China Romance
All About China => Understanding Chinese Women => Topic started by: Okie_Rob on June 07, 2010, 01:54:20 am
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Stumbled upon this site tonight ... hope has this is not a repeat or has been posted before?
Site is Love Love China, Everything About Chinese Girls ... and of course written by a Chinese Girl
Intersting site ... and good information here on Chinese Girls, how they may think, act, and what they expect from us,
which may give us an understanding of Chinese Women:
http://www.lovelovechina.com/ (http://www.lovelovechina.com/)
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This is very interesting Rob. Thanks.
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I've gone through this site, (which seems to be a personal blog, of a young Chinese girl.) and I've read quite a few of the articles posted, and found them anything but informative, but rather skirting round things, and never getting anywhere near a full picture of the topic subject.
I also noticed that this site was only started early this year, so it could very well improve as time goes on. But right now, i doubt if anyone's going to get any worthwhile insights from this site on Chinese ladies.
It is also quite evident that the site is mainly looking at the ''Younger'' Chinese ladies, the only mention of mature ladies are from guests comments.....
David....
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David,
You are right with your assessment but I would ad this one factor. If you have seen indications or experienced an issue with a woman from China and this site confirms your suspicions based on your experience then it might be something you want to watch for.
For example: That first day Peggy could not get over how hairy my arms are. Later I took my shirt off (don't get the wrong idea) and she could not believe how hairy my chest was. I asked her if it was a problem and she said no but you could see that she wasn't sure what to think. I told her two things. 1. God put it there for women to play with. (she got quite a chuckle out of that) 2. The hair that fell off my head needed to go somewhere.
Needless to say after a 3 or 4 days she didn't think anything about it... so to speak. Ah... hem. Never mind. I took the article about hair to mean that most women do not like hair on men so much.
I also asked her if she wanted me to shave it off. She said no.
Shaun
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which makes it not totally useless for some
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Shaun,
I know what your talking about, but believe me, .....They get to like it, ...Very Quickly!!! In fact to a point where they look at non-hairier guy's as wimps!! hahaha!!!
David....
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Ted,
Take the time to read it first, ....then come back and tell us that it has useful information!!!!
David....
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i didnt say it was useful info for all but that some might find it a little useful
in their seeking of info no matter how small or trivial that might be
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Ted,
At the moment, the best it can do, ....is to confirm the obvious!!
...Give the site time, and it may mature into a good insight to ALL Chinese women. But at the moment, it doesn't come anywhere near close....
David...
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I know what your talking about, but believe me, .....They get to like it, ...Very Quickly!!! In fact to a point where they look at non-hairier guy's as wimps!! hahaha!!!
David,
Tis' true McDuff!!! But I wasn't going to elaborate. But since you brought it up... she did like the hairy chest... It didn't bother me too much either. Hehe.
And wimps is what they are? Right?
Shaun
Man my spelling today is terrible.
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Shaun well thats all that matters she liked it right lol!!!
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I thought the is article was cute :- http://www.lovelovechina.com/fashion/crystal-tao-and-her-qipao/ (http://www.lovelovechina.com/fashion/crystal-tao-and-her-qipao/)
I said to Sunny that I figured she would look really pretty in one of these "qipao" dresses, so she agreed she would wear one for me if I bought it for her, haha!
So we will pick out a nice one next time I go there for her.
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Ronan,
I found them in a store in the Train Station in Shenzhen. They were very reasonable. 100RMB if if remember correctly. I bought 2. Peggy wears them for me on the web-cam often. Yes, I like very much. hehe.
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bejing lu street is full of shops with these dresses but there is one place by haizhou square that wholesales them at half the price
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Ted,
Take the time to read it first, ....then come back and tell us that it has useful information!!!!
David....
lets allow others to read it and see if anything can be useful to them on this site. some are just starting and not as
comepletely knowlegable on all matters and they might find something useful thats what i meant!!!
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Ted,
At the moment, the best it can do, ....is to confirm the obvious!!
...Give the site time, and it may mature into a good insight to ALL Chinese women. But at the moment, it doesn't come anywhere near close....
