China Romance
All About China => Your trip to China => Topic started by: AbovetheLAW on May 26, 2013, 03:33:34 pm
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Hello to all. I very much enjoy Maxx's writing format so I will follow him (for the simple fact that its easy to read).
Ok...My story begins back in 2008 when I was in one of my favorite Chinese food restaurants. I had gone there often and really enjoyed their food and staff. There was a Chinese girl that worked there who was
around my age (25) who I enjoyed to talk with very much and would get nervous each time I would try to hit on her. Nothing really came of it because she could understand me and I couldnt understand her but I know she fancied me because she would have an authentic smile when I came in to eat. Anyway the point of that story is, that is when i discovered that I really had a soft spot for eastern girls and really wanted to make this interest a permanent part of my life.
So when I got home I performed a Google search 'Asian American Dating' and one of the first results was.....(you guessed it) ChnLove. Back then the prices were fairly reasonable and the agencies maybe slightly more authentic( i don't know). So I began my search for a Chinese woman that would love me and I would love very much. Now...lets be honest here about my expectations, with my simple American ignorance I figured I would find a Chinese woman who absolutely loved to cook, clean, have sex everyday, give me massages, and maybe even tell me a few mysteriously deep Chinese proverbs. I know..i know.. NAIVE and ignorant but im being totally honest with you and myself.
So with my starry eyed self I set off into the website, created a profile and begin to look at profiles. My thoughts off the bat were "Wow! Are all the woman in China models?" Then I saw some of the profiles without professional pix and that answered my question lol. So to make a long story short for about a year I was playing the shot gun game (choosing about 5 adm mails and seeing which one stood out the most then actually corresponding with that girl), I had maybe 3 girlfriends through this whole time but the cost of ChnLove began to be overwhelming and I was getting frustrated with my thwarted attempts to speak to these girls off of ChnLove and on QQ, Skype, anything that was free!
I then decided to give up on Chnlove for the time being and use QQ messenger for a while. I had no luck on QQ and strangely had grade school teenies trying to practice their Chinese with me, No thanks not my thing. Sadly enough I had no luck on QQ and I was beginning to think it was just impossible to date outside my country. Between work and QQ there went 2009 and I was no closer to finding the make-believe perfect Chinese wife. I was going to just give up.
I would like each person reading this to guess what placed a fire back under my ass, You guessed it! Western woman and their cruelty to their men. I think there is when i took a vow to stay away from western woman and their super super high expectations. Tramps. Anyway.... I gave ChnLove another shot and this is actually where my super super high expectations of Chinese woman was brought back down to Earth, im talking Earth's core. I found a very pretty Chinese woman who I got along with very much. She and I would send letters every week and i actually began to care for her a lot. Her name was Jia Jun. (If you can picture Adrian from Rocky thats kinda what she looked like) So everything was going great between us and I was actually planning to visit her in March of 2011. Then things begin to 180. Well the Chinese stereotype I had in my head (they do not get angry and act so humbly all the time and the other ignorant things i mentioned earlier) was crushed. That balloon was popped. She and I was actually arguing over EMF! haha more than once. She had different views on how to raise kids, she did not want to live in America, she did not want to be a housewife, she also did not want to even attempt to talk outside of Chnlove for whatever reason. I then figured out that we were not meant to be together and just saw trouble in the future. Dont get me wrong, I know i am vain on certain issues and a bit stubborn but certain things I just don't want to bend on. I have caveman views on who is the bread winner, children's care taker and such but hey whose perfect? After that I left ChnLove completely and never turned back. I figured I would leave my love life to fate and simply focused on work and my social life.
Well time passed and here comes 2012. This is the year I meet the woman Im here to talk about! lol. I started exploring the web more for any alternatives to ChnLove because as I said I do have a soft spot for Asian woman. I found QQ International. I highly recommend that website! It is more human and personal. Most of the woman on there know simple English. Well one day I received a message from a woman on there named Ke Shu. All she said was 'Hello' and from there we began to email (FOR FREE..i love it) back and forth. She then asked if I had Skype and we began to talk on there and even video chat. For maybe...3 months we video chatted everyday. So that was around...October of 2012. We talked til January of this year and lost contact for maybe 3 months due to her computer breaking. I then figured that she did want to talk anymore and didnt think to much on it simply because we were friends and nothing more. Well April rolls around and she found me and we started talking again.
Since then we talked everyday. I have learn so much about Chinese customs and culture from her its not even funny. Corresponding with her has made me realize that women and humans for that matter are all the same when it comes to fears, emotions, thoughts. My whole way of thinking has changed. I have been teaching her about America too as she thinks all Americans have high self esteem and are confident in everything we do... XD. I keep telling her people are people anywhere in the world.
Anyway we got together when one day she called me 'Babe' during chat lol. Then she tried to play dumb and say 'I dont know why i said that' Hahaha (i laugh so hard) Has anyone else noticed how manipulative Chinese women are? lol. Not in a bad way but they will often hide things or lie in order to keep peace or get an answer to a certain issue they have on their mind....Hmmm at least Ke Shu does that. Anyone else experienced this?
So we have been dating since then and I plan to visit her in August. Man! have we had our ups and downs. She has almost left me once and I almost left her once but somehow each time we managed to work it out. To me i feel that's the kind of wife i need, someone that will fight for us, as i will. What do you guys think?
She lives in Ningbo and plans to meet me in Shanghai in August. I will for sure update you guys about my trip and give details.
She is not the best looking girl in China(I have high shallow standards, i know ima jerk) but she cares for me a lot, she has a good heart and all that means a lot to me, I will post a pic.
- Jake
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Are you fricken kidding me? She's adorable! Here is what comes to mind after reading this. I think it's healthy that you banter back and forth, it helps create a balance of power. Unlike me, in which I often have no clue whats going on in Hong's head and there's danger in pushing limits going both ways, you both seem on firm ground and have displayed the ability to have gained respect for the other...and can easily still work things out.
Welcome and keep us posted!
Chris
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Jake,
Nothing is perfect in any relationship. But what it really takes is two willing to work it out together. Sometimes she wins, sometimes you win but if the two of you work it out right the both of you will always win.
Sounds to me like the two of you are headed down the right path. I agree with Chris and Mike, she is adorable.
Shaun
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Cute as a button. I'd be on a plane before some swoops in and steals her away>>>
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Jake I'm happy to here You like to read what I write.Your relationship is progressing nicely with the young lady.Just remember the rules.And you should be ok.And like the other members posted.I think she is beautiful.Good luck.
Maxx
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Thank you everyone for the kind and thoughtful words. Ke Shu brings out the best in me and I will do anything to see her happy. I will keep you posted on my travel details. Right now I am sending for my single entry visa..!
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"..I am sending for my single entry visa..!
Jake, why?
Apply for the 1- year, multi- entry visa. cost is the same.
From the looks :) of it, in all likelihood, you will return to China sooner than what you imagine now.
best of luck! John
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Hmm... Thanks for the heads up! I will!
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Nice lady.
I've dated a lot of Chinese ladies but the one thing they've all had in common is having absolutely terrific figures.
