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Title: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on July 26, 2010, 12:24:15 pm
when i get a chance i will post the procedure that one must do when you request an emergency visa for at least 2 weeks.
i am flying back to Guangzhou tomorrow at 3pm and wednesday morning i will be at the consulate requesting what we could
do for this.

my mom passed away this morning at 320 am and i would very much like Sara to go with me back to the USA for at least two
weeks. i guess i will see just how compasionate the govt is on matters of this nature. will post the good or bad when i am aware
of it.

i hope they dont give us a big song and dance on how it cant be done because its very simple,visa,plane tickets, arrive,depart 2 weeks later

if its a no then i will start a big media campaign over the internet that will hopefully open up some eyes and i will be even worse than i was
when they stole my freakin suitcase in bejing. i will find NO to be totally unacceptable at this point and time for any reason they might give me.
so i hope it all works out or i might be the reason they stop all visa's from China.
i guess i just cannot accept govt bs right now and nor will i .  hell they might revoke my entry tickets in the future after all is said and done
ok
i should sign off  before i say something really negative :(





Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Rhonald on July 26, 2010, 01:40:33 pm
Ted my Sad but best wishes for you and your family at this time. Best hope that your wife can join you on the journey home.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Irishman on July 26, 2010, 02:35:17 pm
Ted I'm very sorry to hear about your mum, hopefully the government will look at your visa request with a human eye.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: shaun on July 26, 2010, 04:05:37 pm
Ted,

I am real sorry to hear about your mother.  I do hope you can get a emergency visa.  My prayers are with you.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on July 26, 2010, 05:41:55 pm
thanks i am sitting at the hotel now just waiting for the plane which is at 3pm today
and i get back to Guangzhou at 6 pm. thats the earliest plane out of here today that we
could get
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on July 26, 2010, 05:46:26 pm
been up all night talking to family because of the time difference and trying to get arrangements made
thank god for skype as the program works well in these times
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Arnold on July 26, 2010, 05:57:52 pm
It's hard for one to make arrangements of this sort's and keep a clear head while grieving for somebody as close as a Mom . Every Family needs one Person who stands strong and go through all the paperwork and surport other family members as well .
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: maxx on July 26, 2010, 06:07:49 pm
Ted I'm sorry to hear of the lose of your mom.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: RobertBfrom aust on July 26, 2010, 06:31:20 pm
Ted , Sujuan and I are sorry in this time of grief for you , I hoe the government red tae does not stuff you u , god bless .
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Scottish_Rob on July 26, 2010, 07:03:17 pm
Ted
I'm very sorry to hear this sad news...I hope they see sense and give you the visa's
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Paul Todd on July 26, 2010, 08:39:04 pm
Deepest condolences Ted. I know this must be difficult being so far from family at the moment. Both Ming Zhi and I wish you the best of luck at the visa office and as Irish said lets hope they see this from a human perspective. 
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Jimmy on July 26, 2010, 09:35:40 pm
I wish you the best on the Visa. I agree wholeheartedly with your feelings.  I am having similar feelings myself. Having been in China for only 6 weeks now. I am noticing some problems with mt heart. That is why I am retired at only 54 is due to the bad heart. I have had no problems for more than a year so figured the move to China will be OK.
Before I came I promised my wife we would never be separated again and I intend to keep the promise. And if I had to go back to the states for an operation or something like that I would really need her with me. Hopefully I won't need to go and I can get anything needs to be done later this year when she gets her visa in November or December.
I Know this is a tough time for you and hope you can hurry and get the visa so that you and you wife can breath easy about the trip home. sometimes just having the one task complete will make all of the other not seem so tough.

I am sure this sort of thing happens to people all of the time so please do keep us all up to date on how it is going for you. I have been wondering how it works as I am sure others are too.
Best wishes

Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Bee964 on July 28, 2010, 01:45:03 am
Ted,

Sorry to hear about your mom. I hope that you have no problem getting the visa. I wish you all the best with getting the visas.

Dave C
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on July 28, 2010, 01:56:09 am
Well went to the consulate and have to fill out an online form for an emergency meeting for the visa. they will  make a decision
in 24 hours so lets see what happens. thanks for all the kind words everyone who posted
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Jimmy on July 28, 2010, 06:46:26 am
Good luck Brother. I will be praying for you.