Ted,
Starting out, or experienced, There is very little information on this site to help anyone at the moment!!! Which is basically what i said in the above quote to your previous reply.
If you read through this site yourself you will find that even one of the guests on the site, ...commented along similar lines, calling her topic blogs ''Lame''and without content!!!
I'm not trying to stop anyone going to this site Ted, I'm just giving my opinion on the site, based on what i've read there. I'll go back there again later on, and see how things are progressing, ...After all she only started this site in January of this year, she may need a little more time to pull things together. She's only young herself going by her site photo's....
David....
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For example: That first day Peggy could not get over how hairy my arms are. Later I took my shirt off (don't get the wrong idea) and she could not believe how hairy my chest was. I asked her if it was a problem and she said no but you could see that she wasn't sure what to think. I told her two things. 1. God put it there for women to play with. (she got quite a chuckle out of that) 2. The hair that fell off my head needed to go somewhere.
Needless to say after a 3 or 4 days she didn't think anything about it... so to speak. Ah... hem. Never mind. I took the article about hair to mean that most women do not like hair on men so much.
I also asked her if she wanted me to shave it off. She said no.
Shaun
Interesting! :D I don't know what the general idea about this is among Chinese women (if it exists), but my lady doesn't like beard. I have a very hard beard (it's almost like sandpaper) and have to shave at least once a day to keep clean. When I kissed her neck she complained a bit about it (partly because she was nervous, I think). On hair in general I like to keep a clean shave pretty much all over so I guess she wouldn't have to worry about it too much...
I think the blog tells us something of one Chinese girl's view on Western men, though. I asked my lady early on why she was looking for a foreign man and she told me that she thought Chinese were chauvinistic and too traditional in their view on the role of women and men in a relationship. At the same time she is not a feminist which I, living in the feminist center of Earth (Sweden), find very relieving. When I told her I like to cook she was delighted, this was certainly nothing she expected. So I guess for a modern Western man just being who we are may give us some +++ over many Chinese men. I'm behind on the gym part, though... :-[
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You won, David !
Everybody, including myself is persuaded that my blog is anything but informative (and lame ;D )...
Hello, everyone. Let me introduce myself. My name is Crystal Tao and I am the author of LoveLoveChina - the blog discussed in this thread. Yesterday I tracked some of the visits to my site coming from this forum, and so I am here to say "Hi".
First of all, I am very happy to read this thread - since it is an excellent opportunity to get some objective (at least until I appeared here ;) ) feedback to my writing.
I should admit that my blog is far from being an in-depth research on any given topic. But actually I have never set up such a goal. Not being a psychologist, or sociologist, and given a short format of my posts - I am writing little "how-to..." and "why..." articles which can be defined as "tutorials for beginners". I am sure that in the wide range of resources that can be found on internet there is a legitimate place for a blog of this kind as well. In fact, the mainly positive feedback of my little, but loyal readership stimulates me to continue writing.
But, of course, I want to learn and improve. And I am very grateful to readers who leave comments on my blog enrichening its contents. I want to use an opportunity to invite the members of this forum to share their perspective on the pages of my blog by leaving their comments (or - if interested - even submitting guest post to give a different perspective; to do that you can visit "About" page on my site).
In fact, right now I am doing a little research about the traits of online dating among Chinese women. There is a chance that when I publish the results - even David would like that article, and since he granted me a chance to become more "mature" - I promise to come here again and tell you when the article is ready.
In conclusion, I do want to refer to comments of one guest who called my blog lame. Actually, his comments surprisingly well resonate with David's critics. One of the first articles I wrote was titled Don’t Make These Mistakes With Chinese Girls (http://www.lovelovechina.com/dating/don%e2%80%99t-make-these-mistakes-with-chinese-girls/). It was a list of quite simple, not-rocket-science tips - the main idea of which can be summarized as to treat Chinese girls with respect and take in account their traditional values.
