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General Discussion and Useful Links => Newbies Corner => Topic started by: brett on August 07, 2009, 07:58:00 am

Title: Moving to the West - do they really want to?
Post by: brett on August 07, 2009, 07:58:00 am
Hi guys,

Another newbie(ish) question :huh:.

Do many these ladies *really* want to leave China to start a new life in the West? I know their family ties will be strong, but would they be willing to loosen these in order to secure a better upbringing for themselves and their possible children?

This is *hugely* important to me, but I've only noticed a couple of ladies saying they are interested in Western culture, and I haven't really seen anyone saying they want to move to the West.

I'd certainly consider moving to the far east in the future, but given the present and likely future economic conditions, there's no way I'm leaving my job here for a while...

Thanks!
Title: RE: Moving to the West - do they really want to?
Post by: David5o on August 07, 2009, 08:10:54 am
Brett,

Sure there are many that want to move with their hubby's to the West, just as there are many that would like there new hubby's to live in China.
What your offering, is the best of both worlds ....first your country , then retire to theirs!!

I'm sure they'll be happy, wherever they are, so long as it's with YOU!!

David....
Title: RE: Moving to the West - do they really want to?
Post by: shaun on August 07, 2009, 09:41:26 am
Brett,

What David said is exactly what the woman I am talking with says to me.  She will go wherever I want to be but would be happy if I retire in China. With economics being like they are it would be to my benefit to retire in China in another 6-8 years.  You will find when the +35 women say they are looking for love and someone they can grow old with, this exactly what they mean. They are looking for happiness just like you are. and to quote David, "I'm sure they'll be happy, wherever they are, so long as it's with YOU!!"
Title: RE: Moving to the West - do they really want to?
Post by: Vince G on August 07, 2009, 10:25:04 am
MOST Chinese women will go wherever the husband is. So it's not a question of "wanting" to leave China. On the other hand it is best that YOU allow her or both of you to travel/stay/live in China as well. It will even the field. If she knows China isn't a forbidden place. She'll adjust better.
Title: RE: Moving to the West - do they really want to?
Post by: brett on August 07, 2009, 10:46:38 am
Thanks guys!

Although I'm aware that the wives will go where there husbands go, I'm aware that many marriages to foreign wives end because the wife misses her homeland. Obviously we could visit China occasionally but that obviously depends on future finances etc. I'm better placed than most (work in a multicultural institution that actually runs English courses, live close to London with its Chinatown etc.) but even so moving from China to the UK is a very big step indeed.
Title: RE: Moving to the West - do they really want to?
Post by: Peter on August 07, 2009, 10:47:27 am
You are right about this Vince. My wife have no doubts to move to Sweden and live with me. We have talked this over more than once and agree that we will in China half of the year when I have retired and in Sweden the other half. We are planning to buy an apartment in Changsha before she leave. The price on apartment is rising at the moment so we agreed to buy before the prices are to high... I will have the best of two worlds in the future :icon_cheesygrin:
Title: RE: Moving to the West - do they really want to?
Post by: Scottish_Rob on August 07, 2009, 10:50:45 am
Yes mate it would be a very big step, especially if your lady has a child.

This was one of the reasons that i decided to move there, it was going to be easier for the one person to do this, also it keeps her close to her family, should anything go wrong? The way I think is that with your lady you are gaining a 'family' who will be close to each other and will take care of each of their family members.
Title: RE: Moving to the West - do they really want to?
Post by: Vince G on August 07, 2009, 01:20:07 pm
I've talked about this before. She and I have talked about it and I want her to be Chinese. I don't want her to change. (maybe you had to be there?) I hope to live half yr there half here? She has the condo already. She rents it out currently. I even asked if it's being rented? can it be for half the year? She brushed it off like she'll just them them to leave when we are going? But anyway, I made sure she knew she wasn't coming here to be a prisoner. Never going back. I could only promise we will go back as often as we can. If it makes her happy? I'm doing it.
Title: RE: Moving to the West - do they really want to?
Post by: Jadams79 on August 07, 2009, 03:02:29 pm
I think if given the choice not many of the ladies actually want to leave China, just my 2 cents. and 1 cent more for surcharge. And 1 more cent because I'm republican and yall democrats need a new program of some sort. And finally one more cent for the save california fund, just because.
Title: RE: Moving to the West - do they really want to?
Post by: Vince G on August 07, 2009, 04:44:33 pm
Ah a republican coming in here throwing his money around.... Does the bylaw say we can ban republicans? :icon_cheesygrin:
Title: RE: Moving to the West - do they really want to?
Post by: Willy The Londoner on August 07, 2009, 04:51:59 pm
I agree most of the ladies are apprehensive about leaving China. Many of them have never ever left the Province they live in.

