China Romance
All About China => Your trip to China => Topic started by: Pineau on October 15, 2010, 12:59:13 pm
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I am in Guangzhou and have just returned to my hotel room and finished reading a heart breaking letter from the woman I left in Dalian. I am ready to quit now. I have emotionally devastated this woman and I don’t know how I can ever make it up to her. I do not recommend it to anyone my plan to anyone. It just hurts too much . I don’t want to hurt anyone else. I am going to stay in Guangzhou and pursue the woman I came here to meet.
Pineau
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Pineau , we had many Men that thought seeing more than one Lady is a good plan . I myself was always against it personally , because .. just that very reason NOT to have it come to this . We all make mistakes thinking our plan is always the best . You can't undo it now , sweet words wont make them feel better .. whats done is done . You have learned the lesson the hard way , hurting someone .. but sometimes it is the other way around and don't forget that . Of course it's not right now to think it's okay , they do it to us . Like you said , concentrate a the Lady in GZ now and give her ALL of your attention . Hope it will let you forget , the others ever happen .
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I have to agree with Robert on this one. In the case of my wife, we did not have a marriage fee, but she did have an introduction fee. So for every man that came to visit her, there would be a 3000 RMB cost. I am sure that every agency has a different fee schedule. Excellent point Robert.
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Martin is correct.My wife meet and greet fee was 3,000 Rmb.So at the time 240.00 U.S. dollars
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Forget about the money. What is more important that several women have had their hopes risen and then smashed by one selfish man. No other way to say it. But we wonder why women do not fall over backwards for us foreigners.
Just the second reason I haved heard today that will set parents up against us 'foreigners' courting their daughters.
So no voices of sympathy for the guys, that has been self inflicted by ignoring advice. Save that for those that have been hurt.
Willy
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I hear you Willy and I have no excuses. I somehow justified this idea because of the terrible things that a few ladies and some agencies have done to me. But I have hurt some innocent people and that causes me much pain to think about. Especially when I see the hopes that they put into the chance of a lifetime meeting. I have met several ladies on this trip and at times felt as though I was on a job interview with the ladies asking probing questions about my health and physique. It was easy for me to take a pass on those ladies. But most of them were soft hearted gentle women looking to fulfill their dream. The two I am most impressed with are the one in Guangzhou and the one in Dalian. These two are very special to me. I think it is not only hard on the ladies but also on me. I let myself get too close to these two. It was hard to say good bye to the one in Dalian after spending just two days with her.
I have also listened to some stories about Chinese and foreign men taking advantage of these ladies. There are some real low-life scum men in this world.
Pineau
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I hear you Willy and I have no excuses. I somehow justified this idea because of the terrible things that a few ladies and some agencies have done to me. But I have hurt some innocent people and that causes me much pain to think about. Especially when I see the hopes that they put into the chance of a lifetime meeting. I have met several ladies on this trip and at times felt as though I was on a job interview with the ladies asking probing questions about my health and physique. It was easy for me to take a pass on those ladies. But most of them were soft hearted gentle women looking to fulfill their dream. The two I am most impressed with are the one in Guangzhou and the one in Dalian. These two are very special to me. I think it is not only hard on the ladies but also on me. I let myself get too close to these two. It was hard to say good bye to the one in Dalian after spending just two days with her.
I have also listened to some stories about Chinese and foreign men taking advantage of these ladies. There are some real low-life scum men in this world.
Pineau
I hear what you say but it is no excuse whatsover to involve innocent people in what sounds to be a 'vengeance' campaign.
I think your last lines says it all. It is men like this that has resulted in Myself and Ted closing our agency.
Willy
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Well it doesnt surprise me that it has turned out like this. What ever makes a man think its ok to
come to China to visit a few ladies and pick one is beyond me. Its a formula for disaster. Why come
here in such a rush? Wait until you find the one who steals your heart and then come and spend a
few weeks with her. What do you or can you accomplish in a few days??? This is not like a tv show
THE BATCHELOR were women line up for a chance to get with a man.
Even after some time of being with a woman as i have been there are problems that develop and
need to be worked thru so this takes a total commitment from both parties. I think the ladies who
didnt want to see you anymore made the right decision. And now you like the 2 who are at this
time havent told you to get lost completely.
Having lived here and also having the dating site i have talked with many ladies here. They always lead
the conversation to how did i meet my wife? I tell them the process and how we talked and commited to
each other. Well thats when i hear the stories like this from them saying how men came here on an interview
process. They always say i hope i can finally meet one like you. Now i am far from the best man out there but
what they liked was i didnt play i found one and tried to work it out with just the two of us.
What they like was the commitment. There are far to many who just think they can come here and play. No
matter how you look at it thats what this looks like. Come for visit play around and move to the next one. These
ladies will commit to you if you show you are also commited.
If when starting out your worried about a scam then you should not even be looking for a lady here. Yes many
agencies have poor practices but there is a way around that. Just demand direct contact and if it doesnt happen
move to the next one. All the agencies dont have these bad practices.
And when you find a real one she has probably been used like this or knows of someone who has so why do you
think they start out slow. They are looking for the commitment.
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Well put Willy and Ted .
I've been against this more than one Lady deal for some three years now . I try'd to tell them ( the ones that thought this was the best way ) on the Official over and over .. it's not ok . But these are only words coming from someone they don't know or care about , so do they listen ? No !
How often was it incouraged even on this Forum about have a Plan 'B' plan 'C' if it fails on Plan 'A' . Well I tell you my Plan 'B' would have been .. I'm here and now I can have been .. let's see/check out this City ( Shanghai ) I came to Visit and go back and maybe try again or not . how many times have we said , let's turn the table .. how would you like it ? Sorry MR. Foreigner , I need to see some other Men first before I decide . That really makes me Sick . This is NOT a Meat market now , is it ?
This has happened to both my Sister's ( Min & Lily ) too .. Men coming here and nothing but Lies lies lies .
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I don't see anything wrong with meeting more than one lady.
First of all, Pineau's been married to a Chinese woman once before so he's not a newbie. Secondly, he's had bad experience with agencies. How many men in this Forum went to China only to find out that the lady wasn't who she was and then the agency used the "bait & switch". Well, the guy's heart gets broken too. Then most of us advised him that he should have made a plan "B" before he came. Or how many men went to China with the intention of meeting just one woman only to find out that there's no chemistry ? Then most of us tell him to meet others and not waste the trip.
This is dating reality ... hearts get broken. You have to find a woman that you click with. This is no different than the 'speed dating lunches" where you essentially 'interview' 10 women within 10 minutes.
Pineau is travelling thousands of miles; he should have 'options'. Many men have written to two women on Chnlove. After 10 or so letters, they choose one ... and the other woman's heart is broken. Pineau's just doing it face-to-face. Our golden rule here is that you don't know a woman fully until you meet her in person.
Sad to say this but recently, there has been several cases of separation among our membership ... both in marriage and in dating. You REALLY have to know a woman completely before proposing. Pineau's choosing one that he feels a connection with over the other woman.
How did this get from one man breaking one woman's heart to 'men are scums and are here to play & sleep with Chinese women' ?
Willy, you wroted about your dating experiences in China ... dating/sleeping with many until you finally met your wife. I'm sure that you broke many hearts. How is it any different than what's Pineau's doing ? This isn't a personal attack but an observation.
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Dear Pineau
Please remember -what I'm about to say,is not meant to be mean spirited-But congratulations- it sounds like you have just grown up a bit.
Alright maybe there was just a little mean spirit there :D but I swear it was NOT just aimed at you (as you have already learned) but instead is for the next fellow who goes China with plan A,B, or C. We need to remember that China is the ONLY country in the world where the female suicide rate is higher than the male suicide rate. We need to remember that many, many of these ladies are made to feel inferior to males, sometimes by their families, society,old boyfriends,ex-husbands etc,etc. So when a man rejects them or "toys" with their emotions they feel that HE must be right and that she is not worthy of love.
Not to mention the fact that many of these ladies are Buddhists, and believe that they must have done something wrong, to deserve the karma that just bit them in the A**.
I myself, feel it is always wrong to play with anothers' heart strings and we all need to remember those strings can be easily broken.
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Willy, you wroted about your dating experiences in China ... dating/sleeping with many until you finally met your wife. I'm sure that you broke many hearts. How is it any different than what's Pineau's doing ? This isn't a personal attack but an observation.
Two things I point out. Every women I dated was just a date they knew that from the start. Not one of them was under any illusion that it was anything more than that. I never travelled thousands of miles to see them just took a 7 rmb taxi ride. If they wanted me in bed then I would oblige. If they were not ready for that then nothing happened. In some cases it was just clinical in temporarilly removing the stress some women had built up in a solo state. One many occasion I travelled home in the mornings with the feeling that I HAD BEEN used. A happy feeling none the less!!!!!
But what I take exception to was 'sleeping with women' - there was never any time for sleeping!! How does the phrase go. 'What I could do all night now takes me allnight!'
Willy
For the record I never did bed the only one I did travel thousands of miles to see!!
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There's a factor that seems to be skipped over. Obviously I don't have a problem with guys meeting more then one woman on a trip. But I think it is how you handle it and what you say or promise them that makes the trouble. If your telling them all the same thing like you love them and want to marry but going there to check them out then your deceiving them and maybe yourself as well. Leading them on is mean spirited and the wrong thing to do.
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maybe if a guy has been able to have success on such a trip he could tell us how to do that? without causing all these problems.
Mike,
I can relate to what your saying. I wouldn't do it this way either! To each his own! He isn't a noob with this either, as Chong pointed out. Some post here with absolutely no experience butt I guess that's ok. :o
This is a two way street!!! Those with experience can use it or lose it. Pineau was kind enough to post his experience and was expressing his regret. We are all human right??? Everybody should respect this!!! Those that are new should be able to read and learn this may not be a good way to deal with it! Being here, in China, I see both sides of this particular coin! This isn't a matter of who's right and who's wrong. This is Pineau's experience and he's showing his regret. Live and learn guys!!! Don't be in such a attack mode like some individuals with absolutely no experience! >:( People should be able to express what's up without being attacked by a clique or individuals without experience! This is a forum right??? ::)
dude!
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Two people two sets of emotions two lives.At no point and time is it ok to play with somebodies life.Or thiere emotions.This is not speed dating.For the woman.They have spent about 2 months of there salary.To even be listed on Chnlove.Yes we do spend allot of money and time.And do fly 6,000 to 7,000 miles.But it is not anywhere close to 2 months of my salary.If it is close to 2 months of your salary.Maybe you shouldn't be doing this until you get your salary where it needs to be.Love will not support you entirely.You are going to need some cash.
For those of you.Who think the major expense is over.After you get the woman to your country.It is not true.You do not just set these woman on a shelf like a trophy.Each and everyone of my bills.Has come close to doubling since my wife has come to the states.From the food bill.All the way to the water bill.And that is to say nothing of the doctor bills.Hospital bills.clothes for your new wife.personell care products.Entertainment.
So why do this.If it is so much of a bother.And so expensive.Because I met a woman.Who I love.That was either silly or crazy enough to follow me half way around the world.Leaving everything behind that she ever knew..So maybe I can act like the man in the relationship.And take care of my wife.She has given up so much to be with me.
Granted every one wants a sure thing.When we decide to do this.And make the trip to China..We struggle and vent are rage.At are governments.We vent are rage against custom and culture issues.The laungage issues.
Did I ever tell you this was easy?Did I ever tell you this was cheap? Did I threaten you with physical violence?.Did I hold a gun to your head? Each and everyday of your life is a choice.We all make choices everyday on how we choose to live are life.And sometimes those choices effect other peoples life's.So what do you choose today.Do you choose to try this.Or do you choose to try this half way.And treat it like a booty call.Messing around in somebody else's hopes and dreams.
I cannot see a problem writing to just one woman.Putting your efforts to try to connect with just the one woman.If it doesn't work it doesn't work.You either stop trying this.Or you try again.Simple choices.That only effect you.And the woman you were trying to hook up with.You are not leaving broken hearts all over China.And making the rest of us look like schmucks.Who just want to play.with the girls.
So what do you do if this goes of the tracks.You have a back up plan.For the sake of argument.I was going to go back to hong Kong.And then take a plane to Thailand.I have since learned that was a real stupid plan.I can go to any street corner in China.And truly attractive girls.Will come to me and start talking to me.Ive ben invited to thiere homes.Ive ben invited to eat with them.Or just spend the day with them.So you will never lack a woman's companionship in China.
If this approach still fails you.You can always have the agency name address and phone number.In the city where you will be staying.Most of the time If you call the agency.They will pick you up at your hotel.And introduce you.To other ladies.So your not out of options.If the lady that you have ben writing to do not connect
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Excellent post Max
you hit the hammer on the nail as we English would say
complete, honest ,truth.
Would be excellent for the newbie's to read , before embarking on their journey to find their love in china
well scripted max well done :) :) :)
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Chong, Thank you. Well put. There are some scumbag guys on the loose in China. I do not consider myself one of them.
I did not take any of the comments here a personal attack. There are obviously some strong feelings of protection for Chinese ladies in this group of guys. I feel the same way.
But just for the record...
I don’t know how to say enough that I am sorry without sounding less sincere. But I do deeply regret that feelings have been hurt and people have been disappointed. I will accept the responsibility and try to make up for it moving forward. I had a chat with two ladies yesterday and they have told me that are now corresponding with American men and are delighted with the possibility of them coming to visit China. So it sounds like they have rebounded nicely. If I could do something for the woman in Dalian I would feel somewhat redeemed. So if anyone here has been unlucky in finding someone special, I know a marvelous 46 year old woman in Dalian. I am hoping for a happy ending for her.
I have not lied to anyone or abuse anyone other than to conceal the entire details of my visit. I have always told them that my intention for visiting China was two fold. Look into teaching positions and I AM LOOKING FOR A WIFE. Both are true. NO I do not consider China a meat market. I have been married to a Chinese woman before and I do respect them. .
When I mentioned the “interview” I did not mean that I was interviewing them,THEY WERE INTERVIEWING ME. Two of the women showed up to our meeting with a check sheet of questions for me to answer so obviously they had multiple candidates to choose from other than me. One brought some friends and a translator (human).
Regardless of whether it is OK to have plan A, B and C, someone got hurt and I don’t like it. If I had followed my own rules of not getting to close this would not have happened. So I choose not to do it any more and I don’t recommend it to others.
China is a wonderful place to find a good wife . It is also full of women that just want to meet you and get to be your friend. I met two young ladies in Beijing who just wanted to hang out with a westerner for a few days. Nothing wrong with that. I have not asked any of these ladies for sex or to “sleep with me” That is not why I am here. But I wouldn’t refuse if asked. I am getting old but I am not dead.
Pineau
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Now the good side of this.
When I decided to meet this woman in Guangzhou it was because she and I have been corresponding off and on for several months and I sort of promised her I would come say hello and take her and her daughter out for dinner. My first impression of her when we met online was that she looked like a frumpy old school mom from her real photos. And her “good” photos seemed to be “enhanced” And when we talked on QQ she seemed somewhat immature. She is nothing like that at all. She is younger that me but having experienced some cruel men (one was an American) and raising her daughter alone, she is very mature. And she is far from a frumpy old school teacher. She looks very nice in a pair of jeans.
She is also not stupid. When I told her I was going to leave on Monday , she looked at me and said Gerry don’t go but if you do go please don’t see any more women on your trip, and please return to Guangzhou when you are finished. I was surprised that she had figured it out and knew all along. She knew already before I arrived what I was up to. She tracked me through our correspondence as I was moving around China. She didn’t know my schedule but she figured out my agenda. After I arrived she did all she could to keep me busy and close to her from morning until evening. She is a clever lady and I am enjoying getting to know her. She is lovely and funny and giggles most of the time. She has taught herself English be watching American TV shows and her broken English makes her that more cute. She has won me over. I am going to stay here another week and try to figure out what to do next.
Pineau
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Pineau, sometimes things happen for a reason. Maybe you found the reason?
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Don't worry about breaking someone's heart. If a woman really cared about you, she would want you to find your true love. There's the old saying ... "If you love him/her, set him/her free, if he/her comes back, it was meant to be". The woman in Dalian is 46 years old, she's had her heart broken before and lived through it. She's only upset because her meal ticket out of China wants to meet another woman. Harsh ??? But the truth.
Maxx, it doesn't matter if a woman spends two/three/six month's salary to be listed with Chnlove. If a guy comes over and there's no physical attraction, it ain't going to matter. I experienced this firsthand. When I went to Shenyang, I knew that the lady's father forked over money to the agency. We just didn't click.
Finding a woman in China is like 'speed dating'. You have a chance encounter on the street with a lady [ as you described form your experiences ] ... well, you have just one minute to like her or not ... because then she's gone forever if you don't make your move.
The bottom line ... what works for one guy may not work for another. As others noted above, nobody's right or wrong ... just opinions.
Pineau ... take your time in GZ, you don't know when you'll be back soon. Good wishes.
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........"If you love him/her, set him/her free, if he/her comes back, it was meant to be".
NOW I UNDERSTAND..... ??? :) :) :)
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Well it looks like some good might come of this good luck!!
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Well its good to know it worked out well for you. Is this the lady from Guangzhou or Dalian?
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Thanks Ted , that was going to be my question to , regards Robert .
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This is the lady in Guangzhou and her daughter. I have photos of the Dalian lady I will post later today.
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The lady in Dalian goes by the name Vivian. We first met on CLM so if you want to contact her then search for a vivian in dalian.
She is 46 years old. She is divorced. She has a 22 year old daughter away at the university. Her english is not good but we had no trouble using my laptop when we would meet. She also sometimes used her daughter on the phone. She is charming with a welcoming smile. Her are some photos of her.
Honestly she has been my first choice since i first met her on CLM. If not for the promise to come to Guangzhou to meet this woman here I would still be in Dalian.
Pineau
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You two look like a wonderful Couple there and she does come across as a very Honest and the Smile on the Photo shows a Happy Lady inside . Hope this will only go to upwards for you now .
May the Smile on your Face match her's .
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Back home now in the USA. I slept about 48 hour trip counting layovers and lost bags. I took another sleeping pill ans d soon be sound asleep dreaming about my trip. I went all out on the trip and ran my plan right up to Guangzhou where the lady made me stop. I am glad she did. It took about 15000 miles and $12000 , headaches. dysentery and a major ear infection. My calves are hard as a rock and my ankles are twice their size as before. But I was on a mission. I did not want to do this more than once. I was convinced and determined to meet the ladies in person and get through the fake players and come up with the best choices for me. I had planned to meet 14 women between Beijing and Gillion and points getween. I only got to 8 of the 14 then the lady in Guangzhou stooped me in my tracks. Mission accomplished. With her, we were communication on all levels. while we are apart we can fill in the blanks and I can settle up things with King and sell the house. I am planning my next trip over to see her. By then we should have all of the issues solved. I am almost certain we are going to get married during the New Years holiday.
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I think you have properly explored your various oiptions and so happy that you got a wonderful result............well done !!
One thing you mentioned that leads me to comment....your rock hard calves and swollen ankles.
For those of us "mature" travellers, whose circulation is probably less than 100 % nowadays, it is always a good idea to invest in a good pair of pressure socks for long distance flights.
They are not expensive and prevent this pooling of blood in the legs and feet which is a major risk factor for Deep Vein Thrombosis.
The incidence of this problem is quite high for people who fly for more than 8 hours non-stop and is caused by the pressure altitude in the aircraft cabin being at about 8 to 9000 feet.
DVT can be fatal if any blood clot formed breaks loose and travels internally.
Cheap insurance against a major risk
David
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One thing you mentioned that leads me to comment....your rock hard calves and swollen ankles.
For those of us "mature" travellers, whose circulation is probably less than 100 % nowadays, it is always a good idea to invest in a good pair of pressure socks for long distance flights.
They are not expensive and prevent this pooling of blood in the legs and feet which is a major risk factor for Deep Vein Thrombosis.
The incidence of this problem is quite high for people who fly for more than 8 hours non-stop and is caused by the pressure altitude in the aircraft cabin being at about 8 to 9000 feet.
DVT can be fatal if any blood clot formed breaks loose and travels internally.
Cheap insurance against a major risk
David
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You are not the first person I have heard mention this. When I was in China the first time, Peter was there, and he also mentioned the same thing to me. I am glad you brought this up, because it is excellent advice!!!
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I have been home a week now and still a little jet lagged. I was gone a total of 40 days. I think the swollen ankles are from all the walking I did. Seems like I walked a hundred miles or more. I am in better shape than when I left and I lost another 10 pounds while I was there. The ear infection I got was pretty severe. The doc said that if I hadn't come in when I did I would have ended up in the hospital. But the cure was simple enough a couple rounds of intravenous antibiotics and some pills and I was OK in a couple of days. All for under a hundred bucks. I can't stop thinking about the woman I left in Guangzhou. We talk twice a day and are still excited to chat for an hour or more. I am going to get my things in order and head back to Guangzhou as soon as I can. And to think I almost canceled my trip to see her because of my first impression.
Here is my girl.
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Nice pictures and a beautiful woman Gerry. She looks very happy. I am sure both of you are. I expect to hear many more good reports.
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Thanks Shan. She does look happy doesn’t she. She smiles almost constantly and she laughs at even my worst jokes. The smile and the laugh are infectious. I am constantly smiling when I am around her.
I am ready for round two. I already have my tickets for my next trip. I am leaving December 3rd and I am staying as long as it takes to get married and finish the VISA application. If I am not needed back in the USA I may stay indefinatly.
My house is not sold and I don’t expect it to sell until next spring so maybe I hibernate in Guangzhou. The only thing I will require is my blood pressure meds and I am set for the winter.
About the swollen ankles....
I think you have properly explored your various oiptions and so happy that you got a wonderful result............well done !!
One thing you mentioned that leads me to comment....your rock hard calves and swollen ankles.
For those of us "mature" travellers, whose circulation is probably less than 100 % nowadays, it is always a good idea to invest in a good pair of pressure socks for long distance flights.
They are not expensive and prevent this pooling of blood in the legs and feet which is a major risk factor for Deep Vein Thrombosis.
This brings to mind the events that lead up to my troubles in the first place. I am hypothesizing here, but remember I returned from a business trip and suddenly fell ill with depression and anxiety. I remember vaguely I flew home from Singapore, a very long flight and slept all the way. Three days later I found myself crawling on the bathroom floor trying to get back on my feet. That is when all my mental problems began. Could it be possibly, I developed a blood clot in my legs and three days later it caused a stroke and some brain damage? Maybe that is why it did not respond to medication. It has been 8 years and I still have not regained my short term memory and my mental capacity for solving problems is nowhere near what it was before that fateful trip. Something to think about. Would you agree?
So David E. Where can I buy those pressure socks?
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by the way....someone deleted one of my post on this thread between October 19 and October 24th. May I ask why?
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Pineau
DVT has been the culprit in many, many strokes, sometimes months and years after the formation of them.
Often they sit unnoticed except for some pain in the first instance that feels just like a muscle strain...then it goes away.
If and when the clot breaks up, usually it is nabbed by the kidneys and dealt with. Sometimes micro pieces can travel around and do further damage....obviously if any get into the brain.....high risk.
I could not say if a DVT caused your original problems, but there is a test that the Doc can do to find out if a certain enzyme is in your blood which is a marker for DVT.
Pressure socks in Aus can be bought in any good Pharmacy...they measure a few points on your legs, feet, calves and ankles and order in the correct size.....dont know about USA.
The only medication I am aware of to deal with DVT is a long term course of Wafarin (yes,,,rat poison) which is an anti-coagulant agent and prevents the full clot from moving and killing you, rather it slowly dissolves and no damage is done.
If your original medical condition did not prompt them to give you Warfarin, then if it was a DVT, it basically went untreated...and that aint good !!!
Hope this helps...David
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On the road again.
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It was cold and windy yesterday and it is predicted to be 12 degrees. In Guangzhou it was 61 degrees this morning and the high will be 80. Guess where I am going to be at Christmas?
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I am headed out of Denver to Guangzhou on Friday morning. My plan is to get married and file for Spouse VISA during this trip. I plan to stay indefinately.
I have my divorce decree. My “non Criminal” affidavit from Colorado bureau of investigation. Last three years of tax returns. My birth certificate.
Any suggestions for other things I will need while I am there?
So move my Google peg pin on the map from Longmont to Guangzhou.
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Just a thought...
Have you got documentation to prove your relationship over the past period ??....QQ records, air tickets, reciepts etc etc ??
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My congratulations and blessings to the both of you Pineau. Kind of got scared reading "My plan is to get married and file for Spouse VISA during this trip. I plan to stay indefinitely."
Sounded like you where staying in China while moving her to the States :o but then I read it again ;D
Wish you both a long happy life together. James
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Hey thanks David.
I went looking at the QQ records and found our very first conversation after we first met on CLM. 7-23-2010. That was great browsing through the progression of our relationship. There are 79 pages on this computer and as many more on my two laptops. That was fun. I am smiling.
That makes me think. It may be a good Idea for everyone to make a post on this public forum occasionally to updated his status. That would provide a record to refer back to when dates, places and events slip you mind. You never know when you may need it.
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Pineau,
it would be a big help if the documents were already translated to chinese. Other than that. Best of luck. Will be thru Denver this February, doubt if you will be back by then, buzz
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Back in Guangzhou now. Somewhat jetlagged but having a good reunion. My arrival card said that if I am not staying at a hotel then I should register with the local police within 24 hours. I tried that and they dont know what the hell i am talking about. They sent me to another department which referred me to a different office. Seems like no one knows what to do but they all want to charge me sort of fee for helping me out. Anyone with some experience can send me to the right authorities? I never had to hunt for the police in Shenzhen. The police found me.
Know of and American resturants besides KFC and Mcdonalds?
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I never registered at the police on all my trips. Only this last trip did I stay the whole time in a hotel. My wife moved to a new place with her son and the accommodations were quit small. So she and I stayed for 254 rmb a night in Shenzhen. My take is if the Police don't know what you are talking about, it probably doesn't matter.
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I have never registered with the police. Even in a small place, 3.2 million, like Shaoguan no one bothered me except the bad pick pocket who didn't get anything.
I don't think I would worry about it but you didn't hear that from me. ::)
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If your planing on staying in China for any length of time. Such as getting married and changing your visa to a long stay L type valid for 6 months to two years. The PSB will have everything about you on computer records, They will know when you arrived in the country and if there are any gaps as to where you have been staying up until now they will want to know why. This happened to me when I went up to Inner Mongolia with my wife. We stayed free of charge in a hotel there as "guests" and where told not to register, on my return I had to renew my residence permit and the PSB wanted to know where I stayed for those few weeks. A couple of swift phone calls and we had it sorted out, but they do like everything to be in order.Of course if your just visiting then you don't have to be so concerned. Long term it's a different matter completely.
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Its strange, when we were in Changsha the hotel didn't bother with the foreigner form and in Wuhan they insisted on it. In Gong'an we had to fill out a foreigner form in the hotel as well as the local police station! One extreme to another. Like everything else, in China just go with the flow, the rules seems to change place to place.
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I am going to the police station again today. Taking the foreigner form and passport and photo. If they don't sort it out this time I will at least have proof I tried. The lady at the police station is being very difficult and bitc..y. Typical situation where a very small person is in a position of power. I can either put up with her or make her some trouble but I'm sure she could return the favor. The police in Shenzhen ar so much more friendly and helpful. I already have an L visa good until next September. we will probably get married after Christmas and file for her Visa immediately after that. I plan to stay for as long as that takes unless some pressing business erupts back home.
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I have a sort of magnet that attracts the police to wherever I am living. I have been called on at both apartments that I lived in.
You have to find the nearest police station to you. In Zhongshan I visited about 5 and I was never in their areas. I tried the PSB and they were no help. I eventually found a police station out on it own about a mile from the nearest other building. Probably to put there to ensure only the fittest can get to it as it would be a hike on foot. And they have no completed the road that runs in front of it yet.
But I now go there the day after I renew my visa at the PSB and get a new temporary residence permit made out. Only one lady can deal with it there and I often has to call her cellphone to find when she is available.
Willy
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yesterday there was a new lady. she was much more helpful than the previous one. she checked and accepted the form and said they would issue me a paper if everything checked out. She also mentioned that i would have to leave in 90 days and reapply when i returned. she seemed to know what she was doing.
now a new question. The single certificate. where to start. the American embassy or the Chinese?
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Like Mike said , I also went to the US Embassy in Shanghai (without an appointment ) walked in showed Passport .. go to a window .. they give you a paper to fill out and wait for your number to be called . Show Passport - Form they gave you - and in my case Death Cert. of my late Wife and of course $ 30 . Wait about five minutes and walla Paper in hand (english ) which was also enough at our Registry to be Married . Much simpler then I thought for sure .
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The single certificate only took 45 minutes without an appointment. You need your divorce decree, passport and your intended spouse's ID card. (and $50)
It didnt take long at all so when I was finished I asked her if she wanted to go get married. Well you can guess how that conversation ended.
So guess what? We just got married and celebrated at the Pizza Hut! wow! I need to tell mom and my sisters. oh gosh, and my kids...
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Congratulations , to both you and your lovely wife , regards Sujuan and Robert .
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Congratulations! Wow that was fast. ;D
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That's quite a story, from so much uncertainty and confusion a couple of months ago, and now you are married. Congratulations!
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Well done ;D Now the fun starts! May you have many many happy years together.
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Pineau, Congratulations to you and your new beautiful bride,
Minying and myself will travel the same road in January, I have all my documents and they are all stamped and notified by the authorities and i am ready to take the plunge again but i am 100% certain about this one, Something about these wonderful Chinese women, They all seem to be such beautiful creatures.
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Gerry , I might be late .. but I'm sure not the last one to Congratulate you and your Bride ( oh.. I have to remember this now ) . You want me to tell your Kid's ??? haha
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Super congratulations Gerry, may the road rise to meet you.
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Wedding supper at Pizza Hut...that has to be a first! Congratulations.
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Thanks guys. Now it is time to meet her family. We haven't done that yet. They don't even know I exists. We are going to have tea with her brother this afternoon. Next week we will have a family dinner. Surprise surprise. Its probably less complicated this way.
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Congratulations Gerry! I hope that you have many happy years together too.
Dave C
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Gerry,
I am happy for the both of you. Congratz!!!!!! :D
Shaun
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Thanks again guys. Things went a little haywire after my last post in this thread.
We did go out for tea with her brother and his wife that afternoon but the whole time I felt strange, nauseous, faint and weak. At times the room got blurry and towards the end of the meeting I excused myself and staggered to the bathroom and locked myself into one of stalls. I alternated between passing and vomiting blood. This went on for a while but when it subsided I went back to the table and said our good byes and went home. After we go home the vomiting resumed. I could not hide it any more. Fiona put on her coat forced me into a taxi and off to the hospital. No more gory details. it was a blood vein in my upper GI that burst and after 5 days of blood clotting meds they managed to stop the bleeding and I left as soon as possible after that. (the made me sign a release so I wouldn't sue them.
Let me tell you something about my wonderful woman. She would not argue about the course of action she forced me to the hospital. She spend the next 5 days sitting in a hard wood chair next to my bed masaging my sore back (the hospital bed consists of a 3/4 inch pad on a sheet of stainless steel).
She arranged for her daughter to stay at the babysitters and the baby sitter would take her to school and back,.
She never left my side she clean my mess and emptied my bedpan. She ordered meds from America instead of using Chinese products. She had blood flown in to give me a transfusion. She took care of everything. The total was $23,000 USD she paid for it all. I said I would pay her back when I could arrange to have the funds transferred. She only said "you is my husband. No need. you do for me when i am sick" She did all this for a man she had been married to for only one day. I feel really humble .. Gerry
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Wow Gerry, Glad to hear your alright now, You are a lucky man to find such a treasure, She is one in a million, Just like mine and every man on this site, Get well and enjoy every moment with your lovely wife, Regards from MinYing and John.
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Dang Gerry, I am glad you are better. I hope everything continues to improve.
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Gerry
Happy to know you are out of danger and on the road to recovery.
The $23,000 is a blast, which makes me assume you did not have Travel and Medical Insurance ??
I dont know about USA, but here I can get a 1 year travel and medical cover for $145...covers me for up to $1 million !!!
For all other travellers...maybe you should consider doing this ??
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After what we just read it is a very good idea David. I am sure we have something similar in the US.
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No I did not purchase travelers insurance.
I did on my previous trip and a couple folks here thought i was duped and the horror story I read on the internet was planted by the insurance industry. My intuition said buy it but blew it off at the last moment. I should have listened to my intuition. for 166 usd I could have saved 23 k. never too old to learn.
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Gerry,
I too- am glad to hear that you are ok. I am also very impressed how your wife took care of you.
Man, this is something.
Also you saved me some grief as well. I am headed to the airline website right now and getting insurance.
Take care of yourself - But I do not really have to say this; do I- You are already in great hands !
Alton
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A good lesson for all of us. Glad you are now healthy. I'm not surprised your wife took care of you like that, family seems to come 1st, its in their nature.
Alan
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I need to have all the i 130 support documents translated to English and notarized. Anyone know someplace in Guangzhou that can provide that service? Do you trust any of the paralegal types hanging around the lobby of the embassy building soliciting to help with visa applications?
Gerry
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Gerry
first you need to meet a lewyer who works in the law office in gz. the lawyer will do all the i 130 support documents translated to English and notarized for you. if you need a lawyer tell me. please i will give you a lawyer's name and her call phone number in gz? she helped one of my girl friends to apply a USA visa. you would ask you wife call her and ask her all the informations for translating and notarized.
have a good luck.
sara
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The notorizations have to be done by an officially sanctioned place. For example, my wife and I were married in Wuhan however she lives in Guangzhou (for another four weeks!!), she had to get the notorization done in Wuhan , nowhere in Guangzhou would do it because she wasn't married in Guangzhou. Luckily she had a friend in Wuhan that got them notorized for her who then posted the documentation back to her.
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I am about ready to file Fiona's i130. Any recomendations o
n if I should file it here in Guangzhou or take it back to the states to file it?. I am looking for the fastest -efficient route. BTW I am bacck in the hospital. They claimed they found annd closed the leaky vein and just needs a couple weeks to heal.
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Mate here is to a speedy recovery. I wish you all the best and that you will be back on your feet very soon and that the visa process whichever way you proceed is fast and trouble free.
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Gerry, Back in hospital again, Lets hope you make a full and speedy recovery this time.
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Just got back home from 6 days in hell .(Guangzhou's best hospital) I should start another thread for healthcare and hospital care in China.
One of Fiona's girlfriends told her that if I file the i-130 application here in Guangzhou they will just ship it off to the USA processing center. If thats true the is little advantage to filing here other than the time lost going back to the states.
Anyone experienced int this?
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Pineau your lady's friend is right.You don't save any money or time.Because GZ will send it to the states.You can save yourself some grief.And a little expense.If you have your lady fill out her paperwork while you are still in GZ.Then you can help her with her paperwork.
If you need some help with the paperwork.Thiere are a few members here who can help you.Shaun ,Scott,Robert,Okie Rob or myself.It has ben awhile since I have filled out the paperwork.The other guys I have mentioned.Have all done it in the last couple of years.So the information they have is allot more relevant
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Gerry, sorry for the later congrats....all the best to you two mate ;D ;D
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Yes Gerry, glad you are out of the hospital and doing well.
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Thanks Robert. That info puts an end to the question of if i should file here or not. I have not lived here for six months so I must file back in the USA. So I am headed back in Feb. She has a scanner and printer and I think she know how to use them. She has service agreement with the store she purchased her computer and they are always available to answer her questions.
thanks again. Gerry
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Hey Pineau,
Glad that you're out of the hospital. Hopefully you will be able to get Fiona's application processed quickly. I don't know how hard it must be that you want her to go to the States with you.
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Gerry by all means get that house behind you. If it doesn't sell then rent a place until it does sell. I know it can be difficult financially but it is best for the future of you two.
I know there will be times that Peggy and my ex will see each other because of my children. I've let Peggy know that she does not have to tolerate any attitude from my ex wife. All she has to do is tell me and I will take care of the rest.
Your talk along with Jimmy post about the I-130 scared me last night. I had to go back and research it. I had to fill the form out but it wasn't exactly for the same reason. No family involved.
Good luck with everything Gerry.
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Any thoughst about doing all the paperwork here in Guangzhou and then express mail it to the processing center in the united states? That would save me a trip back home when i would rather be here.
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thanks Robert. I have all my documents and my check book so I guess I am good to go. I can delay my trip back home for a while longer.
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Last of the documents. I have them all clipped together with the all important processing fee on top. They go to the post office tomorrow and off the the Chicago lock box. I got the last two documents certified by non other than Tim! . If you haven't followed my story then you dont know the Tim was third person in my marriage and largely responsible for the break up. Just so happens he is fluent in Chinese and was happy to translate and certify the translation for me.
I think I will take some advice from here and stuff the envelope full of photos of us in Guangzhou and a few excerpts from our online chats.
I have purchased my tickets. Leaving March 3. Just enough time to rake and clean the yard and move some furniture into the garage. I hope this is my last trip . I gave my son power of attorney to handle the sale of the house. I want to stay in China until her visa is issued.
Fiona has a daughter that is coming with her. Do we need the permission from the creepy father that left the scene 10 years ago? Fiona says he is always asking her for money. I hope he is not a problem.
My latest tribute to my dear wife...http://www.niwot.net/Fiona/whoisfiona_0001.wmv (http://www.niwot.net/Fiona/whoisfiona_0001.wmv)
Gerry
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Gerry , if you need approval from Fiona's Ex .. depends on their Agreement on the final divorce paper . If she has FULL costody of her Daughter , she decides and he is out of the picture ( as in my Case with Qing's Son ) . What is shocking to me , as I now found out .. is Qing's Ex is actually going to send us Money to do the Paperwork for his Visa . This is a good sign that he still cares for his Son and is happy that he will go to School in America , that is such a big thing with the Chinese .. as they think America's Schools are the best . Well , I'm not going to change his Mind on that .. I'm no fool . haha
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That sucks. Well ok, he is dying of lung cancer. Maybe we wait a while and he drops dead.
When I brought Jings kid over it was pretty simple. I sent him paperwork to sign giving us permission. The letter came back with "Addressee has moved, undeliverable". That was enough to satisfy everyone.
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The check is in the mail.
I finally got everything together and got the I-130 in the mail to Chicago.
So the clock starts ticking now. Feb 22, 2011. any guesses on when she gets her VISA?
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It has been a hectic month. Paying my taxes, car maintenance, and dozens of little things getting the house in shape for selling and trying to visit with my friends all at the same time. Still a lot of little things left but nothing major that Jing and the Realtor cant handle. So its time to say goodbye for a while. Tomorrow night I am off to Guangzhou again. Barring any catastrophes I will probably spend another 6-9 months wandering in China with Fiona. I hope my laptop holds up !
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happy for you and Fiona Gerry, have a safe trip and i hope you have TRAVEL INSURANCE this time?????, wish it was me on my way back to MinYing but i have to wait until late May, all the best for you both,,Regards from MinYing and John.
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I just purchased 50000 in travelers medical insurance. Thanks for the reminder John.
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your very welcome gerry,,,lets hope you not need it this time,,enjoy every minute and keep us all updated, have a blast, im happy for you both.
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Gerry, Good to hear your update. You lucky dog, wish I could spend 6-9 months with Peggy in China but my goal is to get her to the US before the end of my summer leave so I may be knocking around the Guangdong province for about a month this summer. Guess I am a glutton for the heat. Anyway have a great time.
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Hey Shaun. When you arrive send me a PM and we can exchange numbers and perhaps meet up. We are less than an hour from Shenzhen and I would be happy to meet you. I hope to stay put in China until Fiona's VISA is issued and we can go to Colorado together.
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You're a lucky man Gerry. I wish I could stay in China that long too. If I did that though, I wouldn't want to leave. When I have a bad day at work, China sure starts to look tempting.