I didn't like Shanghai much but the FX Furama (I think that's the name) hotel was really nice - cheap and within walking distance to the Bund and Nanjing Lu.
Just a word of caution though - you're not dating until you've actually met the girl. So don't invest too much of your emotions in her until you've been on the ground here. I've been living in China for 3.5 months now and I'm only now beginning to understand the place (and the women!).
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Welcome Jake to our mad mad world , if you have been reading items in this forum already you will find many answers , but any questions you may have just yell away someone will have the answer .
Having spent time in Shanghai very late last year with my better half , we both loved it and as she had never been there before we still had no trouble finding places and getting around , stayed in an apartment complex , well hidden , but in city central for about 50 dollars a night if you would like more info just drop a reply , also if Ke Shu is flying in if you let her know of your flight details she probably can arrange a flight so that you airport meet , I did this with my Sujuan as she flew down from Shenyang and our flights were within 1/2 an hour of each other .
For your visa you will have had to booked both your flight and where you are staying and show these along with your visa application , regards Sujuan and Robert .
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Brett, Thank you for your words of caution and I totally believe in what you are saying because i have fully given my heart to a Chinese lady over the internet before and it got me nothing but heartache. This time I KNOW for a fact i still have guards up because i dont ever want to be hurt like that again. FX Furama huh? I will check that out..
Robert, You know I think i have heard of those apartments before....Oh yes! now i remember. A helpful gentlemen by the name of Robert told me of this place in another thread. I thank you for your information that day because that is actually where i plan to book my stay (after you told me about it i looked it up and found it was perfect). Also Ke Shu said she plans to take a bus from Ningbo to Shanghai (3 hours) and she even said she will meet me at the airport. I do have a question about the service apartment though Robert, It says online that there is a shuttle that can come from the apartments and pick me up. Is this true? I would like to use this. What did you and Sujuan do?
Thank you for all the helpful advice!
- Jake
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Jake , because our flights were so close together we just hopped a taxi as it was cheaper , but Sujuan made sure she had the address written down in Chinese because as you can imagine with so many thousands of taxi drivers in Shanghai not many know where the building is I think we saved the princley sum of about 10 dollars ha ha , so maybe yes their own pickup is not such a bad idea , hopefully you will arrive whilst it is still light and be able to grasp the size of the city , bloody huge , when we arrived it was dark so did not appreciate the size till we were exiting , and whilst one can catch a train from the airport very cheaply , one could get lost ha ha , regards Sujuan and Robert .
I would have dumped some photos on here , but me is velly dumb in reducing , I will get one of the girls to do it in the next couple of days .
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Ok, Thank you Robert. I look forward to those pictures.
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This will give you an idea of what to expect later on if things work out good for you! haha ;D
The joys and trials of marrying a Chinese tiger wife - Staff Reporter
- 2012-10-29
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(http://www.wantchinatimes.com/newsphoto/2012-10-29/450/wife-151027_copy1.jpg) A foreigner taking part in a traditional Chinese wedding. (Internet photo)
A blog lamenting the lot of men from other countries who marry Chinese women has drawn the attention of 3 million readers in China. The writer claims to have interviewed numerous foreign men about common stereotypes involved in such a marriage, such as having to "marry the whole family," being without any privacy, and being expected to eat anything and everything. Chinese readers generally agreed with the amusing international perspectives, according to Guangzhou's Yangcheng Evening News.
LIVING WITH THE WHOLE FAMILY
One post comments on getting adjusted to life in a Chinese household, saying that within six months, relatives are all "queuing up to come to your home." In the kitchen, the writer describes the novelty of having two wok burners after "a dozen generations of my family have never seen a Chinese wok," and of opening the drawers to find them flooded with chopsticks. "Now I can even pick up peanuts with chopsticks," the author said proudly.
NO PRIVACY
Another post begins, "Once the Chinese invade your home, you will never have privacy again. One day I was sitting on the toilet when my father-in-law sauntered in and washed his hands while muttering phrases of a standard English conversation: 'How are you? And you?' with me."
His mother-in-law tucks him in if he falls asleep on the couch while reading a book. Both will follow him throughout the house, switching off the lights as soon as he leaves the room so that "everything behind me is always dark."
As for the furniture, "Anything that gets dusty easily is wrapped in plastic, even the remote control, the carpet on the staircase, and the keys of the piano." All of the furniture is hard and uncomfortable to sit on, he wrote.
CHINESE PEOPLE WILL EAT (ALMOST) ANYTHING
Commenting on food, the author writes in another post, "I love to eat the food they make, but they never tell me what I'm eating. They say that Chinese love to eat meat, but where is the meat in chicken feet, duck beak and pig ears?"
YOU WILL ALWAYS LOSE A FIGHT WITH YOUR WIFE
A general consensus among foreign husbands was that Chinese wives have flawless memories and will be able to recall even the slightest, most trivial offense against her 10 years ago or more.
They describe a Chinese wife as being determined to control every aspect of their husband's life. One writer jokes, "It is no wonder that China never had a great sea explorer like Columbus, because if anyone tried to leave, they would have been buried with questions from their wife. "Where are you going? With whom? Are there any women on the boat? How old? Are they prettier than me? How did you meet them?" Eventually, the explorer would have just cancelled the expedition."
DRIVING THEIR KIDS CRAZY
According to another post, Americans generally try to give their kids the freedom to enjoy their youth without giving them pressure to be the best in the class. A Chinese wife, however, will force them to learn piano, practice martial arts, take ballet lessons, learn Chinese and math, and "get a PhD before the age of 18." She will, according to the writer, forbid them from doing what they like to do, to the point where it borders on inhumanity.
Chinese internet users had varied reactions to this perspective on Chinese marriage values. One netizen said, "I laughed until I cried. Every description is right on the dot. Aren't these the shortcomings of the Chinese people?"
Another netizen sympathized, saying, "At least they understand the bitterness with which Chinese men have to live."
A third, in contrast, said, "aside from cultural differences, these 'annoyances' are the outstanding qualities of the Chinese character."
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Not to be rude, but I figure that there must be something wrong with you. Right off the bat, you said you enjoyed Maxx's writing format...you can even read Maxx's format? I would have picked ANYONE but Maxx. hahaha (Sorry Maxx)
Sounds like you are headed on a great adventure. I look forward to reading all about it here.
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How many on here actually went through the 'Traditional Wedding Ceremony' as shown on the previous post.
We did not - it was a trip to the marriage office with her adult children. And that was it. My wife was practical on this. The money saved would be money towards the home we now bought here.
A taxi ride a few packs of cigarettes and candy for the security and office staff and lunch in Changsha for 5. Job done!
Willy
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Me and my wife had a traditional Chinese wedding ceremony. Nik and his wife did.Arnold and his wife did.
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Martin like's to read the words of wisdom from the guppy.They have the same mentality level. ;D
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We planned to get married in Chengdu on June 8th (my birthday) so on June 4 we grabbed a carton of cigs and a big bag of sweets( to grease the wheels) and trolled off to the local Marriage Office just to check and make sure we had all the correct paperwork (you know how anal they get over this stuff)...15 mins later we were looking at each other on the sidewalk, clutching our red-books with a distinct feeling of disbelief and couldn't quite believe we had just got married....