For some reason the aforementioned guest with a nickname "Booger face" wasn't happy and left the following comment:
"Crystal… Your advice is lame. It is obvious and offers no real ‘information’. I commend you on trying to run a blog but make it interesting otherwise the only people that will read this are lame ‘Oprah fans’.
I have been in China for a long time and I can assure you that there are many crazy, horny women that are ‘traditional’. They try to convince me that they are pure and innocent and that I am their uncle or big brother and within 30 minutes we are in bed having sex (or incestuous relations)..."
Well... let me state one thing very clearly! If informativeness of my blog equals to giving spicy tips on how to bed Chinese girls - then I prefer it to be lame, and will be completely happy with "Oprah fans". And to "Booger face & Co" I can advise to read other blogs, which I am sure they know better than me.
And I am really happy to join this forum - since I already can see here a lot of interesting information, which undoubtedly will help me to get new ideas and make my blog better.
Sincerely yours , Crystal Tao
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Crystal,
Wow!!! Don't you sleep at night?? or were you out on the town tonight?? I'm just a little surprised you joined/registered here at 3.30am China time!!!!
Referring to your post, ....I generally do, give most people the benifit of doubt!!
So who invited you to this Forum then Crystal??
David....
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Crystal,
Wow!!! Don't you sleep at night?? or were you out on the town tonight?? I'm just a little surprised you joined/registered here at 3.30am China time!!!!
Referring to your post, ....I generally do, give most people the benifit of doubt!!
So who invited you to this Forum then Crystal??
David....
She found it herself - Yesterday I tracked some of the visits to my site coming from this forum, and so I am here to say "Hi".
I'm delighted to have a Chinese lady join us here and to hopefully give her input occasionally.
So a very warm welcome to you Crystal from me and I'm sure the rest of the guys here :)
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You won, David !
Everybody, including myself is persuaded that my blog is anything but informative (and lame ;D )
And I am really happy to join this forum - since I already can see here a lot of interesting information, which undoubtedly will help me to get new ideas and make my blog better.
Hi Crystal, Welcome to this forum. You are right, you will find much information on here that will 'help' your Blog...
I was one of those who visited your Blog yesterday. It is interesting to possibly 'new' guys who are looking. It seems that it is aimed at the younger lady, was that deliberate on your part?
"Crystal… Your advice is lame. It is obvious and offers no real ‘information’. I commend you on trying to run a blog but make it interesting otherwise the only people that will read this are lame ‘Oprah fans’.
I have been in China for a long time and I can assure you that there are many crazy, horny women that are ‘traditional’. They try to convince me that they are pure and innocent and that I am their uncle or big brother and within 30 minutes we are in bed having sex (or incestuous relations)..."
Forget idiots like this.. It is people like that, that gives westerners a bad name abroad...
Hope to see you back here...
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Crystal welcome to are little piece of the Internet.Take a look around tell us what you think.Don't be discouraged by some of the idiots posting on your blog.We get those kind of people here all the time.So just relax and enjoy..
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Crystal,
welcome to this site and i hope we see some input from you in the future. and as Maxx said dont worry about what
some idiots post. just keep running and posting with it and over time it will be a very informative blog for people who
are starting out or even here in China. every forum or blog seems to attract a few idiots and people who seem to think
they are the resident experts. dont let it stop you. also as far as one member here who asked you who invited you well
just so you know if you didnt already know this this site is open to anyone who would like to join
Ted
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I like her blog and though I may not have ran across much new information, if she confirms something that I read somewhere else it only goes to increase the credibility of the information. Hey, I want the relationship to work with my Chinese girlfriend so I'll take any benefit I can get. It sure doesn't hurt that Crystal is stop-you-in-your-tracks beautiful.
Welcome and feel free to browse the topics - there is a ton of information here.
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Crystal,
Welcome. I am sure you will find useful information here. And of course many of us will look at your blog too.
David,
I about fell out of my chair. She will kill you with kindness. She said you win? I don't think so. Hehe.