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I arrived last night about midnight (China time). I have no idea where my bags are and neither does the airlines. I sure hope they can find them. All the food and presents were in those bags along with my blood pressure medication. And a very nice Sony video camera.
You know it going to be a bad day when you hear "Attemtion Los Angeles passengers we have discover the forward lavatory of this aircraft is not functional and this flight is canceled. Please come to the podium for assistance with booking an alternate flight...."
Feb 22, 2011. Sent petition to USCIS ..any guesses on when she gets her VISA?
Feb 28, 2011. They cashed the check
March 2 2011. Received receit confirmation letter from USCIS.
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Gerry , sorry to hear about your bags , I hope they are found , regards Sujuan and Robert .
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Gerry Hopefully they will find your luggage before the Visa Interview. But this I do know, neither one comes soon enough.
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I got my bags in 2 days. An open bag of coco made everything inside require cleaning. All else intact.
The number on the receipt says she is being processed at the California processing center. I checked online and the number is not in the system but after a phone call they verified they have her in the system and said that I should have a decision in June.
They also said the reason her status was not available online is because of Obama cutbacks in manpower and things may slow down a bit.
I just checked again and her status is available online now.
Processing time:
I-130 Petition for Alien Relative U.S. citizen filing for a spouse, parent, or child under 21- 5 Months
Feb 22, 2011. Sent petition to USCIS
Feb 28, 2011. They cashed the check
March 2 2011. Received receit confirmation letter from USCIS.
April 3, 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
May 10 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
June 13 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
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I talked to my son and he said the post office left him a note that I had two registered mails waiting for me so I went to the post office first thing this morning. Just a bit late. The carrier had listed my house as abandoned and ALL of my mail has been returned to sended. Turns out the ex has lost her key to the mailbox and quit checking the mail 3 months ago. Thats 3 months of mail returned to sender......I swear she is a helpless retard. I hope the registered letters were not from homeland security. Does anyone know a way to check?
My case status still says initial review.
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I have been back in America for a couple of weeks. I think the house is finally sold. All that is left it the appraisal. I moved all my stuff into storage and it will because I am headed back to Guangzhou at the end of June. The new house will be waiting for me when I bring Fiona home from China.
I jumped the gun and bought a house for us. I was not really looking seriously but just driving around the neighborhood getting an idea of prices. Good Lord ! I found a house that was ready to go into forclosure. It is newer than my house, it's a bigger house, bigger yard only 6 years old un finished basement and on the out skirts of town (outside boulder county means less taxes) And here is the deal clencher. I got it for 40k less than market. Super cool. Fiona is going to think she is a queen. I wonder if I should risk a hernia by carrying her across the threshhold.
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Oooo.... Gerry don't let her read this website after your last statement. She might no like that comment.
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I was thinking the same thing!!
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Come on...you know what I meant !
I am back in Guangzhou now. The trip home was sort of an Emergency. I had a badly infected gallbladder with a stone blocking the bile duct. The bile was backing up and causing liver to falter. So now its out I am on the mend and feeling better. My darned old body is falling apart piece by piece.
But I did manage to sell the house and get all my stuff put into storage this trip.
Feb 22, 2011. Sent petition to USCIS
Feb 28, 2011. They cashed the check
March 2 2011. Received receit confirmation letter from USCIS.
April 3, 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
May 10 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
June 13 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
June 30 I received a 5 page document "request for evidence" . They want everythink they could think of to prove a bonafied marriage. I guess my luck has run out. This is going to take a while.
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Gerry I am glad you are healthy again. Hope you are able to work through all of the paperwork quickly.
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Likewise Gerry , hope you mend soon and go get some " Duct Tape " for the rest of your Body .
It's funny you mention " Request for Evidence " , as I went to my Immigration Lawyer today .. as he is asking for Money again . Man , bringing Qing's Son (10) over will cost almost $3,000 bucks ? The price just keeps going up and my Bank Account down . Good thing his Dad is footing most of it .. " NICE " Guy .
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Good Grief. I dont believe this. I am responding to the request for evidence and I ran aground when I read the following.
Submit copies of civilly register birth certificates of ALL the petitioners biological children ...bla bla bla.
Provide names and addresses of all relatives living in the united states. Also include how each is related to the petitioner.
And they want either an adfidavit expressing knowledge of my marriage from my Dad or his death certificate. One or the other. He is dead but if he were alive what possible difference would it make if he knew about my marriage or not?
It clearly states petitioner ! Christ ! I am the petitioner. It will take me at least a month to dig up my GROWN KIDS birth records. And what does my grown kids have to do with this anyway?
I am an american. Born and raised. I have HUNDREDS and Hundreds of relatives in the united states. This is crazy. Whoever wrote these requirements took their eye off the ball.
Of course the office is closed and there is no one to clarify what they really meant. I have a good mind to ignore these two requirements but they said failure to comply will result in denial.
You should read this document. This is going to delay me at least a month. I am beside myself.
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box 13 says I am a US born citizen.
box 14 is blank
box 14 b is blank.
I will call tomorrow. There is enough other stuff to keep me busy until i can get an answer.
thanks Robert.
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Well that was a total waste of time. No information that would answer my questions. Just reading a canned response to a generalized questions about the I-130. It was laughable except my blood is boiling.
It went something like this.
"Thank you sir have I addressed your issue and may I assist you in answering any other matters? "
No thank you , You have been absolutely no help to me whatsoever.
.....Its time to get and attorney.
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I know what you are saying but to follow the exact wording that they use in the I-130,..I am the petitioner and she is the beneficiary. I think I know what they want but I would hate to be wrong and denied on a technicality.
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So after a week of scramble I think I have it. I tracked down every document and receipt they asked for andthen some. I scanned it all in and made paper and electronic copies. The only thing missing is my kids birth certificate and my dads death certificate and a letter from my mom. All those should arrive at my son's house by the time I ship these two pounds of paper to him.
If you want to read the requirements from hell and my response both are attached.
I have been thinking. Is this normal? why such a long list of requirements? have they made up their minds already? Does everyone get such a thorough shakedown like me? Maybe the guy that opened my envelope was having a bad day or ws in a rush for lunch so send me his canned request for evidence. Maybe I think too much. ???
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Sorry, my file is 5 mb but we have a 512 kb limit.
Any way we could increase the limit? I think seeing the real documents from the USCIS may be helpful to some folks.
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Request for evidence,.. whew!
This is what full compliance looks like. I have provided each and every document, receipt, bank,creditcard record, birth and death certificate they asked for.
This is 5 days worth of work (from China) 3.3 Gigabytes of electronic documents, 3.7 gigabytes of photos. 3 sets of ink cartridges from my HP printer/scanner.
When stacked and squished together the pile of paper is an inch and three quarter. I hope they are satisfied.
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Yes my name is the same as my fathers but not identical. mine has Jr. at the end.
I checked the name on the application and the Jr is there. Also the document they sent to me is addressed to Jr. so I dont think there is any mistake there. they know me and my father are two different people.
Something in my application had raised a red flag for them and they have raised the bar as high as possible to see if I can meet ALL the requirements and produce ALL the documents. Based on what they are asking for i think they have the idea or suspision that I have been paid to marry my wife. They want proof of my travel, hotel, visits, communications, gifts, wedding ring, wedding anouncements, celebrations, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, WHO, HOW LONG. etc and all must be accompanied by a receipt and a credit card statement proving that I was the one that paid the bill.
They also requested my bank records for two month prior to meeting my wife. I guess they are looking for large, unexplained deposits .
I wish I could upload files here larger than 512k so I could post the request for evidence and my response.
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Find a website that you can post the files to, and post a link here. I can't think of a website off the top of my head, but there are some out there.
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Scott's number 1 can be quite possible. I know when Peggy has her interview they spent a lot of time talking about whether my ex and I still lived together. There were 4 or 5 questions if memory serves me.
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Gerry I'm going to go with Scott on this.I think # 2 is the reason.They were after all the information.I know a American who lives in Houston.He brought 2 French girls to America in the late 80s and early 90s.Now he wants to bring his Chinese wife to America.His immigration attorney told him.That he was going to have to come up with the same proof you had to come up with.Plus Waite at;east a year after they where married to file for a visa.His lawyer was upfront with him.And told the man.That Evan with all the proof of the relationship.There was still a good chance of a denial.At the interview.
So good luck with this.And I hope you hired a good immigration attorney.
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sameldrum1, shaun, maxx. Thanks.
I think I will go with number 2 also. The RFE did not ask any questions at all about my ex. Most of it was directed toward proving my identity and family ties in America and prove that it was I that paid for all tickets and lodging on my trips to China. and, and and, and lots of other stuff to prove when the relationship started and there were ongong trips and communications from the begining and now.
Just for the record the ex and I each own half of the old homestead and we are in the process of selling it. She still lives there but I have moved out and live in China since my marriage to Fiona. After what happened to Shaun I did not want to have any doubt that she and I are divorced and living seperatly. When I go back on business I stay with my son and I am at the old house only when the ex is somewhere else.
As far as posting the RFE, I would only do so after sanitizing it of personal information. It's nearly void of that already. And I decide that posting my response would be telling the world who I was, where I live and whre I do my banking. So I changed my mind on posting my response. But I thought an acutal RFE would show newbies and example of what they look like and the information they could request. I will go with the opinions posted here.
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Yes, it seems I am not alone and no I dont feel better. I am really livid about this. My origional application and packet would have convinced 9 out of 10 people that ours was a bonafide marriage. I wish I knew what triggers this sort of RFE so we all can avoid it in the future. It is hard to believe that got picked from a random lottery. I was shocked and totally taken by surprise by this. Back 12 years ago when I applied for my ex's VISA I sent the application in mid Jan and she was standing in my living room on April. Less than 4 months in the USCIS paper mill. That was unusual back then, so I guess now I am paying for it.
There is this ominous threat on the first page "failure to submit ALL evidence at one time may result in denial of your application. Thats rather scary because at times the request is not specific as to what exactly they want. They say things like " provide and explaination why...." well gosh I hope my explaination is complete and satified the requirement but how do I know for sure. And provide a list of name address and phone numbers of the petitioners relatives living in america including inlaws. Thats a tall order and I hope it just means immediate family and their spouses because I hava a list of cousins, kids, and grand kids as long as your arm.
The 3 pound package is in the mail. I guess I will wait and see. I was able to put it all together without help this time but if I am denied I will be at the end of the proverbial rope. I will find a pitbull and dress him up like an immigration attorney. Then point him toward the USCIS.
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I took a look at the RFE the other guy was complaining about and it is nearly identical to the one I got. So it is a canned letter that they send out to "select" applicants. Wow how did I get so lucky?
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/23/55210375x.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/23/55210375x.jpg/)
Feb 22, 2011. Sent petition to USCIS
Feb 28, 2011. They cashed the check
March 2 2011. Received receit confirmation letter from USCIS.
April 3, 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
May 10 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
June 13 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
June 30 I received a 5 page document "request for evidence" . They want everythink they could think of to prove a bonafied marriage.
July 26 2011 Mailed respons to RFE to USCIS
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Gerry whatever the reason it is a pain. I have a hard time understanding how our government can be so rigid and ask us to jump through so many hoops.
May 4, 2011, the same day Peggy and I were rejected our wonderful and glorious savior president made a speech on immigration in El Paso, Texas. In that speech he said that EVERYONE knows that our immigration process is broke and that it needs major reform and that HE planned to begin, I am guessing a committee, to discuss how to reform it. Here it is July and you can see the results in your application. 3lb of paper and a lot of sweat and energy.
You can have a ton of the most overwhelming evidence proving that a person has a bona fide relationship and these interviewers will focus in on a gnat's ass, a mistake in speech and reject you. THIS is typical governmental BS. If we had this kind of investigation and questioning for both elected federal officials and federal employees there wouldn't be anyone in Washington D.C. working for the government.
I say all of that to say this. Gerry, make absolutely sure that your wife is rock solid with answers when she gets to the interview.
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Fiona's sister got her visa approved and is now in the USA with her fiance'. She flew out two days ago.
Total 8 months from application to approval.
Here's the farewell dinner with anut and uncle. She is the one in the red dress. The boy is her son who decided to stay in China at the last minute.
http://imageshack.us/g/228/dsc0009cwu.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/g/228/dsc0009cwu.jpg/)
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I wonder what the rejection rate via other US Embassies in China?
Still as a non USA Citizen it is not for be to criticise. But it must be like getting a real kick in the guts to get a rejection.
I am just glad that I do not have to go through all that polava and in a position not to have to do so.
Having bought a home here we can travel to the UK and stay for 6 months with a normal visitors visa, not that I would ever want to stay in the UK that long.
Willy
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Unless your coming to see me.... ;D ;D ;D
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My wife lives in Shenzhen and is currently waiting for that dreaded phone call from the consulate in Guangzhou for an interview,this is our second attempt at a visa for her so we're both pretty nervous. She tells me she is treated like a criminal at the Australian consulate and does not like them at all , i have had to reassure her that it is not like that in Australia. She says the consulate in Shanghai is much friendlier and easier to get along with so i was wondering if anyone El's has heard of this. It is my opinion that all consulates should have the same guidelines to work by. And by the way do we get a choice as to witch consulate we use?
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Clayton
It is interesting to read your comments about the Australian Consulates in Guangzhou/Shanghai.
I have needed to visit both of them for various bits of paper/Information during the 309 visa process for my wife.
My comments would be......
Guangzhou...a really nice bunch of friendly, courteous and helpful people...it was a pleasure to go in there...totally impressed.
Shanghai...a bunch of disinterested, arrogant, un-helpful pigs and I had some serious arguements with the incompetants who run the place....in fact I wrote to the Aus Immigration Minister and the Consul General to complain about them !!!
Strange contrast with your Lady's experience !!!
...and no, you dont get a choice which Consulate to use, each Consulate deals with a specific City in Aus.
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Thanks David E
That's really intersting,I guess different people have a different chemistry with different people if you get what i mean.
My wife Yan is a real people person ,she makes friends with everyone she comes in contact with so i don't understand just what is going on there.
Fingers crossed that her case officer is having a good day for the day of the interview.
Cheers
PS I hope things are goin good for you and your lovely, how does she like Perth?
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PS I hope things are goin good for you and your lovely, how does she like Perth?
She hates it Clayton, she wants to come to Scotland with me...hehehe ;D ;D Sorry David, I thought you knew :o ??? ;D ;D
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Man, thems is fightin words lol
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Really interesting to read your wifes experience with the Gaungzhou Consulate, we only had dealings with them and whilst we probably only went there no more than 3 times each time they were helpful and professional. But then again we may have lucked in or you may have got someone on a bad day.
Good luck with the phone interview, make sure she has a copy of all expected and obvious questions and answers ready to go so she does not become overwellmed by the whole process and can answer questions quickly and confidently. Might be a case of emailing a word document with all answers on it to her, she can then cut and paste in Chinese words/characters to make reading easier and then if she does not have a printer there are a million and one ways to print out the document in China. Then all will be ready to go when ever they call her. Just a suggestion.
It makes me sad when I read about guy and girls who put their heart and soul nnto all of this adventure and then get a denial over a trival thing or forgetting a piece of infomation that any other day they could tell you off the top of their head but giving the pressure of the situation the answer is not forthcoming and they get denied on th visa.
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It makes me sad when I read about guy and girls who put their heart and soul nnto all of this adventure and then get a denial over a trival thing or forgetting a piece of infomation that any other day they could tell you off the top of their head but giving the pressure of the situation the answer is not forthcoming and they get denied on th visa.
Amen to that Jason. I think they do it because it helps their reputation.
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Clayton
Ming is captivated by Perth...loves it already. Her biggest comments...the air quality, the rain which is clean , not muddy, the food...Man !! can she eat food, just loves anything Western I put in front of her. She has only had one "Chinese" meal since she arrived...and I cooked that !!!!!
The wide open spaces, single storey buildings are very strange to her...and the fact that most folk have a lawn and garden is always a source of great interest.
On the other subject of Consular performance and Consular Interviews. I have read (with Ming's Translation help) many, many cases of other people going through the Spouse/Fiance saga. The website she uses is very popular in China for girls to share their experiences. I am truly amazed at how little preparation that most of these people go through, and also how many just stick out as obvious frauds.
I do have a little (only a little) sympathy for Consulate Case Officers who must wade through this crap day after day. It is not surprising that the few "genuine" applicants get chucked in with the other lot !!!!
As my Lawyer told me....this first verbal Interview carries a huge weight in the whole process, because Case Officers are primed to believe all applicants are cheats. If your Partner stumbles or hesitates over this initial questioning, then the odds get stacked against you.
That is why I have posted many, many times about the vital importance of getting it right first time.......yes, it is tedious and time consuming to do all this preparation, but for prospective Partners it is a MUST to get the documentation spot-on and to make sure that all the interview questions can be answered calmy, accurately and without hesitation.
Cheers...David
ps....Robbie....You Haggis Bashers couldn't handle a Tiger Lady like Ming...she would likely eat you for breakfast and spit out the Sporran ;D ;D ;D
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David, Do you have a link to that webpage you spoke about and to the example questions?
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ps....Robbie....You Haggis Bashers couldn't handle a Tiger Lady like Ming...she would likely eat you for breakfast and spit out the Sporran ;D ;D ;D
As Cayton said ......"Thems fighting words" ;D ;D ;D
Seriously though, its good to now that people can take a bit of good humoured banter without getting all hot and bothered under the collar... :)
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Clayton
She has only had one "Chinese" meal since she arrived...and I cooked that !!!!!
Now .. now David , you opened yourself up for that one ! " I cooked that " .. now is this why Ming only had " ONE " chinese Meal ? :o Here I thought you were a ＂Good " Cook :-\
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PS I hope things are goin good for you and your lovely, how does she like Perth?
She hates it Clayton, she wants to come to Scotland with me...hehehe ;D ;D Sorry David, I thought you knew :o ??? ;D ;D
Dont give her a Kilt then Robbie. She'll think its the tent you live in. Whats she going to do in Scotland when you are living it up in England?
Willy
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Pineau
The Website where the Chinese Women compare notes/experiences is:
http://www.caidi.com.au/bbs/ (http://www.caidi.com.au/bbs/)
There is a list of questions in the Forum Thread "Australian Requirements" which covers the most frequently asked, and the most important questions.
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Arnold
Dont stress, I AM a good cook ;D ;D
But my LP demands that we eat Western Food all the time, so she can more quickly get "Westernised" !!!!! I do miss my Chinese food, and I will need to get the whip out to make sure she does some cooking !!!
(Maybe she is being very clever...its a way to get me to do all the cooking)...am I being manipulated here !!!! :-\ :-\ :-\......but I dont care....the fringe benefits are worth it !!!
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the fringe benefits are worth it !!!
And what are those? Washing and drying the dishes?
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the fringe benefits are worth it !!!
And what are those? Washing and drying the dishes?
No Vince....I have a dishwasher for that !!!!!.......I was thinking more in the line of endless, great sex....which makes an old Man very, very happy...... ;D ;D ;D ;D...and thats a fair exchange for a bit of cooking !!!!!!!
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No Vince....I have a dishwasher for that !!!!!.......I was thinking more in the line of endless, great sex....which makes an old Man very, very happy...... ;D ;D ;D ;D...and thats a fair exchange for a bit of cooking !!!!!!!
David , I'm with you on that ! It's true when they say .. Use it - or Loose it ! Man .. I feel 35 again for some reason .
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David , I'm with you on that ! It's true when they say .. Use it - or Loose it ! Man .. I feel 35 again for some reason .
But if you use your virginity, ..... don't you loose it? :o
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I think we should let Gerry have his Threat back . Or maybe this is what he meant by "End of the Road" ? It was for us old timers here . ???
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No problem. Feel free to abuse my thread at any time for a good cause. ha !
This morning I could not access the uscis dot gov service center from Guangzhou. However I was able to reach it by other means. Does that mean it has been blocked ? Someone else please give it a try without V P N and see if they can access the site. https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/Dashboard.do;jsessionid=bcahjvn8_QfEXfgMhyx9s (https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/Dashboard.do;jsessionid=bcahjvn8_QfEXfgMhyx9s)
5 months and counting
Feb 22, 2011. Sent petition to USCIS
Feb 28, 2011. They cashed the check
March 2 2011. Received receit confirmation letter from USCIS.
April 3, 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
May 10 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
June 13 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
June 30 I received a 5 page document "request for evidence" . They want everythink they could think of to prove a bonafied marriage.
July 26 2011 Mailed respons to RFE to USCIS
August 3rd USCIS acknowledged receipt of my response and began reviewing it. They promisea reply within 60 days.
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Got in right away mate... :D
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It worked for me.
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Just sold the house Last week. The money is in the bank. Now that could be good or bad. The USCIS can say I have a lot of money in the bank and can therefore support Fiona and myself or.... I just received a large sum of money from someone as a payoff to marry Fiona and help her get a VISA so therefore we have a fake marriage. Cant win.
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Give me the money, I will hold it for you for about 20 years and then give you the money back minus the interest, as part of the service I will tell immigration your marriage and relationship is real......just a thought....... ;D
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Good try Jason. But that is all I have left in the world. Every dollar I made for the last 4 years went into paying off that house. That felt really good to be debt free. Now the ex gets to walk away with half of it. errrrrggg. I am buying a new house soon and that money will make a good down payment but I am going back into debt again. I will let Fiona finish paying it off with my life insurance.
I have documentation showing the house was my asset but I just wish the USCIS would hurry up because every transaction like this has to be explained and its a pain in the butt.
5 months and counting
Feb 22, 2011. Sent petition to USCIS
Feb 28, 2011. They cashed the check
March 2 2011. Received receit confirmation letter from USCIS.
April 3, 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
May 10 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
June 13 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
June 30 I received a 5 page document "request for evidence" . They want everythink they could think of to prove a bonafied marriage.
July 26 2011 Mailed respons to RFE to USCIS
August 3rd USCIS acknowledged receipt of my response and began reviewing it. They promised a reply within 60 days.
August 26 Your Case Status: Request for Evidence Response Review
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7 months and counting
Feb 22, 2011. Sent petition to USCIS
Feb 28, 2011. They cashed the check
March 2 2011. Received receit confirmation letter from USCIS.
April 3, 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
May 10 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
June 13 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
June 30 I received a 5 page document "request for evidence" . They want everythink they could think of to prove a bonafied marriage.
July 26 2011 Mailed respons to RFE to USCIS
August 3rd USCIS acknowledged receipt of my response and began reviewing it. They promised a reply within 60 days.
August 26 Your Case Status: Request for Evidence Response Review
September 23 2011 Your Case Status: Request for Evidence Response Review
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You know something? You have a knack for pointing out the obvious and the trivial then making a big deal of it. Many of the guys here are under a lot of stress. Dealing with government bureaucracy and separated from their loved ones by thousands of miles. Not to mention most are still recovering from bitter divorces, vengeful ex-wives, separation from their kids and suffering from financial meltdown. We come here for a lot of reasons but most of the active members are here to ask for support and to lend support to others in this very complex shared experience.
So maybe I exaggerated a little when I used the word “promised”. But I am not in the habit of making shit up. I assure you I would not have written it here if the lady on the phone did not say something to that effect. So if you want to nit-pick my every word rather that contribute then do it on your own thread and stay off mine.
Did you wake up in a bad mood? What’s this with Vince? So what…? He said they tripled the price. So you had to demonstrate your math skills and embarrass him by pointing out the price per credit had increased to $5.00 per credit. Then you insult him by telling him to “do the math”. Well I did the math and discovered you are wrong. If the numbers you posted are correct the new price is $4.983333333333333 not $5.00 . How could you make such an error being a math whiz and all.
What possible difference did it make to his message? Vince was off a little. It was obvious to me that he was not trying to be politically, clinically, or scientifically correct. He was just pointing out that the evil empire had increased their prices and that he was pissed off about it. He is under a lot of pressure and needed to vent his frustration. That’s something that I wholeheartedly support.
I don’t need or welcome heckling. I am here because I need real help, support and advice. And while I am here I hope that in a small way I can help someone else travel the path that I have already walked.
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Well like I said many times.
This forums needs livening up.
It sure is getting that way thank goodness.
Willy
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Sorry to disappoint you Willy, but it's over. I'm done.
Agh Damn. Now its back to watching the beauties in short cotton dresses wander my.
Thinks!!! how much longer is the sun going to last this year?
Willy
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CB, you're not next and there is a very good reason why. You didn't directly attack a person but stated your concern about an idea or a concept.
In all of the cases where individuals were banned from this site they were viciously attacking other members. They were repeatedly warned by the mods to stop but they continued so they were banned. When you read through some of the comments that led to people being banned realize that some of the comments have been altered or in some cases removed so you won't get a complete picture. But they were banned for attacking another member even after being warned more than once.
With reference to what Scott said, I think his approach was not the best choice. He started out by saying that he had 2 bones to pick with Vince. I think if he had said there are two issues that cause me some concern... Then I think if he had asked Vince why it has taken so long to go to China, Vince would have answered differently.
Before I went to China the first time many of the guys were all over me about my need to go very soon. We argued about it but I didn't feel threatened. It is all in how it is handled.
Finally both Scott and Vince are great guys who just got a little crosswise with each other. It happens. They'll get over it.
But it has been a little exciting around here and I've been tuning in more.
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That is were this forum would do the most to help people. Not trying to convince people that there are absolutely no problems with chinese
women. Based on the population i would venture to say there are more bad than good out there. Just need to find the good ones as you
try your hand at this. I fell in love with the country when i first started to travel there and it has brought me to maybe finding a wife to
share that with.
You had a well written post, and to suggest that you are next, would suggest that nobody can disagree with things said here. That is far from the truth. Yes, another member was banned over this argument. And it was not Sameldrum, or Vince. The person banned posted an offensive post to Vince. I deleted it, and warned the member. Within a few minutes, he posted the exact same thing again, only this time, insulting me as well. So again, I deleted the post, and warned him again. He then signed out, and came back under another account that he had. I was not aware that he had a second account, which is something that we don't like. He then posted an attack on Vince for the third time. Another Mod caught that post, and deleted it. At that time, I suspended the members posting privileges, The mods reviewed the posts, and the impact that this guy was having. One of the rules of this forum, is to not attack or "flame" other members. The 4 mods had a vote, and 3 of the 4 voted to ban both accounts of this user (1 voted to only ban one account). So this member is gone. It was not about disagreeing.
As far as your concern that you will only hear the good sides of Chinese women...yes, there is more good on here than bad. But there is also bad on here. Not all of us have had success at marriage. It's no different from chnlove...we dont just post good stories about them. We cover the bad as well.
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I will try not to write a chapter from a book here. There is one subject maybe I should make clear? for a few. My problem is unique. Some even think I'm making things up? But unfortunately I am not. The only reason I have wrote any of this is to make men aware of marrying a woman (any culture) that is after your pocket and not your heart. There are many details with this which you'll have to wait for the book to read. I will answer questions about it outright or in PM to help some. But what always gets to me is when said that I am sitting doing nothing? I should go to China. I can not understand where this assertion comes from?
If I could travel to China to meet these women, don't you think I would have? It doesn't take to much brain power to understand. Some think I make excuses? Ah! I'm not making any, I just don't want to get into this whole concept at the time. There are times when I start thinking about it, I get to upset and bad things come from it, like depression for one.
I will say parts of the government, federal, state and local, the family laws, and I'll include immigration need a Colonic. The problem extends from people with small lives are given some power. They over extend that power that they believe they are judge and jury. An example of this is going down to the dept. of Family Services (right over here, I walk there) and waiting to talk with someone about the problem (money paid but not credited) I'm told by this clerk "I'll have you put in jail" calling his bluff and waiting to belittle him I said... "You" You'll put me in jal... your just a little f****ng clerk that types into a computer, go ahead do it. I get to sit and watch tv all day and have meals served." Maybe I created a problem with this?
I'll rap this up with "I will travel to China as soon as I am able". It's not a money issue (none to travel with), i's not a time issue (have to ask time off to go) it is a government issue. ALL STATES have a certain amount that if a parent owes more then (most states) $2500. their Passport is taken, along with their Tax returns, drivers license, auto registration and any money in your bank accounts. THAT'S THE LAW!
Meanwhile... I have my file and have an appointment at 2 pm with one of the new lawyers. Throwing this in as an afterthought... With all of this child support issues, fact is my "children" are adults in their 20's.
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I'll rap this up with "I will travel to China as soon as I am able". It's not a money issue (none to travel with), i's not a time issue (have to ask time off to go) it is a government issue. ALL STATES have a certain amount that if a parent owes more then (most states) $2500. their Passport is taken, along with their Tax returns, drivers license, auto registration and any money in your bank accounts. THAT'S THE LAW!
wow vince we in the uk think our laws are bad... :o :o
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Well just got back from the one lawyer who I ended up hiring and I'll tell you why. This is strange and funny. My old lawyer was Florida & New York bar. I preferred this for the problem originates from NY. OK got to the appt. met with this new lawyer and within the first minutes or so I mention about the NY bar. He says he's from there? Alright this should be fun now, "Where from NY?" North Bellmore.. my jaw drops and give my reply I'm from Merrick. (Next town over, and the same school district). Turns out he went to one of the other high schools, we had 3. This one I help set up the forum for. We graduated the same year, went to the same college (Miami). He stayed down here and I went back to NY. Our paths must have crossed a few times.
Is in a wonder why I'm writing a book?
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A funny thing happened on the way to Hong Kong.
It was time for the quarterly exodus to get your passport stamped and renter China. I have not had to do this so far this year because I have been traveling back and forth to the US and this is the first time I have stayed for more than 90 days. For those using Lou Hu for this purpose it is not the quick turn around that it used to be.
So I went to Lou Hu station, went through immigration and crossed over to Hong Kong. I remembered there was stairs that would lead you back the other way to re enter China. The stairs are still there but there is a "Do not Enter" sign and a security gard posted there. When I asked where is the route back to China immigration, I was told that I can't do that any more.
Now you have to buy a train ticket and leave the station and then return through the arrival hall. How inconvenient. I had to go to the money changers and convert RMB to HKD then to the ticket counter and purchase a train ticket to the nearest town. Take a trip to the next town, purchase another ticket back to Lou hu
So a 10 minute task was turned into an hour and a half frantic where am I and where do I need to go next. Meanwhile Fiona is back in Lou Hu waiting, wondering what has happened to her husband. We finally got home after dark last night. Anyone have an idea how to circumvent this requirement?
Here is a suggestion for the Chinese immigration. If you want to know where someone is located every 90 day then require them to go check in at the local police station. Far less complicated and troublesome, and they would get a much better fix on your location. Maybe they couldn't handle that much traffic at the local police department. But there must be a better way.
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Last couple of times I went through Lok Ma Chau instead. It's less busy through that gate. But as to being able to not need taking a train to the other town I don't know. Also every time (but my 2nd trip) I left by catching my plane in Hong Kong, I went by mini van that also crossed the border at Lok Ma Chau. The mini van ride cost 160 rmb.
To catch the train you do walk across a bridge that spans the river to the Hong Kong side to catch the train and I believe that this bridge is for both directions so it might be possible that once you clear customs on the Hong Kong side, that you can return to the Chinese side. But I can not be totally positive if this is true.
Of course you rather stay in your city and just visit the police station, but when does the government ever worry about the better way?
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If it was me doing it.I would do just like Willy doe's. I would go to Zhuhai.Then walk across the border to Macao.Spend a couple of hours gambling and checking out the sites.Then walk back across the border.If you go to the Gombei mall in Zhuhai.You can cross the border there I think.If not.There is a border crossing 200 yards from the front door of the mall
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If it was me doing it.I would do just like Willy doe's. I would go to Zhuhai.Then walk across the border to Macao.Spend a couple of hours gambling and checking out the sites.Then walk back across the border.If you go to the Gombei mall in Zhuhai.You can cross the border there I think.If not.There is a border crossing 200 yards from the front door of the mall
Although it is a 4 hour bus ride, I think I will try this next time. It would be fun rather than an ordeal. I had intended to spend the day in Hong Kong shopping and dining with Fiona but at the last minute we discovered her Hong Kong visa was no longer valid. We will be ready next time (if there is a next time).
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Do I read you right Pineau. That you have to leave China every 90 days? I am registered with the local police and I can stay here until my visa ends in 12months. Have not left china since the new one was issued in Feb this year and haver no intentions of leaving before it expires.
Can you not get a longer visa and stay until it expires?
Willy
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I didn't know it was possible without immigrating here. I am also registered with the local police. I have a one year, muiti-entry VISA but it states on the VISA that the maximum each stay is 90 days. Hopefully I am not here another 90 days. That will be the case unless Fiona's application is denied. If it is I am seriously looking at putting down some more permanent roots (north of here).
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Living in Hong Kong, I am used to the Lo Wu/Luohu border. This month, I had to meet my wife on the Hong Kong side, then return home. She had the right paperwork. I only have a double-entry six-month Chinese visa, so I have to ration my Chinese visits. Before meeting, I went up the stairs that you're not allowed to go down, met her at the Starbucks, then found out that, yes, she couldn't go down where I had come up. So I went with her on the train as far as the next stop, Sheung Shui, then she got off and took the next train back towards Lo Wu and across the border. She used her Octopus railcard, so it wasn't too inconvenient. Hopefully, Pineau, you and Fiona will be able to spend a little time in Hong Kong next time (if there is one)
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I didn't know it was possible without immigrating here. I am also registered with the local police. I have a one year, muiti-entry VISA but it states on the VISA that the maximum each stay is 90 days. Hopefully I am not here another 90 days. That will be the case unless Fiona's application is denied. If it is I am seriously looking at putting down some more permanent roots (north of here).
I had my visa renewed at the PSB in Zhongshan - 12 months multi entry. There is no requirement for me to leave the country in between. I can stay right up until the renewal date. My temp residents permit also has the same expiry date as the visa.
Willy
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Can you become a permanent resident Willy? Or, if you wanted to, could you become a Chinese citizen?
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Can you become a permanent resident Willy? Or, if you wanted to, could you become a Chinese citizen?
I probably could eventually but there are not many benefits to it. One would need to give up their present passport as China does not allow dual nationality.
It may save you on yearly visas but think of the restrictions. You would be treated just like a Chinese National having to registere here there and everywhjere and have restrictions on travel. I would not be able to go to Hong Kong or Macau without a Chinese exit visa.
And could I just walk into the UK if I traveled there or would I need to get a visa for that.
No not for me. I would rather pay the 900 odd rmb every year.
That is unless things got difficult to stay here with officialdom.
Willy
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I am ready to choke the life out of someone at USCIS. >:( Someone just reset the clock after waiting 60 days What a coincidence, their 60 days (to the day) that they owed me a reply to my response. So I guess another 60 days delay (but who's counting).
They want a copy in English and Chinese of Fiona's divorce from her first husband. I didn't send it this time because I had sent it with the original application. If they would just open their eyes they would find it in the pile of papers I sent. And they could use a little logic. Anyone with can figure out the Chinese government is not going to let her marry me if she cant prove her single status. The marriage brueau here also requires a divorce decree and proof of single status :o
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Darn, I thought I would have finished all this USCIS stuff by now. I decided to buy us a home back in the USA and will be closing the deal at the end of this month. So now it appears I will be making house payments on an vacant house while I am waiting for Fiona's VISA. These heartless asses are costing me a fortune.
Its a wonderful house with a view of the mountains. Instead I have a marvelous view of my neighbors laundry. I started this journey over a year ago. I WANNA TAKE MY WIFE AND GO HOME .
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Good morning. ;D. I'm off to see the wizard today.
Actually I'm going to the US Embassy to see if anyone is interested in looking at this certified, notarized, divorce decree, bearing the official embossed stamp of the Guangzhou Notary Public Office. A duplicate of the one they overlooked from my first mailing. I'm going to behave myself. I am just testing the system to see if there is any way to get this into the workflow again without waiting another 2 months.
I know its a long-shot but I also know that if I just mail this to the USA it be get placed back into pile and will sit there for another 60 days. So it't worth a shot. I wont loose my temper or raise my voice. If no one is interested the I will just go to the post office and mail it.
About 8 months and counting
Feb 22, 2011. Sent petition to USCIS
Feb 28, 2011. They cashed the check
March 2 2011. Received receit confirmation letter from USCIS.
April 3, 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
May 10 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
June 13 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
June 30 I received a 5 page document "request for evidence" . They want everythink they could think of to prove a bonafied marriage.
July 26 2011 Mailed respons to RFE to USCIS
August 3rd USCIS acknowledged receipt of my response and began reviewing it. They promised a reply within 60 days.
August 26 Your Case Status: Request for Evidence Response Review
September 23 2011 Your Case Status: Request for Evidence Response Review
October 8 2011. Received request for evidence for prior marriage divorce document. (already provided in previous mailing)
October 10 2011 Your Case Status:Request for Evidence Response Review
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Oh no? This reminds me of something....
when we got to the Scene of the Crime there was five police officers and three police cars, being the biggest crime of the last fifty years, and everybody wanted to get in the newspaper story about it. And they was using up all kinds of cop equipment that they had hanging around the police officer's station.
They was taking plaster tire tracks, foot prints, dog smelling prints, and they took twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was to be used as evidence against us. Took pictures of the approach, the getaway, the northwest corner the southwest corner and that's not to mention the aerial photography.
Alice's Restaurant Arlo Guthrie
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That was a wasted trip. three hours. The embassy is closed today. but nothing posted on their website. Oh gosh, stupid me. :-[ Its Columbus day. So I made an appointment for Friday.
Happy Columbus day everybody ! Enjoy your day off... ;)
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Well guys, its time for me to leave for a while. This started over a year ago and I had no idea that it will take so long.
I am closing a deal on my new house next month and I need to get things out of storage and moved to the new house. That will keep me busy for a while. Also I am going to take my bed to the dump and have a bed burning ceremony. Moms birthday is coming up on the 16th and I have not spoken to my daughters since last thanksgiving. So I have to do before Fiona arrives.
Those are my excuses but truthfully I am about burned out on rice and noodles and I need to go home for a while for a sanity break.
I know I was getting on some peoples nerves. I'll try to keep quiet for the next couple of months so I dont piss any one else off. (no promises though. sometimes I just cant keep from sharing my 2 cents worth.
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Any soldier on the front lines sometimes barks out in emotion. I don't think you need to apologise as we all at times have used some of our posts to let off some steam. Take some good R & R trooper as you have earned it, but don't forget about us here our little band of brothers. And if you wait too long before contributing, inflation will make that 2 cents cost as much as a package of cigarettes.
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Tell me you guys overseas. Do you intend to completely Westernise your wifes when you get them to your own country?
Willy
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Willy, I am slightly overseas from you. My wife is busy easternising me and I am busy westernising her. We may meet in the middle, or get so muddled, you won't see the join. If we move to England, she will have to do more work. If we move to China, I will have to do more work. If we stay in Hong Kong, who knows? In fact who knows what tomorrow will bring?
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You can take the girl out of China but you can't completely take China out of the girl.
This is a common saying about country people in OZ
Leeroy
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Willy you know you can take the woman out of China.But your never gonna take China out of the woman.In the last 5 years.My wife's English has improved.And she has grown more accustomed to the western world.
But that is it.She still eats Rice 3 times a day.Watches Chinese TV.And when she is on the computer.She is looking at Chinese web sites.She is setting next to me right now.Talking too me in English.And playing with the boys talking English and Chinese.Both boys are wearing clothes bought in China on the last trip.It is 70 f in this house she has both of them dressed in long sleeves.Tristan the oldest one is running around with his jacket on.This is something Chinese woman do when there from central China.And they have young kids.They think the kids are cold.So the boys will wear jackets until at least noon.Where it will warm up to 70 f outside.Then the jackets will come off.