But we did have a big wedding dinner bash on the next Saturday.
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Robert S
To your very real post about marrying a Chinese woman, I must add that they are the most nosey people on the Planet....they need to know EVEYTHING about EVERYONE.
I have lived at my current address for 12 years and I thought I knew all the important stuff about my neighbors...you know, stuff like "what the guys do for a living, what motor does he drive, how much beer can he drink in an afternoon, and how he likes his steaks cooked...along with a reasonable estimate of their wives' bra size "...what more would you want to know about your neighbors ??
After a little over 18 months, I swear that Ming knows every micro detail about each of their lives from the moment they were born !!!...and I cant figure out for the life of me how she has managed to extract that much info...its not like we see them every day...must be a particular Chinese Women skill !!!!
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I'm with you David, MinYing and I went to the marriage office in Shijiazhuang where we had all the correct paperwork then was given our RED books and we left, I asked MinYing "was that it ?", 3 or 4 times before it sank in, no ceremony though as my wife broke her wrist before the event and cancelled it :(
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Hahaha! This article was so funny. Most of the things I haven't dealt with and actually don't plan on dealing with but it connects a lot of dots.
Ke Shu will always send me a picture of another woman who is beautiful and ask me what do I think of her. After playing this game a few times I got angry and told her to stop doing this and that I like her look the best, luckily she stopped, apologized and vowed to never do it again. My point is the part of the Chinese woman asking her husband "Are they prettier than me?" really hit home and I get aggravated at her insecurity sometimes but after I thought about you guys post and someone saying "Different culture/ different customs" I can to a new understanding and I have more patience with that part of her now.
The second thing was one day out of the blue she asked this question "Honey, if I come to America to live with you, do you mind if my mother comes and lives with us too?"
(Just a bit of a background, her parents are divorced, so she talks to her mom a lot) Now once I read this I responded with a laugh as I was laughing in real life. I thought it was a joke, I don't care who in the world i marry, I would never live with a mother in-law....Hell no. So She responded to me asking why I was laughing. At that point i realized she was serious and considered it maybe to be a custom. I told her about American customs and explained I wouldn't feel comfortable, she understood.
As I said before the majority of these customs I simply wouldnt go for. Maybe im a bit close minded but...
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David, I think it's just a Women's thing.. them digging up information from people close by. Qing is also very well equipped and digests info/looks/body language in way more detail then me or most Men do.
About the Parents coming over to the US is not that simple. First, you can sponsor your Wife (kids (under 18) if any), but her Parents "she" must sponsor them and for that she needs to be Citizen first, which takes five years from arriving in the States. So, any Mother inlay that wants to stay will have some waiting time on her hand first.
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As for the question, " is this girl prettier than me"? I love it and I have a lot of fun teasing her with my answers. And its great that you wife will point out all the pretty girls that are walking on the sidewalk. (be sure to pretend that she saw them first and you really hadn't noticed).
Mother in the house. for a visit, fine. Permanently, Don't do it. Mother in laws from China are very controlling. Jing's mom and dad came to live with us. Her mother became my surrogate housewife. It changes the whole dynamics of your family and household. I would never do it again.
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Looks like you may have to make a choice eventually.
a) Have mother in law come live with you in few years time or
b) Buy her a home in China and that request may came sooner than expected.
c) then wait for your wife to make more regular and longer trips to China as her mother ages with the years.
Looking after parents is a intricate part of Chinese family life and I doubt if there are enough Western influences in this World that can break that!
Willy
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Haha Willy, I did both. built her a new home AND let her come live with us. I don't know why I don't have any money...hmmm :'(
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I did say that you had CHOICES. Not concede everything! ;D But then probably the safest course in the long run. ::)
Willy
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Funny post, "The joys and trials of marrying a Chinese tiger wife ".
Chinese people do indeed eat everything, and the whole of everything.
While I like some food here (jiaozi, spicy cucumber) it's just so hard to adjust to a whole different way of eating. Sucking the meat off bones isn't something I was brought up to do, when I was a kid I just got given stuff like mash potato or fish fingers.
Last weekend I picked at some spicy chicken wings - Miss Huang left a pile of bones on her plate.
Also food quality here is much lower than back home, and Chinese people are accustomed to finding stones and sharp things in their food, while I'm not. I had a bit of internal trouble due to this :-[.
Strangely, a lot of food here isn't that cheap either. Today I went to Carrefour, a pretty clean supermarket. Bananas there are more expensive than in England (and lower quality). And I wanted to buy some peppers, but most of them had gone off already. I made do with red onions (which are fairly indestructible) and cucumbers. Their fruit is better but it's not best to linger in that department when they're slicing up Durians >:(.
And to answer why I don't buy vegetables locally - it's very hard to buy them. 90% of people who live here are students. None of the student dorms have kitchens, so the stores here only really sell fruit, plus one or two bits of gone off veg.
And needless to say all the furniture in my apartment is uncomfortable, although I bought a chair. The chairs in the University's Chinese student classrooms are the same size as they were in my junior school, lol.
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And needless to say all the furniture in my apartment is uncomfortable, although I bought a chair. The chairs in the University's Chinese student classrooms are the same size as they were in my junior school, lol.
The first apartment I moved into had one of those solid wooden bench seats. That was soon stood on end on the balcony and I went out and bought a $1500 comfy sofa. Mind you it so large that when I moved it had to be carried down 8 flights and up 5 in the new block as it was too big for the lift and they had to take the steel door off so it could be taken out of the apartment, lucky there were four men who did that for 5 rmb each. 8)
Willy
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Im finishing up my visa paperwork (im using VisaHQ) and it says for Multiple Entry I need to send a letter giving a reason why i need the multiple entry. I am wondering how I should word this, or better yet, what did you guys put?
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I'm finishing up my visa paperwork (I'm using Visa HQ) and it says for Multiple Entry I need to send a letter giving a reason why i need the multiple entry.
I didn't get this when I did my visa paperwork,they only asked for what major purposes I was coming to China on the form, and I wrote tourism but my purpose was marriage. ;D
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You need a multi entry if you plan to return before the visa expires, or if you plan to travel to Hong Kong and back. I don't think they need any specifics, just put down that the possibility exists.
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If I was asked , and I wasn,t when I renewed mine last November , I would write that you intend to visit more than 1 time in the next 12 months for touring and personal reasons , the question might be arising if it is your first China visa , regards Robert .
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That's right Robert. Same here, the first time all kinds of questions... after that... what "You" again?
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How are things? Things between me and Ke Shu have never been better. We talk so much via Tango (app on the phone that works as long distance texting) its crazy. She told me yesterday that she feels she is so lucky to have found me, lol she exaggerates sometimes. I cant believe i have a woman that is so devoted to us, its refreshing.
