crying bitterly' her words not mine, because her baba had been caught at it and taken to jail.
I maybe could take the jail but they threaten you to have to watch the same girl crying 24/7 - I could not take her stupid dubbed voice for an hour let alone 24/7!!!!!!
They do not want 'green' they prefer 'red' here!!!
Willy
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A little education, :dodgy:
Inuit: The peoples inhabiting the regions from northwestern Canada to western Greenland speak Inuit languages ( Inuit in Canada, Greenlandic in Greenland) and call themselves Inuit (not Eskimo), and Inuit now has official status in Canada. By analogy, Inuit is also used in the U.S., usually in an attempt to be politically correct, as a general synonym for Eskimo. This, however, is inaccurate because there are no Inuit in Alaska and Inuit therefore cannot include people from Alaska (who speak Inupiaq, which is closely related to Inuit, or Yupik, which is also spoken in Siberia). Since neither Inupiaq nor Yupik is in common U.S. usage, only Eskimo includes all of these peoples and their languages.
There's an interesting (well to me?) chinese history of an emperor many centuries ago that sent out 300 ships to globe the world. Each place they stopped at they left some people. They had said they had stopped off in north and south America. Where they were met by natives. Fast forward.. DNA tests were taken at multiple areas of natives with Ancestry blood line and have found that they do have Asian DNA. Including Alaska.
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Vince G. - that's just a story. The Inuit are not acutally Chinese but more Mongolian and etc. The current theory is they crossed the Bearing Land Bridge.
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The ships are a story? It's been logged and written which is how they know about it. I said chinese but they could have been Mongolian? The DNA just says Asian. I was told of the Bearing Straight also. Land mass was closer then? But a more recent was they crossed on boats? The 300 ships were around 1500? or so. I doubt they had boats good enough to sustain the Pacific ocean a century or more before that so I always went with the Bearing Straight idea.
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I keep looking around for any Chinese who have any of my caharacteristics. Perhaps I should do a mass DNA. After all my father spent two years in China before WW2 with the British Army. Like father like son goes the phrase - so maybe that is why it is in my genes. I spent 9 months getting out of a woman and the last 45 trying to get back in - as often as possible!!!!!!
Willy
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Vince G. The wikipedia link is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beringia
basically due to the ice age, the Bearing Straight was much lower water level and there was acutally land you could cross..
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There is so much knowledge on this Forum - it makes my head hurt just thinking about it.
Willy
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Willy, I've always been into this and other history. Even funnier is my lady is into it too. There are times when we will talk of something historical and you can see the smiles of satisfaction in the writing. It's a common interest thing?
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history is good i have been reading more lately on
chinas history mind boggling to say the least but
it is sure very interesting reading back thousands of years
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Funny after I wrote the last post I went to bed, I put the TV on and what come on? A documentary of spear and arrow heads from long ago. Who and where was the first sign of use? and how they made them.
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WOW!! a documentary on spears and arrowheads - you Americans sure have interesting TV these days!!!
What ever happened to 'I Love Lucy' , 'Burns and Allen', 'Bilko' and 'Jack Benny'?
Willy
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Willy they are on the cable channels now in which I won't pay for. Seen those old shows when they were first on and ever since. Most of todays shows are just a spin off of another. All the same crap.
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WOW! and double WOW! I did not realise you still had the interesting shows on TV.
The sooner I can get American TV, and not turn it on the better.LOL :icon_cheesygrin:
Mind you I do like 'Two and a Half Me' that Charlie Sheen is a man after my own heart!!!
Willy
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willy he has gotten in a bit of trouble for
trying to kill his wife on xmas day or threatening to do it
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From what I was told, during the land mass situation, people from asia came across on the land mass along with animals. Now that is how we got american indians. As far as the southern people ie; azteks, mexicans, etc. I'm not sure. But the american indians and that includes alaskan's, eskamos,orginal canadians (canadian indians) all in fact northern people and buffalo came over the land bridge and spread out all over the place. In those days I guess, sex was good. It took people from england to move over here and shoot all the indians and buffalo so they could claim the land and put up skyscrapers and polute the air....haha :icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
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willy he has gotten in a bit of trouble for
trying to kill his wife on xmas day or threatening to do it
Maybe I will be able to do that for next christmas. It beats playing games around the Christmas Tree!!!!!
Perhaps he just wanted to play 'Cluedo' for real.
Willy
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Now that is how we got american indians. As far as the southern people ie; azteks, mexicans, etc. I'm not sure.
Same people, they just traveled further south. If you look there are many similarities between them all. High cheek bones, eyes, hair color and texture and even music.
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The mexican hat dance must have started with the cheyenne indians....haha:icon_cheesygrin: as they were kicking custers ass....
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i passed thru and stopped were custers last stand actually happened
and it was quite an interesting place so open but they did have him outnumbered
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i passed thru and stopped were custers last stand actually happened
and it was quite an interesting place so open but they did have him outnumbered
Little Big HORN - good name for a last STAND!!!
Willy
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there was 1 survivor from the battle of little big horn.
it was a horse named Comanche and he lived for about 16 or 17
years after that as a pampered hero and when he died he was
stuffed and is at the university of kansas