In about a hour we will leave the house drive 3 hours.And go to the Asian market in Albuquerque New Mexico.She will spend a couple of hundred dollars in the market.Then we will go around the corner from the Asian market.And eat Chines food.At a Chinese restraint.The people who own the restaurant.Are from Fushan China.The restaurant we usually eat at on Saturday.The owners are from Guanxia they left China when she was eight years old.She still lives and dresses like she is from China.
My wife may embrace a few of our western ways.But she is still a Chinese woman.And I have made very little effort to change that.The other day my wife was talking to her friend on Skype.Her friend is married to a American who lives in Houston Texas.I walked by the computer.And told my wife that her and her friend needed to speak English.So her friend could practice her English.They just laughed at what I said.And went back to speaking Chinese.
If you try to convert a Chinese woman to be a western woman.I think your doomed to faliure.They are very stronged willed.And are set in ther ways
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In fact who knows what tomorrow will bring?
That Dr Who is one smart Asian. ::)
In 2006, Calgary's largest visible minority groups were Chinese (6.7%), South Asian (5.7%), Filipino (2.5%). So eventhough I live in a so called redneck cowboy town, my wife will have her own culture here. I have a few close friends that migrated from China so I have no illusions that eventhough I wear the pants in the family, Do you intend to completely Westernise your wifes when you get them to your own country?
that she will not allow me to have any other wife. Besides, her uniqueness, we hope, will help her establish a mini school teaching Chinese music & dance.
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As for me , thinking about Qing becoming westernized .. was kind of scary at first . As I of course did not favour such thought , but now see .. all this was for the Birds . She'll always be my tall Chinese Lady that I fell in Love with , she's only learning HOW to live Life OUR way and that is never going to change her Character/Personality . It's like , I've never changed my German way and I'm here over forty years already .
That might though .. be not the case with an Younger Woman , that is learning these way's already in their Country .. before coming to the western hemisphere .
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I don't plan to change anything. If she wants try and be more westernized it will be OK with me. She is already set in her ways. We'll just see where life takes us.
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AaaaH Willy....throwing l live hand-grenades again ????? ;D ;D
I dont know how to reply to your provocative post........
But, You know as well as all of us that it would be morally and ethically wrong to force any changes on our Lovelies in a quest to "Westernise" them.
So I am sure it is a trick question ;D ;D
My answer.....It is my responsibility to expose Ming to all the different aspects of life in Australia..our customs, traditions, food, behaviours and such.
Some of them she will want to adopt, if she finds them more acceptable than her usual way.
Some of them she wont want to adopt because they represent too much of a clash with her own traditions, customs, background etc.
One thing is quite certain.....she will never be an Australian, she will always be a Chinese person, living to the best of her ability , in Australia...and I will support her in this whatever balance she finds. To think that I have the faintest chance of enforcing any level of "Westernisation" upon her is pure fantasy. I have not that right..or need...and I sure would not wish her to become some sort of a clone of some of the Women that claim to be Australian...I love her just the way she is, but I know there will be many subtle changes happening over time as she gradually assimilates into our life together in this new Country.
I think the more presing issue is the subtle ways she brings many of her own ways to our life together...and maybe she will be quietly working away to "Chinesefy" me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....I wouldnt be surprised at that. She is as determined and as tough as most Chinese Women are !!
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So I take it David that the lady's unmentionables drying in the bathroom are quite fine with you. ;D
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Willy I have already been in contact with the Chinese/American society here where I live, so Ping can make some friends. Decorated the place until it resembles a Chinese restaurant and moved the toilet into the shower. Hoping that we can someday sell everything here and move back to China . Hopefully she will have dual citizenship by then.
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Xia can do what ever she likes. When the baby comes things may change a little as she will have to learn about Australian schooling etc. Also a chance for me to learn more Chinese she teach the baby and I learn from that.
James you are aware that China does not recognise dual citizenship.
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James you are aware that China does not recognise dual citizenship.
:o No Jason I wasn't aware of this-Not even just Ping having dual citizenship? :o Her parents gave us a house as a wedding present in Nanning and it is in our names in Pings family "history book". Do you or anyone know if American citizens can own property in China? I myself would like to retire to China one day. Sell everything here and move there with a couple million Yuan in our pockets ....we could buy a lot of noodles....if the dollar doesn't keep falling ;D
Also like to wish you and Xia a belated congratulations on your upcoming bundle of joy!!
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James no foreigners can't own property in China.What ever property you were given or whatever you buy will have to be in your wife's name.China Doesn't recognise duel citizenship.
When your wife arrives in the states you will have to adjust your wife's status.Depending on what visa you applied for.is how long you have to adjust your wife's status.The time frame on each visa is different.I applied for a fiancee visa for my wife.So after we were married in the states.I had like 30 days.To apply to adjust my wife's status.Arnold applied for the married visa.After Qing arrived in the United states.Arnold had up to a year to adjust Qing's status.
When you adjust your wife's status.Your wife will receive a green card.With a fiancee visa it is a temporay greencard that is good for 2 years.Then you have to apply for the permanent greencard which is valid for 10 years.With a wife visa when you adjust your wife's status it comes with a permanent greencard.Which is valid for 10 years.After 10 years.You will have to apply for another permanent greencard.There is no law on the books.That says your wife has to become a U.S. citizen.
As long as you and your wife keep the greencard valid.She can travel anywhere in the world you can.The only thing you have to remember is when you buy airplane tickets for international destinations.Make sure the name on your wife passport matches.The airplane ticket exactly.China may not acknowledge duel citizenship.But the U.S. does so use it to your advantage.
When you travel back to china to live or visit your wife can use her passport.You will still need a visa to go to China.
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Hahaha Shaun...
I dare not admit it, but our second bathroom is now permanently festooned with drying underwear...including mine !!!!
Ming adamantly refuses to dry undies and personals outside...I gave up worrying about this in week 2.....
It is not life threatening, and really is only mildly perplexing....but not worth getting riled up about.
Of equal perplexity is the heap of shoes/slippers/thongs just inside the front door. I know it is common in every Chinese household, but very rare in Aus. We dont have this dread phobia that naked feet must never touch the ground, in fact as I walk around the house and garden with bare feet there is always a worried look on her face that I will catch some dreadful disease.
Even our visitors are now getting to the habit of leaving their shoes at the front door and donning slippers....when in Rome, do as the Chinese do... ;D ;D ;D
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As I understand it there are one or two places where a foreigner can own property in China. I think Guangzhou is one of them. But not 100% sure.
Our home is in my wifes name. It is in her name but that is no problem for me. The cost of the property is a small price to pay for the love I have received already. However we have been to a legal eagle and we have signed papers to the fact that I have right to live their for rest of my life. In the remote possibility that my wife passes away before me then I have the right to continue living here for my remaining days. I have no children so my wifes children will take over the property upon my demise. That is unless I live for another 60 years or more and the government take it away.
Willy
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Willy, Here is to hoping you have the issue of the government taking your property in 60 years. Just think of the records you will set.
David I am looking forward to having some of the same issues.
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I just got back to the USA and I miss those lovely eyes already. But I am going to fill my time trying to close on my new house, go see mom on her birthday and spend thanksiving with my kids.
Fiona thinks I have left her to fight the embassy all alone and find her way to America by herself. I didn't tell her I booked a return trip ticket. I am saving that surprise until after she gets approval and her interview is scheduled.
Meanwhile......
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Just an update of property now. The Chinese Goverment has imposed a spec ial order on Zhuhai to prevent house prices spiralling above the 15,000 rmb a sq m.
They have imposed a maximu selling price of 11,500 per sq m. Any one goning over that rate will not be given a certificate to sell a property.
Willy
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I read a few reports about real estate housing markets. The central govenrment it trying several controls to try to keep house prices less than 15,000 yuan/sqmeter. It doesnt seem to be working in Guangzhou.
Guangzhou is tried to get prices lower in 2010 and it was reported to be working but this year the prices are back up near the 15,00 yuan/sqmeter range. Its been a crazy market in GZ. Fiona DOUBLED her money in seven years when she sold last year.
full articles.
http://www.china.org.cn/video/2010-05/25/content_20109997.htm (http://www.china.org.cn/video/2010-05/25/content_20109997.htm)
http://www.neeeet.com/En/NewsDetails.aspx?id=265 (http://www.neeeet.com/En/NewsDetails.aspx?id=265)
Dont know how much to trust the second article. It is written by a real estate company, not a journalist.
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The Government here is concerned that the housing bubble will burst as it has in the USA and the UK so they are bringing in more and more restrictions.
Problem is that nowadays people think of their homes as an investment and not what is is - A HOME.
Still they may be worth a lot more when the government takes then back at the end of the tenure.
Willy
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Problem is that nowadays people think of their homes as an investment and not what is is - A HOME.
Exactly Willy !!! I have seen close Friends ( one has build his own House ) just because they now owe more than the House is Worth , they just left it and I bet they now Rent at not much less of a Monthly payment . I really don't know what was in their Mind to do this . I can see if you have two-three Houses , but the one you LIVE in ?
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GOOD for you Gerry, A nice surprise is all everyone needs, I hope Fiona is very elated to see your return, As for those beautiful eyes, I hope to look deep in to the eyes of my beautiful Chinese wife again on December 22. John.
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Thanks Maxx Very useful information (knowledge is Power) ;D Just finishing up with the NVC and moving on to the interview process.... hoping for the beginning of the year. She will be getting a spouse Visa if the interview goes well :o can't help to get a queasy stomach thinking about it, but she is armed with 4 big binders of pictures- e-mails-phone records -receipts ect ect ect - My sweet LaoPuo is nervous about answering questions of a most personal nature. I told her just to say "all night long" and "best ever" in other words.......lie lie lie ;D
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he he , good answers, My wife was not asked any personal questions in our interview, just mainly questions about my family members ages and my general information , The interview went very well and now nearly two months later we are getting closer to a decision, I received and email from our immigration lawyer a week ago saying that my wife's application was under consideration at this moment, A few sleepless nights have followed, I have never been so nervous in my life until now, Waiting, waiting, waiting, John .
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I don't think anyone has to worry about being asked questions of a very personal nature. That would not permitted in most countries. If they did you would have a case against that person under some statutue or other and get them classified as a pervert. In the UK they would end up on the sex offenders register so it is a definate no go area.
In all my years I have never heard of anyone being asked about what happens after dark, under sheets or whatever you like to call it.
I await with interest as to if any person has first hand knowledge that this was not the case.
The nearest my friend got to a bedroom question was 'what is the colour of the bedroom walls' and 'where is the alarm clock situated' This was in response to the application for permanent residency of UK two years after marriage.
Willy
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In all my years I have never heard of anyone being asked about what happens after dark, under sheets or whatever you like to call it.
I await with interest as to if any person has first hand knowledge that this was not the case.
Willy
I haven't heard as well any of this questions when the spouse is applying from overseas. But if the applicant is already living in our country on another type of visa, and then applies for permanent because of marriage in country, then personal questions will be asked. They usually interview both parties separately. If answers such as how often they do the horizontal tango every month do not agree, then the application will be viewed as bogus.
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In all my years I have never heard of anyone being asked about what happens after dark, under sheets or whatever you like to call it.
I await with interest as to if any person has first hand knowledge that this was not the case.
Willy
I haven't heard as well any of this questions when the spouse is applying from overseas. But if the applicant is already living in our country on another type of visa, and then applies for permanent because of marriage in country, then personal questions will be asked. They usually interview both parties separately. If answers such as how often they do the horizontal tango every month do not agree, then the application will be viewed as bogus.
But Do you know that as fact or heresay Ron. I would not want couples to be practising the translations for things that will never be asked.
Willy
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For Aus in particular, it is expressley written in the Immigration Charter and Procedures that it is against our Law to ask any questions reference personal sexual matters.
They can sort of skirt around this subject by asking if you stayed in the same room whem visiting your G/F. fiance or Wife when you visited...but they can go no further than this.
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But Do you know that as fact or heresay Ron. I would not want couples to be practising the translations for things that will never be asked.
Willy
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Quote Reply Posted: 28 Nov 2010 at 5:17pm
wow. my husband told me that the lady who interviewed him was the devil! he showed her a picture of us together swimming with 2 of his guy friends along. she asked him who were the 2 fellows and if he was gay!
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OP 2 Processing Members of the Family Class
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Officers may need to closely examine evidence that a marriage took place. Photographs or other
documents used as evidence of a marriage can be altered. Marriage certificates and other
documents may be fraudulent.
In some instances, home visits may be used to establish cohabitation in the case of a marriage or
common-law relationship.
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I have heard that they will check the bedroom & washroom and look to see if articles of clothing (ex; Pajama, underwear) and toiletries of both parties are present.
An owner of a video store from India I know, has a relative that supposedly married and when asked how many times a month they were intimate, he said once a month and his supposed wife said 2 times a week.
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"check the bedroom & washroom and look to see if articles of clothing (ex; Pajama, underwear)"
Ahhhhh!!! Not without a warrant they can't (in the US). They can only look at what is in plain site.
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Very nice Rhonald but heresay.
One says " My husband told me" heresay not in the hearing of the writer!
'I have heard that they will check the bedroom" heresay heard by another and passed on.
"The ownerof a video store I know" heresay not heard directly by the writer.
What I was looking for is people amongst the 400 here on this forum whom themselves had been asked Intimate questions.
It maybe that Canada has different laws to everyone else. But has anyone actually ever had a HOME visit after submitting the paperwork?
I think you guys trying to get your ladys home have enough paperwork and worries without adding to them things that are heresay and without foundation.
Willy
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Ha , looks like the Indian husband was missing out , so where was she going ha ha , regards Sujuan and Robert .
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Willy
You are right (as usual) it is very scary to present potential applicants with fears about intimate questions that will never be asked.
As a FACT, the only questions that Ming was asked by her Case Officer that just barely touched on this subject was "did you stay in the same hotel room together when David visited you in China"...and that was all .
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I read the official transcript that was written by hand by the interviewer when my friend and his wife had to go to Sheffield in UK for an interview. The interviewer interviewed them both seperate and asked them both the same questions and wrote down both the question and their answers. I had a copy of these somewhere.
They asked when and where was their first date. The colour of the bedroom walls was one another was where was the alarm clock. How did they Pay for electricty. And what day did the dustins (garbage cans) get emptied.
They travelled a round trip of about 400 miles for that! She received leave to remain after her two years and nowshe has a UK Passport. The reason for the interview was because of age differences.
Willy
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Very nice Rhonald but heresay.
One says " My husband told me" heresay not in the hearing of the writer!
'I have heard that they will check the bedroom" heresay heard by another and passed on.
"The ownerof a video store I know" heresay not heard directly by the writer.
What I was looking for is people amongst the 400 here on this forum whom themselves had been asked Intimate questions.
Of course I was not present during the interview so I do not have direct proof. The part of the home visit is not from any person but the official Canada document for Visa officers to use. the part ," In some instances, home visits may be used to establish cohabitation in the case of a marriage or
common-law relationship." makes me ask you, what purpose would the visit make if they did not look around the house for evidence? Of course it makes sense that this could only be done with applicants that currently live together in Canada and not abroad.
Now the woman bowere is from another Canada immigration blog site I follow and I have read other peoples response that had personnel questions revelled but hers was the first I found. But since they are not members of this site, I just finished asking my wife.
Rhonald 6:32:01 AM
in interview last year
Rhonald 6:32:15 AM
visa officer ask any personal questions?
Zoey 6:34:17 AM
same for us questions
Rhonald 6:34:37 AM
I mean any questions on how many times make love?
Zoey 6:35:56 AM
visa officer ask you and me
Rhonald 6:36:07 AM
you and me what?
Zoey 6:36:26 AM
what time make love
Rhonald 6:36:42 AM
when first sleep together?
Zoey 6:36:47 AM
evryday make love too many time
Rhonald 6:36:57 AM
ask how often make love?
Zoey 6:37:00 AM
you what said
Rhonald 6:37:10 AM
never ask me question
Rhonald 6:37:20 AM
You remember Willy
Zoey 6:37:26 AM
yes
Rhonald 6:37:38 AM
he say England visa officer no can ask that kind of question
Rhonald 6:37:46 AM
I say Canada visa officer can
Rhonald 6:37:51 AM
he no believe me
Rhonald 6:38:08 AM
so I want know if visa officer ask you
Rhonald 6:39:26 AM
so what was visa officer question
Zoey 6:39:39 AM
do;t interview so dolt worry
Rhonald 6:40:13 AM
you no understand: did visa officer ask question on us make love?
Zoey 6:40:43 AM
veryday 3- 4 times make love
Rhonald 6:41:07 AM
he ask you and your answer this: veryday 3- 4 times make love ?
Zoey 6:41:17 AM
yes
Zoey 6:41:25 AM
somtime
Zoey 6:41:44 AM
sometime too many time somtime 1 time
Rhonald 6:41:58 AM
that was your answer to visa officer?
Zoey 6:42:11 AM
yes
Zoey 6:42:33 AM
no
Rhonald 6:42:42 AM
what no
Zoey 6:42:55 AM
said rmemeber ,said too many times
Rhonald 6:43:24 AM
oh you mean that was your answer: said too many times
Zoey 6:43:41 AM
yes
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Now I wasn't in the room when they asked her the question, and it would have been in Chinese anyways so I still do not have first hand knowledge. I am trying to remember that after the interview if I did ask her if any personnel questions was asked. I think I remember also asking then, and that she did say the question on how often love making was done was asked of her.
Willy
You are right (as usual) it is very scary to present potential applicants with fears about intimate questions that will never be asked.
I say David that before saying Willy is right and I Ron, I would say it is better to be slightly paranoid and be better prepared. So please David, do not Condemn (this Boy Scout) for having a Condom ready incase he passes first base. ::)
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Well that has to be in Canada. No where else would they get away with it.
Mind you someone just sent me a PM and said that he and his wife just had a row. He said he just told her that he was a fool when they married.
She replied "I knew that but I was in love'
So its one up to Canada at the moment. Looking forward to hearing from some other Canadians on their experiences.
Willy
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I am on QQ right now Willy, by the way top of the morning to you, and on the web cam I saw her blush when I typed in the question. We can see each other and she can hear me, but I do not get audio from her side. But then cutting and pasting her response works better for me to show our discussion.
I must admit it is difficult to find reputable proof while searching for more evidence. I guess I can always phone our own government immigration help line and get an official (but bureaucratic) response to their stance on what are acceptable questions.
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Ron
My coment was not meant as a criticism, because I obviously cannot spek for what is the appropriate line of questions for the Canadian (or any other) Immigration Rules. I can only speak with some certainty about how these things are dealt with under the Aussie protocols.
...and Aussie Human Rights issues
If your Canadian Interviewers feel free to ask such intimate questions then:
* It must be allowable under your regulations
* It is not allowable but they do it anyway...and who is gonna complain ??????
Either which way it is an appalling state of affairs that any woman/couple should need to discuss such stuff with total strangers...whatever the circumstances and I am sure any half-decent Human Rights Lawyer would have a ball with prosecuting such an offence....but again, who is going to go down that track...nobody, so apparently there is no options but to suck it up (sic !!)
So keep the condoms close.....my comments were not a condescending condescention, commensurate with my own connotation !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ron
My coment was not meant as a criticism, because I obviously cannot spek for what is the appropriate line of questions for the Canadian (or any other) Immigration Rules.
* It must be allowable under your regulations
* It is not allowable but they do it anyway...and who is gonna complain ??????
I never took it as criticism as both you and Willy could only make asumptions based on your own experiences. If when I search I can find lists of possible questions the immigration officer might ask, and never do they seem to be that intimate of a question. But I believe your second bullet is most likely closer to the truth. So even if I phone our CIC call center, the stated policy might not match reality. So the world might be flat and Galileo just an odd ball.
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I will be sure to discuss the possibility with Fiona before her interview.. I don't think they will ask any questions about intimacy but if they do I hope the intiviewer is of the same sex. Otherwise I wish I could be there to take his photo. Fiona loves a good practical joke.
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If your Canadian Interviewers feel free to ask such intimate questions then:
* It must be allowable under your regulations
* It is not allowable but they do it anyway...and who is gonna complain ??????
This is my point exactly David. Do they have an express written regulation or is it just some pervert who wants to get off by asking a vunerable lady such personal questions? The lady may well try to answer even though she finds it embarrassing. Do we know if official notes are made of this line of questioning? At least with the UK they have to write down each question and answer given and you sign the paper after the interview and you have read through it. Does this happen elsewhere?
Maybe this should be a thread in its own right so it can be found more easily by future members.
Willy
Willy
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In our interview, after I was allowed back in the interview chamber, he did type into the computer each time I responded to his question. At the end there was no paper that we read or signed. He said that he had enough evidence to think we had a genuine relationship, and he gave back all our supporting documents (ie: pictures, letters, moneytransfer statements, nicked knickers.....oops I mean legal briefs ::)).
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I think the real problem is that we are a highly vulnerable group when contemplating such matters as possible inappropriate behaviour from Immigration Case Officers discussing the validity of our various relationships.
After all, we are terrified that if we upset them in any way, we can get rejected or put back to the bottom of the pile.
I know in Aus we have a clearly defined appeals mechanism to challenge their findings, and this would include such "sexual, forbidden lines of questioning"
Trouble is, the appeals process takes Centuries and again we would tend to keep shtum and let the due proces happen so that we can be together with our wife/fiance.
We are not concerned with Civil Liberies, Public Sector Standards or Illegal questions, but I dont have any serious doubts that if we could prove such stuff, then we would win hands down....but probably take years to go through the various Boards, Commissions and whatever. So the safe option is choke on it and let due process happen.
This of course is wrong, but until somebody makes a stand, they will feel free to keep getting away with it....and most people are too scared to make this stand...(me included !!)
I have some evidence that there is a level of illegal questions being used by Aus Immigration (maybe at the whim of specific Case Officers....certainly not Official Policy)...but the 2 couples in question were dead set on leaving it alone, they did not want to take the risk of upsetting the bas***ds.
As usual, we are the ones that get screwed, we have very little recourse against such behaviour. If, for instance, your wife/fiance took a tape recorder to her interview with a view to obtaining a full record of all questions, how far would the application go ???...straight into the bin at worst, or down to the absolute bottom of the pile at best.
I dont have any sensible solution for this potential problem...sorry
To specifically answer your question Willy....there is a written Charter forbidding them to ask questions of a specific sexual nature. There is a Law of the Land ref. Civil Liberties and Freedom of Information that overrides the Immigration Department. We NEVER get a written transcript of interview....this may be provided at an appeal process, so somehwere, they take notes, but how accurate and complete is not known, and without a written record on the day given to all parties, how can they ever get caught !!
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Too bad recorderrs are not allowed. It's a perfect way for keeping everyone in line and following procedures.
Should they be allowed? Why not?
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David you have just explained my dilemma. I know the the interviewer at the American Consulate made comments there were lies designed to get Peggy to fall apart and fall apart she did. Once she gained her composure it was too late. They lied to her. The consulate has pulled every trick in the book to keep information from me. I know they have transcripts of the conversation. It would be the US Government if they didn't.
I won't go across all of the facts again; many of you already know them. Peggy was turned down May the 4th and on the 17th they said I would have to wait 120 days before they would reopen the case here in the US to see if there was something done wrong. That has increased to 180 days now which would be December 17th. If they find something done incorrectly do you know what they do with it? They send it right back to Guangzhou and do it over again. What do you think they are going to do? Admit they did something wrong? Hardly.
I asked my weenie Congressman to request the documents through the freedom of information act. Their reply? No, not while it is under investigation. Then we will have to file with the department of state. That could take years. The weenie congressman sent 3 letters and got 3 different rejections. I contacted my Senator's office. They don't want to get involved until the weenie congressman give up. He has but he hasn't.
So here I sit between an angry Chinese fiance and Obama. One wants to hit me over the head and the other wants me to bend over and take it like a man. :o
There is more I could say but what is the point.
So David I see the others reluctance to stir the pudding.
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So here I sit between an angry Chinese fiance and Obama. One wants to hit me over the head and the other wants me to bend over and take it like a man. :o
shaun you know me, i had to say something about tis comment please accept my apologies...just WHO want to do WHAT to you, please clarify ;D ;D ;D :o
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Robbie. Either way I'm on the losing end.
>:( :o :'(
Besides Rob, if I need to explain this to you at your age then I need to send the president to your house. ;D
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Just reminded me , of the old saying " Make Love .. Not War " ! I think our Government might have that confused , if your ready to fight .. they'll hand you the Paperwork right away .. even help filling them out . Sucks big time !!!
What was that saying ... " We are only Pawns in the Game of Life " ohhh Blazing Saddle's " Mungo " . This is how the Gov./Immigration People look at us . They always keep us in " Check " willing or not .
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I think to all governements are the same.
To them relationships such as ours are easy meat. Just look for the slightest loophole and theres another notch on their butt. What is even worse is that the need so little to issue a denial.
Same as insurance - why try to dispute a half million claim that needs a lot of work on it when you can more easily get rid of 10 x 100,000 claims through minor loopholes found in the claim form with less effort.
Willy
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Shaun
I cant really add much to this issue, except to share your angst and hope fervently that it all works out for you and Peggy eventually.
Wouldn't you think that if you really had a "fake" relationship, then after your first rejection you would give the whole thing away and take up creative Macrame or something !
But the fact that despite this rejection you keep on going and are still together surely it MUST tell these drongos that you are both serious ?
Or is that simple logic too much for the Beaurocratic lightweights !!
Best of luck...hang in there
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Shaun, good luck to you..
my status:
About 9 months and counting
Feb 22, 2011. Sent petition to USCIS
Feb 28, 2011. They cashed the check
March 2 2011. Received receit confirmation letter from USCIS.
April 3, 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
May 10 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
June 13 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
June 30 I received a 5 page document "request for evidence" . They want everythink they could think of to prove a bonafied marriage.
July 26 2011 Mailed respons to RFE to USCIS
August 3rd USCIS acknowledged receipt of my response and began reviewing it. They promised a reply within 60 days.
August 26 Your Case Status: Request for Evidence Response Review
September 23 2011 Your Case Status: Request for Evidence Response Review
October 8 2011. Received request for evidence for prior marriage divorce document. (already provided in previous mailing)
October 10 2011 Your Case Status:Request for Evidence Response Review
On October 24, 2011, we received your response to our request for evidence. This case is being processed at our CALIFORNIA SERVICE CENTER location. If you move while this case is pending, please use our Change of Address online tool to update your case with your new address or call our customer service center at 1-800-375-5283. We will notify you by mail when we make a decision or if we need something from you. You should expect to receive a written decision or written update within 60 days of the date we received your response
Nov. 16 2011 Your Case Status:Request for Evidence Response Review
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Gerry; Good luck to you too.
Do you remember seeing a puppy chasing it's tail. Round and round and round it goes trying to catch it? This is exactly how I feel in dealing with this immigration issue.
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Gerry
Sorry to hear this-I know it can be a hair pulling ordeal to say the least. I hired a lawyer...well I'm not sure if he is a real lawyer, but seems to know his stuff. He ask me to provide the following info/evidence-
Proof of meeting/relationship:
5 pictures of you two taken together better to be film-dated
Copy of flight itineraries, tickets, boarding passes, and receipts to show you were together.
Emails between you two select 5 of each（select those not mentioning about dating website）
Personal Letters (regular mails if any)
Engagement Ring receipt if any
Phone Bill if any
Flowers Order
Money remittances if you have sent money to her
This is what I sent them-
18"x18" box with copies of over
1500 e-mails from Me to Ping and Ping to Me
over 100 pages of telephone records
300 pages of instant messages from QQ
Copy of flight itineraries, tickets, boarding passes, from my two trips -not to mention all restaurant and hotel receipts
all receipts from our travels while in China
Receipts from Ping's ring and Wedding dinner
over 1000 photos of my trips (get the copies in China)
all personal letters and Western Union receipts of the monies I sent Ping
I also sent the receipt from The U.S. consulate and all the proof they had requested(One US passport style picture, 2"x2", white background, lightly print your name on the back- One copy of your U.S. birth certificate- One copy of your passport and visa to China with exit and entry stamps- Copies of documents showing that each prior marriage was legally terminated, for example divorce, death decrees)
When I went to China to marry Ping, I had two pieces of luggage -my checked bag and the bag I carried with four big binders (the big 4" ones) These binders had the originals of the above-these I left with Ping after we spent one whole day at a Chinese photo shop getting all of our photos copied and making copies of all the e-mails, phone records, ect. ect. ect. for me (to carry back to the States) I am right now preparing the fifth binder to send to Ping for her interview in three weeks. She is worried, but I told her to act American and slam the binders down on the desk and ask "Where's my Visa?"-(I know she won't do it)
I swear I am not bragging- but want any new members to know SAVE EVERYTHING -SAVE EVERYTHING -SAVE EVERYTHING
I filed May 15th (Chicago office) got a notice that it had been received and that my case had been shipped to the California Service Center. We got approved by the USCIS in 3 months -I just got the notice today that the NVC will take 3 weeks before Ping's interview in Guangzhou.
New members please remember this SAVE EVERYTHING
Give the originals to your bride, but make copies for yourself
If your not sure if it should be included...send it anyways
and keep saving everything even after you are married
and the most important thing to remember....
if you can't dazzle them with your brilliance -baffle them with your........
Good luck to you Gerry -I hope you get good news soon-I know you both deserve to be Happy
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December 10 and I just checked status. still waiting on the response review.
1 year ago today celebrating our wedding at pizza hut.
Fiona,
One day a year to recognize 364 other days of happiness, laughter, love and joy that you give me.
Thank you for everything. Thank you for being my partner, spouse, lover, and friend. No one else would understand our relationship, and no one else in this world would understand me the way you do. You are truly a blessing from God. Your love has made me a better person.
Happy Anniversary to my lovely wife.
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Happy anniversary to both yourself and Fiona, and I hope there are many more to come , MinYing and John.
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Well you two .. Happy "FIRST" year ! as you know , there has to be a first .. before there can be a "SECOND" ! ;D Happy Anni !
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Happy Anniversary Gerry. I know it is difficult for you and your wife being separated right now. You need to get back to that women.
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Happy Anniversary, I have everything crossed that as an anniversary gift the government will give Fiona her visa.
Cheers, Jason and Xia
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Many thanks. I hope so too. I am trying to stay busy. Bouncing around this new house trying to get everything put away and looking nice for their arrival. But I sure wish she were here to help decorate and go shopping for the things we need to finish the place out.
I am guessing sometime in Feb, seh will get her visa.
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Our internet went down two days ago in Guangzhou. So we cant QQ chat with each other which is driving us both crazy. She has been checking all the wireless routers in the apartment complex to see if she can find one with out security but they are all password protected. Then she says I know. I'll just go to starbucks or McDonalds and use their wifi. So off she goes with her lap top to the nearest McDonalds. We should be chatting on QQ shortly.
What a clever wife. She is a techno-computer geek and I like that.
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I have yet to see a decent wifi signal in China. I was beginning to think they use a different wavelength or something.
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try starbucks they were the best we found
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Gerry. Suddenly I can't talk to Peggy either on the internet. She told me her computer was broke so she took it to work and couldn't get on there either. Do you think the internet is down throughout Guangzhou?
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Maybe not so much down as out for a few days. This week I have had to be on the proxy to get on.
Thought they were just keeping a check on me!
But Today is OK.
Willy
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Thanks Willy.
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Just heard on BBC news that something is happening in a section of the province so maybe the reason why it has been restricted of late. Nothing too serious.
Willy
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The internet is back up at our house.
The problem was some construction was goint on and some boy fell into a hole into the underground. she said they had to dig a big hole to rescue him and in the process tore up a lot of utilities. At least that is the story Fiona got from the internet provider.
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I am heading back to Guangzhou on Jan, first. I hope I can bring them home with me this time. I am predicting a favorable decision sometime in Jan. and a run for the border in Feb. Maybe wishful thinking but that's my hope.
I am taking my tax returns for the last three years and an affidavit of support form. They already have just about every other document I could think of.
Anything else I should carry with me?
Does electronic processing apply only to her or can I also use it to send in the affidavit and other correspondence with NVC?
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Does electronic processing apply only to her or can I also use it to send in the affidavit and other correspondence with NVC?
For Qing's Son , my Lawyer recommended to do it electronically this time and it is much faster for us . No going to Post Office sending it registered Mail and wait . Also we can start on Part two ( NVC ) right away . Pay them the same way . Nice .
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Oh my gosh, another snag. Does it ever end. This morning I was gettin the Affidavit of support ready just to get the jump on things. When I got to the line for income I was dumbfounded. They are not asking for how much money I brought in but they wanted the adjusted gross income from your last tax return. Well that's a negative number for me. Most of my income for that year was not taxable so it did not get counted in the tax return. I showed a loss because of my rental property. So I can't very well put a negative number on the affidavit for my total income. I talked with my tax guy (who also does immigration service) and he said I will probably be denied unless I had a very good explanation (and proof) or I showed significant assets or I had a cosponsor. Any which way I choose to go I smell another 60-120 day delay.
I don't know if it would have made any difference but I am kicking myself for not starting the affidavit sooner. I have suitcases packed and a one way ticket to Guangzhou leaving on Sunday morning.
I am not a rich man but not a poor one either. I know without a doubt that I can support myself and two others very well. I just cant prove it with an income tax return. Any advice on which way to go.
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I don't know your whole situation. Are you incorporated? Is there a income from that rental property, etc and I don't need to know. That tax guy should have known what loop to use? Maybe get a hold of a good accountant that can come up with a solution?
I've always had this same problem (personal income on tax return). Company pays most or some of the bills which makes it not a personal income? I was looking into this myself on what can be presented to show support on the visa?
We have an accountant here? Shoot a PM to lfputman3 maybe he has an answer?
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Thanks guys. Line 22 is also negative.
I am out of time so I am dumping everything in my accountants lap this afternoon.
He plans to list all my cash and assets and hope that is enough to sway a favorable decision. If it gets kicked back we will find a cosponsor.
I am getting ahead of myself. We still don't have the USCIS blessing of a bonafied marriage.
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Cool ! thanks Robert. I got it covered many times over. I will stop worring so much now. But not for long. I think worry is my middle name.
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I have read the answer to this somewhere before but now I cant find it.
In regards to Katie's (stepdaughter) i-130 petition. Nowhere do they ask for the non custodial parent's permission for the child to immigrate...BUT! 12 years ago I was asked either by the NVC or Guangzhou embassy (don't remember which) my stepsons natural fathers permission.
So now I am scared about yet another surprise from the USCIS and another 60 day delay.
I have my stepdaughters petition with all the mentioned required documents ready to mail back to the USCIS.
Now my multi- part question.
1a. Is it really required? by who? the USA or Chinese government?
1. should I wait until I get the natural fathers permission and mail it along with the petition or wait until they ask for it?
2. is there an official form for this permission?
3. He is Hong Kong. We will be processed out of Guangzhou. Should we get it notarized in Hong Kong or have hime come here to Guangzhou.
Fiona seems to remember that he should come to Guangzhou but she is not sure.
Just a side note. The document that they said they needed and that I have sent to them over 60 days ago. I looked at the original petition that I filed way back in March 2011, and guess what. It was right there in front of them but they overlooked it somehow. That mistake cost us another 60 days and another round trip airfare. (Im shaking my head and rolling my eyes right now).
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Pineau, one thing you have to remember is both countries will want proof or the fathers consent to make sure the child isn't being kidnapped, sold to slavery or the sex trade. I'll leave the rest to the more knowledgeable on the subject.
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I have read the answer to this somewhere before but now I cant find it.
In regards to Katie's (stepdaughter) i-130 petition. Nowhere do they ask for the non custodial parent's permission for the child to immigrate...BUT! 12 years ago I was asked either by the NVC or Guangzhou embassy (don't remember which) my stepsons natural fathers permission.
So now I am scared about yet another surprise from the USCIS and another 60 day delay.
I have my stepdaughters petition with all the mentioned required documents ready to mail back to the USCIS.
Now my multi- part question.
1a. Is it really required? by who? the USA or Chinese government?
1. should I wait until I get the natural fathers permission and mail it along with the petition or wait until they ask for it?
2. is there an official form for this permission?
3. He is Hong Kong. We will be processed out of Guangzhou. Should we get it notarized in Hong Kong or have hime come here to Guangzhou.
Fiona seems to remember that he should come to Guangzhou but she is not sure.
Just a side note. The document that they said they needed and that I have sent to them over 60 days ago. I looked at the original petition that I filed way back in March 2011, and guess what. It was right there in front of them but they overlooked it somehow. That mistake cost us another 60 days and another round trip airfare. (Im shaking my head and rolling my eyes right now).
Pineau,
The father's permission will be required and presented to the consulate when she goes for the interview. The following is what is needed to be sent with the I-130 .
If you are a U.S. citizen and the father or stepparent of the child or son or daughter, you must file the following with the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services:
Form I-130, Petition for Alien Relative
A copy of your birth certificate or U.S. passport
If you were not born in the U.S., a copy of either:
your Certificate of Naturalization or Citizenship or
your U.S. passport
A copy of the child's birth certificate showing the child's name and the names of both parents
A copy of civil marriage certificate showing the names of both parents, or proof that a parent/child relationship exists or existed (if you are petitioning for a stepchild, your marriage to the child's parent must take place before the stepchild's 18th birthday)
A copy of any divorce decrees, death certificates, or annulment decrees that establish the termination of any previous marriages entered into by you or your spouse
Fathers petitioning for a child born out of wedlock must provide evidence that a parent/child relationship exists or existed. For example, the child's birth certificate displaying the father's name, evidence showing that the father and child at some point lived together, or that the father held out the child as his own, or that he has made financial contributions in support of the child, or that in general his behavior evidenced genuine concern for and interest in the child. A blood test proving paternity may also be necessary.
If anyone's name has been legally changed (if it differs from the name on his or her birth certificate), evidence of the name change must be submitted.
Here is what Guangzhou says about what evidence they require for the interview.
I'm divorced and applying for an immigrant visa. Do I need permission from my ex-spouse to take our child to the United States?
The Consulate generally accepts either a notarized copy of the custody agreement currently in effect, or a notarized statement from the ex-spouse giving the child permission to travel. This requirement can vary, however, according to the circumstances of each case, and is ultimately at the discretion of the adjudicating consular officer.
Best Wishes, Robert
P.S. I would wait until Fiona received her NOA2 for her I-130 before sending the child's I-130. The reason being is you should be able to request an expedite for the child's petition based on the fact that the mother has an approved I-130 at this time. You should do a cover letter for her petition and write in BIG RED letters EXPEDITE PLEASE, MOTHER has an APPROVED I-130 already and list the receipt number of her mother's approved NOA2 letter. :)
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It makes me a little nervous to wait to file it but maybe you are correct. Big red letters would perhaps wake them up.
The bone head in Guangzhou that translated the divorce decree said the ....child has been in the custody of the mother,,, rather than the mother is given full custody of the child. I think we need to go back to the notary office and have it made perfectly clear that she has full custody. In addition we are going to Hong Kong and paying a visit to the natural father.
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Once your wife's I-130 is approved at USCIS and forwarded to NVC you will be in a better position of getting the expedite approved for the daughter's petition because of her mother's approved petition creating a potential family emergency, which is one of the grounds used to determine eligibility for expedites. You will have the ability to control the speed of the process at NVC, because they have to wait on you and your wife to complete and send all the required documents for processing to continue. The approved I-130 for your wife never expires ( the fees and some documents do though after 1 year) If the daughter's I-130 is expedited and then joined with her mother's I-130 then they will interview together and hopefully receive their visas together. You should make it very clear in the expedite request that the mother has sole custody and leaving her behind is not an option. You are the one that needs to delay your wife's processing long enough to allow the daughter's petition to be approved and forwarded to NVC to be joined with her mother's case. Once the cases are together at NVC then opt in to the electronic processing. With the cases joined together you will only have to pay 1 AOS fee, but you will have to pay every fee for the daughter that you pay for the mother. ie... IV fee, medical, EMS fees. I hate to mention this as a reason also, but if for some reason her mother's case is not approved at USCIS then you will have lost another 420 dollars by sending in the daughter's I-130 petition since her petition will be denied also. I am listing the guidelines USCIS uses for determining expedites.