In other news, Im having a bit of a hiccup with my flight. I made a rookie mistake and booked the ticket without noticing the layover I have in Seoul on the return flight (24 hr layover...yikes!!) So now I am on the phone with the booking company and they are talking about cancellation fees out the a$$. Its my own fault for being so excited and not looking at the details. I found a way better ticket online for around the same price (this one with only a 13 hr layover) but I have to wait to see if the booking company will let me cancel my ticket (they said they will email me within 24 hours) I hope the flight i saw isn't snagged up before then.
I don't dare talk about any of this with the girlfriend because she worries easy. I will never make this mistake again.
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That 24 hours stop over is Seoul is a killer. The other problem is that if you are able to cancel a flight then it costs an arm and a leg and that makes the money you may have saved look insignificant against the final cost.
Sometimes it can be false economy searching for the cheapest way to fly.
But I do realise where you youngsters (working age) have to try to save money and you know it makes you more akin to your lady as it matters not how much money she has in her bank as the haggling over prices is always there.
Willy
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Never say never. I have said it but I still get in situations that force you to do it again.
I've spent the night sleeping on a bench in Japan because I cut my connection time too close ( only a dumb ass like me would do this twice).
I spent 5 hours with no food or water on the tarmac in Taiwan because we were forced to land for fuel and not allowed to leave because of a Typhoon.
I have spent half a day sitting in the hot sun waiting for a train that only ran twice a day and I had just missed the first one.
I have spent hours one night in the back of a taxi drawing stick figures on the window with a Cantonese speaking cab driver waiting for the monsoon to let up enough for him to see the road.
I have ran through airports, (haven't we all)
I've left my bags on a shuttle and chased it on foot for a mile before giving up.
You know the bridge at Lohu between Hong Kong and Shenzhen. Yes, the one with little speed bumps every 4 inches. Well those speed bumps will shear the wheels right off of a cheap Chinese suitcase. So I can remember walking (stumbling actually) from the station, to my hotel, dragging two 40 kilo suitcases with no wheels. Hong Kong in June at noon is such a pleasant place for an afternoon stroll.
I have fallen to sleep on a plane and woke up to find the ugly old woman sitting next to me cuddled up on my shoulder and drooling on my arm.
I have suitcases that are somewhere in the world with more frequent flyer miles than me. I hope they found a good home.
I have been stuck in traffic on a LA freeway and watched my flight take off ....and, and , and.
I have been traveling to international destinations for 30 years and I still get surprised by some of the things that can catch you completely off guard and make you wish you had never left home. But when you finally arrive...check in...and fall onto the bed, well its just another chapter in your diary and life is good again.
Never say never. http://youtu.be/nWRxPDhd3d0 (http://youtu.be/nWRxPDhd3d0)
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Gerry , now you know why Australia is the lucky country , 8 to 10 hours and we are in HK or China proper with direct flights to GZ , HK , Shanghai and Beijing with the flights generally close to time , jumping up to Shenyang all the way from Melbourne is about 12 hours door to door , unless I want a nice massage in Shanghai on the way through ;D ,
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Nothing I have done or endured while traveling could ever come close to the saga played out in China every new year when the great migration starts. I have witnessed it myself at the Guangzhou railway station. It is amazing.
http://youtu.be/0N6vDotVNDo (http://youtu.be/0N6vDotVNDo)
If you get a chance to rent this you will also be amazed.
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Nothing I have done or endured while traveling could ever come close to the saga played out in China every new year when the great migration starts. I have witnessed it myself at the Guangzhou railway station. It is amazing.
http://youtu.be/0N6vDotVNDo (http://youtu.be/0N6vDotVNDo)
If you get a chance to rent this you will also be amazed.
As I approached my first Great Migration here I made the mistake of traveling by train about 12 days before it started. I can remember wondering why there were all the barriers and canvas tenting in place in the forecourts of railway stations. I also wondered why the forecourts were so huge. I had of course heard of the travels for Chinese New Year but heck I was traveling a good time before it.
Once inside the station preparing for a 8 hour slow train journey the crowds grew and grew until you could hardly move in the waiting hall. Each waiting hall is just for each train. Suddenly the doors open and fortunately I was close to the exit door way. If I had wanted to pause I would never have been able. I am not the smallest of people and I was just carried along on a wave of humanity and that included going down stairs and it did not begin to ease until those on the platform where able to locate their carriages and the crush eased.
I often reflect the start of that journey and the very start of the migration that I encountered was so hectic I could never have imagined just what it would be like traveling at the start of the event itself. From that day on I decided that going anywhere during the great migration was not for me.
The pictures on the TV, every year since, convinced me that I had made a good decision.
Willy
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Update::
It has been a while, I have just been trying to ignore time and focus on my work. Now as I approach 38 days I am losing my strength to hold out. The anxiety is killing me, to know that we are so close to touching each other....the feeling only makes me angry at myself for being in this situation and having a lot more of these situations to come..
Things between us has never been better. We have had maybe 3 major fights along the way but somehow we have gotten past them. The last tiff we had was because her ex boyfriend was telling her negative things about American men and filling her head with lies. She began to ask me questions and appear insecure about our future and I know those thoughts were not her own. We got into it because she would not let me have his Skype or email address (so I could tell him a thing or two). After I calmed down we talked about things and we both agreed she should not communicate with him ever again, she says she only kept talking to him to be polite but she didn't have feelings for him...and I trust her.
How do you guys get through these days without constantly thinking about your departure day? I am so excited its crazy. When I was 70 days out I didn't really pay attention but now...I cant stop looking at the calendar...sigh...
Another question, anything I should know about Chinese customs(airport customs station) she wants me to bring her some american cereal and I also have some small gifts, anything I should watch out for?
Well I think I will do another update...when I am at 20 days but that will never come because I have been in the 30's forever.
- Jake
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I suppose it depends on which airport you land in if you are going direct into China. I have never been through an mainland international airport.
Mind you I have not heard of anyone on here having had problems with what they bring into China.
When I have gone back to the UK for visits I have only ever gone into Hong Kong then used the Ferry to get to Zhuhai or Zhongshan. I suppose in all I made 8 trips there and back. In Zhuhai I have only ever put my cases through the machine and collected them the other end.
I have made more trips back through Zhongshan Port than Zhuhai and have never once been directed to go through the customs area here as I am always waved through the easy way out. Age has its benefits at time! Maybe after writing this I may well get a pull next time.
They maybe are not too concerned as they know that getting through the security at US and UK airports to get on a plane is pretty strict and if you were hiding contraband it would have been spotted before you boarded.
I know at Heathrow once I was stopped and went through the full search as the rub down had revealed to security a package of some sort fixed to my body. I got through that ok as it was a big wad of cash I was taking back with me in a money belt. But I did have to show them the receipts of when I withdraw it from my London bank. But when I got back home to China no one paid any attention to it at all.
Willy
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How do you guys get through these days without constantly thinking about your departure day? I am so excited its crazy. When I was 70 days out I didn't really pay attention but now...I cant stop looking at the calendar...sigh...