Shaun
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instead of people criticizing her maybe they should contribute to it and help to make it better.
i know i will try to do that as i read more of the blog. she is just trying to be helpful and she
shouldnt be criticized for that nor put down in a sense. people need to try to help more in the world
rather than be negative and i beleive her purpose is just that and it will grow over time as more people
look
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Hi Chystal, welcome to our site/forum .... I was the one that found you and posted your blog/site here .... and I really like your blog... I am open minded .. and welcome any new information/knowledge I find ... I am not naive, but I do welcome different points of view.
... I think someone got verbally spanked here and it was not you. I did realize you are younger, and your ideals are from a young persons view. I do not know that much about Chinese women or girls, as some of our members think they do, but you are Chinese, female and live in China ... so maybe you may know a little more than we realize. At least you are writing about relationships, wants, desires, and what Chinese women/girls are looking for, thinking about, and so forth ... if you would please, research, and maybe add to your blog: Relationships Chinese Women with Foreign Men.... it should be noted, that the maybe the majority of Chinese women are divorced, and maybe have given up on Chinese Men... and are looking beyond China. I do see many younger girls on Chnlove, that have profiles, there, and they are so young, and I wonder, why they have a profile on Chnlove?? Again, I welcome you !!
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You know I read Crystal's blog.In my own humble opinion.I think all the members need to read threw it.Like the people who posted before me.You can gather allot of useful information.And all this useful information.Does come from a Chinese woman.And isn't that the reason.We are all here.To help each other figure out.What is involved in marring a Chinese woman.
Confuses say man who think he knows it all.Is a man who knows nothing.Because he thinks he is to smart to learn any more.
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Wow! I never counted on getting so much support. I am very touched - thank you.
Yes, I indeed want to explore this site very carefully - so don't be surprised if at the beginning I will just sit here quietly and read, read, read. 8)
To answer some questions:
I am from Chongqing, but currently not living in China.
Who invited me to this forum? Nobody! With "Google Analytics" installed on my website it is easy to follow the source of incoming traffic, and see where people are coming from (in this case it was by clicking the link in the first post of this thread) :) Actually most people don't even suspect how much information they expose on internet by simply browsing it - which shouldn't, however, worry those with good intentions ;D
I wish that my late visit to internet (though not too late, cause I'm not in China) would be because I hanged out on town, but yesterday I came back very late from my two jobs - and just had time to post on this forum before jumping into bed. Now - it's 07:25 a.m. (hint! hint!) - and I must rush to work again.
So, thanks again for a very warm welcome.
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so what part of the world do you live in Crystal?? just curious
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Welcome here Crystal, I have went over many of your post. Imo I thought they were fun. I even contributed.
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And why do men with little or no body hair wimps??
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I did some snooping, I think she's in Israel. Ok, yeah, I was bored and curious too.
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Crystal,
Welcome to this Forum.
Your blog is yours. Write whatever you want. It's your avenue to express your thoughts and feelings. Don't let any readers/commenters persuade you otherwise. If they're that smart, tell them to start their own blog. Martin [ the creator of this Forum ], Arnold and myself have our own blogs.
I'm living in China with my Chinese wife. I haven't read your blog yet but how about adding a perspective on older Chinese ladies from your experiences with your mother, aunts or older female friends.
All the best
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I for one liked the site. It has some really attractive bits to it. Did I say bits?
And I like the idea behind the fact that by getting herself linked to this forum she will be doing herself a great deal of good.
Increase her popularity and the same time possible increase the ranking of this one with Google.
When we are ready we will get link to her site and get a back link to ours.
Anyone know of any other sites where we can pick up good back links?
Even in the early stages of our promotion of our new site the name of chnlove.info is prominent in our result listing when certain keywords are searched on Google.
Maybe the Irishman can tell us why? Presumably Google uses a different search criteria than some of the others.
Willy
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good questions and comments Willy, if anyone can answer that then Irishman can. Now if he can figure out how we
can get on here the normal channels in China that would be worth many + reps for him or if he cant then many - reps for him
lol!!!!!! couldnt resist that one hahaha
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Well i've been having a good little chuckle at some of the posts on this thread since i was last here yesterday. It seems that suddenly because Crystal is Chinese, and is of course female, has found her way to this site and registered, her blog has been elevated to a great, fun, interesting, useful, and believe it or not Informative site!!!! Hey!! like many of the comments, i quite liked the site it's self, and yes it is many of the stated atributes, ...including Fun. But at the moment it is anything but informative!!! Perhaps those that find it so, should point out the informative sections, like the stuff you didn't know before you visited Crystals site!!!