Please keep in mind that expedite requests for applications and petitions will be considered based upon the following criteria:
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Severe financial loss to company or individual
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Situations of extreme emergency
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Humanitarian situation
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Nonprofit status of requesting organization advocating the cultural and social interest of the United States
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Department of Defense or National Interest Situation (Note: Request must come from an official U.S. Government entity, stating that delay will be detrimental to the U.S. Government.)
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USCIS error
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Of compelling interest to USCIS
I high-lighted in red the reason your expedite may be considered. Best Wishes and Good Luck, Robert
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Thanks again Robert. If you want to apply for a position at the embassy in Guangzhou I will give you a letter of recommendation.
I am having a blast here. We have been married a year and still discovering each other. Sometimes we laugh so hard we cant breathe and need to stop and rest.
The washing machine is broken. It will wash and rinse but wont go into the spin cycle so we have to wring out the water by hand. I am helping her but she thinks I am doing a lousy job. Each piece I do she can pick up and do again and get more water to come out. So I got fired and sent back into the house to play on the computer. :-) Then she realized I was doing it on purpose and was trying my best to get fired. She looked at me and said I know what your doing, come back here and finish. I said my mother didn't have any stupid children. We laughed for 5 minutes.
She is far from perfect but she is the best I have ever experienced. Same goes for me. I have many faults but I am head and shoulders above anyone else she has ever been with. I hope she is my last wife !!!
Being in China for the past year had really worn me down. I miss home very much. But at the moment I am enjoying being here. I am beginning to think more Chinese and that's kind of scary. I can understand the way the Chines think. I can take China in small doses but I am becoming more tolerant the longer I stay here.
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The washing machine is broken. It will wash and rinse but wont go into the spin cycle
Jump the lid switch out and see if it spins then, also inspect to make sure plastic switch arm/tripper for lid switch is not broken off!. If not you need a new selector switch for cycles.
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I think we are here for another 3-4 months. I don't want to buy a new machine if I can get by without it. I will keep trying but I'll just live with it before I buy another machine.
I think the lid switch is working. There is no selector switch for the cycles. It is computerized.
It will refuse to even try if the lid is open. With it closed I can see the relays and solenoid release the tub so that it can spin but the motor never takes off. I think maybe it is some other "unsafe" sensor preventing power to the motor. Maybe an out of balance sensor is stuck on. I fiddled with it the other day and it started working again after I tilted it on its side but today it has quit again.
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sounds like the relay
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I have read the answer to this somewhere before but now I cant find it.
In regards to Katie's (stepdaughter) i-130 petition. Nowhere do they ask for the non custodial parent's permission for the child to immigrate...BUT! 12 years ago I was asked either by the NVC or Guangzhou embassy (don't remember which) my stepsons natural fathers permission.
So now I am scared about yet another surprise from the USCIS and another 60 day delay.
I have my stepdaughters petition with all the mentioned required documents ready to mail back to the USCIS.
Now my multi- part question.
1a. Is it really required? by who? the USA or Chinese government?
1. should I wait until I get the natural fathers permission and mail it along with the petition or wait until they ask for it?
2. is there an official form for this permission?
3. He is Hong Kong. We will be processed out of Guangzhou. Should we get it notarized in Hong Kong or have hime come here to Guangzhou.
Fiona seems to remember that he should come to Guangzhou but she is not sure.
Just a side note. The document that they said they needed and that I have sent to them over 60 days ago. I looked at the original petition that I filed way back in March 2011, and guess what. It was right there in front of them but they overlooked it somehow. That mistake cost us another 60 days and another round trip airfare. (Im shaking my head and rolling my eyes right now).
Pineau,
The father's permission will be required and presented to the consulate when she goes for the interview. The following is what is needed to be sent with the I-130 .
If you are a U.S. citizen and the father or stepparent of the child or son or daughter, you must file the following with the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services:
Form I-130, Petition for Alien Relative
A copy of your birth certificate or U.S. passport
If you were not born in the U.S., a copy of either:
your Certificate of Naturalization or Citizenship or
your U.S. passport
A copy of the child's birth certificate showing the child's name and the names of both parents
A copy of civil marriage certificate showing the names of both parents, or proof that a parent/child relationship exists or existed (if you are petitioning for a stepchild, your marriage to the child's parent must take place before the stepchild's 18th birthday)
A copy of any divorce decrees, death certificates, or annulment decrees that establish the termination of any previous marriages entered into by you or your spouse
Fathers petitioning for a child born out of wedlock must provide evidence that a parent/child relationship exists or existed. For example, the child's birth certificate displaying the father's name, evidence showing that the father and child at some point lived together, or that the father held out the child as his own, or that he has made financial contributions in support of the child, or that in general his behavior evidenced genuine concern for and interest in the child. A blood test proving paternity may also be necessary.
If anyone's name has been legally changed (if it differs from the name on his or her birth certificate), evidence of the name change must be submitted.
Here is what Guangzhou says about what evidence they require for the interview.
I'm divorced and applying for an immigrant visa. Do I need permission from my ex-spouse to take our child to the United States?
The Consulate generally accepts either a notarized copy of the custody agreement currently in effect, or a notarized statement from the ex-spouse giving the child permission to travel. This requirement can vary, however, according to the circumstances of each case, and is ultimately at the discretion of the adjudicating consular officer.
Best Wishes, Robert
P.S. I would wait until Fiona received her NOA2 for her I-130 before sending the child's I-130. The reason being is you should be able to request an expedite for the child's petition based on the fact that the mother has an approved I-130 at this time. You should do a cover letter for her petition and write in BIG RED letters EXPEDITE PLEASE, MOTHER has an APPROVED I-130 already and list the receipt number of her mother's approved NOA2 letter. :)
One other item that I failed to mention, but WILL be required for the daughter is a passport. She will have her own visa inside her passport so need to be certain the daughter has one. I do not know how long it takes to get a Chinese passport, so might want to check it out now if the daughter does not have one already! Robert
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Were going to get Katie a passport this week.
And some very good news. Katie's father totally agreed to sign any kind of document to allow Katie to travel to the USA, I am going to see him in Hong Kong next week. He want to meet me for some reason. Maybe to make sure I am a good person. hahahahaha! More about him later after I get want and we have VISAs in hand.
IS THERE A STANDARD FORM FOR ASSIGNING CUSTODY ?
The washer is still broken. I cant find the relay. Everything goes back to the computer board. I am still thinking there is some sort of sensor preventing the motor from spinning. The motor is good because it works ok during the wash cycle.
I almost snapped yesterday. I am really fed up with Chinese men and they way they treat the women. We were shopping in a very crowded clothing store and were shuffling along with the crowd. Some big guy comes around the corner and comes face to face with Fiona almost running her down. Then he yells at her to get out of his way. I WENT BALLISTIC ! I yelled back at him. Something like Fuck you big man with a big mouth and reached over to grab him but he was out of reach. The crowd stopped and everything got quiet. I took my stance and tightened my fist. Tense for a moment. We just stared at each other. I knew if he got the first punch he would annihilate me. Then he opened his hands, palms out and backed away. I took a deep breath and could feel my heart pounding. I wish they wouldn't yell at the women....
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walking threw a hospital in Jiujiang China.My wife is in front of me.And are oldest son is walking in front of my wife.Some Chinese guy tries to shove his way passed me.He pushed me into my wife.And she ran into are son.I grabbed the guy by the arm and threw him into the wall.He bounces off the wall.And stands there and looks at me.He gives me his best mad dog look.I give it back to him.and I start calling him dirty names in English.He stands there for a couple of seconds then walks off.20 minutes latter I see the same guy in a different room in the hospital.He sees me and runs over to stand next to the 95 pound security guard..That is stationed in the room.
My first trip to China me and my wife are standing outside a tourist trap in Zhuhai.My wife is talking to the girl at the ticket booth.I'm setting on the rail smoking a cigarette minding my own buissness.Me and my wife.Are the only people at this ticket booth.This kid probably 19 years old runs up to the ticket booth and pushes my wife to the side.And starts talking to the ticket agent.I jump off the rail I'm sitting on.Go over and grab the kid by the back of the shirt.And throw him across the concrete out into the grass.So he slides across the grass.Gets up and stands there and smiles at me.He satands there and Waites until my wife leaves the ticket both.Then he runs back to the ticket window.
My wife is pissed.She says to me why you do that.I said the guy was rude.He needs to learn some manners.So my wife drags out her pocket translater.Looks the words rude and manners up.And says to me the man not rude.This is China this is the way they do that.I told my wife That what the man did was rude in any country.And in most country's he would of ben beaten.She lets it drop after that.She eventually got over being mad.
Last time we were in China.I was trying to get the kid's stroller into the train station in Beijing.Conner and Tristan were riding in the stroller.People were running into the stroller.Tripping over the stroller.One guy almost fell into the stroller With Tristan.I'm hollering at these people.Telling them to get the hell out of the way.My wife is hollering at these people in Chinese.It is doing no good.I finally make it to the entrance ramp.And I can't go any farther.People are coming at us from 2 different directions.Finally this big Europine and his wife walk up.He stops and blocks the crowed.Until I can get the stroller moving again.
I think the reason they are so rude is that there are so many of them.And when you got that many people in one place.If you don't assert yourself.You will always be at the back of the line.
I seen the same thing in Bangkok.Me and my tour guide were looking around a monastery.There was a bunch of Indian girls there.The girls were running back and fourth running into the other tourists.They were stepping on peoples feet.Some Guy from England got tired of it.And one girl stepped on his feet one to many times.He reached out and slapped her on the rear end.I seen him do it.And you could here the girl scream halfway down the block.You know for the rest of the tour.Nobody stepped on the mans feet.I thought it was funny.So when we got done with the tour.I bought the guy a beer.
There is allot of Indians in India.And allot of Chinese in China.So I think they get it into there heads that you have to be rude and pushy.Or your going to get ran over.The Indians I have met in the states and the Chinese I have met here.Are far from being rude.
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"I think the reason they are so rude is that there are so many of them.And when you got that many people in one place.If you don't assert yourself.You will always be at the back of the line."
Absolutely you need to be assertive. Some days I wonder if I can contain it.
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"I think the reason they are so rude is that there are so many of them.And when you got that many people in one place.If you don't assert yourself.You will always be at the back of the line."
Absolutely you need to be assertive. Some days I wonder if I can contain it.
It can only be rudeness if they do it with the intention of being rude or irresponsible. Is a child a dirty little bugger if it pee's on the floor. No of course not. It is because it has not learned any different.
The same with the chinese. It is something that they have been accustomed to for generations. Whereas in the west if someone behaves like that it is because they are a rude, ignorant sonofabitch because they would have probably been raised differently.
Willy
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I have to agree with Willy. It's not a rudeness. Though the train thing has always baffled me even here. Common sense, if the people can't get off the train car you can't get on?
Also in parking lots this is done. Years ago a few times I had to direct traffic in the lane so I could leave my own space.
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Elevators. Why do people insist on getting on before you get off. You'd think logic would apply but it doesn't. You know, limited space and all. There is also the issue of people wanting to be first. I see people all the time pass me in their car. I'm going the speed limit, they pass me and slow down to go the same speed. :o Such is life.
When I was at the hospital with Peggy or at the train station at a window I would stand behind her. If someone attempted to jump in and get their head in the window while she was talking to the clerk I would block them. They would give me dirty looks. I'd give them the look like, do it again and see what happens. They would walk away. Peggy on the other hand smiles because I am the man who takes care of his woman. That's all I need to know.
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I love the ones that push there way to be first in the elevator then is the same one that needs to get off first??? AH if you got in last you wouldn't need to panic trying to get off? Brainless.
If I really want to give them a hard time... I have the master elevator keys (full control of all elevators), I just don't carry them, but I could.
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I like to carry my long over sized umbrella and use it for blocking assholes that try to get around me in the queue. I just hate it when I arrive first in the queue for the subway and by the time the train arrives I am number 4 or 5. so now I take the umbrella and jam it into the doorway so no one can get around that side of me and if the try to go down the middle the conductors will shoo them away.
Willy, your probably right. asserting yourself in this culture is not rude but the guy that almost ran over my wife was rude. All he had to do was side step her and continue on his way. A large man yelling down at a little woman is uncalled for in this situation. Women here need a husband or a boyfriend to to insure equal treatment. Otherwise they treat the women very rough and with disrespect.
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I always laugh at the Chinese in the elevator , They push the button to close the door straight away and try to open the door before the lift settles at their floor, Many times I have blocked people from getting in the lift before we get out, They look at me in amazement for doing this, I like the weight warning signs in the elevators, 1000 kilos or 13 people, In Australia it would read 1000 kilos or 8 people ;D, Also at the train ticket stalls, Same as Shaun, I have blocked many people from pushing in front of my wife and she gives me a smile and they just back off, The escalators are another funny one, After they reach the next floor they just stop and cause a pileup, Many times I have had to push these people out of the way as they do not realise that they are about to cause an accident, John.
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Heh. One time, the elevator door was about to close before we could get in, and I reached in and hit the door so it opened back up again. everyone thought I was going to get my arm cut off or something. It's like nobody ever considered doing something crazy like that.
We saw a foreign man with his Chinese wife waiting for the train in Yunnan. He was ahead of us in the line. This young man and his pretty young wife decide to rush past him, but the foreigner wouldn't let her pass. He kept lecturing her about shoving and queuing, like she could actually understand what he was saying. The boyfriend kept calling his girlfriend to join him, but she couldn't. I kept thinking how rude and ignorant he seemed about Chinese culture.
Later, in the same line, a young man cut in front of me. He accidentally stepped on my foot, turned and apologized. I smiled. Then the crowd surged and I ran into him, apologized, and we both had a good laugh, shrugged and carried on. I was having too much fun to worry about someone getting ahead of me. We had tickets. It's not like the train was going to leave without us.
I saw the foreign man a couple more times on different tours. He didn't seem to be having a lot of fun. I was having the time of my life.
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I like to carry my long over sized umbrella and use it for blocking assholes that try to get around me in the queue. I just hate it when I arrive first in the queue for the subway and by the time the train arrives I am number 4 or 5. so now I take the umbrella and jam it into the doorway so no one can get around that side of me and if the try to go down the middle the conductors will shoo them away.
Willy, your probably right. asserting yourself in this culture is not rude but the guy that almost ran over my wife was rude. All he had to do was side step her and continue on his way. A large man yelling down at a little woman is uncalled for in this situation. Women here need a husband or a boyfriend to to insure equal treatment. Otherwise they treat the women very rough and with disrespect.
But are the actions you perform retribution for their actions or anticpated actions or just plain cussedness on your part because they do not confirm to ways you were brought up with? I have been to somewhere between 35 and 40 countries and I found many things about each that apalled me. But it was never part of my lifes remit to try to change the world to my way of doing things.
We joke on here about some of the things we see but I say to anyone if local ways, customs and traditions are likely to upset you then do not go. Be aware that even in modern cities here things happen that we consider belong to the dark ages.
As for the man who who nearly ran over your wife. There are loud mouth braggards in every place I have ever been too. Do you think the people around you at that time were pleased to hear him loud mouthing a stranger. I doubt it. They would have done the same as you and verbally sorted the man out and as you know the Chinese can fit more loud sentences into the same space we fit a few words.
The biggest problem the foreigners get here are letting small things build up until they burst out then maybe a small thing becomes big problem in their mind.
Willy
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OK Willy I get what your saying.When in China do as the Chinese do.But what do you do when the Chinese are acting like dogs? You and your lovely wife have just exited out of the cab.The cab driver is not stupid.He can see that you are a foreigner.And he knows you come from the land where the streets are paved in gold.So the schmuck doubles or triples the cab fare.Your wife tells the guy what she thinks of him.And tells him she is not going to pay.So your wife and cab driver get into a argument.The cab driver gets mad.And acts like he is going to hit your wife.Now do you hit the schmuck upside his head.Or do you let him hit your wife?
Also I'm wondering do you think the U.K guy was out of line.When he slapped that girl on the ass.After he told her not to be stepping on his feet.Remember this is a Indian girl In Thailand.And just FYI. (Thais do not like to be touched.Thais are very polite people.)So the Indian girl is not following Thai customs.She had ben warned many times by the man.And her Chaperon's.To stop running into people.And to stop shoving people.And yes The Indian girl spoke English.And Yes the UK guy spoke English well enough that I could understand him.
I understand what Gerry did.And I know Gerry doesn't need my approval.But I do approve of what Gerry did.If it had ben me and my wife in that situation.I would of took the guys head off before he got one bad word out of his mouth.I would of taught the load mouth some manners.And like Neil,Arnold, and Gerry, posted the ladies do appreciate it.
Contrary to what most people think.Most of the Chinese people I have met in China.Do have some manners.They just need to be reminded of it now and again.I seen my wife's 8 year old niece get a beating more then once.Because she forgot her manners.I have seen the boy across the alley from my in laws house.Get a beating because he forgot his manners.So the average Chinese person has ben taught some semblance of manners.But when they get grown.And out among there peers they seem to forget them.
P.S I keep saying Indian girl.But it should be young Indian woman.she was somewhere between the age of 18 to 25.The U.K. guy was in his fifties.
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But your just not getting my point Maxx.
So I will leave it that.
Willy
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In England, the tabloid press has coined a phrase, which they sometimes use in their headlines - "Have a go hero". It refers to someone who intervenes when something threatens them, their property or the life of someone else, sometimes a stranger. The people get into the papers for one of two reasons: 1. they were able to appehend the perpetrator, make a citizens arrest and bring him to justice or 2. they got fatally stabbed by the criminal and got sent home in a body bag.
This is not the Wild West, let alone the Wild East, but this kind of incident makes me think twice in England, where I have the benefit of understanding the language and culture, so shouldn't it make me think at least twice when I am in a different culture? Different culture, different customs.
In a Hollywood movie, the crowd of Chinese people might burst into spontaneous applause as the brave foreigner squares up to the rude Chinese person, pushing his way onto the train. "Thank you sir", they would say. "Even though I was in this busy crowd, I saw everything you did, and I completely understand the English words you were shouting at that man. You and your wife were obviously the aggrieved party. You put into words everything that we, with our ingrained inability to stand up to bad manners were unable to say".
When I listen to my wife, she has some sage advice about what it is sensible to do in Chinese cities. It varies from city to city. Shenzhen is different from Guangzhou, from Changsha, from Zhongshan, from her home town. I follow her advice. Sometimes I make a point of putting rubbish in a rubbish bin. Sometimes I make a point of giving my wife a seat on a bus, even though she doesn't want it. In both cases, I am making a point to her, not to anyone else. I'm no hero.
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I got a lecture from Fiona about what I did. I of course, was her hero and protector but she told me how dangerous it was. So I will try to restrain myself if the future when it comes to simple rudeness. However, I pity the man that touches pushes or yells in my wife's face. Its wired into my DNA.
Change of topic. The washing machine is working.! Apparently there is poor wiring on the patio. There is enough juice to run the wash cycle but when the motor goes into high speed the power cuts out. I fed the cord through the window to a different outlet and it is now working fine.
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Willy why leave it at that.You didn't answer the questions.They guy and his wife and the taxi driver.They didn't go looking for this trouble.It was thrust upon them.The U.K guy he was just checking out the monastery.He didn't ask The Rude Indian girl to step on his feet.What would you do.If somebody was going to hit your wife? Are you going to let the guy hit your wife.Then try to make it up to her when you guys get home.Or do you tell her that she deserves it for being a woman?
If your a pacifist Willy. I respect that.It takes a brave man to stand there and watch.While somebody is verbally abusing his wife.Or physically abusing his wife.It is not for me.Where the hell is David E.I'm trying to think of a Famous quote but I can't remember it.And I'm real sure he would recognise it.It goes something like all it takes is a few good people doing the right thing to change the world.And it takes those same good people to do nothing to make the world a sadder place.
Phillip yes I do realize that this is not the wild west.And different customs and culture do exist.And this is not a hollywood movie.This is real life in China.I have seen Chinese guys and girls go at it.Because somebody had bad manners.Sometimes it is just a pushing match.Sometimes there just throwing words.Most of the ones I've seen these people have resorted to blows.So I'm thinking that some Chinese do think about manners.and they will remind there fellow country men to remember them.
I'm in no way suggesting that anybody jump in between 2 Chinese going at it.Or screaming at the desk clerk at your hotel because you think your room isn't right.What I'm suggesting is that you do show some manners.Don't do like some Chinese and some Indians do.Get up give the lady your seat on the bus.Hold the door for the lady.Say excuse me when you run into somebody.Good manners are contages.
Phillip I do live in the wild west.where manners are expected.Because you never know which one of these gun toting physco.Is going to slip a gear and open up on a store full of people.,I used to have a couple of these gun toting physco work for me.The strange thing about these guys is.They had a bible in one hand.And a pistol strapped to there hip.I guess you could say there ying and yang was all screwed up.You know good verses evil.
Gerry glad to here you figured out the problem with the washer.I had that happen to me one time.It took a 100.00 bill and 2 hours to fix the problem.
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when I think of something like this.I remember the words of a great American president Theodore Roosevelt.He said walk softly.And carry a big stick.What it means in layman's terms.It means don't go out of your way looking for trouble.But if trouble comes your way.Be ready to deal with it.
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Ok...here is some help...
Edmund Burke's famous quote is what you may be looking for :
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)
So much of the history of the struggle between good and evil can be explained by Edmund Burke's observation. Time and again those who profess to be good seem to clearly outnumber those who are evil, yet those who are evil seem to prevail far too often. Seldom is it the numbers that determine the outcome, but whether those who claim to be good men are willing to stand up and fight for what they know to be right. There are numerous examples of this sad and awful scenario being played out over and over again
If this is not the one...let me know ;D ;D ;D
I've sorta kept out of this debate, I got close to the wind in "that other Thread" and I dont want to push my luck much further...the Mods have got their beady eye on me I'm sure... ;D ;D ;D
Also, I (as usual) have my own way of deciding where the line is, especially when I visit China !!...If it is just bad manners...I walk away. If it is gross contempt for the person on the receiving end (usually me or my wife)..then stand back, I will let rip. If it gets physical...luckily this has not happened...then I would go all the way !!! I had a number of ocasions to get involved with Chinese Men who have total contempt for women and these guys got short shrift from me....as they would in any other Country, including Perth !!
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Or maybe you can use the famous quote from Pythagorous...although it was in a slightly different context:
"Give me a big enough lever ...and I will move the World" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I had trouble last time while on train in Beijing with the 'conductor' I know I'm small in stature, but if it had not been for Sophie, I was ready to punch the conductors lights out!!!
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I'm sorry to cause such an uproar. Obviously some strong opinions here. Being far away from home probably has something to do with my current attitude toward Chinese men. Just the experience of being here where attitudes and behavior is so different from my own makes me irritable.
Rude is quite different from abusive. For me it is not a racial thing or cultural thing. I would feel the same way if someone in my home town gets abusive to my wife. I would react accordingly if it be in Guangzhou, Hong Kong, Dallas Texas or Sidney. I'm done...
Did I mention the washing machine is working now?
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David yes thank you It was the quote from Edmund Burke.
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As for the Carry a big stick, I don't give these problems a thought. I will be myself and do what is needed at the time. I know what I will do, I did it recently right here. Some man started beating a young girl pushed her to the ground and got on top of her. Got my shoes on and grabbed the bat and ran outside. He was walking away at that point. Turned out it was the girls father? I reported it anyway.
Change of topic. The washing machine is working.! Apparently there is poor wiring on the patio. There is enough juice to run the wash cycle but when the motor goes into high speed the power cuts out. I fed the cord through the window to a different outlet and it is now working fine.
I had two circumstances like this on Miami Beach. One was a wheel chair lift and another a dumb waiter. Both ran somewhat but not perform correctly? (relays were not kicking in). Turned out both were ordered with relays for 220v but unknown to me (at the time) Miami beach only has 208v service so the relays would not work.
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Gerry, you washing machine was broke??? ;D ;D ;D Glad it is fixed.
Sometimes a little controversy gets this site going again. I think David has the right idea, when it is getting to you back off. I really don't think anyone has crossed a line yet though it has got a little heated at times. But I think we all talk to each other respectfully. Isn't that what the most recent posts have been about on this thread? Martin only commented once about getting close to the line. That isn't bad.
I have enjoyed the posts on this and the other thread. :D
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It is the end of the year. Time to reflect on the events of the previous year and then let them go. Time to put away the struggles and disappointments and step into the future. Hopeful that the new year will bring new beginnings, new memories and challenges.
It is almost Chinese new year. The garden is unusually quiet now. What is normally a constant noise is growing silent as the mass exodus is nearly complete. Most everyone that in not born here has gone home to be with family for the next two weeks. For the past week new roosters have been crowing at 6am every morning. I have heard their final sounds as each has been prepared for dinner. There are only two remaining and I am sure they will be served for dinner by weeks end.
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well, finnaly after another 60 day delay the uscis has a response to my inquiry.
The status of this service request is:
The required background checks for this case remain pending. We will render a decision as soon as the background checks are complete. If you do not receive a decision within 180 days of this inquiry, please contact csc-
Still doing background checks after 10 months??. To me it sounds like an excuse for being buried in paperwork.
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I think that government employees keep these delays as long as possible just to see if a relationship outlives their personal sadistic mandates.
I bet they have a score card to notch up their 'successes' against 'those who succomb to the pressure and fall by the wayside.
'nil desperandum' to all in, not just 2012 but every year to come.
Our Governments spend billions of our money in fighting wars we do not belong in and yet they cannot employ a few more staff to do their duty to our own citizens.
Willy
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Another 180 days?, Are they delaying on purpose?, Up to 6 months to do a background check, That is ridiculous, I hope this is resolved soon so you and Fiona can can enjoy the rest of your lives back in America, John.
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I think that government employees keep these delays as long as possible just to see if a relationship outlives their personal sadistic mandates.
I bet they have a score card to notch up their 'successes' against 'those who succomb to the pressure and fall by the wayside.
I recon you got it in one Willy
Cheers
Leeroy
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It took me 6 months for a background check. Currently I am 7 months into an appeal. The problem as I see it is they have quotas and they don't do any more applications than what their quota is.
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Are you calling them, or only talking to them by email?
I found that calling them solves problems much faster sometimes.
well, finnaly after another 60 day delay the uscis has a response to my inquiry.
The status of this service request is:
The required background checks for this case remain pending. We will render a decision as soon as the background checks are complete. If you do not receive a decision within 180 days of this inquiry, please contact csc-
Still doing background checks after 10 months??. To me it sounds like an excuse for being buried in paperwork.
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Tes, I called them on the phone. This was their response via email.
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Tes, I called them on the phone. This was their response via email.
Use the number and information on this page (link), you need to talk with a tier 2 person. The tier 1 people are hardly ever any help at all.
http://www.dhs.gov/files/publications/gc_1305658440339.shtm (http://www.dhs.gov/files/publications/gc_1305658440339.shtm)
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About 9 months and counting
Feb 22, 2011. Sent petition to USCIS
Feb 28, 2011. They cashed the check
March 2 2011. Received receit confirmation letter from USCIS.
April 3, 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
May 10 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
June 13 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
June 30 I received a 5 page document "request for evidence" . They want everythink they could think of to prove a bonafied marriage.
July 26 2011 Mailed respons to RFE to USCIS
August 3rd USCIS acknowledged receipt of my response and began reviewing it. They promised a reply within 60 days.
August 26 Your Case Status: Request for Evidence Response Review
September 23 2011 Your Case Status: Request for Evidence Response Review
October 8 2011. Received request for evidence for prior marriage divorce document. (already provided in previous mailing)
October 10 2011 Your Case Status:Request for Evidence Response Review
On October 24, 2011, we received your response to our request for evidence. This case is being processed at our CALIFORNIA SERVICE CENTER location. If you move while this case is pending, please use our Change of Address online tool to update your case with your new address or call our customer service center at 1-800-375-5283. We will notify you by mail when we make a decision or if we need something from you. You should expect to receive a written decision or written update within 60 days of the date we received your response
Nov. 16 2011 Your Case Status:Request for Evidence Response Review
The status of this service request is:
The required background checks for this case remain pending. We will render a decision as soon as the background checks are complete. If you do not receive a decision within 180 days of this inquiry, please contact csc-ncsc-followup@dhs.gov.
If you have any further questions, please call the National Customer Service Center at 1-800-375-5283.
Please remember: By law, every person who is not a U.S. citizen and who is over the age of 14 must submit Form AR-11 AND notify this office of their change of address, within 10 days from when they move (persons in "A" or "G" nonimmigrant status are exempt from this requirement). To notify this office of a move, visit our website at: www.uscis.gov (http://www.uscis.gov) or call the National Customer Service Center at 1-800-375-5283. The Form AR-11 can be downloaded from our website or you can call the National Customer Service Center at 1-800-375-5283 and we can order one for you. Instructions for filing the Form AR-11, including mailing instructions, are included on the Form.
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services
If you want to talk to a tier 2 person you must call before 6 pm.
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Wait. wait. wait....... I want to go home.
Me in China. http://youtu.be/cru5yOkx3Zc (http://youtu.be/cru5yOkx3Zc)
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Great Video Gerry, I enjoyed watching it.
It makes me look forward to my next visit to China.
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Nicely done! Enjoyed it also.. thanks Gerry!
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I am contacting the office of my US senator from Colorado, Michael Bennet. This is what I have prepared.
Any suggestions before I send it.
I am a US citizen with a Chinese wife. I have filed a i-130 petition to bring her to America. That was over a year ago. Twice the USCIS has asked for evidence to prove a bonafide marriage and I have complied. The evidence that I sent with the initial petition should have been enough to convince anyone that it was a bonafied marriage but they still required more. Each time they ask for addition documentation it cost the applicant another 60 days wait time as your response will be placed at the bottom of the queue. The second request for evidence was to provide a document that they already had but overlooked. Now I am told that they have begun the background checks and not to bother their office for another 6 months. I think this is outrageous. I have already been waiting over a year and they have just now started the background checks. I have been living with my wife in Guangzhou China for the past year and travel back and forth to Colorado to take of of business and pay my taxes. This has been a financial and logistical hardship for me and my family. I have a home along with mortgage and bills in Colorado as well as rent, and other expenses for my family while we are waiting in China.
The case number is WAC119 xxx
Will you please investigate and use whatever influence you have with this government office to expedite my petition so I can return to America with my family?
Feb 22, 2011. Sent petition to USCIS
Feb 28, 2011. They cashed the check
March 2 2011. Received receit confirmation letter from USCIS.
April 3, 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
May 10 2011. Your Case Status: Initial Review
June 30 I received a 5 page document "request for evidence" . They want everything they could think of to prove a bonafied marriage.
July 26 2011 Mailed respons to RFE to USCIS
August 3rd USCIS acknowledged receipt of my response and began reviewing it. They promised a reply within 60 days.
August 26 Your Case Status: Request for Evidence Response Review
September 23 2011 Your Case Status: Request for Evidence Response Review
October 8 2011. Received request for evidence for prior marriage divorce document. (already provided in with the original petition)
October 10 2011 Your Case Status:Request for Evidence Response Review
On October 24, 2011, we received your response to our request for evidence. We will notify you by mail when we make a decision or if we need something from you. You should expect to receive a written decision or written update within 60 days of the date we received your response
No response after 60 days so I called and got this in an email
Nov. 16 2011 Your Case Status:Request for Evidence Response Review
The status of this service request is:
The required background checks for this case remain pending. We will render a decision as soon as the background checks are complete. If you do not receive a decision within 180 days of this inquiry, please contact csc-ncsc-followup@dhs.gov.
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Ger, I see one thing that needs fixing in "travel back and forth to Colorado to take of of business and"
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Thanks Vince.
Anyone think this is risky starting a feud with the USCIS.
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Gerry that is fine.I don't think you sending a letter to your congressmen is going to do any good.But it never hurts to try.Good luck with this.And let us know how it turns out.
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Gerry, I have a Friend that is married to an Indonesian Woman here close by my House. When he send papers for his wifes perm. green card, they lost them somehow and it almost got to the point for her having to leave the Country. He got a Lawyer and send a letter to "His" congressman and "He" got it done for him.
So, I see this as a good/necessary thing for you to do.. it is not a letter of anger. I'd do it.
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The only thing my congressman has been able to do is generate is more paperwork for me to keep. He is even on the homeland security committee. They give him the same answer they have given me several times except a little more polite and respectfully. They don't tell him to go pound sand.
To me it is a waste of time. Needless to say I don't Dr. Broun will be asking me for a campaign contribution this time.
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Here is another route you can try! You can contact your congressman also, but like Shaun said they don't have much influence with USCIS or the Consulates either!
USCIS Update: Case Status Inquiries with the Service Centers
WASHINGTON - U. S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) has issued instructions on making inquiries with the agency's four Service Centers. Customers, community-based organizations and liaison groups should follow this guidance when inquiring about case related issues. This new process standardizes customer service and streamlines processing of customer inquiries at USCIS Service Centers. The step-by-step instructions are as follows:
Step 1: Contact the National Customer Service Center (NCSC) at 1-800-375-5283. The NCSC can assist customers, community-based organizations and liaison groups with case related inquiries. Before calling the NCSC please have available your receipt number, alien registration number, type of application filed and date filed. During your call we recommend that you take note of the following information:
-The name and/or id number of the NCSC representative
-The date and time of the call
-Any service request referral number, if a service referral on a pending case is taken
Step 2: If more than 15 days have passed since you contacted the NCSC and the issue has not been resolved or explained you can email the proper USCIS Service Center to check the status of your case.
-California Service Center: csc-ncsc-followup@dhs.gov
-Vermont Service Center: vsc.ncscfollowup@dhs.gov
-Nebraska Service Center: ncscfollowup.nsc@dhs.gov
-Texas Service Center: tsc.ncscfollowup@dhs.gov
Please note: Emails should be sent to the Service Center that has jurisdiction over your case. The receipt notice will indicate EAC for the Vermont Service Center, SRC for the Texas Service Center, LIN for the Nebraska Service Center, and WAC for the California Service Center.
When contacting the Service Centers by email you will need to provide the information outlined in Step 1. If the NCSC did not issue a service request after your call, please indicate the reason the NCSC representative did not issue the request.
Step 3: In the event you do not receive a response within 21 days of contacting the appropriate Service Center, you may email the USCIS Headquarters Office of Service Center Operations by email at: SCOPSSCATA@dhs.gov. You will receive a response from this email address within ten days.
Good Luck and Best Wishes, Robert
P.S. I do not think starting a feud with USCIS is a good idea either, because they hold all the Aces in the deck. They do not have to answer to anybody nor do they have to prove anything thing beyond a shadow of doubt concerning their opinions or decisions. Whereas you and your wife will have to jump through every hoop they want to place in your path so pissing them off would most likely result in longer delays and greater expenses for you! If you have already done step 1 of the above process, then proceed to step 2 and 3. Using step 3 you should have some explanation about your case within 31 days of completing step 2. Good Luck, Robert
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Robert is correct about pissing USCIS off. Don't do it.
Gerry, you won't like anything they have to say. You won't like your responses. But if you piss them off they could return your file to the bottom of the stack. How would you know if they do it? They are the ones in control. I never call when I am in a bad mood even though I know it will put me in a bad mood once I have finished talking to them.
All three methods are available to you. They are masters at telling you nothing and that is exactly what they will do. Their response will be this; On such and such date we received your information. It is in process and will be processed in the order that it was received. We hope this information will assist you and please do not hesitate to contact us if you have further questions.
Gerry, good luck to you and your wife and please take a healthy dose of patience because you are going to need it. Believe me I know how frustrating it is.
Shaun
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Anyone been to Kunming, Yunnan, China? We need to get away for a while and that is her top choice. I would rather go to Sanya but she wins this round.
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Kunming was only a short stopover for us. It is a huge city. Yunnan is amazing. You'll find plenty of historical sites within a few hour trip by train. Lijiang Old Town was an amazing city to visit. The province is very beautiful and much less polluted than other places. You won't regret your trip. The climate is good for this time of year. Possibly even slightly hot.
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Went to Kunming for a week before Chistmas.
Awesome place, you will love it. Same weather all year round, so you can go anytime.
Could not get everything done in a week, but ShiLin is a must, as is the cable car and chair lift up the mountain.
Markets are great, food is superb, my personal favourite and Yunnan people are the friendliest anywhere.
I was like you, wanted to spend all 10 days in HK, but so happy she decided on Kunming.
Enjoy!!!
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We went to Zhangjiajie instead. Awesome. Lots of walking and climbing. glad to be home. now sorting through the 1500 photos We took.
Got word from senator Bennet's office.
Our office received a response from USCIS in regard to your wife’s petition. According to USCIS the application has been released from the background check unit. We understand the petition is now moving forward to an assigned adjudicating officer for review. You should receive a notice within 60 days from USCIS. If you do not receive any correspondence from USCIS we will be glad to follow up with USCIS on the status of your wife’s petition.
I hope this information is helpful.
Again, thank you for the opportunity to be of assistance.
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Great photos Gerry. Thanks for sharing them. You wife looks adorable. You are a lucky man. Nice photos of you too! Man, this has been one hell of a long thread for you. I remember we both started about the same time.
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Yes, I remember we crossed paths in Shenyang and almost in Guangzhou and Changsha. It seems like another lifetime ago. I am staying hopeful that I will be back in the USA sometime this summer with wife and daughter.
You haven't been so lucky, having a few false starts. But that is better than taking the wrong path and regretting it later. stick to it and you will find her. . Stop buy if you are in Guangzhou. Good luck to you
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Thanks Gerry. I would love to stop by. I may be through again in Early June. I will let you know in advance this time.
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Yes great pictures Gerry. Looks like rugged yet beautiful terrain you encountered. Just wondering if the Hollywood studios will still get Brad Pitt to play your part in the remake of 7 years in Tibet!
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Haha. Seven years !
It was rugged but the paths are well maintained. We never strayed far from the paved walkways and hand rails. It was just like everyplace else in China. TOO MANY PEOPLE.
I was looking at some of the photos and now I believe the whole park is FAKE. Manufactured in a factory and placed here to extract more tourist dollars. ( They must spend all that american money on something. Why not something that will return their investment.)
The reason I mention this is that if you look close at some of the mountains in my photos (you must enlarge them) you will see in a couple of instances a faint logo printed on the side of the mountain. It made me laugh to think about a fake mountain the size of the empire state building. I figured it out and included it here. anyone else figured it out?
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Not unlike the Hollywood sign. I think it's pretty hard to build a fake park. They probably just cement over the sides of cliffs to stop rocks from falling and killing tourists - it's bad business. They try to make it look authentic is all.
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The reason I mention this is that if you look close at some of the mountains in my photos (you must enlarge them) you will see in a couple of instances a faint logo printed on the side of the mountain. It made me laugh to think about a fake mountain the size of the empire state building. I figured it out and included it here. anyone else figured it out?
OMG!! I can not believe my eyes-I see it Gerry ...does it really say "Made in the U.S.A.?" ;D
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I am up at 3:45 Am this morning and cant sleep. So I went to the USCIS website just for a quick check on her status.
GUESS WHAT I FOUND
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Congrats Pineau,
Now you can take the helm and speed things up! ;)
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Congrats Gerry , it has been a long road , regards Sujuan and Robert .
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congratulations to you both, i can imagine how you felt when you first looked at the email , john
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great news Gerry. I am new here but have followed your story with much interest. I really empathise with what you have been through, and I sure hope it is going to be easier for me, dealing with NZ immigration when I get to that stage.
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Very happy for you both Gerry-bet you had to look twice before it set in ??? ;D sometimes not being able to sleep is a good thing
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Yes I read it twice just to be sure of what I thought it said. Then I read it again out loud and gave her the thumbs up. She threw her arm around me so tight she nearly chocked me. I know the neighbors heard her squealing and laughing and crying. Lord know what they were thinking.
