Jim , as you know I'm married to a Shanghainese Woman . So I know the Traditional part of course goes out the window here . But as I look at it , I see a lot chinese Women hide behind this as a cover towards western Men .. for security reasons . By our thinking , it's a Woman from the good ole day's of the 40's and 50's ( as many TV shows had us think ) those are the Traditional Women . Of course , there are those kind of Women in China or in any other Country for that matter . Would we concider a Shy Woman a Traditional Woman ? Who knows , I think you have to live with one to REALLY know . If I ever run into one in Shanghai , I'll let you know .. but don't hold your breath .