Now, that's not to say that the site can't confirm in instances, various bit's of personal experiences and other things, sure it can....
Do i see potential, sure i do!! Crystal seems to be of a more than above average intellect, with a more than an above average command of English. And from information she can assimilate from this Forum and of course other sites. She can, ...adding her own female slant on things, make her Blog site one of the ''better sites'' to make a point of visiting on a regular basis. But if she advocates '' all Chinese ladies'' in her blog, then she really needs to find out a little more about the older Chinese lady, and what's important to them, and what drives them towards western men. For sure the reasons will be far different than those of the younger girls/ladies.... Hell, she could have a blog for life here ..lol!!!, No seriously, ...If Crystal is that serious about the subject matter, she could turn her blog into a Forum in it's own right !!!
Look, if you think that i'm criticising Crystal, ....Think again, i went to her blog site from a post that started this thread, and read maybe 2/3rds or more of Cystals blogs, and the visitors comments that accompanied those blogs. I found little in the way of content in the actual blogs, and this was confirmed in many of the visitors comments, (...not just the one i perhaps shouldn't of quoted) I then came back to this Forum and posted what i had found.... but did comment on the youngness of the blog site and of the founder. And i did say i would go back at a later date, and check again to look for any progress. ....End of story as far as i was concerned!!! But NO, ...back comes the same old drivels, from the same person, that has to be answered, and on and on it goes!!!!
The so called offending post(s) was posted for the benefit of the Forum ...not for Crystals eye's!!! That she some how found this forum, registered and read my comments on her blog site is beyond my control. So it then suddenly becomes personal criticism, (which it was Not and was Never meant to be!!!!), from both herself and a good few of the so-called brothers. I'll be posting my reply to Crystal later by the way...
So now i'm being accused of, or at the very least it's been insinuated, that i think i know everything, and can't or won't learn anything new!! Yeah right!! hahaha!!! Funny enough, you do tend to pick-up the odd things here and there from living and working in a place for 8+ years, and living with a Chinese lady for 3+ years, ...but know everything, ...I wish!!!!
So yes i may know a lot more about China and Chinese ladies than most here, but i'm the ''First'' to stand up and admit when i am wrong about anything, unlike many here, that will fluff around trying to wiggle out of admitting anything wrong they have posted...
One things for sure, i am my own man, i don't run with the crowd as a Lemming. So, anything that i feel needs to be said, i will say it!! I don't go out of my way to upset others, but sometimes circumstances make it unavoidable, and i'm not one to apologise for which i feel, or know is correct. When i'm wrong, ...fine you will always get an apology from Me!!!!
So do i feel verbally spanked, ....''Do I Hell As Like'' ...Hurt feelings and sarcasm, doesn't amount to being verbally spanked, ...far far from it!!!, ...hahaha!!!!
Enough said for the time being!!!
David.....
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Yup. Neil did a good job - I am in Israel currently ;)
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If you are looking for some sites to link with I can advise you to go to Jocelyn's site Speaking of China (http://www.speakingofchina.com/) and check attentively the right sidebar; scroll down until you notice the title "Foreign Women + Chinese Men" and you will see there the list of 18 blogs. This is 20 sites (if you count also Jocelyn's and mine - since I already put your link on my blog; was someone here talking about exchanges? hahaha ;) ).
By the way, Jocelyn is the nicest person I have encountered on internet. You will understand it yourself after reading her blog.
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Hello Crystal,
I have also visited your site and I guess I fall between David5o's opinion and the majority. I did enjoy testing my ability to identify Asian girls from China - only got 12 out of 20, and rather had wished for a follow up to better identify Chinese ladies. I did notice the pictures were all of pretty young girls so trying to decide nationality was fun while admiring their graces.