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Congratulations Gerry. One step closer.
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re: James & Gerry & ALL!
My wife was successful Dec22. Coincidentally, my birthday.
Guangzhou is a madhouse of activity culminating with all the efforts & planning, good & bad. Anyway, I liked the activity.
It was much the same as cackling chickens at feed time with the hundreds of women gathered on the consulate steps as
they waited their fateful moment.
I will tell you what my personal observation is. One of the guys I/ we all got to know, is 82 years old. Successful. His wife is in
her mid- 40's. Our immediate groups consensus was no way, no how. We were wrong...all of us.
My wife was asked 2 or 3 questions. After all the frustration of the preparation, it boiled down to just a few simple questions. I was
thinking the interviewer, a male, must have seen my passport birthday. Good present. In retrospect, we all got to talking about the
interviews. Maybe it was Christmas a few days early. All the women were prompted just a few easy questions. The only hickup was
one woman from Shanghai, a University professor a few years prior. Her's was the 'blue' slip. But, the interviewer was nice enough
to tell her that there were no problems. It was just her prior status as a physics professor they only wanted a few questions answered.
I think the immigration issue is one of accuracy. Just follow the bouncing ball, satisfy all documentation, no omissions, add all extra information
if you have, but first & foremost, be accurate!
The immigration process is easy as presented. There are the documents that must be presented. We realize that necessity, for her as well as for you.
But the thing is the Guangzhou interview is as easy as 1, 2, 3. There is no tripping up the unwary applicant, unless something is terribly wrong.
I just want to add my 2- cents worth of thought. I hope all the new immigration efforts to be as easy as I have just written.
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Good News Gerry. But thats another long termer leaving China now.
Willy
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Its about time.
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In England, the tabloid press has coined a phrase, which they sometimes use in their headlines - "Have a go hero". It refers to someone who intervenes when something threatens them, their property or the life of someone else, sometimes a stranger. The people get into the papers for one of two reasons: 1. they were able to appehend the perpetrator, make a citizens arrest and bring him to justice or 2. they got fatally stabbed by the criminal and got sent home in a body bag.
This is not the Wild West, let alone the Wild East, but this kind of incident makes me think twice in England, where I have the benefit of understanding the language and culture, so shouldn't it make me think at least twice when I am in a different culture? Different culture, different customs.
In a Hollywood movie, the crowd of Chinese people might burst into spontaneous applause as the brave foreigner squares up to the rude Chinese person, pushing his way onto the train. "Thank you sir", they would say. "Even though I was in this busy crowd, I saw everything you did, and I completely understand the English words you were shouting at that man. You and your wife were obviously the aggrieved party. You put into words everything that we, with our ingrained inability to stand up to bad manners were unable to say".
When I listen to my wife, she has some sage advice about what it is sensible to do in Chinese cities. It varies from city to city. Shenzhen is different from Guangzhou, from Changsha, from Zhongshan, from her home town. I follow her advice. Sometimes I make a point of putting rubbish in a rubbish bin. Sometimes I make a point of giving my wife a seat on a bus, even though she doesn't want it. In both cases, I am making a point to her, not to anyone else. I'm no hero.
Sorry to bring this up again but I just had to. On our recent trip to Zhangjiajie we were taking a bus down a twisted unpaved dirt road along the mountains. The road was just wide enough for one vehicle and the young driver was driving like a maniac. We were passing when there was no room to pass and no clear view of oncoming traffic. It was a hair raising experience. I was on the edge of my seat and white knuckles holding onto the seat in front of me. Everyone was quiet and very tense. Finally I had enough and from the back of the bus I stood up whistled (the one the you can hear for about a mile) then shouted at the top of my voice. " slow this fucking bus down" The bus slowed and we proceeded safely to the little town where we would spend our first night. I dont know if anyone there understood "slow this fucking bus down" but as my wife and I got off the bus I got several pats on the shoulder a few thumbs up and a couple of applause. I don't know, was I rude?
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No Gerry, I do not think you was rude, Just concerned for the safety of your wife and yourself, From what you said about the pats on the back, I think others were concerned too, Good for you, John.
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Better that you did what you did and asking later if you were being rude, than having the misfortune in saying here, "I wished that I had said something", or worse yet - never hearing from you again.
I can understand being in a different land and catering to local customs as it shows a sign of respect. I also understand to try not being ethnocentric in forming opinions, but History is written by those who do not like the status quo and choice to do something about it. Most of us here are not out to change the world but to share in what the world has to offer. Sometimes the World rubs you raw and it is only natural to bark back. Thanks for sharing your story Gerry as Old age and life itself - should burn and rage at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Oh.... and what will become of that washing machine :o
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Gerry I don't see a problem with what you did.I did the same thing on a private bus to Lushan.The bus driver was making everybody sick.I stood up told him to slow down.He did.So no problem.
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But then people pay out lots of money to get the same thrill from theme parks.
Or maybe what to shouted out sound like "I will give you all a 100 yuan when we arrive' Rude, inconsiderate, hero, whatever the main thing is it helped keep you alive.
Brave you to start with going on such a bus ride, giving all the news on the TV over the past three years about deaths of bus passengers after abus comes of mountain road or a bridge.
Buses, mountain road are definate no no's for me. As my good Cantonese friend from Hong Kong says, 'You have to be more Chinese than me (him) to travel that way'.
Willy
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A no-brainer, Gerry. You picked your battle and it was a good battle to pick. I doubt anyone would have objected to your outburst. It is unlikely anyone would have thought " I like the fact that the driver is driving like a maniac, putting our lives in danger." Well done. You expressed what most if not all the passengers were thinking.
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In reference to the other thread I started PHOTO SOFTWARE. I wanted to move my comments back over to this thread and not clutter a technical discussion with a tribute to good looking women. SO the other thread is about using a Photoshop filter to remove dust and scratches. go see it if your interested.
Fiona's photos http://niwot.net/httpdocs/fionaphotos/ (http://niwot.net/httpdocs/fionaphotos/)
I dont want to say this too much for fear of retaliation. She looks good but of course she is really not as gorgeous as the photos. Amazing what a good photographer and 2 hours of makeup can achieve...
Honestly I never saw any of these photos or her other " posed " photos before we met. When I first met her she was just a plain Jane dressed in baggy bluejeans and wearing her old worn out baseball cap. She didn't look all that great to me. But looks are not what attracted me to her. Her walk, the bounce in her step, her silly laugh, a smile that is almost as broad as her face and big brown eyes. After three days or goofing around Guangzhou with her I knew I had found someone special.
She is hard headed, determined, very very independent and borderline crazy. She is a practical joker and loves to tease. At first her constant playing annoyed me. But I got used to it and found that she can be serious when needed. She just doesn't feel the need very often. She is just a whole hell of a lot of fun.
And when I want to dress up and go out, she dresses up pretty good. She can be absolutely stunning sometimes. If you have seen some of her better photos, imagine her, dressed up and in her jewelry. That pretty face sitting across from you on the subway, making silly faces, rolling her eyes and holding her nose like the guy next to her just farted. what a combination of crazy fun and elegance. And what amazes me more is she said she never acted like this before meeting me. She just feels relaxed around me and is not afraid to be silly.
I have always be a serious man. Professional manager and all. She found the kid in me. I am ten years younger because of her. I just hope it last.
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Gerry, I agree with you about the "plain Jane" syndrome, When I met MinYing I thought the same thing, Nowhere as near as attractive as her "photo shopped" photos from chnlove but I think most of us here have experienced this, Anyway, MinYing also has the her crazy times and when she dresses up she looks fantastic, Before we met, Her friends tell me that she had no self pride but now she looks after herself always and I am proud to have her hanging off my arm always, John.
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Hot diggity dog ! The machine is moving again.
We just got two email from the NVC. Its time to fill out the immigration application and the AOS. She has her GUZ number finally!
They are suggesting we use E-mail for correspondence as regular mail is slow and unreliable.
Now I am busy again.
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Hot diggity dog ! The machine is moving again.
Well quick and get some OIL and keep it moving!
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Lately I have been bored out of my skull. I mean how many parks, hot-spas and temples can you visit before they all seem the same. I think I have been down to the used electronics district a billion times and I am starting accumulate a lot of junk (and spend a lot of money). I have made a lot of friends here but they are at work all week so I spend a lot of my day wasting time surfing the web and chatting online. Really, I am so happy to get things rolling again. I love being busy.
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Lately I have been bored out of my skull. I mean how many parks, hot-spas and temples can you visit before they all seem the same. I think I have been down to the used electronics district a billion times and I am starting accumulate a lot of junk (and spend a lot of money). I have made a lot of friends here but they are at work all week so I spend a lot of my day wasting time surfing the web and chatting online. Really, I am so happy to get things rolling again. I love being busy.
Maybe you should take a bus or train ride and get out of the city for a day. Come to the clean air of Zhongshan. I would do that journey in reverse but I have a leg that is not co-operating with my need to walk at the moment.
Willy
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https://ceac.state.gov/CTRAC/invoice/signon.aspx (https://ceac.state.gov/CTRAC/invoice/signon.aspx)
Paid my AOS fee and got this with the receipt. Maybe it will be helpful to the next guy.
A payment status of IN PROCESS means your payment is still being processed. A
payment status other than PAID indicates that the Department of State has not
received your payment. If you receive a notice that your case has entered
termination do not attempt to pay any fees. You must contact the NVC
immediately to resume processing of your petition. NVC contact information can be
found at travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/info/info_3177.html.
Next Steps
1. When the IV fee payment status is PAID, each applicant must submit an
Application for Immigrant Visa and Alien Registration. If your case was
initiated after October 4, 2010 and your case number begins with AMM, ATH,
BGH, LMA, MEP, or MTL you must submit your visa application form online.
Otherwise you must submit the paper version of the form.
l To submit your application form online, click DS-260 then log in to the
Consular Electronic Applications Center and follow the instructions displayed.
l To submit the paper version click DS-230 and follow the instructions displayed.
2. To complete your Immigrant Visa application you must also submit civil
documents. Go to www.ImmigrantVisas.state.gov (http://www.ImmigrantVisas.state.gov) and click Communicating with
the NVC to learn about document submission requirements and options for your
case.
3. If you are required to submit physical documents, you must include a barcoded
cover sheet to identify the documents as belonging to your case.
l If you received an Instruction Packet from the National Visa Center (NVC), it
contains a cover sheet which may be photocopied.
l If you need a new cover sheet, print one now by clicking the Print Document
Cover Sheet button on the IV Fee Payment Receipt page.
l If you cannot print a cover sheet now, use the Email Document Cover Sheet
button to send an electronic copy to an email address where it can be printed
later.
4. The next steps concerning AOS fee payments are found on the AOS fee
payment receipt.
Picking up speed.
I requested electronic processing and got a yes. I scanned and emailed the choice of agent about an hour ago and already got the reply.
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things are gaining momentum. ppaid the AOS fee and just got the AOS forms to fill out. i wont jinx it by declairing any success but all looks good.
another bad turn though. i landed in the hospital again. a matching bleeding blood vesssel in mmy stomach. i shoul be hom wednesday.
if you value your stomach lining stay away from peppers. hotsause. wassabbi. and anything fried in china. .seriously cook your own food.
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Sorry to hear that Gerry, I hope that is the end of your problems. What happens next with your paperwork? Is it soon back to USA?
Steve
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whar i understand is after i qualify on the AOS then ..she fills out ain application to immmigrate. then she gets scheduled for an interview. we will book tickets for the USA asap after she gets her vizsa. we are leaving her daughter here for a while and finish herpaperwork in the usa. sofrry for the typos but i am inn a hospital bed trying to type with one finger.
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my guess is we will in the mountains of colorado about mid August. but it is really hard to predict. anythig can happej between now and then. waiting is frustrating but i have waited this long another month is not so important. for now i need to escape this torture chamber and get home so i can finish the AOS.
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Gerry,
Sorry to hear you are in the hospital. You need a cast iron stomach for that kind of food. I am happy to hear that everything else is progressing well.
Good Luck, Shaun
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Shaun. i did have a cast iron stomach. back home i can eat most anything. peppers and all kinds of food.that all changed after being here for a while.this is my third trip tp the hospital to repair busted anurisms. Fiona got to watch the proceedure on camera.she said i had two veins/arteries that were spewin each heart beat and afterward they foun an ulcer to boot. dont take for granted your abilities to eat spicy things back home. there ias somethin else in the food and water than just spice.
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Then it sounds like you're having too much of a good thing.
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Ok. I escaped. I just go home about 30 minutes ago and I am setting at the computer looking at the letter I received from the NVC and all the forms that they requested.
The asked me in the same email to download and complete DS-230 Application for Immigrant Visa Application.
AND the I-864 Affidavit of support . So i am guessing that I can send them both back to the NVC at the same time if I feel confident that the AOS is going to be approved. Do you think this is a reasonable guess?
I went to download the I-864 and found that there are three version that you can use depending on certain conditions about the sponsor-immigrant- and how many are coming at the same time.
Has anyone ever used the I-864EZ form before?
to use it all three of the following are true:
You filed a Form I-130 petition, for your relative.
There is only one applicant on the Form I-130 petition, and
All your qualifying income comes from a salary or pension and shows on one or more W-2 Forms that you receive
Here are my conditions.
Fiona's daughter is not an applicant ,only Fiona will be coming to the USA (her daughter will follow her in a few more months)
I make more than enough to meet the income requirements from my pension alone BUT... the taxable income on my federal return is less than zero because I claim a depreciation loss on my rental property.
Any opinions on using the 864 or the 864 EZ?
OK I JUST GOT AN ANSWER FROM MY COUSIN who worked at the NVC a few years back. Her advice is don't risk the EZ form. The EZ form is not that much EZier than the long form. Just go the long form and supply as much information about your income as you possibly can. If you mess up on the EZ and dont supply enough information it could set you back a week or two.
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Glad you're back home.
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I am busy, busy ,busy, getting my AOS finished and finishing up DS230. Her are a couple of pointers for problems you may run into.
Beg them to let you use Electronic filing. It is so much easier. ( if all your documents are available or can be scanned).
Dont bother zipping your multiple PDF files into a zip. PDFs must be very compressed already because the zip file was larger that the sum of the individual files.
you may run into size limit with your email client.
I use hotmail and discovered this. You can send up to 200 attachments up to 50 MB each (9.8 GB total) per email.
Large files and photos will be uploaded to SkyDrive so recipients are not restricted by their email service's size limits.
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Well it never ends. I am getting really tired of this.
I may be looking for a retirement home here.
My AOS got rejected.
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Gee Gerry I'm really sorry to hear that. Did they tell you why?
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That's really shitty Gerry. I do not ever think I will understand the policies of the USA. God you have been living here for such a long time. Do they think it is still not a genuine match or what? I think that maybe in the USA, there is a hidden undercurrent against Chinese Immigrants, thats if they are not super rich.
At least in the UK my wife could get a visitors visa and live in the UK for up to 6 months at a time (which would be too long for me anyway) without any problems. Last one was issued in less than a week for that purpose. But I do not think I could cope with the stress of going through a 'permanent leave to remain' application.
You are well acclimatised to China now and I have visited many other countries that I would not want to retire to. So if it comes to that take it.
Willy
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Sorry to hear that Gerry. This has got to be frustrating!
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I'm sorry to hear that Gerry.What reason did they give.
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No reason given yet but I suspect my income listed on my Federal tax return.
My income tallied with the depreciation expense I claim on my rental property turns out to be a negative number. The result is a net loss on my federal return. In years past this has helped me tremendously in lowering my taxes. Now it is killing me because I cant show any positive income. There money is there- in my pocket- but on paper is shows that it was all spent on depreciation of my rental property.
All this is speculation so I will just wait before trying a new angle.
About retiring here. If I go home and liquidate everything and come back to China I could live like a king but ... the medical treatment, the hospitals, the food and the hygiene, the fake grocery products that will kill you and the scams...I DONT LIKE IT HERE. I would rather live in Mexico. A quick trip across the border to civilization.
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Gerry I think your gonna need a immigration attorneys.I Just posted the name and number of a real good immigration attorney On Skip's thread.I think I would give them a call.And see if they can't help you out.The first consultation is free.Or you mite resubmit your application with a cosponser.If it is money immagration is worried about.A cosponser would fix the problem.
Allen Lolly 1-888-483-0311. This is the attorneys I used.And Jimmy in California used.After his Chinese lawyer screwed his application up.
Gerry Do you think that.Or do you suspect that.Maybe immigration is messing with you.Because you have already sponsored one Chinese national.And it didn't work out.The reason I'm asking is because I have a friend who lives in China.And she is married to a American.Back In the mid 80s her husband married a couple of different French girls and brought them to the states.After a couple of years he divorced them.Now he says that immigration won't Evan let him submit a application.So I'm kind of wondering if immigration is pulling your chain.Or my friend's husband is just full of it.
Gerry I know how you feel about Colo.I'm in love with the place to.But if this doesn't work out with immigration.Have you got a back up plan.I have heard Singapore is a nice place to live.I have heard that Thailand is nice.Your money will go allot further in Thailand.Then it does in China.These are just 2 countries that your wife doesn't need a visa to live in.And they still except immigrants.So you mite look at going this route.If your looking for something with more American flare you mite look into.Guam,Siapan, or San Jon.They are all American territories kinda of close to China.With allot less strict immagration policy's.I would defiantly talk to a attorney before I made any more decisions.
Good luck
Maxx
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Gerry, just how are you finding so many scams? Is it looking for Western food?
Living in China is not for everyone I admit but I would rather risk an upset stomach here than a bullet in Mexico. Or even L.A come to that!
China may look nice in small doses but is not to everyone's taste for long term living. For me it is the one place I am happy in. I have lived in the back streets of Lagos, Nigeria - now that is a scarey and dangerous place. The slums of Mumbai were better but I must admit that I have not tried the back streets of Rio De Jiandero.
Maybe it is just this latest setback that has caused your current loss of faith.
But it is a lesson for all starting on the process of seeking a Chinese Wife. It is not as easy and simple as one thinks it may be. Besides the problems with the immigration process that continually look to get harder you have to learn to live apart or spend long periods of time living somewhere which may not be your first choice.
Willy
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Willy, the scams are everywhere. I am so used to them now that being skeptical in every transaction has become second nature to me.
There is prepared meat that should be seasoned beef but turns out to be pork. The meats are injected with water to make them weigh more. There is additives in milk to increase the volume but are actually lethal. Do you remember the melamine in the milk that killed so many babies? Well justice has been served. since the dairy farmers supplied the volume of the milk and the factory only supplied small amounts of the chemicals, the culprits behind the scam paid a small fine. The dairy farmers went to jail. After all it wasn't that many babies that died. And then there is that second hand cooking oil. The recycled stuff that is sold at the back door of large restaurants by the kitchen staff. Or it is dipped from the sewers behind the restaurants, and sold to unscrupulous oil recycles who don't care where it comes from. And the fake eggs. Last month I saw a company get busted for selling fake salt (very nicely packaged industrial salt packaged as regular iodized cooking salt) it killed several people before they tracked down the source. There is not a week goes by that the government is in some brand name supermarket pulling some brand named product off the shelves because it is either fake or contaminated with something deadly.
I have been swindled so many times in the market and retail shops that I don't trust anyone. Not a cute little girl with rosy cheeks and pigtails, a monk, priest, not even a Mother Teresa lookalike! The fakes are good fakes. The packaging is identical right down to the hologram logo. But they are in fact, fakes or factory seconds that were retrieved from the dumpster behind the factory. I have many times purchased something, and the merchant on the pretense of getting me a box or bag to carry it in will turn away from me obscuring my view and swapping out the item I just tested and OK-ed for either an inferior or broken item. I have gotten to the point that when they hand it back to me, I will remove it from the package and inspect it to make sure it is the one I paid for. Some are offended but I don't care. If the don't try to cheat me they just won a repeat customer otherwise they get a good scolding and a scene in front of their shop. It takes the enjoyment out of shopping to have to watch the merchant every second to make sure you are getting what you just purchased.
Maybe you have gotten used to it or after being here so long you have a trusted network of retailers where yo do most of your shopping and don't nee to be worried about getting cheated.
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Gerry if you show less income than 25% over the poverty level then yes they would deny the application. That would be $20,123.00 a year for you and your wife. If you had someone that would be willing to be a sponsor that could help if your income filing is less than that.
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I am with Willy...I would take China over Mexico anytime. But then again, it seems to be open season on Canadians down in Mexico.
Your description of going shopping is rather depressing. I hope you can get your immigration fixed so you can return to the USA...or maybe you can take a holiday.
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Yes Gerry I forgot you speak with an north American accent. I can understand what you say/ But with my pure English English then they know I have no money anyway so do not waste their time. ;D ;D
There again we do not buy very much packaged food. We basically live on fresh items from the nearby farm shop. Shopping is done daily.
The only meat meat we have is pork which the night before was happy as a pig in sh-t but today is an item in the butchers slab.. I must admit I have moved my wife away from buying from the butcher with the heavily blood stained plywood cutting board to one with a good stone slab.
The fish is straight from the aquarium and into the pan.
If you want to buy pseudo western food then you are not going to get quality. Not many Chinese would buy these items so they are pretty safe with turning in poor quality. But let them try selling dodgy basic foods to a Chinese woman with any age behind her.
Our eggs come direct from her sisters mini farm. Baby milk is not for me but the bullet in the head sorted out the main leaders in that matter which occurred just as I first arrived here.
Any Chinese housewife knows what is good and what is bad and I know it is often the price that attracts some to buy the lesser items but with the money we put into the household coiffers there should be no reason for our women to go for the cheaper versions.
I only ever shop on my own for small items at my trusted computer shop, I would not think of going to buy any other items without a Chinese Back Up.
Willy
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After 18 months my patience is wearing very thin. Maybe I do need a break. Where is there a nice relaxing place that will let a Chinese woman have a holiday VISA?
But if I take a break this mess will be waiting for me when I get back.
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I would say Thailand.
A few go from here to there.
At least when you get back it may not seem quite so bad. Plus it will give you a chance to look at Thailand as a possible alternate.
Willy
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Gerry
Sorry about the problems, I cant offer any advice....we have a different Immigration system, but we have similar constraints vis-a-vis income. I guess the Beaurocrats can only see that you have a nett negative income...they dont care how it is made up of positive cash-flow minus negative asset gearing !!!
I guess a Lawyer is your best next bet.
Thailand is OK for Chinese Tourists, they dont need a visa, can get "visa-on-arrival" at the airport. I recommend Phuket as a lovely place to go (dont be put off by that Aussie Tourist who was stabbed to death last week...it has never happened before and likely will not happen again).
Do you do all your own shopping ?...I know when I was in China (severaltimes) I would not dream of doing it, I left it all to Ming and I think it would be hard to cheat her, and most Chinese women for that matter. But there again, we never shopped for Western foods, I stuck with Chinese food for the duration. Maybe as a "shopping Lao wei" you are a prime target ???
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Thailand was great. I was there for two weeks last year. But being part of a tour group we were on the go from dawn to dusk to make sure we saw everything. It was fun but not very relaxing.
I want to go to a beach somewhere and sit under an umbrella, listen to the waves and stare at the blue water through the gaps between my toes.
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I want to go to a beach somewhere and sit under an umbrella, listen to the waves and stare at the blue water through the gaps between my toes.
Don't forget the Corona's and some Lime!
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Gerry -We need to talk but I do not want to do it in the open forum-Please PM me at your convenience
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Phucket is on a island it is nothing but sand and water.Pattaya sets on the beach.It is more then a little on the sleazy side.Quinqdao,Shenzhen,Hong Kong,Zhongshan,Zhuhai,Are all coastel cities in China.They all have beaches.Handan in the south of China.Is a island.
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Phucket is on a island it is nothing but sand and water.Pattaya sets on the beach.It is more then a little on the sleazy side.Quinqdao,Shenzhen,Hong Kong,Zhongshan,Zhuhai,Are all coastel cities in China.They all have beaches.Handan in the south of China.Is a island.
Yes Maxx....just the right place to sit on a beach under an umbrella and just relax. ;D ;D
Keep away from Pattaya...all tourists, go a bit North and stay at Laguna, very quiet, very pretty and....very relaxing !!!!
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I will pick one of those places and disappear for a while.
I am going to lay low and keep quiet on the forum until I get a VISA in hand . If I dont I am going to say something I will regret.
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I know how frustrating it is Gerry. A denial is very demoralizing. I've spent the better part of the last 2 months reassuring my wife that I haven't given up.
I think you're on the right track, as far as fixing what went wrong with immigration. You're blessed to have a wonderful wife and the ability to be with her through this. I'd trade you in a heartbeat. I think a holiday is exactly what you need. You'll come back more focused.
Good luck to both of you.
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I will pick one of those places and disappear for a while.
I am going to lay low and keep quiet on the forum until I get a VISA in hand or throw in the towel. If I dont I am going to say something I will regret.
Good Idea Gerry.
I would also remove the 'throw in the towel' bit. You know immigration people of all countries get access to this and other forums. You do not want to give them more ammo.
Willy
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Scanning PDF documents.
I have been having fits getting all the scanned documents to fit into one email to send to the NVC. (if you send the docs in more than one email there is a high probability that the second email will get lost )
I discovered that my hp scanner and the Epson that my son is using do not do a very good job of compression when preparing a pdf for email. The default settings are some trade-off between size and quality. If your rich just purchase ADOBE ACROBAT X PRO. If you not rich then wait until you have all the documents scanned then download a free copy. You can use it fully functional for 30 days. It has a lot of functions like delete pages, and insert pages among others.
It takes a bit of brain power to get it setup the way you want but add <Document Processing> to the tools menu and add <optimized scanned PDF documents> to the document processing menu. Using the default setting and the optimize feature I was able to reduce some 5-6 meg files down to 500k. The quality was just slightly reduced.
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With all that paper I think you owe the World at least two new trees. ;D
Is that another 60 days wait or is it longer.
Willy
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20 days if i got it right this time. And that is a big if because the corrective action instructions were written for a paper filing not an electronic-email filing. It everything is right then they will notify the consulate in GZ and they will set up an appointment within 30 days. So about 50 days best case.
I make no predictions though. Last time I thought the train was picking up speed it turned into a disaster overnight. I will just sit and wait.
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OH... you know those boom boxes you see out in front of a lot of stores (chained to the door). The ones that will shake your teeth out if you walk in front of them. Well....I got one! Super cool small size but really heavy. It has handles and rollers on it like a suitcase. 1.21 gigawatts of power, (some Americans will know what that means ) , equalizer, two microphone jacks, rca jacks for your stereo, two slots for SD cards or thumb drive to play mp3 or wav files.
Battery power(internal 2 hour battery) or AC 240v ( a minor problem) with 20 amp battery charger. This thing is going to kick ass at back yard BBQ when I get it home.
I have been shopping for one for months but they were over 150 USD at quantity of 1. well I got this one for 57 USD one off price. I will need to build a 110-220 converter when I get home for about 20 bucks or buy one here for about 5.
BTW 1.21 gigawatts of Chinese power is really only 500 watts or USA power but still more than enough to fill my back yard and annoy the neighbors.
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That should be good. But why save it for those back home!! ;D ;D
My music and recording system here has been augmented by a Weige Digital Audio System and I have 6 Speakers from it all over the room with the full Woofer wOOx.
When that is cranked up with 'Land Of Hope And Glory' the whole building shakes.
How do you get on with the electrics here with American products. In the UK the system is much the same as here, (we probably brought it to China years ago) but I know in UK American often would plug in things like their own hairdryers and it does not take long for them to overheat and burn up due to the increase in power supply.
The stuff I shipped over from the UK works ok here.
Willy
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I don't bring anything from the USA unless it is clearly marked 110- 220v. Most small electronics with modern switcher supplies will work here . Things like Ipads, cellphones , laptops will go just about anywhere.
But the old stuff or high power stuff you need to leave at home. If you bring a hair dryer then turn it down to low or it will behave like a hovercraft before it catches fire and scorches all the hair off your skull.
There was an older model of this power speaker that had a universal power supply but it was rated 75 watts less than this one so I decided to get this one and get a power converter when I get it back to the USA.
This is an techno/electronics paradise in Guangzhou. If I retired here like you did, I would have all the toys too. But not knowing when I am going back home I am reluctant to make the investment and then give it up a few months later. I am seriously considering getting a 40 ft cargo container and just ship everything we own back home. the container shipped to Los Angeles is 1,400 USD and another 250 to get it to Colorado. It is sure tempting knowing I could never locate some of these toys back in the states. When the time gets close I will take my shopping list and get everything I always wanted but was too cheap to buy.
As for this powered speaker. I have it cranked up on the patio (7th floor). The whole neighborhood garden is grooving to beach boys and Chuck Berry.
She's real fine, my 409, ...my 409. Johnny be good tonight...
As soon as I can find it I am going to download the theme to top gun and see if I can create a panic simulated Air strike. ha ha
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Gerry
You can also use Bluebeam.com to convert documents so they can be sent as a PDF file. You also get to use it for 30 days before having to buy anything so if Adobe runs out you can go onto this one.
As for your choice of music I prefer the classical genre. When I was a teenage in the 50's and early 60's Chick Berry was the favourite music the groups we now call gay. But in them days they were just called homosexuals or similar!! But Beach Boys were OK. But them I remember seeing The Beatles at a dance hall in London and the Rolling Stones playing a pub every week in Richmond SW London. Both before they became the icons they now are.
Willy
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a little inspiration
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First time ever.
I am walking along the side walk taking the kid to school and I am approached by 2 policemen (one was a lady) and another man who was assigned as their translator.
So they want to see my passport, I had to tell them where I live etc. After two years I finally get caught in the dragnet. Luckily I had my passport with VISA and recent exit-reentry stamp. One thing that I did not have was the police registration document. I told them it was at home and I was told to fold it up and place it in the rear of my passport.
So no big deal if your VISA is current and you have all your documentation with you. Fiona said that if I did not have my passport that they would take me to jail and I would stay there until she got it and brought it to them. She also said they frequently do these checks in low rent districts to try to catch people who have expired VISAs. They deport quit a few blacks from the drug ghettos.
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Very interesting Gery. It just goes to show just how careful you have to be. I never carry my passport but have a copy of it plus I always carry my temporary residence permit. If I get a pull then being held at a police station will be no problem -unless they insist on feeding me!!!!
I know Guangzhou is a favourite place for them to work in this manner as they do in Shenzhen.
I wonder if, when I get my permanent permit I will still need my passport (permanent but only valid for 5 years!!!)
Willy
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A similar thing happened to me in Beijing. It was February when we were there and the PRC Governement had their meetings on. I do not know if this is yearly or not. Anyway there was more police around than usual checking all Westerners passports and like Willy I would only carry a printed out enlarged copy of my passport. This was not accepted by the police so I was directed to go back to the hotel and bring my passport with me. Something to keep in mind if you in Beijing whilst these Governement meetings are on. Also Tianamen Square will be a no access zone during this period as well as they park all of the Government buses and other transport on the square at this time. But it will open again during the evening after the meetings so do The Forbidden City first and then go across for a look.
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Really?
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We just got the final letter from the embassy we have been waiting for for so long.
We will be home for Christmas.
Now we can break in that new house I bought last year that's not been lived in.
And the sneak attack at mom's house at Christmas. I am not going to tell her we are coming. We will just show up and introduce Fiona to the rest of the family.
Gosh,, big sigh.
I am going to try to write a summary of my journey but it wont be coming anytime soon.
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Fantastic news Jerry, wish you and Fiona a happy life together, What a relief you must be feeling, Good luck with the sneak attack on mums house. MinYing and John.
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That is terrific news Jerry , you finally wore them down into submission , now you can enjoy Christmas , regards Sujuan and Robert .
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Congratulations Gerry and Fiona on the good news , it as been a long time coming
enjoy your life together Cherish each other and each day together , wow home for Christmas :) :)
regards joey and Sophia
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Congratulations to you and your wife! :)
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I won't say it was my man to man chat with Barek after I got him re elected that did it. But maybe. 8)
Anyway I am pleased to hear that all has come well. You have had quite a few ups and downs in recent years. But it is all up from now on.
Willy
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Congratulations Gerry.Best wishes for you and Fiona.
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Gerry, way to give a better meaning to the 12 days of Christmas.
I rate this news a 10 as you must feel like a Lord a Leaping.
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Great to hear Gerry!!!! :) :) :)
Your plan on the Christmas surprise, I would even take a step further. How about having Fiona placed into a huge box (wrapped) and have it delivered by someone you know and trust to your Mom's house that day as a Gift for her (her new daughter in-law).
One of my Cousin (male) boxed himself at X-mas and came to his Girlfriend to propose for marriage to her. The most romantic thing I ever saw.
Anyway, enjoy your new less stressful Life now and your new house in-waiting!
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I read about a Chinese guy that did that. The package got delivered to the wrong address, and he damn near died.
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I read about a Chinese guy that did that. The package got delivered to the wrong address, and he damn near died.
hahaha.... thats why you personally have to make sure who is your best friend, you can trust with this fragile package... or I'd kill him!
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Make sure the friends not David Copperfield because you would not know what comes out of the box. ;D
Willy
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congrats to you both gerry, pleased to read the news
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Great news Gerry. I'm happy for the both of you.
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Gerry..
You might say that this is the beginning of the road now.....
Many congrats
David
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Congratulations Gerry, to you and Fiona. I hope everything goes better from now on - keep us posted.
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Well, it certainly has been a long journey for you Jerry. I am glad you will be home for Christmas. As David said, this will be the beginning of a new road. All the best
Peter
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David E is right Gerry.
I remember your post first post on this thread more than two years ago. You finished it and said. "I am going to stay in Guangzhou and pursue the woman I came here to meet." You certainly kept your word.
I know I lambasted you and when you first came on with your proposals in other quarters Since then you have certainly proved to me and everyone just what sort of person you really are. You may consider yourself lucky to have found someone like Fiona but she is also lucky to have found you. Together you have gone through all the trials an tribulations in the past two years and although at times you have got low in your self you have stuck with it and now you are in the position that others are still waiting for.
You have a great time ahead of you in your new home.
Willy
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Gerry,
best of all in life with you & Fiona. I was looking at "End of the road (Read 22773 times)" and I think your China journey most interesting. Maybe longer than Marco Polo! (He ended up marrying an Italian woman when he returned to Italy. He must of been one ugly dude not to have captivated a China woman.)
Hope your grand journey continues the course.
John
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If it weren't for bad luck Id have no luck at all.. Got the visa packet in my hand.
There is a letter in the packet saying if we have not reached our 2 year anniversary then we need to file for adjustment of status.
well guess what? we are short by one day. we were married in China on December 10th. when we arrive in Los Angeles it will December 9th Los Angeles time. If we had waited ONE MORE DAY we would not need to file the AOS at al and she would receive her green card immediately.
Does anyone know...Does this mean we need to wait another 2 years to get here green card?
Or does she receive the green card on our 2 year anniversary (the day after we arrive)?
Here is an interest thought but I dont know if i will take the chance and get her deported.
We were married December 10th 2010 China time). We arrive in Los Angeles on December 10th 2012 (china time). Our two year anniversary.
I just checked the arrival time in LA.. It's 4.5 hours too early.
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well I got lucky for a change. I was able to change the reservation one day for $50 per ticket. So a $100 insures we arrive in the USA on our 2 year anniversary.
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That will be a close call, because the arrival time at the POE AND the CBP agent will both figure into that equation. The agent can actually go either way when deciding which stamp to use CR/1 or IR/1. They will use arrival time/date in the USA when making the decision though! Good Luck, Robert
P.S. It will take about 45 days for her greencard to arrive in the mail, they will stamp her passport with her visa type that serves as the greencard until the actual card arrives.
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Here I thought, the Perm. Green Card only is approved being "Here" in the States 2 years and after applying for it 90 days before her Temp. is to expire?
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Robertt,
We arrive in LA at 7"30 in the evening (only 4.5 hours for midnight) . I hope the decision falls my way.
Arnold, That is true if you have been married less than 2 years when she first arrives in America.
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Gerry, It is just one more river to cross!
The final hurdle to lifelong happiness in the place you call home.
You have gone too far to worry about a minor hiccup that may not or may not happen, (I thought that I was the forum pessimist). But what if it does, you will still be together in the USA while it sorts itself out. The Green Card is not the signal for true love to continue to flow. The green card will come when the time is right.
But do not get too excited about the 10th arriving, I mean, like me you are not getting any younger. Enjoy these last couple of weeks in China.
Willy
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The Road leads home.
Leaving and returning home with my wife.
Thank god that is over.
Saying goodbye to China ! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG4eoONlutE#ws)
TAXI !
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It was a harrowing experience but Fiona's feet are firmly planted on USA soil.
bags overweight and extra bag...$200
airport security finding my brass knuckles in her carry on....a hundred more gray hairs.
Being interrogated for an hour by US immigration "secondary inspection" at LAX. ... One missed flight and a near heart attack.
Fiona's face when they finally released us from immigration control and she stepped onto the sidewalk at LAX....Priceless.
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Let me share a little of the trip home. Just the ending....
We Finally get to LAX and head to go through passport/immigration control.
She was allowed to go with me through the US citizens queue.
The man checked our passports a couple of times and just when it looked like he was going to stamp them and send us on our way he asked to see my passport again. Then he gathered up everything and told us to follow him to another room. Its called "secondary inspection" and I have never noticed it before. He handed our stuff over to a clerk there and we were told to sit down and wait to be called. I could see one of the officers reading through our file and checking the computer and counting on his fingers. I had no idea what he was doing and this entire process was a total surprise to me. After about 20 minutes he cam over and got my wife and took her back to his desk and started to interrogate her. After another 30 minutes I got up and walked over and asked is there anything I can do to help. I was told ominously that I would have my turen and to go back and sit down until they were finished with her ( another officer had joined in the interrogation).
Finally he brought here back and she was made to sit while they interrogated me. I was asked how we met, how may wives I had before, how many children and on and on . All were the same questions they had asked her both in Guangzhou and during this surprise interrogation here. I cant imagine what was going on with all the questioning and cross checking after all Guangzhou had already approved her and issued her a immigrant VISA. And what would they have done if she had come alone and I was not here to crosscheck. I think they were verifying her answers to the questions with the answers she had given in Guangzhou. And since I was here might as well cross check my answers to the same question.
I was very frightened and was imagining that they were going to put her back on the plane and send her home to China. Afterwards he brought our passports back and said we were free to go. Just before I left I asked him what was that all about. H replied it was just business as usual and they do it with all new marriages. I am not sure I believe him but I don't have a choice.
At any rate it caused us to miss our connecting flight and we are hang out in a dark secluded part of Thomas Bradly terminal and wont be home until about 1:pm tomorrow.
oh yes.. If her case is class CR1 then she will only get a 2 year green card regardless.
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Gerry glad to hear that you and your wife made it threw immigration.No that was not business as usual.They were taking another shot at you and your wife.My guess is that they are still mad about the letter you sent to the congressman.The good news is she is in country now.And it will take a act of congress for them to deport your wife.They can still mess with you for a couple of years.But it isn't to bad.They mite make a couple of home inspections.and at the biometric exam.But that is about all they can do.
Some things you mite want to do to make this go easier for the both of you.Create a history for your wife in the states.A bank account in both your names.A couple of bills in her name.Maybe a subscription to a magazine.A cable bill for Chinese TV.What you are after is.Mail going to you and Fiona's house.In her name.
Gerry in case you don't know Fiona cannot leave the U.S. without the permission to travel form.Or a green card.If she do's you will have to start all over again.The application for the permission to travel will come with the adjustment of status.Make sure that your wife takes both copies if she is going to travel abroad.
Good luck and best wishes.On the rest of your Journey.I heard that Denver may get some snow in a couple of days.So that will be a nice suprise.