When you went to the consulate do they see you, Or your wife, or both?
I know for regular B2 visa they would see only her. Would not even let me in the building.
My wife and I tried for a tourist visa back when we first got married.
We really didn't expect to get it, but it cost only a couple hundred bucks to try.

But the passing of a parent,  or serious medical condition. I would hope they look a lot harder at those and give a lot more room for bending their rules.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on July 28, 2010, 01:01:22 pm
Jimmy,

what we are waiting for is an expedited interview for Sara only as to why we want to go back to the USA. When she gets the
appointment yes it will only be her in the room as i have to wait outside. we are supposed to hear about our appointment in
24 hours from sending the email. will post the outcome here
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on July 29, 2010, 09:31:30 am
today i recieved a call from the consulate for Sara to come in friday morning for her interview at 10 am.
the lady asked me a little about everything and said to make sure she doesnt forget her passport so
i am thinking maybe thats a good sign as they will put the visa in tomorrow??? we will see if not i will
sign out for a few years as they take me away to jail for going beserk for turning us down.

Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Rhonald on July 29, 2010, 11:15:04 am
I got my fingers and toes crossed for you Ted.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Arnold on July 29, 2010, 11:50:10 am
now .. now Ted ! Remember the 24 hour rule !! It's still on , even for YOU !!!

Good Luck of course .
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: shaun on July 29, 2010, 11:50:29 am
Good Luck Ted.  Common sense happens occasionally with the US Government.   
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: maxx on July 29, 2010, 06:29:52 pm
Ted good luck.It shouldn't be  problem for your wife to get a emergancy visa.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on July 30, 2010, 02:40:15 am
Well we just got home from our wonderfully effecient consulate in Guangzhou. we arrived at 9.30 for the 10 am
appointment and there were about 200 other chinese there. Sara had to get her card and then we went upstairs
and she got in line. They wouldnt let me in on that side as it was open to all the k1 visa applicants. so i went to starbucks
over by the bus station and waited. at 11am they called her name and she went into room 7 and sat down. the man asked
her why she wanted to go to USA and she told them my mom died. he asked for her passport and typed something into the
computer and while he was doing that he said"" so your mom died"" and Sara said NO Teds mom died and thats why we are
going to the USA. he looked at our online form and asked who is this and Sara said thats my dads name. and he said pay
20 rmb for the courrier fee and your application for the visa is APPROVED. they will send the passport to you at your house.

that was it 10 minute if that interview and approval.

thought it would be more difficult and he didnt want to see the house book or bank books when she asked said no dont need
that its approved told her to go to the desk and pay the 20 rmb fill out the slip and she is done.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: RobertBfrom aust on July 30, 2010, 02:49:48 am
That is great news Ted , so do you know a time line from now , regards Robert .
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Irishman on July 30, 2010, 05:25:07 am
Great news Ted, happy that common sense prevailed in the end.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Paul Todd on July 30, 2010, 05:47:01 am
Good news Ted, I'm glad they saw sense and gave Sara the visa. Have a safe trip home and I hope all goes well.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: shaun on July 30, 2010, 06:25:10 am
Ted, good news.  It's kind of one of thus happy-sad moments.  Have a safe trip.  Don't forget us here.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on July 30, 2010, 07:05:25 am
 i want to thank everyone for the kind words and support here. we are booking the tickets and by the prices
i do think i am buying a small interest in the airlines so maybe i could discount tickets later since i am a minority
owner now after i pay this     hahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::)
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Rhonald on July 30, 2010, 10:36:18 am
Ted I am glad that common sense prevailed. One trick question they asked and was enough proof for them. A great result but because of unfortunate circumstances, so we understand how this trip for her and you will be both of excitement and sadness. My heart goes with your journey - take care and godspeed.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on July 30, 2010, 10:41:33 am
Rhonald,

thanks for all your kind words

Ted
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Arnold on July 30, 2010, 10:56:38 am
Ted , I think because your a MOD .. things went easier for you at the Consulate .
Good thing you didn't mention Willy during .
Have a safe Trip . It will be sad for you and both sad and exciting for Sara to get to see the US even under those cirumstances .
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on July 30, 2010, 11:00:52 am
they showed Sara Willy's picture and asked her if she knew him but i had already told her to deny any knowledge
of knowing the Zhongshan Bandit
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: shaun on July 30, 2010, 12:02:34 pm
Just a thought.  Who is going to keep the Zhongshan Bandit out of trouble while you are gone?  :-\
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: maxx on July 30, 2010, 07:12:44 pm
Ted glad to hear that it worked out.In your favor.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on July 30, 2010, 09:52:20 pm
Well here we go!!! Looks like my older brother the executrix of my moms will had the funeral showing last night. I called there this
morning and talked to my son and he said they had the 3 hour viewing last night per my brothers instructions.