Maybe some other experienced members can enlighten me but when I see all those advertisement banners on the site, does this mean that the website generates income when people click through to the banners?
Now everyone is entitled to make a means of living, and if this is Crystals means, then all the power for her. I agree the quality of her English and the presentation of her site is at a high level. This also leads me to believe that the blog site could be a business. I find reading the site akin to reading a teen gossip/fashion magazine here. After all many women magazines have surveys and quick hints and advice columns.
But then maybe this is her target audience. Even if it is a hobby for her, she is developing solid skills that will help in dealing with the future. After all, dealing with customer complaints is a necessity of all businesses.
Good Luck with you site 我认为您俏丽
Now if I can keep this thing balanced upon my nose while I drink a draft....I mean draft another reply
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Crystal,
also as far as one member here who asked you who invited you well
just so you know if you didnt already know this this site is open to anyone who would like to join
Ted
The way I read it was not a demand from David5o as to 'who invited you.' I read it as a question!
I am not voting for or against the decision that was made in council.
I have read the postings on this particular thread backwards and forwards and cannot find that there is anything here to 'convict' someone.
Having been involved with the law for a good deal of my working life then I can only imagine that there are other factors involved that we are not fully aware of.
As I see it most of his postings on this particular thread were as a sort of encouragement to her albeit in a roundabout way.
Willy
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So....
We are all encouraged here to make a definitive contribution to somebody's Blog, on the assumption that this blog is likely an income source for the founder ??...as well as an affiliation ?? if not an actual participation ?? by some alternate Chinese "Dating Sites" that we have spent countless thousands of words condeming in the past !!
I can recall the outrage over other Chinese ?? persons who attempted to use our Brotherhood for money making schemes.
I am apalled by the way we all seem to have collapsed into adulation of this blog...to me it is frivolous and of nowhere near the standard and intellectual content of much of our Forum.
I guess it proves that I am totally out of touch with the reality of what we were trying to achieve...and to read of the consequences of what this thread has caused fills me with hurt and anger.
See you guys.
It was fun for a while
David
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David,
some people, when they have crossed over that threshold into happiness, feel they don't need this forum anymore. They run off into the sunset and don't post anymore. Fair enough.
But most people feel that this was a very valuable resource when they were being scammed, when they knew less, when they hadn't found the love of their lives yet. I would venture to say that you were one of those people who benefitted from the collective wisdom, I seem to remember you saying as much. So was it only 'fun for a while' Is that all it was? Slightly disingenuous, I feel.
It seems a slight red herring to talk about collapsing into adulation about the blog. People have expressed different views - some like it, some don't, some half-like it. Ooh look - different views? On a forum? Shock horror!
Perhaps instead of thinking about the royal 'we', as if we were some collective, you might like to think that we are a group of individuals with very different views and opinions, with some mutual interests.
I would say that I am totally in touch with the reality of what I would like to achieve. God knows what the collective reality is of what 'we' were trying to achieve. We are evolving, yes, changing, yes. For the better? Well, you obviously don't think so. But, you know, horses for courses. You can't please all of the people all of the time.
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So long DavidE,
You fail to realize that the consequences of this thread has little to do with said particular's banning. It was coming a long time ago. Nobody on this Forum wrote anything about being affiliated with Crystal's blog or to help with any income making source . She mentioned it herself. She offers a viewpoint from a Chinese woman's perspective. What's wrong with that ? You saying it's not an added feature for our Forum ? If you read the postings, not everybody found her blog useful. We didn't ban those 'everybody'.
You're out of touch with the reality of this Forum. It's an INFORMATION source ... nothing more. You wrote ... "you're hurt and anger" ... You make it sound like somebody stabbed you in the back. I'm sure that there are other Forums out there that can meet your standard & intellect. Just remember that you yourself offered reckless abandon type postings in the past without thinking about what consequences it might cause the thread's original poster.
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i guess i will say the same as Chong goodbye and may there be a greener pasture for you elsewere. what happened should have happened months ago and it just ended on this note with a particular thread removed that was posted by that individual. but of course this doesnt surprise me and i think it wont many others
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So....