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Gerry welcome to the NOT End of the road but to a new FORK in the road, and welcome to America Fiona. Just wondering, however, since Chinese eat with chop sticks, can they ever reach their own fork in the road? I just hope it is happy trails for the two of you. And Gerry, I hope we can see a picture of you carrying her across that threshold into the home that was waiting a lifetime for the two of you.
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Gerry , congratulations to you and Fiona , after many twists and turns you have finally made it to home turf , now once you catch that other plane you can both relax , regards Sujuan and Robert . ;D
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Boy, I could imagine you sweating in that Room. Even I had to go through this "Secondary Inspection" the last time I arrived back from Shanghai (by myself that is), for a reason I don't know? I also went through it in Frankfurt.. and who knows why all of this? Maybe my four trips to China looked suspicious?
Anyway, like Maxx said.. (during the two years) get as much as you can with both your names on it. It made it so much easier with Qing to receive her Perm. Green Card. As you know, I didn't even "Try" to travel back to China and take the risk of anything going wrong... just wait out the two years (I'm sure your not in the mood anyway to rush back soon) for the 10 year Card.
Best wishes for a wonderful Life from here on in!
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Hey Gerry and Fiona....
Congrats on a job well done. Its not everyone who is prepared to take on
the immigration bureaucracy of ANY country and prevail. Kudos
I remember when Yan passed through Immigration in NZ and was walking
across the hall to the gates to NZ , only to be grilled by a 'floating' INZ
checking officer. She of course spoke little english, so i was very nervous.
But it all worked out, and has continued to work out :-)
You probably already know this, but I took a digital camera camera with us wherever we
went and built up a WEEKLY portfolio of photos, which helped immensely.
There have been a lot of instances here of people seeking residency on the basis
of a relationship, that is not genuine, so INZ are pretty good at picking scams
The best
David and Yan
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Gerry,
Just to clarify a few points for you. She can travel as soon as she gets her green card which usually takes about 45 days after her arrival here. She can also work as soon as she gets the SSN card ( no EAD needed for CR/IR1 visa holders) If you requested her to be issued the SSN card on the DS-230 form the card may or may not be sent automatically(my wife's was not sent automatically) If she does not receive the SSN card within the first 4 weeks she is here, then you can visit the local ssa office. Wait at least 3-4 weeks after her arrival to give her name and data time to be entered into the SAVE system. Her name must be in that system for the SSA to verify her status and eligibility for the SSN card.I waited 4 weeks then applied for my wife's social security card and received the card about 7 days later. The CR/IR visa has many advantages over the K-1 or K-3, because you can work and travel almost immediately after arriving in the US. The removal of conditions will be due within the 90 day window prior to your wife's 2 year anniversary of her ARRIVAL DATE in the USA. That date is stamped in her passport if you forget. The I-751 filing fee is currently $ 505 USD and $ 85 USD for a total of $590 USD whereas the AOS for K-1/K-3 is $985 USD and $85 Biometric fee for a total of $1070 USD. Good Luck and hope your wife likes snow! Regards, Robert
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Hey Rhonald, of course I carried her across the threshold.
Well we spent our first night here. we had to sleep on an air matress. But it was ok. we were so exhausted from 48 hours on the road we just took a shower (she used most of the hot water) and colapsed into bed. We ordered a new bed ( I burned the old one that Jing used to sleep in. I am sort of weird that way.
so so many thing to do. nothing works. the refirgerator died while I was gone. My 24 inch monitor died but somehow I got it working again. the computer that I built for her refuses to install windows 8 Chinese. And the damned phone does not work. It was working fine when I left.
Aint it great to be back home.
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I think it's about time that things go "Easier" for you two, I have enough... feeling sorry for you! :'( ::)
Anyway, no place like Home and that it will be in no time at all... with a chinese touch of course!
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Gerry if everything was easy then you wouldn't appreciate the good times as much.
I'm glad you are both here and enjoying life together.
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Hi,I'm new here.Gerry! can you tell me which forms did you use.Was it the CR1?I love reading your story :)
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Thanks LP.
I am not sure what it is your want to do. There are many forms and I do not recall the Cr17 as one of them.
Tell us a little about yourself and your situation so we can make better suggestions.
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CR-1 is a visa type, you will need to file an I-130 form with USCIS to receive a CR/IR-1 visa. If you wish to apply for the Fiancee visa ( K-1) then you need to file the I-129F form. You can apply for the K-3 visa but your case will most likely be converted over to CR-1 when the case reaches the NVC since most I-130 forms arrive at NVC at the same time as the I-129F and the I-129F is administratively closed at that point. Regards, Robert
P.S. You can check out my site below by clicking the " USA Immigration " link. Look at the page concerning visa types and overviews, that will explain each type of visa to you.
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Surprise, surprise. 15 days after arrival there is a 10 year green card siting in the mailbox..
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Surprise, surprise. 15 days after arrival there is a 10 year green card siting in the mailbox..
So was it "Your's" or Fiona's? After being out of the Country soooo long, thought you might have to apply for one too! :-\
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I'm so envious of you, Jerry. Congratulations again.
Some days, I'm really tempted to pull the pin on my job, rent my house to a handful of Australian ski bums and head to China until this thing gets sorted. If I hated my job, it would have happened by now.
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That's funny but back before the interview, because I had been gone so long I had to prove the the USA was my country of domicile. Luckily I still held property and paid my bills every month.
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Neil. a lot of guys (most) get married or file for a fiance' and head back home to wait. Many times I wish I had done that but just didn't want to be without her. It really is painful waiting even when you are in tame house because you will miss all the things in your country that made it home. China for a long term is not the place for a novice. It will wear you down. The best comprise is to travel back and forth while your waiting. I am so very thankful that the waiting for VISA is over.
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The next portion of the journey is going to be just as frustrating. Driving, instructions, English lessons and learning to dance with a new partner. We have already had a few "moments" of wanting to die or kill each other over communication and bull headedness. I don't remember this being such a problem with Jing but I think it was because I was very much her senior and dominate the relationship. With her being so young she treated me like and older brother or father. Things were much smoother. Fiona on the other hand has been alone since her daughter was born and is very much independent and tries to dominate me. ( I guess because I am so lode and feeble.
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Here is 2 links that might make life a little easier for you.
http://www.xingfulove.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=95 (http://www.xingfulove.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=95) ESL lessons for native Chinese speakers
http://apps.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/foreign_hdbk/dl600C.pdf (http://apps.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/foreign_hdbk/dl600C.pdf) California Drivers Manual ( Chinese Version ) 2012
Good luck, Robertt
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Gerry be careful. She might hide your Geritol. ;D Get it - Get it!!! ::)
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Neil, Life here in America has settled into a lazy routine and we are just enjoying the relief of being freeeeee! I hope to see you at this point... taking your bride home with you. You deserve it and I am sure you wont give up until you get what you want. she is a beautiful girl and a lovely bride.
Waiting was torment. I hated China and the arrogant assholes that mistreated everyone else that they perceived was a lower class. I had some close calls where I almost lost my temper and ended up in jail. I wanted to go home so bad but I did not want to be without my wife, nurse, lover and friend so I tolerated it. I was so relieved when the letters started arriving and was prepared for the last minute obstacles they threw in our path.
Now China is just a place to visit never to live again.
http://youtu.be/zG4eoONlutE (http://youtu.be/zG4eoONlutE)
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Waiting was torment. I hated China and the arrogant assholes that mistreated everyone else that they perceived was a lower class. I had some close calls where I almost lost my temper and ended up in jail. I wanted to go home so bad but I did not want to be without my wife, nurse, lover and friend so I tolerated it. I was so relieved when the letters started arriving and was prepared for the last minute obstacles they threw in our path.
Now China is just a place to visit never to live again.
I wonder what makes one person happy here and another hate it?
Is it ones frame of mind or is it something more complex?
Is is because one has been completely content in life or has suffered in the past.
Is it the fact that most who come here are counting off the days when they will return home and look for things they are uncomfortable with or has any other been like me counting of the days till they can apply for permanent residents permit.
Has anyone else apart from Gerry spent a long period here gone through the same different experiences as him or I?
Will differences experienced here affect relationships in the future?
Just my thought of the day.
Willy
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Willy,
I think all people look at everything differently. We are creatures of comfort and going from
were you are to a place like China might disrupt that for some.
From my experience here with people I have met, particularly Americans, they seem to embrace China as long as they can live as close to possible to their overseas lifestyle especially when it comes to food.
Now I am not talking about those here for two or three weeks but those here for a year of more.
I must admit that many could not come here and live the same lifestyle as me, but it suits me as I have lived in some really bad places in my journey's around the world. The back streets of Lagos, Nigeria being the most dangerous by day and night and in the slums in Mumbai (Bombay) and compared to them an apartment in China is like Heaven.
If I was younger then maybe I would have a different view but for me the remainder of my days, hopefully, will be in China.
Willy
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Thought I would write a little something about what's been going on here since we got back.
Several projects around the house. Built a computer desk for her. a Tv Stand. and refinished a Dining room table. Stuff arrived from China slowly. there was a total of 14 boxes we shipped and it took 2 months to get the last one. (which incidentally was one of the first shipped)
English Lessons... She is now going 2 hours twice a week for ESL classes. They are free !
I Tried to teach her to drive but I think I will wait until my pacemaker is repaired ;D
Quite a bit showing her the sites around Longmont and the shopping centers.
Stocking the shelves and making the house livable .
so far my bank account is down 8,000> think that will be it for a while.
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NOT FINISHED YET.
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OK. now I am done
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BTW. I had to do the table twice. It came out too dark the first try and I just hated it. So I started over. I like the lighter color much better.
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Great job Pineau!!!! :)
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Great job Pineau!!!! :)
I will not table that motion LP, but concur - great job Pineau, now you have a great place to show off the fancy China!
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she looks so happy Gerry, i wish you both many years of happiness together, Great job on the table top .
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Great photos thanks for sharing. Table looks beautiful, had to laugh at the driving lessions!
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Great photos thanks for sharing. Table looks beautiful, had to laugh at the driving lessions!
I second every work Kenny said here. My Heart went into over-drive with Qing's lesson's, but they do learn fast. Is Fiona handling the Snow well? :o
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Great photos. Thanks for the update.
I think by the pictures that Fiona is handling the cold much better than Gerry is with her learning to drive. :o ;D
Back to the photos. Petting the purrito. Nice.
Love the red rocks too. Inn of the Mountain God's?
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Shaun, Colorado Springs. Garden of the Gods park. She is handling the cold and snow quite well for someone who has never seen it before.
She kept saying ' Snow angle? what's a snow angle? Lay down in the snow. Now your bullshitting me!"
As far as driving. I just stick to the big parking lot over by the furniture store. She cant do any damage there. She gets the gas and brake confused and it really gives me whiplash. But honestly she is improving. I should get one of those little yellow warning signs for the window.
She is already tired of school and ready to go get a job while she plans her business. I think she should finish school. Its only 3 more months.
That was MY cat before I went to China. I left him with Jing for two years and now that I am back he is Fiona's cat. They are best friends
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Crap!!!!!!! :-[
I knew it was in Colorado Springs but I got the name wrong. In of the Mountain God's is a resort on an Indian Reservation in Ruidoso, New Mexico. Been to both places several times.
Get a yellow sign or a cervical collar while she learns to protect the brain matter.
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A great lot of photos Gerry , out here it is 37 C , but in Shenyang they have had a large dump of snow today and it is -2 C , so Sujuan is stuck in the apartment , waiting to go to her Mums house who is moving houses next week , regards Sujuan and Robert .
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Gerry you have created a whole new meaning for the phrase ' Honey! Shall we spend some time on the table?' :-[
Mind you I would be proud to have created such an item.
Willy
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My step daughter just got approved. 2.5 months.
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That was nice and speedy Gerry , what , have the paper shuflers finally got their collective fingers out , regards Sujuan and Robert .
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I wish I had figured this out before.
I have a lot of my facebook photos stored at photobucket.
I could have dispensed with all the resizing and reformatting and just posted a link.. duh !
http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/Gpineau/library/Facebook/450152228356341?page=1 (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/Gpineau/library/Facebook/450152228356341?page=1)
and here is my desktop wallpaper. size it to fill the screen.
http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a545/Gpineau/Pretty%20Girls/WindowsPhotoViewerWallpaper_zps02bbf5f1.jpg (http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a545/Gpineau/Pretty%20Girls/WindowsPhotoViewerWallpaper_zps02bbf5f1.jpg)
if it asks for a password it is chinalove
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I didn't realize I had marked all the photos as private. Sorry
The user interface on Photobucket is a little convoluted but you can get there if you click enough links.
Click on show albums.
Click on facebook.
http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/Gpineau/library/Facebook (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/Gpineau/library/Facebook)
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The AOS processing fee has been cashed.
Now time for the immigration application fee. another $230.00
Then submit the immigration application.
Then submit the AOS.
Then wait for the interview.
Any guess on how much longer this is going to take?
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Any guess on how much longer this is going to take?
Just hold on a sec and I will get back to you with my answer okay.
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The AOS processing fee has been cashed.
Now time for the immigration application fee. another $230.00
Then submit the immigration application.
Then submit the AOS.
Then wait for the interview.
Any guess on how much longer this is going to take?
You will need to submit the Affidavit of Support first, then pay the IV fee after you receive the invoice for the IV fee. :) If you opted-in to the electronic processing then you can be in and out of NVC in 2-4 weeks and the interview is usually scheduled for about 25-45 days after the case is closed at NVC and forwarded to the State Dept.
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Well someone there got ahead of themselves. I already have the invoice for the immigration visa. (230)... but I have not mailed the immigration applications (which they asked for in the AOS receipt). Neither have I mailed the AOS . So I guess I had better get busy and get the AOS ready, mail the fees and the IV application. Maybe all at the same time. !
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I was just going by what was posted. :) Don't forget the coversheets and receipt pages! Have you considered using the Electronic processing? Would save you some time!
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This is a serious question. Why cant we upload files and photos of any size. It is a real pain in the ass to have to rescale photos just for this website.
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I usually don't have any problem posting photos here. Are you talking about here in the forum or in the Media Albums at the top of the page?
(http://www.baconwrappedmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/funny-kids-bacon-wrapped-media-21.jpg)
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Jerry, we had this discussion before, I'm pretty sure.
The bigger the file, the longer it takes to send/receive and the more space it takes to store. Bandwidth costs money, and once a website surpasses certain bandwidth limits, the costs rise, quite sharply I believe. This is a free site, so the owners have to set some limits. When someone else views images that have been uploaded, those images also count toward bandwidth limits.
Sites like photobucket are great. Free storage, and the links that you post to images use photobucket's bandwidth, not this site's bandwidth.
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Robertt, I am talking about right here as attachments to our posts. the norm now days is 10-15 megapixels for your run of the mill camera. If you try to post one of those you will fail. You must rescale it to a smaller size or it will fail to upload.
Neil, yes we have had this discussion before and I was never satisfied with the outcome. You have provided more information in this short response than I have seen before.
Storage space should not be an issue. Since I joined the forum the size of hard drives have quadrupled and the price has dropped in half.
So the only issue left is bandwidth which I agree cost money to move the files across the net but I don't agree that we are about to choke the internet with the few hits we get from photos attachments. I rarely see more than 10 users on the forum at any one time and I doubt that they are all looking at high bandwidth photos. I suppose that in the end someone is paying for the bandwidth and if thy say we have a limit then we must comply. Photobucket is a less desirable solution but it will work.
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You do have a valid point Jerry. I don't know how often the Irishman stops by, but maybe he can check our limits. You're right, it's not like this is a high traffic site.
Since I always upload my pictures to Facebook or the QQ zone so family can see them, both of those sites resize pictures as they upload. Then, if I want to share something, the picture is a lot smaller.
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Gerry, as I recall.. Irish said ones before, that he will not pay for "Extra Bandwidth" if needed. He's the one to set us up here and if there were charges.. he'd taken care of them himself so far.
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This is really off topic, and I think may deserve its own thread. I will say I have gotten a LOT from this forum in the short time I've been here, and I'd be HAPPY to donate. I'm sure there's a way to take donations, rather than create a membership fee or something to help defray costs.
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I sent in the AOS and the immigration application fees.
Asked for electronic process and they said yes.
So last week I sent the whole shebang in two emails. cross your fingers and maybe I will be headed back to China soon to fetch my daughter.
Fiona is waiting patiently for her daughter. She talks to her twice a day and uses amazon.cn to send her cookies and snacks to take to school.
The photo is looking west from Firestone charter school toward Longmont. if not For prairie dogs and Longmont it would have been a great photo.
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Sweet Gerry!
Can Fiona sing from the sound of music? The hills are alive?
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Another turn down....
how does one show proof of ownership and value of savings / checking accounts. real-estate.
The real estate is easy. I have a deed but the bank accounts. How do you show you own every penny in them. I think they are just being picky again.
where is the GUZ P3 SUPPLEMENT
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Another turn down....
how does one show proof of ownership and value of savings / checking accounts. real-estate.
The real estate is easy. I have a deed but the bank accounts. How do you show you own every penny in them. I think they are just being picky again.
where is the GUZ P3 SUPPLEMENT
Take photo of Bank you have an Account with, withdraw all your Money.. go home and take photo with all the Money and receipt.. then go back and deposit it and take another photo of receipt showing deposit.
..or have the Bank make out a Cashier's Check in your name, take photo and put it back in.
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Another turn down....
how does one show proof of ownership and value of savings / checking accounts. real-estate.
The real estate is easy. I have a deed but the bank accounts. How do you show you own every penny in them. I think they are just being picky again.
where is the GUZ P3 SUPPLEMENT
Here is the GUZ 3 Supplement you will need to send in for the Electronic processing. http://travel.state.gov/pdf/pk3_supplements/GUZ-SUP-MULT-0004-0904.pdf (http://travel.state.gov/pdf/pk3_supplements/GUZ-SUP-MULT-0004-0904.pdf)
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Here is some additional information that may help you. I think a letter from the bank explaining that you are the sole person on the bank account and the account is free of liens and other claims would be sufficient.
May the petitioner/sponsor count assets to meet the 125 percent minimum income requirement? Yes, except with form I-864EZ. The sponsor's income is totaled first. Personal assets and/or the income and assets of household members who have signed an I-864A are totaled next. Usually the sponsor must present evidence of location, ownership and value including liens and liabilities for each asset listed. The consular officer must find that the financial value of the asset can be converted to cash within one year to support the sponsored immigrant without undue harm to the sponsor or his/her family.
http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/info/info_3183.html#6 (http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/info/info_3183.html#6)
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Thanks Robertt. I sent in the retry today. Hopefully the letter from my bank will convince them that the money is really, really mine. But with my luck they will probably find some other stupid mistake and nail me again for another 20 days,
OPEN QUESTION. I want to be in Cancun in December. Anyone know where an American green card holder gets a Mexico VISA? Google didn't help.
SHHH ! its a surprise.
never mind. I found an email address for the Mexico consulate in Denver.
I 'll have my toes in the water, my ass in the sand. Not a worry in the world, a cold drink in my hand.
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PLEASE Gerry, no more videos of you in swimming trunks! The wife? SURE!))))))))))))
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Ha ha ha.....ESAD !
OK you asked for it. Hide your eyes....NO MORE BATHING TRUNKS ! From now on its all natural.
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He asked for it. ! He is tired of my swimming trunks.... 8)
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WOO HOO!
I am sure a lot of guys wonder about this as well. But a green car holder does not need a visa to travel to Mexico.
From the Mexican consulate in Denver.
Mr. Pineo:
If your wife is a holder of a valid Chinese passport, and a USA green card, she can visit Mexico as a tourist; both of you will receive the Tourist forms before landing or at the first pint of immigration entrance.
Sincerely yours,
Blanca Martinez,
No sneaking her passport away and send it off and watching the mailbox so she doesn't find it.
Haha, jut tell he to pack for a few days in the mountains and head to the airport.. great.
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But what about getting back into the USA! ::)
Can that be a problem at times?
I mean for you American Passport holders! ;D
Willy
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Yes it is true Willy. Sometimes they think we might be British. :o ;D
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Yes it is true Willy. Sometimes they think we might be British. :o ;D
Shaun, go and sit down and take the medication - your hallucinating again. ;D ;D
Willy
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I've taken Qing over the border to Mexico (by mistake) and she did only had to show Green Card to get back in the US. Me, well that was another Story (see Blog).. hehe.
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Does that mean she can go anywhere I can go without a VISA as long as she carries a USA green card?
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Gerry yes and no.If you need a visa.Your wife will need a visa.Except for China.If you travel to a foreign country.That you don't need a visa.Then no your wife doesn't need a visa.She just needs her green card
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I did a little more digging about Europe VISA.
There is a special visa that you can get that allows you to travel to 12 different countries BUT YOU MUST HAVE THE VISA AND SHOW IT AT THE FIRST COUNTRY WHERE YOU ARRIVE. After that you are free to travel about Europe.
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I discovered a device that allows you access to over 200 China TV and movie channels from within the USA over a broadband connection.
So, you want to be a hero and get undying devotion renewed? Buy one of these and don't tell her how much it costs until she is addicted to it.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AAZQ70C/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
(http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AAZQ70C/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
I had it installed, setup and watching Chinese TV in about 15 minutes.
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I did a little more digging about Europe VISA.
There is a special visa that you can get that allows you to travel to 12 different countries BUT YOU MUST HAVE THE VISA AND SHOW IT AT THE FIRST COUNTRY WHERE YOU ARRIVE. After that you are free to travel about Europe.
By road it is a piece of cake as all border points along the roads into adjoining countries have been removed. By air you may have to go through a check point at the airport but having the entry visa to the first European Union country will get you through airport checks as well. The European Union now boast 22 countries within their' club' now.
Willy
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Having a great time showing Fiona my part of America.
We planted a garden and she is so proud of her green thumb. She rescued a rose bush that was really a piece of brown wood that resemble a stick. Now it is covered with deep crimson roses and thriving.
Went to the 4th of July parade and roasted on the sidewalk watching all the cars, tractors and horses parade by. I can't say if she enjoyed it or not because she has the perpetual smile on her face.
She had never see a real live horse before let alone pet one but she got a chance after the parade. I know she enjoyed that.
Later we went to the Fireworks display and I thought she was going to faint when they did the grand-finale. (us Americans know a bit about fireworks too)
AND IN TWO WEEKS I am taking her to Cheyenne to the biggest rodeo in the USA. Bull riding, bronco busting and calf roping to name a few. It will be a blast. Then the next night she gets to go to her first country music concert staring Toby Keith. For you non Americans he is a pretty radical Country western performer.
We are having a grand time but we miss our daughter Katie very much. She gets two phone calls every day but it is not the same as having her around. She and I just started to know each other and were able to poke fun and joke around when I had to return to the USA. I will be so happy when she gets here.
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The rose
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Her name is Katie and she is 12 years old. A couple of reasons.
1. We were having a very difficult time getting her mother approved we wanted to do them one at a time.
2. She was in the middle of a school year at a private school and we thought it would be less disrupting if she finished the school year.
Last word from the NVC is that they have uploaded everything into their computer and will be reviewing it. Don't bother us for 20 days. It's hard to predict what will happen with the USCIS so I cant say when she will arrive here. My guess is if she makes it for the Fall semester it will be just barely. I got lucky this week. There is a charter school 2 blocks from our house. You get admitted by lottery or by having an older sibling attending. Well since it is summer I thought I would see if there were any "dropouts" since school ended. Luckily there were 2 seats available and I rushed over and paid the fees in advance to reserve a seat for Katie. It will be a great first school for her. Small classes and only 2 blocks from home.
I was 58 when I went on wife safari. Now I am 61 an I understand how things are not what they were. I have slowed down considerably in the last 2 years but I am still full of piss and vinegar. I just hope I have enough left to raise just one more child. Katie grow an inch every time I look at her. She is bigger than her mom now and base on the size of her feet she should be 8 feet tall.
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Great photo's you both look very happy. I am sure you will do fine when your daughter gets here. I had the same thoughts about raising another daughter but Ziwei loves it here and we have a good relationship. She is fourteen now.
I need to get some photo's together, my wife has quite the green thumb too. She has enlarged her flower every year since she has been here.
Good Luck Gerry
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Katie is scheduled for an interview in late September. She is enrolled in school in Guangzhou and also her in the USA. We are thinking about pulling her from school in Guangzhou and just getting her a tutor for the month of September. That will save us the cost of tuition for a whole semester.
Question is where do I find in Guangzhou a tutor willing to sign of on just one month of tutoring.
Anyone living in Guangzhou know of a tutor or private school that will sign off on just one month of tutoring?
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Question is where do I find in Guangzhou a tutor willing to sign of on just one month of tutoring.
Anyone living in Guangzhou know of a tutor or private school that will sign off on just one month of tutoring?
I know you are going to hate me for that Gerry, but how about Mike.. he might be willing. Hence Guangzhou is not too far from Nanshan?
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I don't know him. Is he licensed and qualified to sign off on her school records?
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Mike has taught in public school in Nanshan. I don't know his current status though. His primary teaching is English. You might be better off to get her a private teacher once she arrives in Colorado. At least the curriculum they teach will apply to the school in America.
Check with the school you've enrolled her in. They should have a list of tutors. They can teach her via skype or qq. Then there won't be any question of what she has learned for a month. Plus the local tutor can help her adjust once she is in Colorado. All school systems in America have tutors they approve of and accept.
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I guess Gerry doesn't know our old friend the China Shark? Has it been that long, he's banned from here?
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Never met China Shark. I just read a lot about him until I was ready to puke. I think Shaun has a good idea. Get her a private tutor when she arrives here. I don't think the Skype teaching will work because of the time difference.
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I think once you have a track record with the Chines immigrations office they are more considerate. I have been getting 1 year multi entry VISAs since 2000. I just got another one today. The VISA service agency told me I wouldn't get it but I asked them to try anyway and sure enough I got it.
Katie is enrolled in the Charter school only 2 blocks from our house. She will start school late but they are holding her seat for her.
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I just talked to Fiona, Her plane has arrived in Guangzhou. She is tired and hungry. We started this trek at 4:00 Am yesterday so from start to finish was 28 hours.
Here is a surprise I was not expecting. I booked her on a United flight that goes from Denver- Vancouver- Beijing - Guangzhou. Well at check-in we are told that she could not go because she did not have a Canadian visa. Surprise, Surprise, I was not aware that you need a Canadian VISA JUST to PASS THROUGH THE AIRPORT and make your connection.
Nearly had a heart attack. Its 5:00 am and we were told to come back when she had a VISA. NOWHERE ON UNITEDs WEBSITE does it mention this when you book the ticket. But that's the law now days. So I had to book her on a different flight through Japan that is not so anal retentive about transit passengers. SO beware if your passing through Canada you cant even use the toilet there if you arrive on a plane.
The good news is she is there safe and sound and can start getting ready for Katie's interview. They should be home in a few weeks.
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One more reason, I will never fly United.. even if it's free!
What a dumb Law, leave it up to Canada to have their own. I would have been pissed, having to change my Flight's... which most likely cost you some extra for canceling with the idiot's on an restricted Ticket.
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Fiona's sister drove to Canada last month and the border crossing just required showing the green-card. The stupid thing about this is that passport and green-card holders can come and go as they please they are walking or in a vehicle. But if you arrive via airplane a whole other set of rules apply., Its really dumb.
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??? Something not right there? International flight with a stop in Canada shouldn't need a visa? Can't leave the airport, yes. But can fly in? Now I'm curious if there was a change or given wrong info? Well...
With international connecting flights, check to see if the country you will be making a connection at requires a transit visa to go through their airport. Some countries, such as the United States, Canada and the United Kingdom require all passengers to go pass through customs and immigration even if they are just transferring between international flights. You may find it easier if you can avoid passing through these destinations, particularly the United States which has the same requirements for a transit visa as for a tourist visa. Others, such as Hong Kong and Australia will require certain nationalities to obtain a visa even if they plan to remain in the sterile area. You are responsible for procuring all the necessary visas before you fly; request them as early as possible. :-X
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Yeah, that doesn't seem right to me either.
My brother is married to a Nigerian woman. On his first trip, he landed in Nigeria, but was not allowed to leave the airport because he didn't have a visa.
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The auto Check in kiosk rejected us. The roaming United rep verified it and commented it happens a lot.
And the two ticketing agents I spoke with all agreed . You cant fly to through Canada without a VISA.
It doesn't seem right to me either but I had three people and a computer telling me the same thing. Who you going to argue with at 5:00 in the morning?
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I fly through Canada all the time, and have never needed a visa.
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Yeah, that doesn't seem right to me either.
My brother is married to a Nigerian woman. On his first trip, he landed in Nigeria, but was not allowed to leave the airport because he didn't have a visa.
Well a few Niara paves the way anywhere in Nigeria. When I was flying from Lagos I was always asked by customs if I wanted my baggage checked before loading or not. Of course the 'or not' meant handing over money. I wonder just what could be smuggled on board planes from there.
Then again with Lagos as we where making an approach one evening all the runway lights went out. The pilot flew around for a long time then we went off to Ghana to refuel and we sat in the plane in Accra airport for 5 hours before word came back that the lights were on in Nigeria again.
Willy
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Well, if they are students in Canada, why would they want to go to the USA? I mean, nothing on that side of the border that's very interesting. All the cool stuff is up north....back bacon, Mounties, better beer....I could probably go on.
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Admit it Martin Canada is the USA's little sister. Mounties? yeah our women have them too.
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In the list of airlines in the China Transit Program United airlines is not listed. And Denver is not listed as any of the originating cities.
Most of the airlines are Asian and All of the originating cities are Asia. I think the China Transit Program is geared toward people traveling through Canada on flights that originate in China, Manila, or Taiwan.
Other than the onset of panic and frustration it turned out well. She went from Denver-Tokyo-Guangzhou which is one less connection for the same price and arrived two hours later than before. She actually needed that two hour layover in Tokyo to get boarding passes and find her gate .
I think the kiosk (which scans your passport) would/should have asked to scan her US VISA. I think the agents would/should have asked more questions about her residency. It really does not matter at this point. Mix up or not I will not fly through any Canadian airport without double checking with both airlines before I purchase tickets. I suggest that you do the same cause like I said who are you going to argue with at 5 in the morning.
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Like to add, on my first Flight to China (with Visa of course) I landed in Beijing and I (they wouldn't let me along with other Transfer's) even check out the Airport inside. They just pointed us to a room and we had to stay there til' a Train/Tram came to take us to the gate for Shanghai. Got me mad, as I wanted to check/see the "New" Airport they build for the Olympics. I now think, maybe that was the reason... they were practicing on me?
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I just talked with Fiona. Katie got approved and will get her passport with VISA in about 2 weeks. Another week to book tickets and the whole family will be back in the USA.
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Congratulations Gerry
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Great news and I know everyone is happy.
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Congrats Gerry!
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Very happy for you Gerry. Congratulations.
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Congratulations, progress made.
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Congrats, I know you are happy this is almost completed.
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Congratulations,I hope you three the best Gerry!!!!
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We have had our ups and downs since your first posting on this a little under two years ago.
However I am pleased to hear your news and hope that your part of Colorado is a dry one and that your complete family will enjoy life there.
Willy
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Congratulations, life as you know it is about to change-- allot!
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Thanks, everyone.
I am in constant communications with Fiona. For 3 years we have been together 24/7 and we don't grow tired of each other. I hope it will remain that way. We have been married close to 3 years now we fight and we make up like all couples but I still miss her terribly when we are apart.
She is ready to come home to Colorado. She agrees with what all my Chinese friends have said after living in the USA for 6 or more months the returning to China for a visit. Guangzhou is crowded, noisy, dirty, and it smells bad.
I am anticipating getting Katie here so I can take them both to the continental divide. The freshest air on earth and the top of the highest mountains in America. From trail ridge road you can look south and see clearly Pikes peak 70 miles away.
Willy, Thanks for your concern. Actually I am right in the middle of the worst flooding in 100 years. I have been stuck on my island for over a week. The roads all around me are covered with water and most are not passable. here is a video of longmont last week.
http://youtu.be/1HShXhJMQdA (http://youtu.be/1HShXhJMQdA). Some of the roads are open again but it is taking me 45 minutes to get from my town into longmont. Im glad this only happens once in a hundred years.,
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Willy, Thanks for your concern.
Some of the roads are open again but it is taking me 45 minutes to get from my town into longmont. Im glad this only happens once in a hundred years.,
I really look forward to reading about it when it next occurs then. ::) Just imagine what a crotchity old b......... I would be by then! ;D
Glad to hear your safe.
Willy
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Katie's new room.
Busy getting ready for Katie. They are still waiting for the VISA to arrive by mail. Meanwhile Katie and Fiona went of on holiday to Beijing.
4 days getting her room ready. I bought some old solid wood ( not pressed fiber) bedroom set. Sanded and refinished it. Then carried everything upstairs by myself. I am really tired. I am a big boy but some of the furniture weighs more than me. But I got it done after Hours of carrying , tugging pushing.
The bedspread and pillow cases are just temporary. Fiona bought custom bedspread, comforter and curtains in China and they are on their way via China Post.
I think she is going to be amazed after what she had in China. Take a look. Appropriate for a young Chinese girl?
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Gerry you did great. ;D Your pictures took me back to when I had a previously owned furniture store.
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That all looks great Gerry , a lot of tlc and thought went into her room , I am sure she will love it , regards Sujuan and Robert .
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Looks good. I am sure she will like this.
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Looks like you have "Good" Taste not only in Food! I see you chose white, is that what Katie prefered.. instead the natural wood look?
When it comes to Furniture, we both dislike the cheap stuff and spend a little more for real wood.. as Qing and I have done with her son.. all Oak. Then again, I think a Girl (Katie) will much more appreciate "Her" bedroom set than Qing's son is. She will definitely be pleased and spoiled at the same time.
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Arnold,
I sent katie a slew of photos on QQ showing the different types of furniture and a gambit of the different colors. This is the style and the color that she chose. Although she originally chose a plain post headboard, when she saw this one she liked the headboard because it had a shelf and a couple of drawers.
Here is a photo of what she picked looking at internet showrooms. ( that is a $1000 bedroom without the mattress and foundation) I have about $475 + labor invested and I think she will like it better.
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Shaun, You will appreciate this. Last night I found an ad for furniture I could not stay away from. I bought another bedroom suite. But this one I will not touch with a sander or paint.
From Carolina, it is a 40 years old Thomasville, the complete Queen bedroom suite. Thick-solid wood. There is not a a single piece in the lot that weighs less than 35-40 pounds. The headboard was nearly too much for me to lift into the truck. I had to leave the dresser and armoire behind because two people could not carry them. I am going back today to get them. Cleaned and waxed it will look great in the guestroom. They don't make furniture like this anymore.
went back and got the dresser and armoire today. The dresser was so big I couldn't close the tailgate. They both rode home with the tailgate down and no tie-down straps.. they never moved.
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Message from wife.. We have been together for 3 years. In that time I think we have been apart only briefly. Most of that time we have been together side by side 24/7. You would think that you get tired of someone in you face all the time but it only strengthens our friendship. I miss her a lot and apparently she misses me too. A few of her words from this morning.
今天我将在北京市区游览,下午4点钟在酒店集合,将有车乘载我们到火车站. 你的妻子认为嫁给你,是她最正确,最荣幸,最幸福的选择. 这些年我们都是在一起,现在我们各在一方,我很不习惯 ...以后我们再也不要分离..我现在知道:我是非常爱你,你是我的爱人,朋友,和生活的伴侣..我死而无憾...
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..... just warms a Man's heart!!!
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Its been two weeks and still not VISA.
Could be the national holiday in China that lasts for 4 days.
Another possibility and I wonder if anyone knows.... Has the US government shutdown affected the visa unit at the Guangzhou embassy?
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Department of State
Overall impact
The State Department, which receives funding in the annual State, Foreign Operations and Related Programs Appropriations Act, will be able to operate for a limited time.
Impact on workers
Activities carried out by the Bureau of Consular Affairs, both domestically and abroad, are fee-funded and will continue. The department will continue passport operations and visa issuance overseas.Some passport offices are located in federal buildings that may be forced to shut down during a lapse in appropriations because of a lack of building support services. Embassies and consulates overseas will continue to provide American citizen services.
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I talked with the embassy and asked where is Katie's VISA. There was a week long holiday for most of the staff and that caused some delays. The VISA was approved on Sept 18th and issued on Sept 28th. She said they are still working on it getting the info packet ready to mail. It should be about another week. Seems this can take anywhere from two weeks to a month or more from approval till delivery.
A first happened today. Katie has never had a father. He split when she was born and in all her life she has seen him may half a dozen times. He doesn't have anything to do with her and has never supported her. When I came into her mother's life 3 years ago she saw me as just a friend of her moms and later her husband. She has always been quiet and stand offish with me until the last year. Just before I left China she began to open up to me. Joke a little and tease. Well I think I have crossed over from moms husband to being her dad. Tonight just as I was saying good night to her mom on Skype video chat. Katie leaned over in front of the camera and kissed me good night. Warmed my heart.
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PRICELESS!
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... Gerry, you now have TWO Ladies that think the world of you! NICE!
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Thumbs up from here Gerry. ;D
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MPO how long have you been waiting? Are you Appling for a USA visa? Are you still in Canada? How does that work?
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9/14/2013 Katie's visa in hand ! My girls are coming home.
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Congratulations Gerry. I'm so happy for you. Also a little envious.
Neil
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Great news. Congratulations.
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This is wonderful news. I am so glad that things are working out for you...
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Lisa just told me they are leaving tomorrow. Let us know when they are home safe and sound... would love to hear how Katie likes her new room!
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Yes I will shout out when they arrive. They are going to Hong Kong tomorrow after lunch and catch a flight home on Thursday. They will arrive here Thursday lunch:30.
Some people don't want the excess baggage of a kid and in the beginning I didn't. I focused my search for women that had grown kids. Katie is a sweet girl. I have known her since she was 9 years old. After knowing her I think it gives purpose to your life and it makes a family complete, and raising a kid is something to live for.
I hope she likes the room. I think she will. She has not seen any of the photos so it will be a complete surprise. I have been a busy boy the last 45 days and I have lost of surprises for both of them.
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Gerry
You'd have to take first prize for patience, persistence and tolerance with Beaurocracy.... ;D ;D
It is good to see that the saga has now concluded and you can begin life together as a family at last
Sincere good wishes to you and yours.
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Congrats Gerry, Glad to see everything worked out good in the end! Now all you will have to worry about is the daughter's puberty and American boys! Good Luck, I have 2 teenage daughters at home now and they about drive me crazy with all the drama they and their friends come up with! ;D
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Puberty...hmmm what that? Oh I remember.
Not so worried about the boys. You cans scare the out of mischief.
Back home in Oklahoma when you went to pick us a girl on a date. Here dad would be sitting outside on the porch cleaning his shotgun. I think I will be a little more direct than that. Tell him I just got out of prison for killing someone. Smile and walk away.
But the girls. YOUR girls have the sweet daughter thing going on. It takes some experience to figure them out. I'm pretty wise to the daughters thing. I discovered that they are as sneaky as the boys. I have one son. The worst of him was school and grades. I have 4 daughters and 1 step daughter. Katie will be daughter number 5. I have had daughters sneaking out at night, staying out at all hours of the night. I found my BBQ moved from the patio to the side of the house and found footprints on the wall outside leading up to the second floor window (daughters room).
I remember telling the school principal that I did not like the gangs at school and that they were a bad influence on my daughter. And he remarked... you don't understand... your daughter is the leader of the gang.
So when puberty arrives Katie is in for a surprise.. She is probably going to hate me for a few years.
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Well we are all at home now. Katie is enjoying her new digs. She jumped into the middle of the bed and hugged the big stuffed dog.
She and Katie were the last ones out, I was waiting outside and wondering what was going on and if they had missed their flight. Everyone else had left and then finally Fiona and Katie came through the door. Fiona said they were questioning her for a long time. Now this is truly the end of the road for this chapter. Just over three years beginning in October 2010. Feels like a big burden has been lifted from us and we can start living semi-normal lives again.