to give you an update my father is buried in Santa Nella National Cemetery because of his veteran status and my mom will be cremated
and placed over his right shoulder. now my brother told everyone the veterans wanted it done as soon as possible but i dont think so or
that they would do that. it was all prearranged for next week so we could get back there.

my  feelings are that my no good older brother is just more concerned with his part of the estate because he never could seem to hold
a job and was still living with her at 65 yrs old.

so now we have to decide if we go now to settle some of my personal stuff and spend 32,000 rmb for tickets or wait as i see later this year
the price is 11,450 for roundtrip tickets. very embarrassing to have a family member like this but what can you do. Willy told me to stay here so i dont do anything stupid because i am so livid with my brother. all this running around and asking for an emergency visa for a funeral with the embassy and this knucklehead makes me look bad dont know if i should email the consulate or visit them to tell them this new development. just all bad and not good for considering the circumstance
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Paul Todd on July 30, 2010, 10:11:33 pm
Hi Ted

I would listern to the " Zhongshan Bandit" I love that name I sort of see him with a Zoro mask on. Anyway a cooling off period might not be a bad idea. With Sara having a visa valid for a year it gives you the time and space to plan your trip on your own terms as well as not paying such a large amount for flights. I would not tell the consulate anything, why complicate the situation.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on July 30, 2010, 10:39:14 pm
im just concerned that it might effect any future visas we will aplly for?? it just looks bad that we say this
and then he pulls this stunt
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: shaun on July 30, 2010, 10:45:10 pm
Ted, 2 points.  1.  Don't you have stuff remaining in your mothers house?  Do you want to leave it there guarded by your brother?  2. Don't take the chance with future Visa's.  Go!!!!

Get thee to a planery.

Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on July 30, 2010, 10:56:54 pm
my stuff is being taken by my son who lives in stockton to his place. he will put it all in his garage
till i decide what to do with it. he was working on that when she went into the nursing home so im
not to worried about that.

besides that stuff could have been replaced if need be

Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: maxx on July 30, 2010, 11:59:48 pm
Ted sneak into the third floor of the U.S. consulate.there is a coffee shop.All around the coffee shop.Is travel agencies selling tickets.To the U.S.When me and my wife were there at the consulate.I looked at the prices posted on the windows of the travel agency.They had some good prices.Because there is allot of competition in that area.So I'm thinking you can get a good deal on some airplane tickets.Take your wife with you.Let her deal with the travel agency.I wold be willing to bet after she gets done with them.It could be even a better deal.When I was there the travel agency's started to open there doors at about 10:00 am.

I think you really need to use that visa as soon as possible.Because all of the visa's are on a computer somewhere.And if latter you file for visa for your wife to live in the states.It could throw a red flag in the system.Then it could cause problems for you and your wife latter.I think I would get this all sorted in the next day or two.I wouldn't mention any of this to.The case worker.That could also throw a red flag latter on.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on July 31, 2010, 12:07:05 am
Maxx  we did do that and the prices in all those places were even more than online sites

i think it is best to go talk with the consulate and explain the situation so later it isnt
a problem just what im leaning to do  if any body has an attorney now maybe they could ask this question to see
what they say?????????????
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: mustfocus on July 31, 2010, 03:16:08 am
Hey Ted,

I'm with Maxx on this one.  In Sara's visa history (don't believe that it's only held for a certain period of time), the VISA has been entered as an emergency visa.  If too much time shows between issuing and actually using it, you could encounter problems later on.

Your brother might not be good, but don't let him screw up your future plans as well.  You can easily throw a wrench into his plans by getting a wills and estates lawyer (unfortunately I only know ones in Toronto) to challenge the will or him being the executor (even the suggestion of that might slow him down).  I won't pretend to know that much about US law, but there has to be something you can do.