We are all encouraged here to make a definitive contribution to somebody's Blog, on the assumption that this blog is likely an income source for the founder ??...as well as an affiliation ?? if not an actual participation ?? by some alternate Chinese "Dating Sites" that we have spent countless thousands of words condeming in the past !!
I can recall the outrage over other Chinese ?? persons who attempted to use our Brotherhood for money making schemes.
I am apalled by the way we all seem to have collapsed into adulation of this blog...to me it is frivolous and of nowhere near the standard and intellectual content of much of our Forum.
I guess it proves that I am totally out of touch with the reality of what we were trying to achieve...and to read of the consequences of what this thread has caused fills me with hurt and anger.
See you guys.
It was fun for a while
David
David E, you're one of the best posters on this forum. Your posts are always intelligent and informative.
Once again I find myself agreeing with you, you seem to be in the minority but are always sensible. As soon as a pretty face shows up on this site, the majority of posters here will fall over themselves to please her. It has happened before and has happened again. You can bet if Crystal wasn't a pretty female, we wouldn't be seeing "welcome threads" or posters rushing to her defence at the slightest critique of her blog, or giving her reputation points just because she is a woman. I am not sure why, and it is quite sad behaviour. But it is their choice. So if posters like you are going to leave over something like this, it will be a big loss to the forum.
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As soon as a pretty face shows up on this site, the majority of posters here will fall over themselves to please her. It has happened before and has happened again. You can bet if Crystal wasn't a pretty female, we wouldn't be seeing "welcome threads" or posters rushing to her defence at the slightest critique of her blog, or giving her reputation points just because she is a woman. I am not sure why, and it is quite sad behaviour. But it is their choice. So if posters like you are going to leave over something like this, it will be a big loss to the forum.
That's a pretty shallow statement seagull. If you find an average looking Chinese middle age woman with lots of insight, we'll welcome her to the Forum also. Many of us 'welcoming' guys are already married or have a current lady. I, for one, have no related interest to read her blog. Her blog is information for newbies. And how exactly are we pleasing her ? What benefits have we given her ?
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As soon as a pretty face shows up on this site, the majority of posters here will fall over themselves to please her. It has happened before and has happened again. You can bet if Crystal wasn't a pretty female, we wouldn't be seeing "welcome threads" or posters rushing to her defence at the slightest critique of her blog, or giving her reputation points just because she is a woman. I am not sure why, and it is quite sad behaviour. But it is their choice. So if posters like you are going to leave over something like this, it will be a big loss to the forum.
That's a pretty shallow statement seagull. If you find an average looking Chinese middle age woman with lots of insight, we'll welcome her to the Forum also. Many of us 'welcoming' guys are already married or have a current lady. I, for one, have no related interest to read her blog. Her blog is information for newbies. And how exactly are we pleasing her ? What benefits have we given her ?
The only thing that is shallow is the behaviour of some of the posters, if it was a male who wrote the blog, it certainly would not attract the same sort of fanfare and attention from posters on this site. But each to their own. If people want to behave that way, it's their perogative. I'm not criticising them for it. All I was trying to do is convey to David E that I can understand his frustration and was hoping that valued contributor to this forum is not going to leave just because of this.
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The value of this forum to me is in providing information, mainly via people's personal experiences, but also via people's personal opinions. I'm sorry to have to break it to you, David, but it is not a forum for serious intellectual debate.
For example, if someone says that they have encountered x number of people over x number of years from a particular country and they extrapolate from this that they don't think the whole nation or group of people are trustworthy, that is just an opinion. Plus if that person doesn't trust surveys or statistics, just their own anecdotal experience, it remains just an opinion. What is does not constitute is an intellectual argument, by any stretch of the imagination. For that you need evidence to back up your argument, some intellectual rigour, rather than 'I just know'.
There is a reason the Mods are careful about politics and religion on this forum. Opinions and beliefs tend to fly about as if they are facts. No, they are only opinions and beliefs.