Thanks to everyone for their help and encouragement.
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AWESOME....!!! Just awesome... congratulations!
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As Phil would say.... Happy! Happy! Happy! ;D
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Congratulations on Finally coming to the end of tat long road. Best Wishes for the future.
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Time to enjoy Life in a normal way (I hope) and may it be for a long long time!
How did Katie like her room?
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She dove into the bed and hugged the big stuffed dog. She is going nuts exploring this house. It is like a castle to her. She has never seen anything like it. She has not even been in the basement. There is another 1000 square feet down there. I am having a blast watching her. She has really grown a lot. She is 12 years old and as tall as me and taller than her mom. I have no doubt she will be the tallest in the house in a few months.
Today we are going up to the mountain forest. I hope the roads are still open. They usually close them this time of year due to snow. That is where the moose, elk and big horn sheep live. As well as a few bears. http://rockymountainnationalpark.com/planning/webcams (http://rockymountainnationalpark.com/planning/webcams)
I am sitting here waiting for Fiona to put on her make-up. I asked her if she wanted took pretty for the bears before they eat her.
Thanks everyone for the well wishes.
After all this I still think of Neil. He has surpassed me in his frustration and waiting. I am hoping good things for him. He deserves a break.
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Thanks Gerry. Still no word. Hoping for a yes or no soon so I can hire a lawyer or bring her home.
I'm enjoying your success and I love reading about it and seeing the pictures. One day you'll be seeing mine. Don't worry.
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Gerry say hi to Grand Lake for me if you pass through. It is my favorite place in Colorado.
The Alpine visitors center is great. I was there maybe 15 years ago in August, was wearing shorts and a tee shirt with 10' ft of snow on the side of the road. Loved feeding the birds as they swooped down to take the bread out of your hands. My children thought it was the greatest. The fishing at Grand Lake sucked though. There had been a virus or something that had decimated the fish population the year before.
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It is three years almost to the the day that you first wrote on this thread. To you it must have seemed like half a lifetime!
I have to hand it to you as living in China for so long was not your first choice you stuck with it and you now have the prize.
To me those three years have gone by so fast and believe me as you get older they really do pass by faster each day.
Willy
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Great news Gerry, I sincerely hope that you Fiona and Katie have a long and happy life together, John.
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Congratulations to the end of this long road.And now a new one began, Best Wishes for the future.Quote from Gerry{She is going nuts exploring this house. It is like a castle to her. She has never seen anything like it. She has not even been in the basement. There is another 1000 square feet down there. I am having a blast watching her.}PS-Gerry wait tell she start exploring the city and see all the home are not like the home back home and my personal favorites !the washing machine and you don't have to put the clothes outside the window :)
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LP.....you don't have to put the clothes outside the window!
You'll be surprised when it comes to that. My LaoPo still takes some of them outside and specially her personals and it looks funny them hanging on the Patio for the neighbors to see. This is only of course if the Sun is out, otherwise it's hanging everywhere in the Bathrooms. Compared to mine, they never see the sunlight... much less the neighbors.
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Willy,
Living in China was my first choice. That is before I realized how long it was going to take to get a VISA. But I never imagined that it would take as long as it did.
I know China is your chosen home now and that some of my remarks may have offended you. So I will say publicly that China is not so bad a place. You just need to learn to avoid certain places, and certain types of people.
I lived in Shenzhen for a year, and I really enjoyed it. But there was something about Guangzhou that irritated me. I know I bitched a lot but it was never directed at China or Chinese people as a whole. I thought I was specific about the person, place or incident that set me off.
There are many, many incidents that I never mentioned. When you are out and about as much as I was you experience a lot of China , good and bad. I tried to be tolerant but at times it just pushed me past my limits. The bad stuff I will remember but Not as clearly as the temples, parks, beaches, KTV, shopping and pretty summer dresses.
I am certainly glad to be home, but I left a lot of good friends in China and I miss them. I will be returning.
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Katie's first day of school. She did ok but I am going to have to help her with her homework instructions. like what is a noun, pronoun, adjective...etc.
Also bought her a new puppy as an incentive to do good in school. Trouble is the little guy has already realized that I am the big dog and has started bonding with me. He is sleeping at my feet right now and will not let me out of his sight.
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It's that time of year again and I am in a playful mood.
http://youtu.be/qFRT_mU_p34 (http://youtu.be/qFRT_mU_p34)
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I about peed in my pants. Whoever the Dracula character is, he is really scary. I'll have bad dreams all night long now.
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Boy.. the first woman coming into the picture sure looks like Qing. Very nice Gerry.. makes you the master of Video.
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Staring:
Dracula.............me!
The witch......... Fiona
Frankenstein......my son
The mummy .....Fiona's sister Ada
Wolf man..........Katie.
Not me. It is JibJab.
http://youtu.be/qFRT_mU_p34 (http://youtu.be/qFRT_mU_p34)
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Today while I was checking my email, Fiona was on the phone with an old friend from Guangzhou. When she was finished she came over to my desk and was telling me about her old friend. She sounded very excited and happy to talk with her. They worked in the same office and their children were about the same age. She told me that they used to eat lunch together to save money.
She was telling me that Katie’s babysitter would bring her by the office sometimes and Katie would be such a mess. Dirty old clothes , dirty face and messy hair. Then her voice began to crack as she said her daughter looked like she lived on the sidewalk and that was the best babysitter she could afford as a single mother. Then large tears welled up in her eyes, her face turned red and she look at me and almost in a whisper she said thank you. Leaned over, hugged me, and cried. I was really touched. That was a few hours ago and I have had time to think what it was all about. I know the story of her life. the good, the bad and the tragedies. Certainly I have had a big impact in her and her daughters life and she shows me that she appreciates it. This will probably continue to happen as she remembers her life in China.
But I think what would it be like for her if she never met me, and what if I had married someone else. Where would she be now and where would I be? Who would have saved me when I was 9,000 miles from home and dying of internal bleeding? It boggles the mind to think of all the different paths we could take and I hope it is more than just destiny that lead me down this road. I thought this to be the end of the road but now I realize there is no end to this road. The path goes on..splits and multiplies and continues forever long after I am gone. The people I have met the lives that I have touch and that have touched me. What's next? I have no idea but I am sure it wont be boring and it will be meaningful to someone.......
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Thanks for that Gerry.
I was beginning to think that I was the only one that was happy in myself because I had made a positive change in my wife's life and that she appreciated it.
The moment I met her I knew that I could do that, rather I knew that I wanted to do that and I have achieved it (so far that is).
That feeling is great and I am pleased you have shared your own feelings with us.
Willy
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I think it is a great feeling to know that you have had such a good impact in someone's life.
I think what is even more telling, and I know you realize it too. is how much impact she has had on your life, and the fact that she proved it to you by being by your side when you were in such a desperate place with your illness.
Who is to say but that destiny brought you two together for that moment? All the rest is just your opportunity to pay if forward, as they say...
In my situation there is not much that I can do for Mei financially. But she is a good woman, and Chinese attitudes about having girls- not boys - can be tough on someone who, for all I can see, deserved to be treated better. I have no aspirations to make up for the past 20 years. My desire is to just enjoy the next few decades with her, and to express my love for her and her daughter.
Your thread has been very inspirational because you write with a sincere heart. Thanks.
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I've tried to balance everything when it comes to where she is at and where I am at. I've tried not to feel like or project that I have saved her from where she was at. I feel that way sometimes but I try to ground myself in a little reality.
Peggy saved me from a life of the same old thing day in and day out. It would have been easy after the divorce to fall back into my original lifestyle. But having been married to an American woman for 27 years and it not working didn't see it as a path that I wanted to take again. I am a firm believer that doing the same thing over again and expecting different results is insanity.
I met several women but when I found Peggy I knew she was the one and still think that way today. We've had a mountain of issues but we both still love each other. Yes I might be lucky enough to save her from a life of loneliness and poverty but she is saving me from a lonely, boring, meaningless, loveless life. She bring me as much joy today as she did 3 years ago.
Gerry I like what you said and Willy I do concur with you but for me I think we both have changed each other destiny.
We spoke to each other about this last night. It was a great time and discussion. I also think it drew us closer together just hearing what we mean to each other.
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Shaun, I feel as though I wrote what you stated myself. Life IS new and different now...all for the better. I feel things that I thought was no longer possible anymore. There's a damn good reason to get off the couch and to think of someone else. Someone deserving and wonderful!
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"We spoke to each other about this last night. It was a great time and discussion. I also think it drew us closer together just hearing what we mean to each other".
Real Love is not about who saves who, it is really something that can not be bought with money or sorrow. If Love is not equal from the start, it will never be! This is what gives us westerners the edge so to speak in these wonderful/kind Women (most of them), that we must NOT/NEVER take for granted or advantage of. Hearing Gerry's words, warms my Heart.. because I know exactly how it feels myself inside and that ones again makes me love my LaoPo even more so.
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Just found out from the school that Katie needs another vaccine.
In China they gave her a shot called TD (tetanus and diphtheria.)
In the USA they give a vaccine called TDAP (tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis ) Make sure your child gets the pertussis vaccine along with the TD vaccine while still in China.
Katie will now have to get another vaccine for pertussis but it will also contain the TD vaccine that she already got.
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Still waiting for Katie's green card. Since Oct 18th. Anyone (Robert)
know a place online to check the status of her green card?
What are the normal processing times?
I am considering returning to China. There is a company in Beijing that wants to speak to me about a leadership position. If I could get expat status it would go a long way toward recovering from my divorce losses and pay off this house.
Anyone (Robert). Know the rules for how long a green card holder can be out of the USA and how often should they return to keep their immigrant/permanent residence status.
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http://www.immihelp.com/greencard/retain-greencard.html (http://www.immihelp.com/greencard/retain-greencard.html)
I think this should help you Gerry.
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Still waiting for Katie's green card. Since Oct 18th. Anyone (Robert)
know a place online to check the status of her green card?
What are the normal processing times?
I am considering returning to China. There is a company in Beijing that wants to speak to me about a leadership position. If I could get expat status it would go a long way toward recovering from my divorce losses and pay off this house.
Anyone (Robert). Know the rules for how long a green card holder can be out of the USA and how often should they return to keep their immigrant/permanent residence status.
Gerry, it takes about 45-60 days for the green-card now. They have to make certain you have paid the $165.00 immigrant fee that was implemented in Feb of this year before the card is issued. If you have not paid that fee yet, it will have to be paid before her green-card is issued. You might be able to take the last receipt number you have for her case and enter it in the USCIS system using this link and see if it shows you anything. I know that when you remove conditions the system will show when the card was mailed and the USPS tracking number.
https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/Dashboard/CaseStatus.do (https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/Dashboard/CaseStatus.do)
Here is the information concerning international travel for LPRs. http://www.uscis.gov/green-card/after-green-card-granted/international-travel-permanent-resident (http://www.uscis.gov/green-card/after-green-card-granted/international-travel-permanent-resident)
Regards, Robert
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Ok. Robert, Thanks.
That was the problem. The new immigration fee was not paid.
The instructions for paying this fee were supposed to be in her interview packet but Fiona claims they were not.
So big hassle . Dont think you are finished when you walk out of the embassy with a thumbs up...
Open another account at the USCIS and pay the fee online. You need the Alian ID number, which is A0--followed by her visa number. So you must have the returned passport with the VISA attached.
And you will need her GZO----number and a credit card.
Start here and click log in.
http://www.uscis.gov/uscis-elis (http://www.uscis.gov/uscis-elis)
So along with the original fees paid in the begining... you will pay another $88. for the AOS processing, then $230 for the immigration application fee and another $165 for the new improved green card. $$$$$$ a total of $483 additional fees.
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First Christmas together in the USA.
It almost time for Santa
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http://www.jibjab.com/view/TkKhTsUhRbiAO9MZl0b11Q (http://www.jibjab.com/view/TkKhTsUhRbiAO9MZl0b11Q)
http://v.qq.com/boke/page/s/2/t/s10732hew2t.html (http://v.qq.com/boke/page/s/2/t/s10732hew2t.html)
THE GREAT SLED RACE
And look who Fiona caught in the front yard last night.
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I need to accelerate Katie's English skills or they threaten to bus her to another school that has an ESL program. I Smell a law suit coming but I would like to avoid it if I can.
I once saw a website for Chinese girls to hang out and talk in English. Anyone else remember it?
I got some good books at the library today. 1100 words yo must know. and how to speak American.
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Here is something that might help. This what my wife uses to study with! http://www.usalearns.org/class/ (http://www.usalearns.org/class/)
Here is one for kids specifically. http://www.youtube.com/user/KidsOnlineEnglish (http://www.youtube.com/user/KidsOnlineEnglish)
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1100 words yo must know. and how to speak American.
Learning to speak English might be a better proposal for her to learn.
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I've often thought about how much fun it would be to teach colloquialisms and slang. People would be shocked to learn what artists like Eminem are actually singing, or what those t shirts really mean.
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I've often thought about how much fun it would be to teach colloquialisms and slang. People would be shocked to learn what artists like Eminem are actually singing, or what those t shirts really mean.
Talking about T Shirts - There was someone on TV here with a Sex Pistols T shirt. The guy made appearances for two weeks running and on each occasion the TV studio staff had stuck thick black tape over the word SEX.
Colloquial English would be best. My teacher tells me if I am using phrases that are very out dated. But I tell her that I AM well past my sell by date.
Willy
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Neil, I have a book on colloquialisms and slang that I sit on the coffee table. It is a funny conversation starter. There are many Americans that have no idea about the origins of many of the things they say. Amusing and informative.
As far as Katie goes, her English is ok for be because I have been speaking Chinglish for 14 years. I think here English is also ok in most situations but ther are portions of the literacy test that she did not do well in. So instead of paying for another ESL teacher or time sharing the one they have, they opt to pay for a school bus and driver to bus her elsewhere in the school district. It doesn't make sense to me. And in the end I don't think it is the best thing for Katie.
I know how the English instructions for immigrants works here and it is completely geared toward the Mexican immigrants. The biggest problem I see with the school district's program is that the instructors are bi lingual (English-Spanish) When a student needs more information or better directions he is given it in SPANISH. I Dont see how a Spanish speaking instructor is going to help Katie and in fact will slow here down making her learn yet another language in order to understand the instructors. According to the education legislation this is illegal. It discriminates against all foreign languages immigrants(French, German, Vietnamese, Indian, Chinese et all) and favors those that speak Spanish. Further it is illegal to provide bi-lingual instructor to only the Spanish kids. Paraphrasing , It is discrimination to provide any service available in the program to any recipient in a manner that is different than provided to any other recipient. Meaning that if you provide bi-lingual Spanish-English instructors then you must provide bi-lingual Chinese-English instructors as well.
I have already retained a lawyer. Katie will not be bused out of her home school district without a fight.
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Gerry you might have a real fight on your hands with this. There is big money is bussing children to a special English teaching program in a school district. It is Federal money and school systems all over the country fight for this. This is a large part of my income. I transport 15 children everyday to and from school to a special ESOL program. I have an aid that rides with me to watch the children. Between the two of us we make almost $30.00 per hour at approximately $180.00 a day. That is just our wages. Then you have the expense of the bus. $80.00 in fuel everyday. Maintenance on the bus monthly. There are 4 busses in the school I serve that do this.
Out of the 15 students I carry everyday only 4 really need it. The others do quite well. They could use a little tutoring is all. We even have programs for that.
That is just transportation. A first year ESOL teacher begins at $60,000.00 a year. The school I serve has 3 teachers. The one I that teaches my kids is a 20 year veteran. My guess is that she is drawing $72,000.00 a year.
There is huge money in this. You are treading on a cash cow.
I'm not telling you leave this alone I am just telling you what you are up against. The school system has lawyer for this too. The money is too important.
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My attorney believes that the funding for the ENTIRE ESL program (provided by the US department of education) is a much bigger cash cow than local contracts for school busing. And if there is no ESL funding there is no need for busing and there goes both cash cows.
There are legislation and rules within the education act that prohibit discrimination based on race or national origin. The act describes discrimination in detail. Providing a service to one receiver of a benefit that is provided differently to another receiver of the benefit is considered discrimination. My attorney believes that providing a bi-lingual instructor to a Spanish speaking student and not providing the same to a Chinese speaking student falls under this definition.
The question is this.
Does the school and school district want to to fight this at all? Do they want to go to court? Do they want to risk loosing funding for the entire ESL program ? ( believe me, with the number of Mexican immigrants here, it is HUGE). All for the sake of sending one single Chinese girl out of the school district. If I was the superintendent of the school district I wouldn't. I would stop it before it got started. And if it ever got to court I would ream the ass of the school principle that made it that big of an issue.
We will see. I think all it will take is a well worded letter from my attorney.
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Gerry logic would say that you are right but you need to remember you are dealing with an government agency. They think they are smarter than you and your attorney. They think they know more of what you need than you do. It wouldn't surprise me to see this go to court because in their mind they are right.
Your attorney is correct in his thinking that this cash cow is much larger than the local school system. I only gave you one angle of this. The one I know the most about. The whole special needs program in the school system is like this. It is sickening but while it continues I work for it because it is good money for me.
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I politely disagree.
It is like saying that it is OK to force some blacks to ride on the rear of the bus as long as somewhere in the state you allow at least one black to ride in the front. There is no loophole. The wording of the law is very clear. If the state provides a service to one individual that is different than the service provided to any another, they are in violation of the discrimination provisions of the education act.
If they have a program ANYWHERE in the state then they MUST provide the same program to any others EVERYWHERE in the state. And most certainly if everyone is in the same school district.
I am not trying to bring down the establishment. I am trying to prevent my daughter from being transferred to another school. To do that I am trying to think as though I were the superintendent of schools , not the local school principle. The superintendent did not get his position by displays of his ego and testosterone. He got there by using his head in problem resolution to better his career. I don't think for one minute he will allow this nasty little accusation to see the light of day.
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Opinion withdrawn.
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I went to a school district meeting tonight. The topic was English learning program. After the meeting I pulled aside the superintendent of the ELL program and had a talk about federal budgets and if all schools received the same funding for ELL programs.
The answer was a big yes. Then I asked why then did Katie's school claim that they did not have budget to teach her English. And why did she need to be bused to another school where they had an ESL program. She was appalled. She said they can't do that ! The federal government provides funding for every student that requires ELL. She said I should tell the principle of the school that I wanted her to hire an ELL instructor just for Katie. If there was any push back what so ever that I should call her and she would handle it from there. I think I will just copy her on the email that I write to the principle and skip the part about the push back.
opinions welcome.
should I send it as-is?
should I copy the superintendent?
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I have given a considerable amount of thought to your suggestions and what, [ I think ] is the best decision for Katie. I have done some research on Federal Funding for ELL and also the ELL program in the SVVSD.
Let me begin by saying that I chose Imagine Charter school because of the school’s size and the small town atmosphere associated with Firestone. As a parent of two Chinese immigrant children I know that it is the best situation for new immigrants. Her grades show me that she is doing excellent work and her report card was much better than I hoped for (As and Bs) . Her math skill are levels above what she is being taught now and she has received special recognition from her English teacher. And her science fair project was judged near perfect. This shows her dedication to push herself forward to achieve.
I don’t believe that moving her to another school within the District simply because they have a higher ELL population would serve Katie’s education or our family's needs well. At Imagine she is immersed in English and is surrounded by English speaking students and English speaking friends. I think that moving her and putting her in an environment where everyone speaks a language other than English is not a step forward in her English acquisition, but in fact may slow her progress.
She is already fluent in two languages and is well on her way in English. Her progress is excellent and I believe that it is because of my decision to place her in Imagine school as well as the friendships she has made with the other students there. I know learning a new language is difficult and at times she will struggle but she is a remarkably fast learner and I am sure that by working with her myself, and leaving her in Imagine is the correct decision.
I want to thank you for your concern and alerting me to the programs that are available for her but I will, at this time, decline the offer to allow her to attend the ELL program in another school.
I do however, request that you apply for what ever Federal funding that is available to implement an ELL program for grades 6-8 that would provide for Katie's ELL needs. And not just the "younger grades".
Respectfully, Gerard Pineau
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I think it sounds very good as is, at least for now. I dont think that pitting the superintendent aganist the school princple would be the best for you or Katie. I would see what their response is and go from there.
In my experince butting heads with school officals, and mine alone, is she might be telling you what you want to hear and allready be in contact with the school to try to resolve this matter. I assume she is the superintendent of the school your kids attend? I would give them a chance to respond and see what they say but you cant be jerked around for long buy your EMPLOYEE'S. If they dont tell you what you want to hear then go to the next level.
Just my opinon I am curious to see what others say and how you come out.
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Thanks Kenny.
I just sent it after reading your reply. I removed the supers email from the cc list and replaced the word "you" with school to make it less personal for her.
A word about English instruction in China. Terrible!
If you are going to pay for ESL classes for your kid in China, make sure the instructor is a native English speaker or at least been immersed in the English language. Katie was taught many wrong pronunciations and also flawed grammar and in many cases just plain incorrect English. Chinese teaching English to Chinese students is just not right.
Katie arrived here full of confidence and when placed in school she was surprised and distraught that she was so deficient in her English skills. I have been working with her and engage her in conversation whenever possible. When she gets home from school she comes to me and tells me all about her day and what was her favorite event at school. She reads to me 5 pages from a book containing short English phrases used in conversation and I correct her mistakes. It is amazing the change in her since she first got here. Her confidence is back and she is not afraid to engage in conversation or read out loud in the classroom. I am very proud of her continued hard work.
oh! And she eats like a horse and she grew another foot! Puberty is accelerating :-(
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Good luck Gerry.
I disagree. I have worked for 7 different superintendents. I don't trust one of them. They are politicians. They will lie to you in a heart beat. It wouldn't surprise me that you will be denied. I've seen things go well for parents but I've seen more, many more things go wrong.
You need to remember they think they are smarter than everyone else and they know what is better for your child than you do.
One short story. I moved to the community that I am in now several years ago. We selected the school we wanted our children to go to. I called the transportation department to make sure we knew where we needed to live for that school. They gave me a map. I found a house, enrolled my children and on the first day of school the bus took my children to another school. My daughter phoned me from the new school. I went to the school, took my map generated by the transportation department and talked to the principal. The principal told me that I would have to send my daughter to the new school.
I met with the superintendent and showed him my delemia and he agreed with me. Then......
I asked for a meeting with the superintendent, the principal and the head of transportation. I was surprised because they agreed to it. We met, the transportation official presented a new map, I pulled out my old map, she denied it and said she gave me the map she had in her possession. I asked her where my map came from with the school system logo on it and she said she didn't know. The end result was that I could let my children ride the school bus to the newer school or I could take the children to the school we chose by myself. Ironically a bus drove by my house into a subdivision behind me for the old school but they would not allow my children to get on it. So for 6 years I drove my children to school except when they began to drive themselves. And I work for that school system.
I hope you win but I have serious doubts.
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Shaun, it is tragic what they did to you. I am sorry for that and it makes me suspicious of all good news. But I have been like this for years. I am like you I don't trust anyone. I am cynical and mistrusting for good reason but when ever I let my guard down I learn again that I should not ever let my guard down. I never trust anyone and I bitch with a loud voice.
Well could be a trick but she put it in writing.
Just now received: From the principle.
Thank you for your kind email, Gerard. I very much appreciate your well thought out decision making process.
We certainly enjoy having Katie at our school and will continue to partner with you in her education.
Have a wonderful weekend.
And from the English teacher::
Jerry,
Katie is doing very well. I am, of course, modifying her independent work, but I'm still impressed by her work ethic and the rapidity with which she is learning new material. I will continue to do my best to help Katie move forward in her acquisition of the English language.
Thanks for your support,
Teresa xxxx
7/8 English
Maybe it's because I am always in bluejeans and sneakers, she thought that I would listen to her every word and believe it. I think the principle realized that I am not a stupid man that didn't finish school. Now she knows that I can read and research the education act and I know more about the federal funding available than she does.
I now think that I have won this battle but I will not relax for a while. Maybe at the end of the school year.
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On a lighter note....Today is Valentines Day.
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This has been so long and costly. I am afraid to add it all up. But the filing fees, immigration fees, translation fees, medical exams, immunizations, paying for two households at once, airline tickets, and excess baggage, shipping and two years in China.
Katie finally got her green card in the mail.
Now I think that was the last hurdle and the last check I have to write.
It was worth it.....Thank God.
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This has been so long and costly. I am afraid to add it all up. But the filing fees, immigration fees, translation fees, medical exams, immunizations, paying for two households at once, airline tickets, and excess baggage, shipping and two years in China.
Katie finally got her green card in the mail.
Now I think that was the last hurdle and the last check I have to write.
It was worth it.....Thank God.
Great to hear! Glad everything has finally come back to normalcy and all is done!
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What's it like now days for getting a visitors VISA for a 40 yo Chinese lady? Last time I tried it (about 6 years ago) it was denied straight away without even an interview.
We have been discussing one of Fiona's best friends coming for a visit this summer. She is married with children, Owns two houses (one is rented out) and has a fair amount of money in the bank.
What do you think her chances are?
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Gerry Not good. I tried to help one of my wife's friends get a visitor's visa about 3 years ago. She didn't have any luck either. She hit all the boxes with high marks. She owns 4 houses a store her own car. She has 2 jobs and a huge bank account. And has done international travel to Canada, Australia, New Zealand, And Japan. They still denied her a travel visa. Even with my assurance that she would return to China.
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That sucks. I thought Obama was going to remove some of the hurdles.
This happened in 2012. Long after my last attempt.
http://world.time.com/2012/01/19/with-an-eye-on-the-u-s-economy-obama-will-make-it-easier-for-brazilian-chinese-tourists-to-get-visas/ (http://world.time.com/2012/01/19/with-an-eye-on-the-u-s-economy-obama-will-make-it-easier-for-brazilian-chinese-tourists-to-get-visas/)
The Chinese have got a lot of cash, Might as well let them spend it here.
Kind of ironic. Go to America for vacation and buy some price inflated souvenirs that were made in Chinese factories and shipped to America for retail sales. Wait! That's a great idea sell back to them the cheap stuff they shipped here for 5 times what they sold it to us and then charge them excess baggage fees when they return home with it. Brilliant Obama!
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Gerry, Might as well give it a shot. The application only costs $ 160 and she can interview and possibly receive a tourist visa. If she does not apply the answer is a definite no.
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Hot damn ! A little bragging right here.
I just got this in my email.
Hello All,
We want to invite you to the Honor Roll Assembly to be held in the multipurpose room next Thursday, March 27, at 9 am. Your child has worked so hard 3rd Quarter and has achieved Honor Roll status. If you are able to attend, wonderful. But if you can't, please extend our congratulations and commendations to your child at home, for their hard work third quarter and encourage them to finish the year just as strong! We are in the final chapter of this year.
Jessica Cervantes and the Middle School Team
Imagine Charter School - Firestone
And this is the kid the principle wanted to ship off for special classes in English... ;D
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congratulations to your daughter!
work ethic....Ziwei same they just dont quit.
I guess we should congratulate you too Gerry!
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Congratulations to you, Fiona, and of course, Katie.
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I am absolutely livid about this. My daughter had to calm me down.
My sweet granddaughter was attacked by a a neighbors Rottweiler. She had to go to the hospital in an ambulance. She is doing well now but looking at what the dog did to her pretty little face makes me want to kill the dog and beat the owner to an inch of his life.
The doctors say it will heal but it will definitely leave scars. She is lucky that her mom was only feet away and intervened. I hate to vent here but I am nearly in tears every time I look at the photos my daughter sent..
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Gerry I'm so sorry to hear this. I know it isn't any comfort but they will probably put the dog down. And fine the owner. And make him pay all the bills for your granddaughter. My hope for your granddaughter is a complete and quick recovery.
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They are terrible pictures Gerry. I cannot imagine what that little girl went through during the attack.
In the UK the dog owner would have no choice in the matter. The dog would be destroyed and the owner taken to a criminal court. Period.
Willy
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Gerry hope yur garnd daughter gets better soon mate...and he don't get too may nightmares about it...YIP Dog should be put down WITH the owner
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Same here Gerry. Sorry it happened and I'm sure it will he dealt with.
By the way, if you don't mind me asking, whatever happened to the school issue concerning your daughter and the school they wanted to send her to? Just curious.
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Shaun,
I went to the school district and spoke with the person in charge of English acquisition. Told her that Katie was progressing very well in the environment that I put her in and I would refuse to let her be bused to another school to learn Spanglish.. She agreed with me.
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Hi Gerry
I do love to hear of entrepreneurial ideas in any form. What Katie is doing is such an unusual way of fund raising that I will have one done for a friend of mine.
The name is Roberto Mini McVitie da Liddle Bairn O'Donnell. I call him Scots Robbie for SHORT!!! Others call him many things but that I cannot comment on!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe one day we will be able to collect his name is Chinese Characters in person.
In the meantime I have asked Robbie, when he wakes up, to send her a little something, via you, from a paypal account of mine that we share for work purposes. Not only should new entrepreneurial ideas be encouraged it also has enabled me to lighten in my mind what has been a pretty traumatic week on the forum.
Willy
PS. Just what history is there in Washington???
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I think that is a wonderful idea. And maybe Willy will pay for mine also. (He seems loaded...)
I am looking ahead and concerned how my daughter will do with English. She is 8 and is learning it in school but seems reluctant to speak it with me.
I don't pressure her too much , yet, and I know that she has to learn how to share her mother with me. Her father has never really been involved in her life, from what I can tell, so having a man around is different, especially when he talks "funny."
I was wondering, Gerry, how well your daughter spoke English before coming to the US?
Also, sorry to hear about your grand daughter. I hope the dog was put down. It crossed that line and will again if not dealt with.
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Speaking of English...why is it that Hong adds an "a" to the end of words? She calls me Chrisa, but my favorite is and she speaks with great distinction is: Obama...NO GOODA!!! ;D
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Yes my wife also adds the aah to the end of many words: meata,my son Craiga - usually any english word ending in a d or t gets the extra ah sound
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First, Thanks for your support.
While in China we got glowing reports about her English skills. But there was trouble. She learned to speak English from People that don't normally speak English. I think the teacher in her school did not have enough English skills to be teaching. As a result Katie learned many things wrong. Her pronunciation was not acceptable and when I was talking I would have to repeat myself several times or use a different word that she understood. So all the money spent on boarding school did not buy much in her foreign language department. But all her other subjects were good and she hit the ground running when she got here. She is way ahead of her class in most everything else. Her progress is amazing . She can read-write and comprehend her English lessons much better now although she still struggles with new words.
The end of the word ending in ahh is typically a Cantonese thing but I have seen some Mandarin speakers use it too. It has a falling tone and it is not officially part of the language and is never written. But everyone does it. Even the primp and proper News announcers. It softens a sentence and keeps if from ending abruptly. I have always thought that Cantonese was a harsh language because so many words and phrases come to a abrupt ending. The ahh that they add to the end softens it. Don't you think? But there are some people that over do it and instead of softening a sentenance it makes them sound like they are whining ahhhhh.
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That makes a lot of sense Gerry, and yes I heard the whining ahh too. :-X
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My wife says Ah! especially when she sees me getting ready for bed at night. Or could it be argh??? ;D ;D
Willy
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Katie is an A student now and made the honor roll this last school period. She is now working doing fund raising to pay for a trip to Washington DC with her US history class. She will be going out this weekend with a calligraphy brush, ink well and parchment door to door to sell " Your Name in Chinese characters" for $3.00. She has about 6 months to raise $1800.00 I hope she makes it.
Mods, you are welcome to delete this last sentence.
Anyone, if you would like to help her get to Washington DC.....my paypal account is gpineau2010@hotmail.com
Katie, Fiona and I thank you for your Generous contributions,
Scots Robbie
Willy
and anonymous donators.
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Another Report from the school...
Hello again,
We have come to the final character awards assembly of the year. It will be May 15 at 9am in the multi-purpose room. Your child has been chosen as an exemplar of the character and values we share and promote at Imagine. If you are able to attend and congratulate your child, you are welcome. If not, please share our congratulations with them at home. It is because of the values you model, that your children display these at school. We appreciate, very much, that you have chosen to partner with us to grow your child.
Jessica Cervantes
7th and 8th Math Teacher
Imagine Charter School - Firestone
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Gerry it sounds like Katie has just taken off, and has adapted well to a new country and a new school system. ;D congrats to you and Katie and your wife.
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I second what Maxx said.
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Thanks guys. I am actually surprised how quickly she is catching on.
School is out Friday and I am glad. Today she got the final grade for her science project. The project was to build a catapult. Launch a tennis ball 50 feet and hit a target. It was great fun in the gym with about 30 kids with all different designs of catapults. The most bizarre was one made entirely of broomsticks tied together with string. (but it worked good)
She and her classmate hit the target on first try. But they only got a 95 on the grade because the catapult weighed 0.6 pounds over the 20 pound limit. I wish I had checked it before she took it to school.
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Fiona and I are in New Jersey this week. Going to show her around the "roots" of America and get her some exposure to American heritage. And the real purpose is to meet up with Irish guy and Lisa toward the end of the week. We are meeting Lisa this morning in New York and taking a whirlwind tour of Manhattan. Going straight to the WTC and the Statue of liberty then try to squeeze in as many other sights as she has time for.
Pat, I guess you had to work, so see you in Delaware in 4 days.
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From science project (LAUNCH) to projected dinner date (LUNCH) in Delaware with Irish guy, you keep keeping us updated with great pictures and adventures. Can't wait to see what feast for eyes the weekend will bring.
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Fiona and I are in New Jersey this week. Going to show her around the "roots" of America and get her some exposure to American heritage. And the real purpose is to meet up with Irish guy and Lisa toward the end of the week. We are meeting Lisa this morning in New York and taking a whirlwind tour of Manhattan. Going straight to the WTC and the Statue of liberty then try to squeeze in as many other sights as she has time for.
Pat, I guess you had to work, so see you in Delaware in 4 days.
Yes, I had to work. But Lisa and Amy had a great time. Thanks to taking them around New York!
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Had a great time. Amy didn't want to leave I think.
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Katie is not having much (any) luck with her fund raising. She is going online.
here is her website. http://katiepeng.yolasite.com/ (http://katiepeng.yolasite.com/)
If you think you would like to help her out she would really appreciate it.
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Wow looks like everyone has gone to sleep , no posts since the 12 th , regards Robert .
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I have been using shutterfly for the past year. I began using it as just a place to store photos so they wouldnt get lost. But they have a lot of features for building websites and photo albums for groups. And its all free as long as you buy one product a year from them.
Check this out.
https://fionafeifei.shutterfly.com/
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Enjoy looking through your pictures. I look forward to going back to Shenyang someday and visit Linda's family. I think I look forward to going more than her or Ziwei.
I will say that the pic of your wife standing on the arm's of the wood chair in front of the window made me quiver a little bit. These women are fearless!
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HaHa! I don't know if she is fearless or just stupid. She does things like that. She reaches for a power tools I am using (while they are still rotating) to show me she can do it better and crazy stuff like that. She takes a lot of chances. I don't know how she has survived this long without serious injury.
Thanks for the compliments on the photos. I really like that website and I am liking it more as I learnt how to use it. You can create albums and showcase them as a website and include links to other albums. Add a blog and comments section. Its great for photo sharing with the family and like I said its is free if you purchase a photo book or some other product every year.
Speaking of going back to China. I never thought I would say this but I sort of miss it. The noise, the people, the smell of food cooking by the sidewalk vendors. All sorts of things come to mind. Especially the friends I made in Guangzhou. I may take a trip just to get it out of my system. I know after a month there I will be anxious to come back home.
My son has taken a liking to southern China. He has been going back to Shenzhen about once every couple of months. Stays a couple of weeks then comes back home. So far it has been all work and no socializing ( or very little). I am going to laugh at him after some Shenzhen beauty takes his breath away and he cant wait to to go back to see her again. Like father like son I guess.
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My wife is the same way, she will watch me do something or let me show her how and within an hour she is an expert and is telling me a better way to do it. She worked on the farm when she was younger but it is done different here, and she just wont let it sink in, but she has a large flower garden and works in it everyday and keeps it looking so pretty.
I do look forward to a trip back to China but not sure how we can work it in with the work here and Ziwei school. We go to a chinese buffet couple times a month in a town 20 mile north and she has become very good friends with the owner's and girls that work there. They mentioned taking a bus trip to China town in New York. You ever been there? I dont think I would like to drive to New York City and try to get around (patience thing again) but I have never been on a bus trip either, hell just a few years ago I had never been anywhere now I talk about going back to China. I just wander what a trip like that would be like, it would probably cost about as much but would be eaiser to work in right now. What do you think or has anybody else been there?
I would like to do something to get Linda away for a few days, if I could get her talked into it, I think she is as much of a homebody as I am. It is just something I have thought about the last year or so. We attended a Chinese festival in indianapolis last fall but it was so small that she doesnt think she wants to go this year. I was just curious about your thoughts or anybody else's.
I was also curious about what kind of work your son does to travel to China so much? I think you are right though, sooner or later he will he will fall for a china beauty, how could he not? (god help him)
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I absolutely have been to China town in New your city. We did a one week speed site-seeing tour Just about a month ago. Where are you. If your taking a long trip you might as well stay the night and see the stature of liberty.
My wife and i went to New York to meet up with Irishman and my old friend Lisa from Shunde. I swear there is a small town where we me up with another of Fiona's classmates the look amazing like Guangzhou. It's freaky, one minute your in New York city traffic and the next you think your in China. Its called Flushing. About 5 miles east of LaGuardia airport. If you get a chance go out to eat there.
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Kenny,
remember when I said I don't know if she is fearless or just stupid.
well tonight I figured that one out.
Here is the short version. She comes home with and empty tank of gas and says I need to teach her how to put gas in her car.
So off to the gas station. Ok
1. pull along side the pump.
2. Remove gas cap and put it somewhere safe so not to forget it.
3. Scan your rewards card for discounts.
4. Select pay outside and scan credit card.
5. Remove nozzle, place in car and pull the trigger wait for it to click off.
She did all that remarkably well.
6. So when the pump clicks off and it's time to return the nozzle to pump, were standing there and she has the pump nozzle in her hand and its pointed straight at my chest. And I am talking to her about what to do next. I don't know if it was a stray gamma ray hit her in the head or just a random thought that asked " I wonder what happens if you pull the trigger when the nozzle is not in the car?" . But 3 seconds later I am drenched in gasoline and ready to pass out from the fumes that engulfed me. Then I think,, oh my god! fumes! Any minute I am going to become a blazing inferno with legs.
I scream at her get in the car! Drove home well above the speed limit, Stripped naked, ran upstairs and jumped into the shower. All is well now but I should carry a spare pacemaker in the glove box.
now I am betting it must have been a stray gamma ray, because to have a random thought implies that you have a brain and I am sure she left it in China.
Sigh... :-[
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O M G She could have lit up your life for evermore, literally.
Any spark from the car could have had dire consequences.
We are certainly pleased to see that you could write about it.
Willy
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hahaha I just read your story and then read it to Linda and we both laughed to tears.
It is funny but I have been doing this same thing here, teaching her and Ziwei how to fill their tank. I will remember to stand way back from now on.
It is good you are ok, thank god you arent a smoker.
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Gerry,
think of it this way..
it could have been a very abrupt ending to your highly successful 'end of the road' thread.
so I am happy for you that your health is fine, at least your physical being.
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I am suffering from amnesia.
Today a reminder popped up on my calendar. It simply said file for adjustment of status and nothing more.
Fiona has a 10 year green card so I cant imagine why I would put that reminder there. Se is getting close to her two year anniversary but since she has a 10 year card I don't see a need to file adjustment of status.
Can anyone pull me out of my brain fog and shed some light on this?
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I am suffering from amnesia.
Today a reminder popped up on my calendar. It simply said file for adjustment of status and nothing more.