Chinese ladies are family orientated and given a choice they would prefer to stay in China.  As you know I live in Zhuhai and at the end of this year we are planning to move to the other side Guangzhou which is my girls homeland.

Some want the adventure of travelling to another land others will not but Chinese Ladies being Chinese they will follow their husbands wishes.

Willy
Title: RE: Moving to the West - do they really want to?
Post by: JimB on August 07, 2009, 09:07:22 pm
As of 6:pm Eastern Time today. I have taken an early retirement.  We have discussed this and she wants to live the 6 months here and 6 months there.  But she wants to work for a few more years so we will move to the States until she no longer wants to work.  She loves her job and her parents brought her up with a great work ethic.  We have agreed for her to work full time for the next 4 years, then go at least part time until she no longer wants to work at all.  I want us to just travel but Financially it makes sense her way. So i am going to live there for at least the next two months leaving this Monday.  I will get a feel for living there and see if I will be happy.  We will decide from there.  But to make your point.  I told her about Hajo and his wife getting her Visa in 24 hours.  I said how about living in Denmark, she said if that s where you want to live ok. She was not kidding either.  They live the saying, wither thou goest, so shall I. (or something like that.)
Title: RE: Moving to the West - do they really want to?
Post by: Scottish_Rob on August 07, 2009, 09:11:41 pm
JimB...Happy retirement mate, hope all your dreams come true...:icon_biggrin:
Title: RE: Moving to the West - do they really want to?
Post by: Vince G on August 08, 2009, 01:07:13 am
Jim, A Happy Retirement my neighboring state friend. :icon_cool:
Title: RE: Moving to the West - do they really want to?
Post by: MLM on August 08, 2009, 07:08:02 am
JimB, Congrats!!! brother on the retirement, hope all works out for you two, you may as well enjoy it, you worked for this.
Title: RE: Moving to the West - do they really want to?
Post by: Arnold on August 08, 2009, 07:48:12 pm
Ahhhh ... time to go Fishing , even though ... you caught the BIG one already .
She measure's up quite well ( to be a legal catch ) so enjoy your Retirement for whatever it has to offer .

Good Luck Jim .
Title: RE: Moving to the West - do they really want to?
Post by: shaun on August 08, 2009, 08:16:22 pm
Congratz, JimB.  Now is the time to really live life to it's fullest.
Title: RE: Moving to the West - do they really want to?
Post by: Sylvain D on August 10, 2009, 04:01:06 am
Congrats, Jim ;) it's nice to see how it's working fine for both of you ;)
Title: RE: Moving to the West - do they really want to?
Post by: Rhonald on August 18, 2009, 12:02:55 am
Sorry to hear that Scott. I am most worried for my wife's son. I hope he doesn't push to strong to remain in China but wishes to come with his mother.

And as to moving to the West - actually all the woman have to travel East inorder to get to the West. Ironic.
Title: RE: Moving to the West - do they really want to?
Post by: Rhonald on August 18, 2009, 07:22:20 am
Yes my wife's son is also 15 years old. He says that he is interested in coming to Canada but when the actuall time comes to leave - he might change his mind. I would have hoped that her child was younger so that I could have had a better affect on his mental development. He has not had a father figure in his life and I feel a sense of bitterness in him at times. I think the best influence is that he has meet my son so at least there will be a familiar face for him. My son lives with me and he is 1 year younger at 14. I always wished for my son to have a younger sibling, but now it seems that he will be the younger brother (De de).
Title: RE: Moving to the West - do they really want to?
Post by: Rhonald on August 18, 2009, 10:37:47 pm
Quote from: 'mpo4747' pid='13254' dateline='1250586429'

NOT EASY.

and I am sure we will have more discussion on this when I go on my trip.
This is going to require much pray, and much more thinking.


Mike have you looked into the immigration problem if you split the visia processing between family members coming in different time frames? I seem to recall for Canadian's that it adds to the degree of headaches for qualifying. Our government rather have all possible members who wish to immigrate to apply at the same time.

Of course, you being American, your government might have different rules.

Your coming close to journey time so my wishes for a safe journey.