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ChnLove Date Internet Dating Service, Scam or Real?

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Neil:
They are as real as they get.  If you invest a small fortune and a ton of time, you can come out with a Chinese wife.  They will suck you dry if you give them the chance.  There are MANY men paying thousands of dollars a year for the opportunity to write love letters to complete strangers they will never meet.  These men are the reason this company is the way it is, and they would be stupid to not take advantage of them. 

Why?  Are you thinking of becoming an investor?  I bet they make a killing.  Pure profit and a growth industry.   

David K:
Lovesick Kiwis are an increasingly easy mark, with dating scams costing people more than $2 million last year.

Overall, New Zealanders were cheated out of nearly $4m dollars in 2012 but more than half of that was lost through romance scams.
Dating scam fraud rose, with $2.2m lost last year compared to $900,000 in 2011, according to data from the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment (MBIE).
Netsafe Operations Manager Lee Chisolm said fraudsters targeted vulnerable people online, befriended them, then claimed to urgently need money for an emergency.
"These scams can see the victims emotionally devastated and lose their life's savings," Chisolm said.
"Three people lost over $100,000 each last year."
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Caveat Emptor
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Jason B:
I see sheep can use computers now then David......... :P

As for scams they are everywhere.  I only wrote to my now wife for a period of about 3 months via CHNLOVE, one or two letters a week and then went to see her in China.  There were are few bits of fluff added to letters but these were mainly done by people in the office who were not part of the main letter writer/translator who just happened to be Xia's flatmate.  So even inside an office there is scammers.  But the main question there is; is it the people who work there or the company putting pressure onto the workers?  As for CHNLOVE themselves I think to a degree they have separated themselves from the agencies and are more like the front door into Chinese services.  But things may have changed I have not used them for more than 3 years now.

daghoi:

Scan or not, I would defenetly choose a different way to meet a chinese woman today.

I wrote to a woman and travelled to meet her in Guangzhou. She was probably the woman in the picture, but the agency must have written evrithing for her. She had no knowledge of what we had discussed in the letters, neither did the information I had about her match what she told me when I met her in person. I made a clean break as soon as I understood that.

There are a lot of more "efficient" and less expensive ways to meet chinese woman. chnlove would be about the last thing I would try.

The best way to meet someone is the most simple one. Get on a plane and visit the country ! Try to avoid Beijing, Shanghai and the most touristy cities. Get out in the streets and interact with real woman.

Pineau:
Hey, no one  has ranted for such a long time about Chnlove I guess it is due.

So just for the newbies education.

I spent three months in contact with what I thought was a Chinese woman that was seriously interested in me. Over that time I noticed inconsistencies in the stories and letters. I also saw photos of the woman over that time transformed from a beautiful woman that looked half her age into an unattractive frumpy middle aged overweight  woman. It became obvious to me that I had been swindled and they had pulled a bait and switch. The experience cost me in excess of 1000 dollars before I figured it out and pulled the plug.

I later went to China on other business and met the lady. While there I visited with the woman for a full day and have since had email conversations with her.

I got the entire truth. This is what I know as fact and can prove with photos, documents and letters.

The matching agencies use Chnlove.com as an umbrella/shield to present their stable of women to the gullible public.   
 
The women do not write to you!  and your letters are not being read by the ladies. You are talking, flirting and falling in love and discussing your deepest secrets with a translator who is trained on how to pull the heart strings of a love sick western man. I  Don't want to make you puke but there is a good chance that she is a he.. and has a hairy chest and a pot belly. (actually mine was a young boy) .The lady who they are representing has very little knowledge of the correspondence between you and the agency. But they are aware of the tactics and dishonesty that is taking place on their behalf.

They (translator) discourage direct communications of any kind, as it will end their revenue stream generated by translating letters between the two of you.  Some excuses you may hear is  " I don't have a computer" " I am not computer literate."  "I cant afford a cell phone or we could talk. " "My English is terrible and I feel much more comfortable using the agencies translators for our communications". You will hear many stories and excuses that directly contradict each other.

Let me say this,  computers are very accessible to everyone in China. You can go to an internet cafe and use the computer for an hour for 5 RMB (that's less than a buck).  Most everyone under 50 years old is computer literate. The QQ  computer game (farm) is a national pastime in China. And cant afford a cell phone. What a load of crap. You cant sling a dead cat in China without hitting someone trying to sell you a used/stolen cell phone for pennies on the dollar. I once saw a decrepit old man riding a cart pulled by a water buffalo while talking on his cell phone.

The photos. My god the photos. You have never see such beautiful women in your life. Only trouble is they are fake. fake. fake. They start with a professional photo session with tons of makeup and then they photo shop the image into someone that you would not recognize if she were staring you in the face. When you finally realize this beautiful, young woman is pushing 40-50 years old and can't possibly look this good you ask for more everyday "normal" photos. Well they knew you would ask and they have those waiting for you prepared in advance just for you.  And heavily Photo shopped.
 
The ladies pay a huge fee for the agencies representing them. An additional fee is collected from them/you if the scam is successful in getting you to marry them.  Don't think that you can outsmart them or detect a scam from the real thing. They have thought of everything and know their business. No slur intended but the Chinese have had thousands of years of practice separating you from your money.  Also know this, the Agencies have very good Photoshop technicians on staff and  there is a group of Photoshop artist in Nanning and Shenyang. They are the best. They can make a jellyfish look like a mermaid. I have learned to recognize their style.

I strongly advise you to stay away from Chinese marriage agencies that use this marketing technique. They are nothing more that organized crime with a very good store front.

Below are photos.  The women I spent a thousand dollars to correspond with and the woman I met when I went to Shenyang.  One in the same. Notice the cleavage? The woman has no boobs so they gave her some.

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