- Jake
This is always a tough part. I too am leaving in just a few days. I bought my tickets a few months ago, and have been counting the days ever since. It is hard to keep your mind off the coming trip. But time will pass, and soon enough, you will be flying to China to see her.
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When I got to Guangzhou all they did was the usual X-ray and pat down. I had many gifts in my suitcases which included some foodstuffs, and I had no issues. At every hotel I have been in (3 so far), they all had American cereals for breakfast, so it isn't uncommon.
As for the waiting... Talking with her every day really helps, but I personally couldn't get completely away from the anxiety. Until you are face to face with her, it will be there. I tried to load my schedule near the end so that I was too busy to think about the trip. It didn't work.
As for the ex... I think it has been talked about here quite a bit that these women have many, many outside influences. You won't get rid of them all... You just have to go with the flow sometimes.
Just remember... All the anxiety is worth it the first time you hold her in your arms.
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@Willy, Thanks for the tips. Im not so worried now.
@Martin, Yes its agony but as you said time goes on. I think I just need to focus on each day.
@Irish, Wow thanks for all the information esp. when you have your own trip going on right now. Ok, I will tell Keshu about the cereal at the hotel i don't think she knew about it. Also your right...i wont be satisfied until she is in my arms. Thanks for the advice man.
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Just make sure that she finds you the right hotel.
A Chinese lady will try to find one that is less expensive and may not have the right facilities for you. It is so natural for them to do that.
Very few hotels have Western Style cereals available.
Willy
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Well Martin?
"..I too am leaving in just a few days. I bought my tickets a few months ago.."
Did you go?
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Well Martin?
"..I too am leaving in just a few days. I bought my tickets a few months ago.."
Did you go?
Gone, and am at my destination. Could not be happier.
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Well....at 12 days and counting. Wow I think the last time I was posting here I was at 38 days and crying. Now im at 12 and overwhelmed with excitement. Me and her cannot stop talking about our first meet and how we think we will react. Sometimes I tell her 'lets not talk about this' because it makes the wait very difficult. Martin your common sense advise was spot on, time is so constant that its going to go whether we want it to slow down or speed up. Irishguy I have also been trying to keep busy and its working a bit for me but I see what you mean, the number of the day is still lingering in the back of your head...12...12...12....12. Then tomorrow.....11 ......11......11......11.
Life has been going really great for me recently. I just landed a new job today and I think I will be super busy with that until its time to leave. Im on top of the world right now! I have been talking with keshu and I told her with this new job we can possibly get a lawyer now and get the visa process for her started early. Of course im trying to take it slow but I really have deep feelings for this girl and I wont be surprised if I marry her on 2nd visit. The downside to this job is I will not have vacation time until around...February so I told her I will come in March but only for a week as thats all my job will allow me being that I just started :( . I guess I have to take the good with the bad. I know I have to do what I have to do if Im going to be able to make a life for us, sacrifices must be made.
Im thinking of making a video blog of my trip but im not sure...I will for sure give updates on here everyday.....well almost everyday lol. I have been lurking these forums for about 3 years and I really became active about a year ago i think.. well maybe this year. A lot of people who inspired me and I used to read about are not on this forum anymore to witness my experience, I wont name specific names because i dont want to leave people out but sooo many stories I have read of trips and 2nd trips and 3rd trips made me realize that is really is ALL worth it in the end. I cant wait for you guys to share my journey.
I have really been worrying about lost/delayed luggage lately because all my gifts for her will be in my check in...hope it doesn't happen to me. Im also trying to remember everything I need. I looked at Irishguys post and saw all the replies so I think i will be good.
- Jake
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... 11...11...11...11.....................................ahhhh 10!
Jake, about the Luggage.. I flew four times to Pudong and never had any problems with my Bags. Come to think of it, even on the way back with tons of Tea and everything else they thought I need to live on comming back.. haha.
We are certainly looking forward for you Story to arrive here with us, how many days are left?
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@Mpo...Max? right? Thank you man, I loved reading your adventures.
@Arnold, I am on 12 days.
I leave to see her on the 25th ....actually at the very beginning of the 25th, my flight is at 12:30 AM. I actually dont mind that time because when I land in Shanghai it will be 12:30 pm on the 26th. So we will have that whole day to do whatever. She said she will meet me at the airport and she will run to me if she sees me haha. I always hear everyone say how beautiful their woman is in real life compared to pictures. If Keshu is more beautiful that would be a shocker because she is very pretty in her pictures. She said she will bring some Zhongzi with her so we can eat if we get hungry, not sure what it is but i have an open mind when it comes to food.
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She said she will bring some Zhongzi with her so we can eat if we get hungry, not sure what it is but i have an open mind when it comes to food.
Here you have information on what Zhongzi is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zongzi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zongzi) ;)
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Jake good luck.And have a good time.
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Jake , so as to make it easy to spot u next time you are on QQ if you haven't already done so show her what you will be wearing off the plane , as it will be or should be T shirt type weather , I hope you enjoy Shanghai , with both the old and the new it is a vibrant town and just getting from the airport to downtown you will see just so many hirises , have an enjoyable trip and relax only 11 days to go ha ha , regards Sujuan and Robert .
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Zongzi has a unique flavor. I like it. My wife makes it all of the time. They soak rice overnight in water and spices. Then they put it into the leaf along with a piece of pork and a mushroom. Close it up and boil it for a couple of hours. I'm getting hungry just thinking about it.
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If you are tatted up, I would suggest clothing that minimizes the amount of tattoos viewable to the public. Many people in China still relate tattoos to people that are either criminals and or members of the " Black Organization " Chinese mafia. Your lady may not say anything about them to you now, but do not be surprised if she asks you to cover them up while in public in China! If you do not have tattoos disregard the above! Good Luck, Robertt
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Good luck Jake, I married my wife on the second trip to China, As for the photos, My wife looked older than the photos from chnlove but now she looks younger every day . John.
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6 trips around the globe, with plane changes on most of those trips, and my luggage has never gotten lost.
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Just tell them you want tickets to where ever your bags are going! ;)
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Lost baggage is always a fear that is why I always carry a few essential changes of clothes in my hand luggage.
I still do even though I have made more than 200 flights to and from more than 35 countries and never lost or even had my baggage delayed.
Willly
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I have had bags lost.Articles stolen out of the bags.I have had the bags damaged.The items in the bags damaged.I always thought .It was part of the adventure
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6 trips around the globe, with plane changes on most of those trips, and my luggage has never gotten lost, but Martin has ;) :D ::)
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Ive had 8 trips to China, trips to England, Thailand,France, never been delayed, never had lost luggage, Guess im just lucky , John.
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I've had a dozen flights... no more. Most were domestic until I flew to China last month to see Lisa. I went on a cruise in 1999 with my ex wife for our honeymoon. My bags were lost on the flight, so I was on a cruise with nothing. The airlines repaid me for everything I bought and gave me $100 extra. It was a 7 day cruise, and my baggage arrived on the ship 4 days into the cruise. The flight was only from Philadelphia to Miami.
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I am not trying to one up anyone but... An unnamed airline that uses the letters Delta in their name lost my step-sister for several hours.