I'm not sure which airport(s) might be within driving distance, however you might want to consider some alternate airports.  Also check with some airlines directly to see if they have a berevement fare.  Some of them do...  I'm not sure what the exact requirements are, but I would assume that a copy of the death certificate would be one of them.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on July 31, 2010, 03:20:25 am
i think i will just go down and takle it head on and explain the situation to them and see what they say.
right now its the only thing to do as the funeral is over and going back now for that price would be just to
gather some things and sell some things and ship some things and i can do that any time.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on July 31, 2010, 08:28:27 pm
thanks Mike,

that is exactly what i am going to do because i feel that something might come back and haunt us a year or two later
when we try again. always felt honesty best policy and i am sure if i go there then later on it will reflect good on us
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Vince G on July 31, 2010, 08:42:19 pm
Well Ted I do know the laws of the US but Wills and Estates differ from state to state. As executor your brother just has the duty of the will (if there is one?). Average wills, he gets to bring the paperwork and the will to the probate court and the court will say if he is executor or not. Any of the estate may be split depends on the will. If you need help with something let me know I've become an expert since the start of this year.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on July 31, 2010, 08:57:11 pm
Vince,

my concern is not the will and anything i will get, my despair was that we flew from biejing to guangzhou to get things
done so i and sara could go back to see mom 1 last time and that knucklehead moved everything forward by 1 week??

so we did all that stuff for 3 days for nothing and on top of that my mom is already cremated so going back for her is just
not the same as i wont be able to see her for one last time.

he did manage to have her change the life insurance to have him recieve all which after talking to my little brother is not
good but we dont really need that money it is just how it was done that concerns us. also makes me wonder what else
was going on as i was the one in stockton as everyone else lives elsewere so i was the one who helped mom and kept
an eye on what was going on at the house. damm it seems he just went to work making changes after i came to china.

one of lifes injustices---- you cant pick your own relatives-------

and he lied to everyone about our status on coming back which makes one wonder WHY that is why no one called us on
the change
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: shaun on July 31, 2010, 09:45:07 pm
Ted,

Who knows why people do what they do.  When my father's third wife died he called me and I told him it would take us three days to get there.  He then told his brothers and sisters that I would not be there.  When I arrived my uncles and aunts looked at me like  :o.  One said I thought you were not coming.  I said I had always planned to come.  No one called or anything.  It just goes that way sometimes.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Vince G on July 31, 2010, 10:17:19 pm
Yes I'm almost in the same boat, all the backstabbing I've endured this year and even before? My sister wanted my dad to sign over everything to her? Making sure I don't get anything or my mom? She didn't realize (till the last days of his life) that he and I were the closest (3 of us). Currently it's my cousin, giving nothing but lies and not even good ones? Here's a sample, my grandfather owned a home. Bought it in like 1920. He passed away about 1970 and the house stayed in his name till recent. With no one in the family left to live there we sold it. My cousin (the executor) says the buyer wants a title search, OK no problem, I said it shouldn't take long. She emails me this BS, the title search will take a long time to do since there were so many "owners" and most have passed away? WTF? I emailed her back with demands which she never answered so lawyer #2 & 3 got what I wanted. Lawsuit #2 in progress. Idiots
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on July 31, 2010, 10:54:10 pm
wow vince what a mess
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Vince G on August 01, 2010, 01:18:18 am
That's just the top of the cream. There's much more involved goings on. Hey! I have forewarned them not to screw around. Having been a contractor and doing accounting you learn allot. I use to write 2nd and 3rd mortgages and worked with a private bank. You get to know the in's and out's. IF you stay quiet they walk right over you.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on August 01, 2010, 02:56:03 am
i guess everyone has a few in their family. to bad it takes a death or other tragedy to bring out
the true colors
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: shaun on August 01, 2010, 05:23:09 am
Ted,

When I was pastoring a church I alway hired an off duty police officer to sit in the home of the deceased during the funeral, burial and reception.  You'd be amazed at the number of family members that will go back to the house to lift a few items when no was looking.  They were always shocked and had a lame excuse when they entered the house.  It is sad really.

All I can say is protect yourself during these times because the family goons come out.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Vince G on August 01, 2010, 08:25:55 am
We had the house thing too. The executor went to the house and supposedly collect all the paperwork needed, which I know she didn't get and we were told we can not go to the house? **** you it's my house? My sister did go and grabbed some photos but there wasn't much left there and nothing I wanted. The home I live in was my uncles and it was left to me only so I guess they're all pissed at that too.   