Is it really true that we are all falling over ourselves in adulation over Crystal's blog? Are all of us, with all our wealth of experience, being scammed by a pretty Chinese lady? Oh no! All of us have failed to learn the lessons of this forum. We are all going to go back to Chnlove and get scammed by a translator! Damn. Do you see how dangerous it is to generalise, rather than just give your opinion? Or maybe you genuinely believe that we have all been taken in. If you do, perhaps there is another forum for you, one which provides the unique brand of intellectual content you are looking for.
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The only thing that is shallow is the behaviour of some of the posters, if it was a male who wrote the blog, it certainly would not attract the same sort of fanfare and attention from posters on this site. But each to their own. If people want to behave that way, it's their perogative. I'm not criticising them for it. All I was trying to do is convey to David E that I can understand his frustration and was hoping that valued contributor to this forum is not going to leave just because of this.
I was not going to comment on this thread but I feel I should now. Seagull, you are being hypocritical in your statement. Don't say you are not criticising some posting members when you have done nothing other than criticise them for their actions.
David E seems to be upset for another reason. Something about someone trying to make money on their website from a connection to us, and us being encouraged to contribute to the website thus generating more money. I don't see a problem with contributing to her website. Making money from it may be a different story. I do not know how this works exactly so I will stop here on this.
My understanding is that this forum was created for western men searching for an asian wife to find help in understanding her mind, understanding her culture, the way the reputable agencies work, the scams that the agencies use to make money from you, support when your relationship falls apart...etc. etc. etc. My goal is to find an asian woman to be my wife. I do not care from whom the help comes from when I post something here asking for help with my situation. I will not care if it is a man or a woman, someone with a 280 IQ or a 2.8 IQ, the Dalai Lama or Larry Flynt, if the help lets me succeed in my quest then so be it.
As for being nice, cordial, falling over myself to greet a new female member, thats the way I am.
Dave C
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... if it was a male who wrote the blog, it certainly would not attract the same sort of fanfare and attention from posters on this site.
On the contrary, we should have more blogs from male members such as Martin's & Arnold's. Several other members started blogs about their trips but stopped. Blogs are a person's dairy about their life & perspective outlook, who are we to criticize what they write whether it's useful or useless information.
I would welcome any man's blog about his marriage to a Chinese lady. It would be valuable to this Forum.
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I have a domain registered already but my layout sucks. So if I can get someone's basic help with layout then I'd appreciate it.
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I have a domain registered already but my layout sucks. So if I can get someone's basic help with layout then I'd appreciate it.
RegnisTheGreat,
Maybe I should not say this but, why not PM Crystal and ask her for help with the lay out. Sure Arnold and Martin could help you out but she is much better looking! Hahaha! ;D
Dave C
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Regnis , I've started my Blog as a suggestion from Chong way back and I did not know too much about my PC at that time yet . I just clicked on this and that and now have a nice looking Blog ( I hope ) . The main reason for my blog was because of my Book , I'm planning to finish someday and to keep it all on paper and safe for later . I love also to just go back and kind of look at the long road I have traveled to be where I'm now . It might help other's in some way , but it is mainly for me not to ever forget to appreciate what I have and the help I also received from some of the Member's here .. especially Maxx and along with some other's .
I am really sad to see many of the other Blog's go to the wayside for some reason or another , like Irish's .. after meeting Sunny last Trip .. it stopped . I love to read other's experience's , if it's only for entertainment or to add something to my knowledge to help Qing and myself to better our Marriage .. if that's possible .
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Irishman made a couple posts, and then he forgot he had a computer...I have no idea what could have been occupying his mind while he was in China.
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Haha!, I really should update that one day :)
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We understand you have been busy lately Irishman. When this site is set up and running smooth we will expect it to be updated though. 8)
Dave C
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Irishman made a couple posts, and then he forgot he had a computer...I have no idea what could have been occupying his mind while he was in China.
Computer,.... Beautiful woman,..... computer..... beautiful woman.....????
Hehe it's a no brainer...
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busy planning his trip in sept for the big event