I helped her get out of a bad relationship by purchasing a ticket from Atlanta to Oklahoma City where I was living at the time. I knew that she got onto the airplane in Atlanta because she called me from there and the manifest from Delta confirmed it.
About 6 hours after she was to arrive in OKC she called me from Toronto. They would not fly her to OKC at their expense. They told her she would have to buy another ticket.
On her flight from Atlanta to Dallas she fell asleep. She was suppose to board another airplane for OKC. The airplane was emptied and grounded for 2 hours while they cleaned it, changed crews and prepared it for a flight to Toronto. No one bothered to wake her up.
When I called Delta they said I would have to purchase another ticket. I told them that I would have this reported on local television that evening. I called a cousin of mine who lived in OKC. She was a camera man for WKY channel 2. She called the airline pretending to be a reporter. Suddenly Delta decided to fly her to OKC at their expense.
I will also add that that girl can do some serious sleeping. ;D
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haha... so it is "True", fly Delta and see the World!
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Right now im packing, writing in my journal and talking to my girl. I leave tomorrow evening and I could not be any more excited. I am trying to think about if I am missing anything....but i feel like i have a mental block. I have so many things to do tomorrow, I know i will be busy. Next time i post will be from the airport. I have two bags, my big suitcase and my carry on that has some toiletries inside. I will also bring my laptop, so when im at the airport i will give another update.
- Jake
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Good luck Jake.Have a good time.
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Jake , like Maxx has said enjoy , hope you have packed some comfortable walking shoes , cos the girls like walking , not far to them can be up to 2 to 4 miles ha ha , regards Sujuan and Robert .
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my carry on that has some toiletries inside
be sure that any liquids meet regulations and are in a clear plastic bag ready for inspection. It has gotten to be such a hassle I pack my toiletries in my checked bag.
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Have a great time Jake. Keep us posted. As many have said before... Pictures, Pictures Pictures!!!!!!
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I have so many things to do tomorrow, I know i will be busy. Next time i post will be from the airport. I have two bags, my big suitcase and my carry on that has some toiletries inside. I will also bring my laptop,
- Jake
Lot of luggage I see.
So you had a change of mind then. Your coming over for a couple of months then?
Willy
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@Willy 2 bags is a lot of luggage? not in my experience. I have my suitcase with all my clothes then my personal bag, maybe you misunderstood.
Well everyone I am hours away from meeting the girl who has stolen my heart. I am in ICN, Korea airport waiting to board my next flight. Everything has been going smooth, the 14 hr flight was easy after 4 Zzzquil. Now I am sitting here waiting and starving. I looked for food but everything is closed. It is about 5am and I dont think I will have to wait much longer as shops should began to open soon. I just talked to keshu via skype and she says she cant sleep. I told her she must sleep. She said she is leaving at 6 or 7 to Shanghai. So...for me it will be maybe 2 or 3 movies until 11.
- Jake
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**Leap of faith to Shnghai!
« on: May 26, 2013, 08:33:34 pm »
".....She lives in Ningbo and plans to meet me in Shanghai in August. I will for sure update you guys about my trip and give details.
She is not the best looking girl in China(I have high shallow standards, i know ima jerk) but she cares for me a lot, she has a good heart and all that means a lot to me, I will post a pic.
- Jake"
Wish you the best! Had to take a look at that 1st post long ago. Your 'standards' are a bit elevated. Have to agree with 5Trout on that next post.
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All is well, I met up with keshu yesterday and she was stunning. I spotted her right away and we embraced each other like we have never been apart. I will give full details of everything after the whole trip. Right now we are listening to some music while I wait for her to get ready. We are going to the zoo today to see her favorite...Panda's lol. Shanghai is great. Last night we went to a restaurant and ordered so much food for so little money. I love china. Great food for cheap? wow....makes me look at the food prices in my country a bit differently. Ok well let me get back to her before she spots me, she just called for me and said 'honey, what are you doing?' ...lol gotta go!
- Jake
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Ha , we told you that you would love Shanghai , regards Sujuan and Robert .
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Jake, make sure to save a Fri/Sat to go up the Financial Tower in the evening with all the lights on all over the Bund and beyond. The Pearl Tower is nice, but takes longer to get up and cost the same (150 yuan).
Take a little Boat ride after Dinner if that is to you likking? I am jealous, as I call Shanghai my second hometown and miss it much.
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I will thanks arnold!. Right now keshu is sleep and im looking at some pictures we took earlier, a deep sadness has just hit me when i realized...I have to return after this week. Wow, my admiration for those members who have waited years for their wives to join them in their home is at a whole new level. I dont know how im going to live without this girl....im so hurt how far i must be from her. These are my thoughts as she lays next to me....Ok fellas i guess i will get a bit more sleep. Today we are going to relax and watch som movies and maybe go get a massage. Hey Arnold my girl want to make me some dumplings, would you happen to know where a good grocery store is in shanghai?
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Jake , ask the desk girls they should know which way to point you for dumpling supplies , regards Robert.
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Whole trip story coming soon, I had to go straight back to work as soon as I got back and haven't had time. This weekend I will tell my tale.
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Me too!
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Im so busy I can only write one day at a time. I will start with the first day then do the 2nd and 3rd day maybe next weekend. I just have such a busy schedule right now.
So the journey began when i drove to an airport ride n' fly service around 8pm and reached the airport around 9:20pm. I did not take into account the amount of people checking into international flights for Korean air so my time schedule was off a little. It took me maybe 40 minutes to finally get the the counter and check in. I checked my one bag in, got my tickets and began to feel the reality of my trip. I then went into security which was a breeze and after that I was off to the terminal. My timing was almost perfect because I got to my terminal around 10:50 and boarding started at 12:00 am. So i just listened to music and waited. After that was off to Korea and slated to sit on a plane for 14 hours. It was more like 5 hours for me because of the 3 ZzzQuil i took. I had a very pleasant experience and flight with Korean Air. I will try to use them again. After I arrived in Korea I was super hungry but nothing was open as it was 4am there when we landed. So i waited and then went to the most familiar thing to me 'Subway". After that I connected to the wifi (which was easy) and tried to contact my Keshu. She responded with excitement and to tell me she was on her way to Shanghai by bus and she could not wait to meet me. My flight to Shanghai was at 11:30 am and the hours went by just fine as I had a new movie to watch on my laptop called 'Pain and Gain". It was pretty good. Then the call for boarding cam and I could not believe how close i was to her. That flight actually seemed longer lol. So once i landed in Shanghai I had such a feeling of excitement and amazement that i was on the other side of the world. I then tried to connect to the wifi to contact keshu but it was so difficult that i gave up. I was not worried because me and Keshu had a plan for something like this. I told her just wait for me in the lobby and i gave her a time frame. So my trip was going smoothly until I his the immigration booth and got held up for 10 minutes. I lost some weight since my passport picture and apparently i look totally different so I had the Chinese security checking my face and my passport several times and asking me questions....smh. So it finally got sorted out and I was off to get my bags. I could see when the lobby was and I knew she was there waiting on my so i began to get very antsy. It took forever for my bag to come out and i almost began to think it was lost but it finally came out the dark hole and into my hands. Then i began to rush towards the lobby and had so many thoughts running through my head like 'should i kiss her?' and 'when do i give her the first gift". Once i passed through the doors i began to look around to see if i saw here and I immediately recognized her. I saw her! she was looking at the flight times and looking confused (i could tell she was worried) but she didnt see me. I really wanted to go surprise her and creep up behind her but my excitement took control and i called to her 'Keshu!'..... she did not turn right away then she turned to me and a super big smile came on her face and i said lets go outside where there is more room. It was super crowded in the lobby and there would have been no intimacy.