But your right Shaun. I've seen and heard of it many times. Sharks
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on August 01, 2010, 11:11:16 am
reminds me of the old bobby darin song
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Arnold on August 01, 2010, 03:24:43 pm
Man , this just brings back what I had to deal with .. with one of my Step-daughter's ( the youngest ) . First she accused me
of using the Money my late Wife's ( her Mom ) life insurance to finance my trip's to china . When in fact , I payed for a Policy of
only $5000 for her . When her funeral cost me near $ 29,000 . Claming , that was her money . haha
Second , she also layed it on my finding a second Wife again so soon and tells me about her grandma NEVER got married again
after her grandpa died . That is LOVE she told me . Now this brings it also to the front line , she thought , I just now have to wait
for him to kick the bucket and receive the house and colect on my other two Life insurance's . Mind you , she is the most religious
member of this Family . I can see her now , that I ruinned her plans for her future . Money hungry Bi... .
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Vince G on August 01, 2010, 05:31:56 pm
I have a hard time with this (money hungry people). I'm not like that at all.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on August 01, 2010, 08:55:06 pm
thats not a good thing either Arnold. does she cause you any problems today now that you
have brought your new wife to the USA or has she given up with the nonsense.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Jimmy on August 02, 2010, 03:57:37 am
My Mom died first and My sister did manage to talk my dad to sign everything to her Via her son His only grand son.
After dad died I had disowned her and her son. And apparently so did the rest of the Clan.
And she just can't seem to understand why. It was not easy to just walk away and let her have it and watch all of my childhood and such just disappear.
I mean the rotten b++ch would not even give up some pictures that my mom had saved for me.
And it still makes me angry to think about.  But to spend a lot of money and time and stress to fight her over it.
For some reason did not seem worth it anymore.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on August 02, 2010, 04:02:02 am
you know i want to thank you guys for some of the posts you made about bad family members. it makes me feel
better that i am not alone in this and have the only deadbeat brother out there. im still waiting for Sara's visa to arrive at the
house and then i will go to the consulate to explain the developments and see what they say. i always felt its best
to be honest and let them know and at a later date nothing comes back to bite me and Sara
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on August 02, 2010, 04:10:21 am
i will also post the results here from visit after i go to the consulate
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Jason B on August 02, 2010, 04:23:36 am
Good luck Ted, hopefully the consulate will be understanding.
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on August 02, 2010, 04:38:30 am
thanks Jason
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on August 04, 2010, 04:27:15 am
well the emergency visa did finally arrive. almost one week from when we were there and its good for multiple entries
for Sara
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Willy The Londoner on August 07, 2010, 11:20:36 pm
Just a thought.  Who is going to keep the Zhongshan Bandit out of trouble while you are gone?  :-\

What this about the Zhongshan Bandit.  Never Heard of him! Ugh!

Willy
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on August 07, 2010, 11:32:38 pm
good pic need to get it down to the psb building as they are looking for THE BANDIT
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on August 09, 2010, 06:41:32 pm
 well i went to the consulate today and spoke with them about the circumstances surrounding the visa and i was
 told that its all good. the visa was issued and is good for 1 year with multiple entries so we are able to use it at
 anytime during that year. they also said dont forget to bring her back to china >:(  sometimes they just say the right
 things  hahahah
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: shaun on August 09, 2010, 06:47:01 pm
Great Ted. So when do you think you will travel to the US now?
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Rhonald on August 09, 2010, 10:30:40 pm
Good news Ted and if your wife isn't going to use the visa any time soon.....maybe my wife can borrow it for a short while?
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on August 09, 2010, 11:03:48 pm
good idea Rhonald maybe we could rent the visa out to people hahaha
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: shaun on August 10, 2010, 06:04:22 pm
Oo... Oo...  Oo... Ted, can I be your first customer?  ;D :o :o :-\  How much will this cost?
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on August 10, 2010, 06:11:11 pm
i could make an offer you cant refuse  8)
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: shaun on August 10, 2010, 07:43:07 pm
Why do I get the feeling that beef jerky will have something to do with this?  ::) :P
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: ttwjr32 on August 10, 2010, 07:57:05 pm
yea yea yea  promises you never keep ::) ::)
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Bee964 on August 10, 2010, 10:37:43 pm
Did someone forget the jerky for the Ambassador? Say it aint so Ted!

Dave C
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: shaun on August 11, 2010, 10:17:46 am
extenuating circumstances!!! :-[
Title: Re: emergency visa's
Post by: Bee964 on August 11, 2010, 03:27:43 pm
Ted,

I know a place to get some fantastic jerked pork in Singapore! It was some of the best jerked meat I have ever had. Getting cravings now so I will stop. ::)

Dave C