Fiona has a 10 year green card so I cant imagine why I would put that reminder there. Se is getting close to her two year anniversary but since she has a 10 year card I don't see a need to file adjustment of status.
Can anyone pull me out of my brain fog and shed some light on this?
Gerry, if you remember it was very close to your marriages 2 year mark when she was approved and you did not know if she would be given a 2-year card (CR-1) or the 10 year card (IR-1). I would check the expiration dates on both of their cards just to be certain though. I think it was just you being cautious and covering all your bases after the fiasco you went through with USCIS.
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Gerry I think Robert is right. The ten year green cars isn't standard operating procedure. For first time green card holders.
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Never ending journey.
http://youtu.be/BUGksRLQufs (http://youtu.be/BUGksRLQufs)
Playing with movie maker again. ;)
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Well I didn't file for Adjustment of Status and they did not send a SWAT team to collect her green card so I guess I was just being overly cautious when I put it on my calendar.
A do recall that the last week in Guangzhou I realized we would return to the States one day shy of our two ear anniversary and that was the rule for getting a ten year green card. So I re-booked the tickets to make sure we we had celebrated our two years of marriage before setting foot on US soil . Thinking I had followed the rules and she would get her ten year card I was told by the immigration officer in Los Angeles that she would only get a two year card and not a ten year card. I think that is how the reminder got on my calendar. Dumb-ass immigration guys didn't even know the rules because when her card arrived it was a ten year card.
So Robert was right again.
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I have been lazy about up dates but it has been too long. Well its been almost two years since she arrived here and a lot has happened. She went back to China and brought back Katie, she graduated from ESL school, she has her drivers license and she is now working for 90 days. She has a GPS that speaks Cantonese and can find her way all the way to Denver and home again.
She remarks every day how lucky she is and how great America is. When a person grows up in China, they hear stories of America and life here. Good stories and happily ever after stories and terrible stories of exploitation. It was with great anxiety and mixed emotion that Fiona got on that plane and followed me home. I have never given her a reason to regret it. And secretly Katie and her talk about how wonderful I am to them. She is living her dream and I can see it in her face. It makes me feel wonderful to know that I have made such a difference in this woman's life. She loves being here and only misses her Guangzhou food. She loves the mountains. We are at the base of the rocky mountains and if you look to the west from our place you can see the snow covered caps less than an hour away. We go up there every chance we get.
I have a QQ blog entitled Guangzhou girls in the USA. I have quite a following. My blog will be almost as dormant as this forum until I post an update, photo, or a video of Fiona, me and Katie. Then I will be visited by a hundred or more women full of curiosity about our life story here in the US. She is the envy of many of her friends and she took great joy in speaking to her ex husband and telling him how good I am to his daughter and that they are living in her dream house. Normally I would not approve of that, but he so much deserves to have his nose rubbed in it after he abandoned them when Katie was born. (This is a big house. Honestly our master bedroom suite is bigger than the house she had in Guangzhou)
Katie is doing well in school. Her English is much better and she has made a lot of friends. She volunteers for fund raisers at the school to raise money for her class trip to Washington DC. I am nearly paid up on the cost of the trip and only have two more installments and it is all paid for. So Next April she will be touring the historical sites made famous by our forefathers. Quite an education for a 13 year girl from Guangzhou. She still comes to see me every day after school to tell me what happened at school and what she learned. She has grown about a foot and is a tall slender Chinese teenage girl.
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Two years passed by all ready! I can imagine just how fast they seem to go. However I find that the older you get the faster time seems to goes by. Sometimes I wonder what it will be like to have a really boring life so that time will slow down! :'(
It sounds as if you are all settled in for a contented good life ahead of you.
Your story is one that will fill the heart of many present and future readers.
Willy
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Hahaha...panic phone call..
Gerry, the police man wants proof of insurance document. Where is it?
Well that's how it started but she brought home a pink ticket for failure to yield to and emergency vehicle. Damn. there goes the insurance rates. Seems she went past a police man who was stopped to give someone a ticket and she didn't change lanes. That's pretty lame since she did not hit him or do anything but maybe scare him. But that the law an its going to cost her her Christmas money.
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Really??? Sounds like that cop was having a bad day...
If that was here, I would go fight it in court. It should only cost you a few hours, and if the cop doesn't show, the ticket is almost always thrown out. Even if he does show, simply stating that it was not safe for her to change lanes should get it thrown anyway. Difficult to prove either way, but the judge should side with your wife, unless the cop has dashcam footage or some irrefutable evidence.
Of course, I Am Not A Lawyer, but I've had a ticket or two thrown out for the same reason.
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Fell off a cliff 4 years ago today>> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=816109218427305&set=a.351851351519763.78654.100000847042375&type=1&theater
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Four down and many many more to go.
Congratulations.
Willy
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Congratulations on the big day.
All the best
Kenny
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Fiona is so happy with herself.
She got promoted from part time to full time. Got a 60 cent raise and now has full benefits, medical insurance and 401 retirement matching funds. I'm pretty happy about it too. So proud of her.
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Katie's birthday today on the first day of spring.
She met her goal and is going on the history class field trip to Washington DC at the end of this month.
This kid amazes me. She grew a foot (not exaggerating) since she arrived. Tall and slender and she is still growing. She is taller than her mom and the same as me. She now wears the same size shoes as me too. She made honor roll twice more and is studying LATIN of all things.
She is fluent in English, Mandarin, and Cantonese already, but who wants to be fluent in Latin?
and the worst part is she is changing from a little girl into a young lady. In the next few years I am going to be chasing young boys away like varmints.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUGksRLQufs
A little fun. Ask your wife to translate.
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Katie's birthday today on the first day of spring.
She met her goal and is going on the history class field trip to Washington DC at the end of this month.
This kid amazes me. She grew a foot (not exaggerating) since she arrived. Tall and slender and she is still growing. She is taller than her mom and the same as me. She now wears the same size shoes as me too. She made honor roll twice more and is studying LATIN of all things.
She is fluent in English, Mandarin, and Cantonese already, but who wants to be fluent in Latin?
and the worst part is she is changing from a little girl into a young lady. In the next few years I am going to be chasing young boys away like varmints.
Gerry, I know you are very proud of her and her mother and all of their hard work since arriving in the USA. I have 2 teenage daughters at home now so I will go ahead and give you something that will normally inform the would be suitors of your feelings about your daughter. I have handed a few of these out myself and it is hilarious to watch the expressions on the boy's face. I have this printed on a T-shirt for trips to the mall with my daughters.
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My eldest stepdaughter arrived back from the Spring Holiday and has now moved in with her boyfriend.
I say moved in that is days off only (as far as we know) ???. Her job provides accomodation during her working week.
But at 26 it had to happen sooner or later.
I wish Katie well on her Washington Trip - she worked hard to get there.
Willy
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Well the trip has happened. Katie was so excited when she got home but soon collapsed into bed. So tired she went back to bed after breakfast. Still sound asleep at 1:30 pm. I am anxious for her to wake up and start telling me the stories.
Thanks to all who supported Katie to raise funds for the trip to DC.
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School is out and Katie is promoted to High school next semester. They grow up so fast.
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It's good she is getting to be as tall as you - you need height for High School - here's hoping for a wonderful summer.
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Thanks to all who supported Katie to raise funds for the trip to DC.
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I am pleased to hear that she enjoyed it and very educational. Is it the America air that's making her grow so fast.
Just wondering if this would be a good time to start a collection for a trip I want to make to Las Vegas?
Willy
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All star and Another raise.
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Congrats to Fiona again!
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Yes great news. Sorry that her store is a little to far away for me to do some shopping there, but great to see her making progress.
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She still needs to work on her reading and writing comprehension and also she needs a lot of work on her pronunciation. But she is always so cheerful and funny everyone likes her.
Chinese cant say river without slurring it into liver.
I finally taught her to say peanuts. ( break it into two words . pea-nuts) not peanus.
Are you free tomorrow? will get you a puzzled look.
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Day trip to the mountains. Great day doing nothing in the mountains. got a little lunch, pretended to pan for gold and dug up some rocks in the river for polishing. Beautiful weather and beautiful drive.
The mountains are her favorite place to go. I think she woudl choose it over shopping. haha
This looks best in full screen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9lNAw4ryT4
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Very nice!
I would damn sure take it over shopping.
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Sooo
ME:- You should go get some of the potatoes from the garden.
HER: There aren't any.!
ME: There should be,,,did you look?
HER: Yes the trees are almost dead.
ME: Sigh......They are under the potato plants. You need to dig them up.!
Apparently she was thinking potatoes grow on the plants similar to my tomatoes. So we went and " picked" some potatoes.. Life is so much fun living with someone as crazy as you are.
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I just had an idea. Fiona is ALWAYS full of questions. som are serious and others are plain stupid. But Sometime I get angry at her for asking the same thing a hundredth time. This device will answer most anything and apparently can understand foreign accents and I hope broken English.
So i have been looking at the Amazon Echo. I think I have an excuse now for buying one. I will just sit it in some central location and see if its patience is better than mine.
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I got me a couple of new toys to keep me occupied while the ladies are at work/school.
MY TOYS HAVE BEEN COMMANDEERED !!!
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Those are nice! I bought myself one of those toys back in April.
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very nice.....i noticed the log chain around the rear tire. Paranoid?
I have not ridden since I was a teen and at my age I cant do some of the things that were easy back then. The bike that Fiona is on is way too tall for me. And friken heavy. If it leans over more than 30 degrees...its going over. I am going to sell it and get a Smaller one.
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I wouldn't say paranoid, I prefer to call it anti-criminal enabling behavior. My wife works full-time, I work practically all the time, and my teenage children are in school all day so a little added security never hurts. Most criminals are scared to death of an honest days work so I want to make it as hard as possible for them in their chosen career path. If my Rottweiler-Siberian Husky mix was still alive I wouldn't even bother locking the gate, but that is another story.
Concerning your situation about your bike's height, have you ever sat on a cruiser? Most cruisers have a very low center of gravity and are very comfortable on long rides also. I believe my bike's seat sits at 25" which makes it very easy too handle even at low speeds. You go to the Yamaha shop and checkout the V-Stars,they are very dependable bikes and are affordable unlike some of the Harley's can be! My last bike was a Harley Davidson 1200 Sportster which I had sold about 23 years ago. I purchased this one after checking prices on bikes and decided this one was more bang for the buck. This bike is a Yamaha 1600 " Silverado " Roadstar. It is completely stock except for the stereo I installed and the exhaust system.
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Any used bike you purchase in Colorado you will have to spend another $450 to have the carbs rebuilt. They are not jetted correctly for this altitude and the 10% ethanol they put in the gasoline will plug them up in a week of sitting idle. I start mine every day and am starting to use aviation 97 octane gas in them.
I was looking for a Honda Magna 1100cc Because the seat sits @ 25.5 inches. That is very comfortable for me and the center of gravity is down low. But I could not find a reasonable deal on one. So I got the Sabre instead. I have regretted it. The seat is 31.5 inches .I am standing on my tiptoes...Just sitting and rocking side to side is enough to cause me to strain to keep it from going over. And when it goes over it is 5 minutes to get it upright again. Clearly it is designed for a tall man.
So my next choice was the Honda Shadow. The seat is @ 29 inches and I can manhandle it into standing up straight and flatfoot at a stoplight. I should have taken all my crazy money and purchased a good cruiser and be done with it. But I was thinking of cutting some corners so I could end up wit two bikes. One for the road and one for in town. Well I will get more than my money back on the Sabre and then go shopping again.
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Been wheeling and dealing on bikes all summer and fall. So I ended up with a Honda 750 Shadow for cruising (love it). and a Honda CM400 fast light weight bike for running around town. And a yamaha Majesty 400 for the wife. I have been rebuilding and tuning carbs till I am blue in the face. But Finally everything is running great. I got some time to ride them just before the cold weather hit. Now they are all parked in the garage until next spring.
Now for a personal update. During most of those 5 years I have been in very poor health. I was hospitalized 3 times in Guangzhou due to bursting blood vessels in my stomach. I never mentioned before now that I have been in end stage liver failure for a long time but I have only known about it for about 4 years. Since returning to America I have had to have many chemo treatments to try to keep cancer from taking over what was left of my liver.
On November 10 I received a call from Porter Adventist hospital. They said that they had accepted a donated liver on my behalf. What a shock, surprise and ominous call to answer. I called my wife and told her to come home immediately we rushed to the hospital and I nervously waited for the surgeon to declare that the liver was a good match for me. As they rolled me to the operating room I looked at the doctor and said I place my trust in you. Please make a thorough check and make sure that I live long enough to repay my wife for all she has done for me.
The next 2 weeks were horrible. Paranoia, hallucinations, and severe pain , mostly due to the medications they were giving me. I have lost 30 pounds and I think I look like a ghost. But most everyone else says I look good. I am feeling weak, short of breath and faint but the Doctors say it is normal and that I am doing great. It will be 6 months before I feel "good" again.
Today is my five year marriage anniversary. Yep, December 10 2010 we went to the marriage bureau in Guangzhou and tied the knot. Through all these ordeals Fiona has been at my bedside the whole time. always there, to lift me, turn me over, hold my urine bottle, clean my mess, hand feed me and change my clothes. I could see in her face how exhausted she was, how utterly overwhelmed she was. But she never faltered. Take me to the toilet, put me in the shower walk me to the car and take me to the Dr appointments. She deserves a very good vacation.
Wife, lover, friend, confidant and nurse, I could search for a hundred years and not find a woman that compares to my wife. I mean that with all my heart.
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Well Happy Anniversary to you and Fiona and sorry to read about your health problems but sound like you are on the road to recovery. Maybe you will feel well enough to ride your bikes come spring.
It sounds like your wife is a great help and that is because she loves you as well. She sounds allot like Linda, my dad has some health issues and she is always taking them food and helping in any way she can. Good women are hard to find as you know, we are lucky to have them and shows it was worth the risk and effort we put into these relationships so far away.
Keep us upated on your progress and take that wife on the vacation of her dreams. Good Luck to you both.
Kenny
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May the gift of this season's blessing be upon you and your family, with your health returning in full strength. Happy anniversary to you, Pineau and Fiona - With hopes that the new Year's cycle allows you to get off of your cycle of drugs and medication and on to the recently purchased cycles as the two of you roar down that high way of life:
Life is a highway
I want to ride it all night long
If you're going my way
I want to drive it all night long
Yes.....It is a Mad Mad World.
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Hope you get to feeling better soon. I too count my blessing for the wife I have now. Seasons greetings and Merry Christmas to you and your family.
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Gerry
Your health problems make mine disappear into something so minor.
With mine it is simply old age catching up with me. Not something I was planning on but like you I had no idea what would come about after I started this journey. But I know what you mean by the attentiveness of a good wife.
I am sorry to hear about how serious things were when you were here but from what you say things are getting better. The next six months may seem a long way off but think back to how quick the last six have gone!
I, with others, look forward to you being back to full health.
Willy
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Congratulations on your anniversary. Glad you made it through the pain. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
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Best of luck Gerry...hopefully it can only get better from here.
I guess old age/wear and tear is getting to many of us !!! I am recovering from some serious surgery....too much sun for too many years left me with a serious SCC on my nose so they did a whopping reconstruction on my face to get rid of it. I look like something out of a horror movie just now...but through it all, Ming has been there with support.....I am very grateful for her about now !!
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Hope it all mends and you are returned to you handsome self.
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Hope it all mends and you are returned to you handsome self.
Is it true that you had a few nips and tucks at the same time to complete the upgrade? ;D
Willy
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I asked my surgeon for a super size upgrade. He said if he knew how he wouldn't be doing liver transplants. But he invites everyone to come in and take advantage of his fabulous weight loss surgery.
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I just created a new forum like this one. It is for liver and kidney transplant recipients and donors. My way of paying it forward. http://forums.pearlriverfashion.com/smf/index.php
In 2 more days it will have been 2 months since surgery. I had dropped 40+ pounds and now down three pants sizes. (from 42 to 36) . Feeling a bit better every day. Thank God for Fiona. what a wonderful saint.
Want to hear something weird? I am two inches shorter than I was last year.
Photo from the beginning until yesterdays snow. Man did I get in trouble with my Facebook friends for posting that last photo.
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Way to go with the positive trend of getting your health and vitality back. Soon we're going to need to change your name to Slim!
Shoveling snow can be tasking, and thus does show your energy returning. Our next major snow fall here and I am hoping I can count on you to lend a hand.
Happy New Year and hopes for continued improvement, no matter your height ;D
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UPDATE.
Fiona got another raise. She is employee of the month! Katie is doing well in highschool but she is begging for money to take drivers education...I am resisting.
I am 12 weeks post surgery and things are much better. I lost a lot of weight last year. From 236 Lbs a year ago to 212 Lbs before surgery to 174 today. A total of 60-ish pounds in 6 months. Much was muscle ma.. but most (40Lbs) was water. To think I had been lugging around 40 pounds of water for the past 10 years. hew! Hoping that any future weight gain is in muscle ma...
Nausea has gone for the most part and my appetite has returned. There are setbacks. Somedays I feel just rotten but I bounce back the next day. I have had one bout with nausea bad enough to vomit but it was gone he next day.
I am still sluggish going up stairs but on a flat surface I can scoot right along. I try to do 30 minutes on the tread mill 3 times a week. I work with dumbbells to strengthen my arms and shoulders. My body needs a lot of reconstruction. There a lot of loos skin where there used to be muscle. My kids remark that I finally look like a grandpa., Darn kids. haha.
Yesterday I walked 6 miles at the Denver Home Garden show. I am exhausted but feeling good about it. Today just one mile on the tread mill.
I can go out to eat but only eat what is freshly cooked to order. (because of the immunosuppressive drugs.)
I avoid salad bars and anything that may have been sitting half the day.
One temptation I find I almost fall for is the free food samples at costco and other markets. I mean you walk by and it smells/looks so good you automatically reach for it. But that is very dangerous for us on immunosuppressive drugs. You never know who touched it and changed their mind and put it back or some pas ser by sneezed on it.
I have met or exceeded the doctors expectations so they have changed my blood test from twice a week to once every two weeks. Also deleted one of my medications from the daily regiment.
I now return to the clinic in THREE MONTHS . HURRAY!
I hope the rest of me holds together longer than my first liver.
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That is good news Gerry. Keep up the good work.
Get used to the new weight soon you will have to walk about in the shower to get wet all over. ;)
Maybe I should get one of those treadmills to get me moving again when my ankle finally heals then the weight may stay off me..
Willy
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My tread mill sit there for months after I got it but after the transplant I forced myself to get on it at least for 15 minutes. I can walk 1 mile in 18 minutes.
I have not seen any significant change in my weight for the past 6 weeks. I am stuck at 174. Maybe all that is left is a layer of loose skin. haha.
I hope you are well and can get some sort of exercise so you will live longer.
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Wow I haven't been on this site for a few years now in fact it has changed names twice since I was here.
I just read this thread and it appears some things never change.
See one gal at a time is more than enough for anyone. I noticed a couple guys that posted a few years ago on this topic still doing the same old crap. All I can tell is don't forget about KARMA Because she wont forget you maybe not today or tomorrow but it will come back around and bite you in the ass.
As For me, My wife and I moved back to the US in 2012. We are doing pretty good all that love we had well its still there and stronger than ever.
Now and then we will be talking and she asks me if I have any regrets marring her. I tell her I have only 1 and that is that I didn't do it 20 years sooner She's the greatest. So you guys still looking the 2nd best one is still out there but the best of the best Chinese wife well she lives at my house and not likely to want to leave.
Ill check in with you all now and then my wife and I are planning a trip to china in a few months she hasn't seen her family in about 5 years and the way she takes care of me I owe he that, I wish we could afford more but she understands we do what we can when we can.. Well good luck to all you guys still looking and trolling.
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Hi Gerry good to see you making good progress in your recovery after such a serious operation gosh I was shocked to read about your situation
I have enjoyed many of your posts not to mention many videos you have on youtube seems life is going smoothly with you and Fiona and the children
must say you looking good after loosing the weight lets hope you do well on building your muscles up
enjoy the rest of your life with out any problems regards Joe
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Guess who passed the Citizen's exam and interview today?
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I'm happy for the both of you....
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Congrats!!!
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Another milestone. actually two !
Yesterday Fiona went for her citizenship interview.......PASSED ! She know more about US history and civics than most Americans.
Katie just finished her drivers exam......PASSED ! Another teenage driver to worry about.
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I am going to Guangzhou for a reunion with friends and family. Taking Katie along. Her relatives are thrilled. I am not looking forward to being a sitter for a teenage girl. But I am looking forward to connecting with old friends and some of Fiona's aunt's and her uncle.
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Have a good trip Gerrry. When are you leaving?
We were just talking yesterday about going to china town in Chicago for a weekend trip. My two older daughters would love to go up there with Linda a Ziwei. I am not much on Chicago but I guess I could stand a weekend.
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I am sending Katie to her aunts on the 17th but I wont arrive until the 28th and leave on Aug 10th. That gives me 2 weeks. Katie will be my translator and guide so I can go shopping in the garment districts. I need a whole new wardrobe. I have lost 62 pounds since my surgery and nothing fits me any more. I am going to take a few days to stock up on all my clothing. And then look for some bargains in the high tech stores in Guangzhou and Shenzhen.
I've been to the China town in Chicago. Its not that impressive. it is only a few blocks long and it is missing that authentic Chinese look.
Take a weekend and go to Flushing New York. That place looks, sounds and smells like Guangdong. Great restaurants and the population is about 99% Chinese.
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We have talked of going to New York as well. My daughter even said something about that yesterday. Maybe we will do that now or at least later this fall. Just wanting to do a few things before Ziwei goes off to college next year might not get the chance to take her after that.
I look forward to going back to China but linda says she does not want to go back. Maybe later?
thanks
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I am guangzhou for a couple of weeks. No schedule yet. I am her to get katie and get her back before school.
I got this very charming message in my inbasket this morning.
My dear husband: Hello! Let you fly thousands of miles back to my hometown to visit my family, my daughter back to the United States, I do not know what to use language to express my thanks to you. In this world, you and my daughter is my world, as long as you happy is my happiness.
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Warms ones Heart, to have such a loving Spouse! It doesn't come without being equally as caring on the other side though and in that case there is nothing that can surpass it!
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I am sending Katie to her aunts on the 17th but I wont arrive until the 28th and leave on Aug 10th. That gives me 2 weeks. Katie will be my translator and guide so I can go shopping in the garment districts.
We have some nice stores in Zhongshan, without the crowds and if you get this way I could always treat you to a cup of coffee.
Willy
P.S. Good to hear the recovery is still going well.
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Thanks for the invitation. I dont have any kind of schedule after next week. Today I got some new clothes sever sizes smaller than before. I was finished in about an hour but I followed Katie for another seven miles . She bought a few things but looked at EVERYTHING! I swear she can look all day..
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Were not going to be able to make it this trip. We will be going to Shenzhen to meet my son's soon to be in-laws.
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Made it home alive but only after 30+ hours on the road. Shenzhen to Tokyo to Vancouver, to Denver with 5 hours layover in Vancouver. I don't think the trip was worth it and I would not have made it if not for having to retrieve katie. Wish I had more time to do the things I want instead of following a teenager through the malls. Did get to meet my wife's family for a big dinner and didn't have to pay!!
Also got to meet up Ella, my sons fiance' in Shenzhen and follow her and katie through the malls again.
So glad to be home in Colorado. first day we had breakfast up in the mountains. Sure missed my wife.
I will be going back with Fiona next time.
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Gerry, the new slim line version is certainly looking good. ;) I am planning to lose a bit more weight myself.
I had 11 days in hospital here followed up by 15 days of physio, which is still ongoing.
For those who have visited me in recent years would have seen me go from a walking stick to two sticks, then a walking frame and into a wheelchair.
After treatment here I am now back to one walking stick and hope eventually look to give that up as well.
Willy
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Thanks willy.
I lost a total of 62 pounds. The weight has stabilized at 173 pounds for the last several months. Its been at least 30 years since I saw 173 pounds. It is definitely moving around. I am not loosing any weight but it is becoming muscle mass. I go to the gym at least twice a week. It was painful and difficult at first but now it is routine. I still need to loose another 15 pounds but I don't see that happening until I regain all my lost muscle mass.
Sorry to hear about your problems. Get yourself a gym membership and go religiously. Start slow and work your way unto it. I hope you have the gumption to fight back and get back to roller skating again. Hope to see you out jogging on my next trip to Guangdong.
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Garry! Do you know what bus go to the Guangzhou Embassy?I will be there Saturday for my appointment Monday.
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Really depends on where you are coming from. If you have someone to guide you the subway may be better.
its a short walk from exit B1 of the Zhujiang New Town subway station, Use Line 3 and Line 5
If you have never been there before then try to use this tool. You should not have any trouble if you are traveling with a local.
https://www.travelchinaguide.com/cityguides/guangdong/guangzhou/bus-subway-search.htm
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Great pictures Gerry! I bet some serious JET lag for such a trip which seems to be harder to handle as we get older. And way to shed those pounds.
Willy, I hope you can be successful and get a full recovery since lacking mobility sure sucks. Your rehab - just STICK with it and soon you will lose those sticks and stones (the English weight).
Well, a week ago my wife had an interview at the American consulate, and she said she didn't need a translator and she was able to pass and get an American tourist Visa so we plan on making plans to attend Vegas - baby, with hopes I don't say CRAP at the Craps table.
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Gerry, you are one happy guy! It shows well. I checked out your YouTube for more pics,
but I think the 'Don' Trump must be your distant relative. His face ad keeps popping up! ::)
Rhonald, the Vegas thing is scary thinking. I always thing Jing & I go Zhuhai, not far from Willy's
Zhongshan, but Macao lurks menacingly near. Jing would like to gamble.. with my money of course.
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Thanks guys or the encouragement.
Yes my youtube channel. Hmm Donald should be paying me if he is advertising on my videos. My video channel is so disorganized. I need to start putting them in play lists cause i you start one it may go find something from some other user on the same topic. You should g o by and check on Willy if your going to be in the neighborhood. I should have done that myself when I was there.
Rhonald, congrats on her getting a visa. Lets all meet in vegas !!!!
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Rhonald, congrats on her getting a visa. Lets all meet in vegas !!!!
I have been to Vegas three times in past twelve years and once to Macau but must admit Vegas gets my vote as the entertainment capital of the World.
Plus my English accent gave me more attention in Vegas, ( especially when sitting at a casino bar having a quiet drink). ::)
Willy
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Could not find another place for this so I am posting it here. For those China tourist wanabies. https://vimeo.com/ondemand/conqueringsouthernchina/175640682
for 6 bucks it a great introduction to the innards of China.
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I think I mentioned before I gave Jing a cash settlement recently to close the book on our marriage. Well she took it and bought a run down restaurant. She gutted it and remodeled it. Now it is doing quite well. So now she owns a Hair salon, a Chinese restaurant and two homes, ...all of which I paid for. :'(
http://jingschina88.wixsite.com/china88
By the way...she is single. Anyone needing a wife that can manage two businesses, a rental property and make money and is not too bad to wake up next to. ?????
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Fiona finally got her certificate of US citizenship.
https://youtu.be/HzMZA_vPJm0
Waiting outside the US District Courthouse for the courtroom to open up.
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hey Gerry,
congrats to your family!
the YouTube video of Fiona is priceless.
you had a great China adventure!
this thread is 48 pages long, over a 6 year history.
it deserves a WOW!!
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Wow !.. I think Sigh is the correct expression for me. It was a very long gambit and is it never finished entirely. But this was a major milestone. She has now applied for her US passport which will be her ticket to most anywhere she wants to go. But now she will have to apply for a Chinese VISA.
Point of order: After US citizenship. Make a couple of certified copies of the document.
1. If there's a name change...Go straight to Social Security Administration to get the New name in the system. They will need to see her old SS card and her citizenship papers and name change order. Also fill out the application while you are waiting for your number to be called.
This is important because a lot of state agencies tie their databases to the SSA database.
Wait a couple couple of days for it to get into the system.
2. Go to the DMV and do the name change on the drivers license.
3. Lastly apply for the US passport. This should be done last because they will take her citizenship certificate and send it to homeland security along with her passport application. DON'T PANIC It will be returned a week AFTER the new passport arrives.
Ignorant me...We did the passport first and now we have to wait for the Citizenship Certificate to be returned before we can do the SS Card and Drivers license. Live and learn.
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Good information. I am just started doing my I-130 ,G-325 and G-1145 form for Sammy to get she visa...Here is a question, I have been trying to post some photo and it wouldn't let me do it.How to do this
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Posting photos.
Photos (especially high quality photos) are often rejected because they are too big.
Because my camera generates large format photos that cant be uploaded here, I put them on m computer then use the snipping tool to make a lower resolution copy. Then I upload the low res copy without any problems.
Good luck on the i-130. Now the hair puling will begin. Hope you still have some when it is done.
My son has filed an i-130 for his fiance' and just got the acceptance letter Thursday. He left for Shenzhen on Friday. I am hoping they both can join us for Thanksgiving on the 24th of November.
Check my post from Sept-6 the second and third photo. That's Ella, with Katie.
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six years ago today in Guangzhou I married a beautiful woman. My best friend.
六年前的今天在广州我娶了一个漂亮的女人。我最好的朋友。
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Congratulations to you both.
Kenny
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Fiona got to go home to Guangzhou for a couple of weeks. She is thrilled with all the shopping and visiting she did. But most of all she said she filled up on all te Chinese food that she had been craving for the last three years.
She got to get some professional photos made as well. I hope the look as good here after I resize them to fit.
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She also has her US citizenship, US passport and a 10 year Chinese VISA.
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Ella and my son are getting along very well.
It's been a little over a year and my son and Ella are running through the paperwork mill in Guangzhou. Last update is the application has been approved and she is awaiting the arrival of her packet and interview date. She is here in the USA but will head back to China for her interview when her packet arrives. It's a joy to have her here. She is fun and she and Fiona are the best friends. And I have never seen my son this happy in all his life. Fiona's sister is coming to visit for Chinese New Year and it's going to be a riot. Three Guangdong girls in the same house. Fiona has also found a group of chinese women the gather for food and gossip exchange once a month. I love seeing them all together. You cant help but smile the whole time.
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Ella returned to China for 2 months, took care of some business, did her interview and was approved.
My son picked her up in Denver today.
Marriage is May 14th.
From application to VISA less than a year.
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Wedding is done. Time to breathe now.
Alll My lovely daughters came to colorado for the event.
44 years a bachelor and now a married man.
Ella's son flew in to walk her down the isle.
He paid a tribute to his new wife at the reception and did it in CHINESE !
ceremony https://youtu.be/u9QwHj1Onjc
Tribute https://youtu.be/NMGb3ymmgRY
Jerry's sisters https://youtu.be/XBm2wqS_EqA
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Very nice!
I enjoyed the tributes, it was easy to see how touched Ella was with your son and his tribute in chinese.
Empressive, I been married to a chinese woman and have a chinese daughter for 7 years and still cant understand 1 freaking word of it.
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Since this web site is now blocked at work, I don't check as frequently as much as before, however, that being said - Gerry I never seen the picture you posted in January with Fiona so a little late but great classic pictures.
Great May update and May I say thanks with sharing the pictures and videos.
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Hey Kenny, I have been immersed in Mandarin and Cantonese for about 20 years now and still have limited understanding. When I first went to China I started learning Mandarin, I quit studying when my then wife's English got better than my Chinese.
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This really pisses me off.
Today I filled out the paperwork to get Katie's US citizen certificate.
They have raised the processing fee to a whopping $1,170.00.
That's crazy. That much money to process an application. I have done all the work, gathered all the supporting documents. What are they doing to earn over a thousand bucks.
That is double what I paid just a year ago for Fiona's Certificate of Citizenship.
I should start a go fund me page😡I'm pissed.
No wonder there are so many illegals here. They cant afford to do it the legal way........
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My God, they must have just raised it we filed Ziwei this past summer. I guess i'm glad we did it then.
I have told friends the reason there are so many illegals is that our goverment makes it so hard to do it the right way.
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This really pisses me off.
Today I filled out the paperwork to get Katie's US citizen certificate.
They have raised the processing fee to a whopping $1,170.00.
That's crazy. That much money to process an application. I have done all the work, gathered all the supporting documents. What are they doing to earn over a thousand bucks.
That is double what I paid just a year ago for Fiona's Certificate of Citizenship.
I should start a go fund me page😡I'm pissed.
No wonder there are so many illegals here. They cant afford to do it the legal way........
If the fee hike pisses you off Gerry, you will absolutely love this little form! You should have filed one of these and had the fees waived but I bet you wouldn't have qualified to use the form.
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This really pisses me off.
Today I filled out the paperwork to get Katie's US citizen certificate.
They have raised the processing fee to a whopping $1,170.00.
It's getting worst for the 'elderly' too.. just received my revised SocSec 2018 benefits letter.
My 'Medicare Medical Insurance' increased just about $30
My 2017 monthly deduction was $104.90. For 2018, the deduction is $134
This comes off the 2% cost of living increase.
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Robertt, I did look at the form and you need to poor and destitute to qualify. I make a bit more than the minimum... but is still pisses me off that they can charge that much to look at the documents I sent in and rubber stamp the approval. Like I said I have done all the work, all they need to do is check it. It ain't worth $1170. I guess the need some way to pay for the Christmas party.
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Still waiting for Katies citizenship certificate. Denver processing times sayis it is very late so i queried them to explain why. Waiting for a response.
Meanwhile ...
Got some new toys since we posted this stuff.
I have been buying old motorcycles and refutbishing them . I had 6 at one time. I had 2 Kawasaki Concours, a honda shadow, and 3 honda magnas.
Sold 3 of them and raised enough to buy this vstar.
It's a 2009 fuel injected Vstart Tourer. I love this bike. It is so much easier to ride than the Concours.
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I knew it!!! You were Born to be Wild!!!!!
For my wife, we are in the process of her buying her own business, which seems incrementally harder than buying a house.
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Looks like it might be a handful for Fiona.
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Nice bikes Gerry. I been working so much recently I haven't had time to ride mine any!
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Dont come here often anymore. Nice to read the posts. I took a part time job not far from my home. I am now a Home Depot sales associate. The Vstar is getting 45 miles per gallon. I can ride it to work for two weeks for about 6 bucks.
Fiona is working at walmart. They love her there, She is a great worker and is always getting compliments from the management. Katie is in her senior year of high school and took a job at wallmart this past summer but she needs to cut back on her hours since school just started and work plus school is killing her.
Still waiting on her certificate of citizenship. It is way outside the normal processing time for the Denver office.
We had a hail storm here in June and I found out that my roof was trashed and needs to be taken off and replaced. The insurance is paying less than half. If you live in the mid-west check your home insurance policy. If there is a line item like "scheduled roof coverage" then it is shit policy. Scheduled really means prorated. will only pay (age/30)% minus deductible. It should be illegal.
Thats all the news that is news.....
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Finally the End of the road.... last week Katie received her citizenship certificate. 13 month wait and $1600. I am finall finished, the last of my sponsored immigrants are citizens.
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Oh my she has changed so much Gerry! I was confused at the photos at first, couldnt figure out who the new citizen was.
Very pretty girl you got your hands full.
It is a good feeling to be at the "End of the road"
Congratulations to you all.
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This is an example of chain immigration. Where a child of a US citizen gains citizenship from a naturalized citizen. It is not as simple as you might think. It is not automatic. Same evidence proof, background checks, fbi investigation, fingerprint checks as any other applicant. It is a long and involved process and it's cost is near $2000 for the application. This application took over a year to complete..total mom and daughter path to citizenship is 8 years and thousands in costs. Look at those smiles...well worth the wait.
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Oh my she has changed so much Gerry! I was confused at the photos at first, couldnt figure out who the new citizen was.
Very pretty girl you got your hands full.
It is a good feeling to be at the "End of the road"
Congratulations to you all.
Yes I had my hands full. I had to chase a couple boys away already. But we are past that point. She has grown into a beautiful and responsible young lady. It was very rewarding watching and helping her grow up. She is a great student and a great kid to have around. Having learned 3 languages and two cultures she has an insight to life that is unusual for someone her age. She is 17 going on 25. She has finally decided what she wants to do in life and has set her sights on it. She will do well in this life.
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March 20 2019
Katie is now a grown woman. She turned 18. She graduates in 2 months.
https://youtu.be/E1UgFbMLZ28
When you see her hugging the tree...the video is over.
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Congratulations to Katie, graduation big deal for them. I think I remember mine.
Whats next, off to college? If so you are going to miss her I think!
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I guess this is it.. the "End of the road".
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It's a long and winding road,
Katie Starts at Front Range Community College in the fall. 2 years there then transfer to CU in Boulder.
She has been saving all year for this summer. She is taking the summer off for here senior tripp. She is going to China, Korea and Taiwan with some of her girlfriends. Kind of scary for me and mom but you gotta let go sometime.
Fiona and I will be in Guangzhou-Shenzhen in May and June if any expats want to have a beer!
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Merry Christmas and happy new year.
http://gpineau.com/Misc/Merry%20Christmas%20.mp4
http://gpineau.com/Misc/Merry%20Christmas%20.mp4
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Merry Christmas to you and family as well.
Very entertaining video
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Changed the url. May people complained the spaces created 404 errors in their browsers.
http://gpineau.com/Misc/Merry-Christmas%20.mp4
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All is well at the end of the road.
Fiona has 3 more years left to guarantee her social security benefits. She misses Guangzhou food but is loving the USA.
Katie is still attending community college. She hasn't finished college yet and has landed a job with JBS (world's largest meat provider). Her first big girl job... Her title is international Documentation Coordinator. She interviewed for a clerk position but when they learned she is fluent in three languages they created this position just for her. That's her discovering my red V-star.
I'm still retired but taking odd jobs now and then to get extra money to fund my hobbies. Still refurbishing old motorcycles. I got a second V-star to keep my first one company. I got really fat over the last couple years so last year I started a low carb-high fat diet. I lost 70 pounds and I am at the recommended weight for my height. Now if I can just keep it off with Thanksgiving and turkey& dressing, pies and such just around the corner.
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Good to hear from you Gerry
Congrats to Katie on her job I wish her well. They grow up fast.
You and Fiona looking good enjoy your time together and wish you both a great holiday.
Kenny
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My bride is getting to be an old woman and I enjoy her more each day. Happy birthday Fiona.
https://youtu.be/aoWgKmg1ovs
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Very Nice
Happy Birthday to Fiona
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Going on 12 years. Katy has moved out to here own place closer to work.
Katie is the last of 7 kids that I have raised. It's really time to retire .
Fiona and I are selling our house and moving to South Texas.
https://youtu.be/3yJKf3C49sI
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Everyone still living, raise you hand and give us an update.
Married 13 years December 10.
Moved to Texas and still kicking. https://youtu.be/QqNNR1zXNQo?si=0jpz-EDPcwzbFwlr&t=406
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Yeah still around
been married 13 years last august
hows life in the lone star state?
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Still here. We've been married 11 1/2 years and she's been here 1-1/2 years.
Life is mostly good. I'm battling cancer right now. The prognosis is good but the process in a pain. We caught it early.
We're opening a second store 5 times larger that the first and we are going to try to operate both.
Help me out by liking then following my store on facebook. The Blade Guyz I'm trying to get to 100 follows to get data about the demographics of people who are looking. It also moves me up in suggesting my site to new people. Thank you in advance for doing it.
All this and I'm almost 69 and going strong.
Shaun and Xinjiao
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Trying not to be around, but desserts do taste good. Finished up my 3 year Acupuncture course and need to write provincial exams in order to be able to practice. This will help out at my wife's clinic.Anybody else been exposed to moxibustion? As well plenty of Chinese herbs and formulas. Happy New Year to all and may this year be good to all
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I have been so busy since moving to Texas. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNtsfk6TsFZwddt3y3zxi-g