Once outside I looked at her in amazement and said 'Wow! Keshu your so beautiful" and hugged her about 20 times. She was so shy but said 'you look good too'. Then i told her i have something for you and she was very excited and happy. It was a panda teddy bear, i knew she would like it because panda is her favorite. So after all this we found a taxi and went to the hotel. Once we dropped our bags, i told her to come here in chinese, and she came over to me. I held her in my arms and kissed her and she kissed back (later she told me she enjoyed this very much). Then we talked for hours in the hotel until we got hungry then went out to eat. That's when i fell in love with Chinese cuisine! We ordered too much food and could not eat it all. We both laughed about it and got it to go. The moments we had together that day really confirmed our love. I knew this was the girl i wanted to spend the rest of my life with. I told her this too and she was so happy. After we went to eat we went back to the hotel and cuddled up to watch a movie. She was so sleepy that she fell asleep during the movie and I eventually cut it off and joined her in sleeping. She allowed me to sleep close to her and we had a restfully sleep that night.
The first day was not the best day for me but it was a day i will never forget. I see how people forget to take pictures of first meet, it was the last thing on my mind. She jokes with me now and makes fun of my reaction when i first hugged her lol.
That was the first day but not the best day. I will post the next 2 days maybe next week.
- Jake
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When it comes to LOVE, The law states above all else, that you fall into it - great vibe with your story so far & here is my hoping to vicariously read more.
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Jake , great 1st day and we now wait with baited breath for your update , regards Sujuan and Robert .
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Man.... Jake, that brings back memories of my first encounter with my Wife at Pudong! Your one day story so far, has given me Goosebumps already. Can't wait for the next update.
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Ho Hum...been there, done that !!!...
Just joking Jake, now you know what many of us here have been rabbiting on about all this time....great aint it !!
Best wishes...David
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Day 2 & 3:
The next day I remember waking up not realizing I had Keshu next to me. I let out a morning fart then immediately had a jolt of terror come over my body once the reality of what i had done hit me. I looked over at her to check for her reaction but she was out like a light (she a pretty heavy sleeper). I then began to get ready for our day at the zoo. After my shower and morning routine I looked to see if she was still sleep but she was just starting to get up. We exchanged shy and smiley 'good mornings' along with some talk about where the soap and other toiletries were and then she got begin to get ready. I told her she could share my soap and toothpaste before the trip so she was expecting that. After she was ready we looked out of our hotel window overlooking the city and marveled at the view. Then we talked and joked and shared some kisses and left for the Shanghai Zoo. I asked her if she wanted to eat first or after we finished with the zoo and she wanted food so we went to a place called Yang's Fried Dumplings. It was very very very good. She ordered for me (of course) bean noodles in curry with beef (out of this world good) and she got a vegetable type noodle soup and then we shared some dumplings. Everything was so good and we now had the energy for the zoo lol. We then looked for the bus and set out.
After a 10 minute bus ride and 60 yuan later we entered the zoo and set out for the Panda that she wanted to see so bad. When we first entered the park we were enjoying the nice trees at the entrance and the beautiful breeze that day. It was a little cloudy but no rain and a very nice humid breeze. Well we were walking with her stuck to my arm (she always walked so close to me, it feels weird not walking with her now..) when we saw two tour cars sitting near the entrance. I figured they might cost but Keshu said this is where we might need to go and went to sit down, there was a guy there who said we must pay 60 yuan to ride this and that it was the only way to see the park because walking was too far...lol. I then told keshu we are not doing this because i saw people walking into the park and we would be fine, when she pointed this out to the guy he got defensive and im sure said some offensive things to Keshu about me as i saw him pointing at me and her shaking her head. We quickly got off of the tour car and made our way into the park, I told Keshu dont let that guy ruin our time together and she quickly forgot about it. We then began our hunt for the Panda and of course then put it at the very back of the park. So after we saw 6 or 7 different animals we found the Panda. Each animal Keshu was very excited to see...im thinking she has never been to a zoo before this. So we saw the panda and got pictures then began to make our way ALL the way back to the entrance/exit. After the Panda I could tell she was tired and i was tired so I suggested we go back to the hotel rest then go eat because before the plan was to eat right after the zoo, at this point we both favored rest. We finally got back to the entrance and took the bus back to the hotel. At this pint it was probably 4pm. When we got back we said we would take a short nap....that turned into a 3 hour nap lol and we both laughed about it. I really wasnt worried about setting an alarm because i was on vacation.
After the nap we got a quick dinner at a hole in the wall restaurant. I got something like beef noodles and she got egg with noodles i think. It was ok...not as good as Yang's but decent then we went back to the hotel. I put a movie on my laptop and we watched Hangover 3 with Chinese subtitles..(she loves American comedy movies and told me to bring that before the trip). During the movie i felt her hand move to my leg then her lips began to rest on my neck lol. We began to kiss and ... she told me she wanted to shower with me...and what happened after that....lets just say we had to watch Hanover 3 again the next day.
So day 3... I will post about day 3 tomorrow.
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So she made the first move huh? (sweet!) I showed Hong pictures of my hotel I was to be staying at for the first few days. One included a claw foot type bathtub except with facet is in the middle. And so, I asked her if when I arrive would she share a bath with me? Yes replied yes! WOO HOO!
I think I'll bring candles now!
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Lol its very nice to shower with someone you love and wash each other. Also technically i made the first move when i kissed her but i think by that time she realized i was the same guy who she has been sharing her life with for 5 months via internet and emotions and her being more comfortable allowed her to express her love. I welcomed it and told her i wanted to spend the rest of my life with her. I know what you mean though, it was nice to not be the only one thinking about intimacy...
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:o more.... :P mas.... 8) mehr.... ;) wai de xie-xie ni....
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After I and many others have enjoyed Shanghai with our ladies , surely the next movie should be " Sleepless in Shanghai " , regards Sujuan and Robert .
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wow, you slept together so soon, never before meet each-other??, am i missing something ?, have you met before ??, it was about 5 months of daily emails and then around 10 days of getting to know each-other before we slept in the same bed "fully clothed" ,
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In a somewhat related area...Hong asked me to be clean shaven for wedding, family, photos, and so I did right then and there... for her to see. Later as she was dressing for the day, I asked for a peek...seeing that I was soon to be her husband. Conclusion? I am bringing my shaver...but not for me! haha
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Hong is on her way as I write to make sure my "singles" is acceptable. She has a copy. My hotel does have a separate room with a couch...just in case to avoid awkwardness.
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At the risk of sounding like a prude which I am not I would like to caution you to what you say about you and your woman's activities on this site. One day she will read them and as Ricky Ricardo once said, "Lucy you've got some 'splainin to do" will occur. Don't forget that these women are resourceful and can find this site. They also have opinions as to what should and should not be said on this site. Please don't ruin a good relationship with a great woman just because you might have said a little too much.
I've said very little and have had to explain myself. Most of these women are very private and want to keep it that way.
Just a word of caution.
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Ok day 3 and 4 is coming, been very busy.
To everyone so concerned about how fast we slept together and how much of our personal time i told, I have a few words.
1. We are a young couple ...passion is high. End of story.
2. We have a lot of fun in our relationship and we not too serious about life(certain aspects), I actually just told her about it and let her read my post and she laughed and said 'yes i remember that, not i dont mind at all'. I think if it was very very detailed then yes i would be in the dog house. but i see your point.
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1. We are a young couple ...passion is high. End of story.
Haha... very true. I think we have, for the most part, a bunch of old fogies here ;D I am probably the youngest or one of the youngest at 48, so take all that with a grain of salt and live your life your way. Life is short, ATL, enjoy every moment.
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HEY! Some of us old fogies can teach you a thing or two about passion! :-X ;D
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I dont think there is any timeline for when is a proper time to have a physical relationship. The only timeline is whether you are both ready to move to that level. In your case, obviously the time was right. And I am also one of the younger members on this forum, although, not the youngest.
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.... OUR Passion is so high, it lowers my Age. So that puts me in the "Middle-class" of the age group!
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I was not rebuking your behavior with your woman. What happens between the two of you is between the two of you. That was the point of my comment. My comment was concerning discretion.
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You're right Shaun, but I doubt Hong will ever come to this site. She has referred to the forum here as "your people". haha
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My short term memory is failing me swiftly can someone reminds me what 'passion' and 'emotions' are! ::)
Mind you my long term memory is intact and going back 55 years to my first girlfriend I can say that I never slept with any women from then until I arrived in China. :o
That is true, there was never any time left for sleeping when I was in my prime!!!!!!!!! 8)
Willy
You young un's just be aware of what you post. What has been written on here has been known to come back and bite you on the ass. ;)
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And I was thinkin I'd be nibbling on her ass! :-X ;D
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Let me say Shaun thank you for the advice, I think i got a bit defensive due to multiple comments on me and my lady. Sorry.
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Day 3 & 4
The next day i woke up a little early, i think it was jet lag i just could not sleep past 5 am. Keshu would always say i wakeup too early but she always forgot i did not live in china. This day we were going to check out the Jade Buddhist temple near our hotel. So while i waited for keshu to wake up i looked and posted on this website then just researched restaurants for us to eat at later.
Finally around 7:30 she woke up and said 'Good morning, can i have a hug?' lol she told me later when i gave her hugs in the morning she felt great. We then talked about what we was going to do for dinner that day after the temple and I told her i wanted to try hotpot. So she said she saw one that is famous near our hotel and we could go later. After talking about food so long i told her we should get some breakfast and she agreed. We then got ready (shower, brushing teeth, all that good stuff) and we hit the street, we finally went to a place that had korean inspired food. I got rice with chicken and she got rice with egg, i was trying to take a video of it then she told me i have to stir it very very quickly lol. It was not very tasty for me and she agreed, we decided we would not come back here ever again. After this we went back to the hotel and picked out another movie from my computer. I told her the movie 'In Time' was good and we started to watch that. I was suddenly very very sleep and told her i was going to lay down and take a short nap she said "thats fine' and to the bed i went. After about 10 minutes she then came from the living room where we was watching the movie to the bed room and set the laptop on the bed to watch the movie (i think she missed me :D). I remember waking up for a second then going back to sleep. It was very relaxing having her lay with me while i took a nap, a few times i woke up to her rubbing her leg on on my leg while she was watching the movie, which felt really good. I dont know what it is but the touch of a woman is the best. After a while i think she got sleepy because she eventually turned the movie off and cuddled up with me to sleep.
We woke up surprised that it was 4 pm and we slept for 3 hours. We laughed about it and then headed out to the Buddhist Temple. We got to the doors of the temple and saw they were closed and then figured out that they closed at 5pm. So then we went to the park near our hotel and sat in the shade for a while and talked....laughed....flirted...and enjoyed each other. Once 6 pm rolled around keshu told me she was hungry and we walked to the Hotspot place. Once there we had to go into this elevator that took us up to the actual restaurant was located. They served watermelon some super sour juice and popcorn as an appetizer. Once we were done waiting for a table we went to go eat and had a great time. She told me my chop stick skills were very good but i think she was just being nice lol. We got beef, chicken, shrimp, egg, tofu, and pork. It was good. After I told her we should get a foot massage and she was excited about it. At the massage place i tried some of my chinese on the people working there and said i love china in mandarin after my massage and got a big laugh. After that we went back to the hotel and called it a night. By this day she told me she was so comfortable with me and felt like we had know each other for so long. That night i was laying there thinking about how sad i will be when i leave...worse feeling.
Day 4 was nothing much. It was raining that day so we stayed in and watched movies and chinese tv. Day 5 we did more. I will talk about 5 next.
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When I was in Shanghai and it rained, I found out, Chinese (at least my LaoPo) do not like rain or get wet! One trop on my Wife's head and she runs for cover... Funny ;D.
Here I love walks in the rain, snuggled up under "One" umbrella. So romantic, yeah... but not by yourself!
Ps: I love Hot Pot, we have it at home many times.
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Arnold, we went out to a super market hours before it rained and when we was about to head back it started to rain....i told her lets just hurry back to the hotel but she was not having it. So there we were at the front of the market looking at the downpour for....about 2 hours....until i finally convinced her it would not get any better..lol its just rain! sigh...
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Ok, im sorry i never finished my story by life has been super busy. I am getting ready for my second visit now. I leave for Shanghai again this week and I will spend 2 weeks with my love this time. It has been very rough being away from her and it seems like we fight over silly stuff. Anyone else have problems with fighting while separated from their girl?
I leave this week for China and i think i am a little bit more prepared this time. Any advice on Shanghai in december?
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Anyone else have problems with fighting while separated from their girl?
Face to face is much better so do not be concerned.
Just think of all the fighting you can do, person to person, in the forthcoming two weeks. ;D ;D ;D
Oh and just remember it is bloody cold there in December.
Willy
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......Oh and just remember it is bloody cold there in December.
How can it be cold Willy, with your Girl in your Arms? I'd worry about "Her" though! :)
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HaHa thanks guys (ftp://HaHa thanks guys)
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Oh and just remember it is bloody cold there in December.
As an aside, I see from US News that most of the USA is going through a very cold snap.
Willy
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Minus 3 degrees yesterday in Reno! Three days ago my pipes froze. Now we constantly run a little water.
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Now we constantly run a little water.
I have been running a little water for a couple of years now. But that's due to my age I guess!!!
Willy